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I'm being stalked by a cat!
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Candace - 04 Jun 2005 02:16 GMT (Sorry, another long post.)
This is a ridiculous problem but one I've never experienced before. We live in the kind of neighborhood where almost everyone who has cats lets them out...a lot. Then we seem to also have a large stray and/or feral population. Through the years I've had some neutered and others not but we always have food out so, with the strays and the 'hood cats, we have a lot of cat traffic.
About 6 months ago, a long-haired brownish, grayish, whitish sort of tabby showed up but he was distinctly unfriendly. He came and went as he pleased, usually showing up in the evening for dinner. He had no interest in being petted or bonding with us. Plenty of others have also been here during that time. In late March, he started showing up with a young gray tabby, very cute, friendly, and female. She wanted to be our friend, wanted constant attention, wanted to come inside. But we have Marbles the aggressive cat who is already separated from our other 2, Scottie the sporadic sprayer, and sweet little Abbey so bringing her in was out of the question. But I was horrified having a girl kitty around during kitty mating season. She looked to be about 10 months or so old, prime age for getting in the family way. The boy cat seemed to take care of her, I assumed they were mating. Anyway, much calling around and begging and promising of a decent donation, finally on 4/9 got the little girl kitty into the rescue group we got Marbles from, HALO, who does most of the Petsmart adoptions in the Phoenix area. I was very relieved to have her off the streets. Meanwhile, I felt sorry for her buddy but he adapted and continued to hang around and come and go as he pleased. Of course, he got plenty to eat here. We call him "Twin" because he looks like another cat that used to come here to eat.
About 2 weeks ago, on a weekend, I went out and, all of a sudden, he was Mr. Friendly. Wanted to be petted, brushed, everything, after never wanting to be touched. I was then able to discern that he is a neutered male, which is good. His fur is scruffy from neglect so I got him his own brush and we've been brushing him a little everyday. He's looking pretty good although he has some notches out of both his ears and his white fur is still grubby. He's cute, chubby, but I don't think HALO would probably take him at this time since I'm sure they're swamped with kittens. All the other rescue and no-kill groups always say no whenever I call them.
So...it would be fine with us if he just stayed our outdoor cat. We have a low car traffic neighborhood and, like I said, there are tons of other cats around. A cat down the street with a home, Pretty, loves to come and harrass Twin, which is annoying but tolearble, I guess. Twin is very mellow and doesn't fight back. Hence, the tattered ears, I guess.
What isn't tolerable is that Twin never, ever leaves my carport. He waits for me, morning, noon, and night. I don't think he even ventures out into the yard unless I go into the yard. He's like a dog. Kinda cute, one might think, but he is kind of odd and seems to have a little mean streak. When I pet him, all is well, but when I stop to go in the house, his tail starts swishing, his ears go back a little, he fixates on my legs and feet, and reaches out and grabs me and attempts to claw or bite me. I'm not amused. I have scratches all over my legs; I have to think twice about going outside now, and put long pants on if I don't want to be clawed and remember to not go out with stockings on. Its a major PITA and, to be honest, I'm a little afraid of him. I don't enjoy being attacked. The other night, we were going to go for our walk, which is a 1.5 mile route, and he followed us. He would not go back so I had to go back because I didn't really want him following us a mile or so and then getting lost. I would have felt bad for him.
This cat is obsessed with me and I don't like it. I have to make sure I have a broom with me when I go out so I can get it between him and me when he starts to attack or to shoo him aside with it. I feel like a prisoner in here.
To compound things, I had gotten in the habit of taking Marbles outside in his walking jacket on weekends and we had a nice little routine going. He enjoyed it and so did I. Now if I take him out, Twin follows us, torments Marbles, Marbles gets vocal and aggressive. I don't want them to have direct contact in case Twin has FIV or FeLV or something and I sure don't want them to fight.
What can I do to get this cat to cool it? He's welcome to eat here and hang out here and we don't mind brushing him and petting him some but he tries to get in when I open the door and, just in general, is making life unpleasant for the inside residents. I know the ideal thing is to get him his own home but we all know how hard that can be and this is an older, somewhat scruffy, antagonistic cat and this is the time of year when baby kitties are abundant. No one will take him, not now anyway, and never if he's gonna attack them. I seriously don't know what to do about him. How can I get him to quit attacking me and following me incessantly?
Candace
Cheryl - 04 Jun 2005 03:03 GMT <snip>
> What can I do to get this cat to cool it? He's welcome to eat > here and hang out here and we don't mind brushing him and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > know what to do about him. How can I get him to quit attacking > me and following me incessantly? Candace, that reminds me so much of Jake from a couple of years ago here. Though, he didn't attack me; I'm not sure what to tell you about that. But Jake never left my deck, except to run around to the front of the house when the windows were open. He tore all my screens trying to come in. It was so sad! I never thought I'd find him a home, either. But as it turned out, I found a home for him and the other friendly stray here. A guy at work took them both and they all lived happily ever after. :) What I did was make some flyers with the help of Megan (she wrote the most heart-wrenching story about how badly he needed a home, I put his picture on it) and I hung the flyers in all the break rooms at work. A guy there answered the ad and asked if he had a friend because he wanted to adopt a pair.
I hope someone has some advice about the attacks, and that really sucks about not being able to take Marbles out. On another note, I'm so happy to read that Abbey is feeling better again and eating. Purrs still coming for you and DH and her and Scottie and Marbles to have a lot more time together.
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Candace - 04 Jun 2005 04:55 GMT > I hope someone has some advice about the attacks, and that really > sucks about not being able to take Marbles out. On another note, > I'm so happy to read that Abbey is feeling better again and eating. > Purrs still coming for you and DH and her and Scottie and Marbles > to have a lot more time together. Yes, it sucks about poor Marbles. I took him to a park about a mile from here this afternoon but he didn't really enjoy himself. He doesn't like riding in the car much either so he was fairly agitated and panting on the way home. He prefers his own yard. At least all the excitement wore him out, he's been sacked out for hours.
Candace
Rhubarb - 04 Jun 2005 05:14 GMT >> I hope someone has some advice about the attacks, and that >> really sucks about not being able to take Marbles out. On [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Candace Poor boy. :( I hope soon he can go back to his normal routine. Its so funny about cats and routine! Creatures of habit, they are!
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bigbadbarry - 04 Jun 2005 03:20 GMT How can I get him to quit attacking me and
> following me incessantly? > > Candace He's pigeon holed and doesn't even know it.
He wants you to bring him in the house, talk trash to him, let him sleep with you and so on.
Why not let him follow you on the walks. This excersize will help him blow off some of them carport blues. Maybe you are able to walk a path where he has little to no chance to be in danger; this way you both get the excersize. This could give him one more thing to look forward to.
I wonder how he would respond to a harness/leash rig? You might be suprised. You could goto put it on him, and if he bucks, then run him back to the house till he learns he's gonna wear it. (if your walking path is just that dangerous).
That cat is crazy about you.
Candace - 04 Jun 2005 05:00 GMT > Why not let him follow you on the walks. This excersize will help him > blow off some of them carport blues. Maybe you are able to walk a path > where he has little to no chance to be in danger; this way you both get > the excersize. This could give him one more thing to look forward to. I don't know, you never know when a dog is going to come dashing out of someone's yard or someone could be walking their dog and a scuffle could ensue. If he were to run off a mile away from here, he might not find his way back. I would prefer that he stay closer but I wish he would at least go out into the yard on his own, watch birdies, lay in the grass, do some normal cat things so he had some enjoyment instead of just waiting to catch a glimpse of me. No one ever found me quite this fascinating.
Karen - 04 Jun 2005 05:32 GMT >> Why not let him follow you on the walks. This excersize will help him >> blow off some of them carport blues. Maybe you are able to walk a path [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > of just waiting to catch a glimpse of me. No one ever found me quite > this fascinating. What if you took out a long wand toy with you? Maybe to get his attention kind off of you specifically?
Karen - 04 Jun 2005 03:32 GMT I wonder if getting him neutered would help. You are evidently "his". He might get less territorial.
Candace - 04 Jun 2005 04:43 GMT > I wonder if getting him neutered would help. You are evidently "his". He > might get less territorial. He is neutered. I only found that out when he got friendly. It was too hard to see through all the long fur until he became more docile. My next door neighbor thinks he used to live in the house behind me, aross an alley. She said she used to see him sitting on a sailboat in that yard but now the sailboat is gone and there appear to be new owners there. What scumbags for dumping the little guy. I think he maybe had a crappy home of sorts until about 2 weeks ago when he began spending every moment here.
Candace
Karen - 04 Jun 2005 04:49 GMT >> I wonder if getting him neutered would help. You are evidently "his". He >> might get less territorial. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Candace Poor guy. I really wish you could find him a home!
Rhonda - 04 Jun 2005 19:45 GMT Candace,
That's a tough one. It doesn't sound to me that this cat has a mean streak as much as abandonment issues. If he really did just start this behavior a couple of weeks ago, right when his family left him, he might feel you will leave him too. He swats at you when you try to leave. Who knows what goes on in their fur brains, but he could just be very needy right now.
I hope you can find a home for him, I know it's tough. If you can't, maybe he will calm down and realize you aren't moving away without him.
I'm glad you're taking care of him, even though it sounds like a hard spot to be in.
Rhonda
>>I wonder if getting him neutered would help. You are evidently "his". He >>might get less territorial. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Candace Meghan Noecker - 05 Jun 2005 03:29 GMT >Candace, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >knows what goes on in their fur brains, but he could just be very needy >right now. When Maynard was a youngster, I also had Fiona. They were good buddies. My sister had only one cat and lived in an apartment. She felt her cat was lonely, so every other weekend, she would borrow Fiona for company (they had been good buddies before my sister moved out).
Every time Fiona was gone, Maynard would start attacking me. Not badly, but enough that I didn't dare take my shoes off. He had lost his playmate and buddy and expected me to be the playmate.
It sounds to me like Twin is very lonely, having lost whatever companions he had. And now he is acting the only way he knows. He might calm down with some time (and realization that you aren't leaving him).
But I like somebody else's idea to put up flyers and see if you can find a home for him. He needs his own personal buddy.
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Innovo - 04 Jun 2005 03:56 GMT > (Sorry, another long post.) > [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > > Candace **Candace,
It's obvious that Twin has a major crush on you! :-). Seriously, I think Cheryl is totally on target. Find a home got him, now. Don't put it off. Just do it. Follow Cheryl's advice. Also, often your local newspaper will run an ad totally free, but you have to ask for it. Mention that you taking care of a stray, can't keep him, and are trying to find a good home for him, then ask if they would run a Free ad under the "cats" section for you.
It's very apparent that 'Twin' is causing a big disruption for you and your other cats so I'd try to find him a home, ASAP. You'll never know if you can unless you at least try to find him a home, and you can certainly screen and interview all the people who show an interest in taking him. It will be your* call to decide who you let him go to, and what the conditions and rules will be with them.
Good luck, and may God bless you for taking good care of him and doing the right and good thing(s) for him.
ML
Candace - 04 Jun 2005 04:49 GMT > It's obvious that Twin has a major crush on you! :-). Seriously, I think > Cheryl is totally on target. Find a home got him, now. Don't put it off. > Just do it. Follow Cheryl's advice. Also, often your local newspaper will > run an ad totally free, but you have to ask for it. Mention that you taking > care of a stray, can't keep him, and are trying to find a good home for him, > then ask if they would run a Free ad under the "cats" section for you. I can try, yes, but I just went through trying to get a kitty a home when the little baby kitty was here in April. I ran an ad for her, too. The only positive response I got was the rescue group I mentioned. I guess I can try them again, too, but I think they would be more likely to say yes when the kitten crop has thinned out.
There are only 17 people in my office (not animal lovers) and we are isolated from the rest of the corp. There is nowhere to hang an ad. I can try but I have to concentrate my major efforts on my sickly kitty, Abbey, right now.
Candace
Rhubarb - 04 Jun 2005 05:12 GMT >> It's obvious that Twin has a major crush on you! :-). >> Seriously, I think Cheryl is totally on target. Find a home got [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Candace I'm tellin' ya girl, let Megan write a heartbreaking story about him, print up a bunch with his picture, hang them up in vets offices, your office, PetSmart and Petco bulletin boards, the local shelters, I believe even Walmart stores have community bb's where you can put up a flyer ... it just might work!
My worst moments here with these strays before they were adopted was when Hurricane Isobel blew through. The guy that took them was going to come by a week after the warnings about the storm. It had already been a stormy summer but that storm, I couldn't find either of them before I had to take refuge in the basement for the night. The next day I went around looking for them and they came out a few hours later. I was a wreck. I wanted to try to get them before the storm and put them in the downstairs bathroom, but time ran out.
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bigbadbarry - 04 Jun 2005 06:25 GMT > Cheryl > > "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited > breath." > - W.C. Fields What up Rhubarb!
haha I love it!
What in the world you doing posting at a place called buzzard? hehehe
Cheryl - 06 Jun 2005 23:47 GMT >> Cheryl >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > What in the world you doing posting at a place called buzzard? > hehehe WTF do you care where I post? I should tell you that I've changed my posting name to one of my cats name and posted as if it was coming from him. Not here, though. Does that interest you too? If so, why?
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bigbadbarry - 07 Jun 2005 00:03 GMT > WTF do you care where I post? I should tell you that I've changed > my posting name to one of my cats name and posted as if it was > coming from him. Not here, though. Does that interest you too? If > so, why? Oh, that was last week, I don't care about that no more.
Where have you been and whied you stay soo long.
Mary - 07 Jun 2005 01:52 GMT > > WTF do you care where I post? I should tell you that I've changed > > my posting name to one of my cats name and posted as if it was [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Where have you been and whied you stay soo long. She announced last week that she was "lurking." My guess is that she has been waiting for all the people she can't stand to go away. :) I wonder how that's working for her?
Mary - 07 Jun 2005 01:50 GMT > >> Cheryl > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > coming from him. Not here, though. Does that interest you too? If > so, why? Because you're a flaming hypocrite who netdicks others in an attempt at intimidation, then gets your drawers in a knot when anyone mentions the very clear, very sordid trail you have left in Usenet?
Just a guess. :)
Cheryl - 07 Jun 2005 02:15 GMT >> >> Cheryl >> >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Just a guess. :) Excuse me? Care to prove this "drawers in a knot" allegation? While you're at it, explain "sordid". You keep saying this, but it means absolutely nothing. Just because you keep writing this every time you can't think of a witty reply doesn't make it true. Do us all a favor and ignore my posts. I bet you can't.
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"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields
Mary - 07 Jun 2005 07:27 GMT > >> >> Cheryl > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > time you can't think of a witty reply doesn't make it true. Do us > all a favor and ignore my posts. I bet you can't. Bet you're still a wastoid control freak, jlh@petitmorte.net.
:) Cheryl - 08 Jun 2005 01:40 GMT >> Excuse me? Care to prove this "drawers in a knot" allegation? >> While you're at it, explain "sordid". You keep saying this, but [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >:) Oh goodie. Mary's Greatest Hits, vol 1, track 4.
Clue - NO ONE CARES. Get it?
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"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields
Mary - 09 Jun 2005 02:19 GMT > >> Excuse me? Care to prove this "drawers in a knot" allegation? > >> While you're at it, explain "sordid". You keep saying this, but [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Clue - NO ONE CARES. Get it?
:) CATacombs - 04 Jun 2005 16:10 GMT It's nice that the cat is obsessed with you, Candace.
And you seem a tad obsessesed yourself.
Candace - 04 Jun 2005 20:00 GMT > It's nice that the cat is obsessed with you, Candace. > > And you seem a tad obsessesed yourself. Meaning?
Mary - 04 Jun 2005 21:19 GMT > > It's nice that the cat is obsessed with you, Candace. > > > > And you seem a tad obsessesed yourself. > > Meaning? It looks like this j.rkoff likes to jump on anyone who is having a hard time.
Jen M. - 05 Jun 2005 16:53 GMT It seems that he has adopted you and it would appear that that was a smart choice by him. He is a survivor and he will learn how to adapt. I have a feeling that talking with him would work. Sounds silly I know--but try it and see. I like the idea that someone said--take a tassle toy with you and see how that works?
Could you put him a bed someplace else to help him get used to the area?
Have a spray water bottle handy. Work with positive behavior modification.
It's understandable if you adopt him out--but I have a feeling that you would have a fierce loyal family member if you can help him over this anxiety/aggression.
How are things going now?
Wishing you all the best!
Sincerely, Jen
>> > It's nice that the cat is obsessed with you, Candace. >> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >It looks like this j.rkoff likes to jump on anyone who is having a hard >time.
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