Noticed over the last few months that, Neil, our 10 yr old scruffy cat
has become very boney (you can feel his spine) but his abdoemn looks
very swollen indeed.
At first, we thought it was just him getting fat because hes spolit and
a bit lazt but now I'm not so sure. I know we've got to take him to the
vets but I've got a nasty feeling its going to be bad.
He always seems to be hungry and is sick a fait bit...
We know its not worms because he regularloy gets treated. Anybody got
any guesses what it might be ?
Candace - 03 Jun 2005 21:43 GMT
> We know its not worms because he regularloy gets treated. Anybody got
> any guesses what it might be ?
Yes, he needs to see a vet very soon. I can think of all sorts of bad
things it could be, unfortunately. He could have fluid in his abdomen
from cancer or FIP (feline infectious peritonitis) or FeLV. If he's
sick a lot, he is probably feeling quite bad as cats can mask their
symptoms very well. On the other hand, he may have something that can
be treated fairly easily and allow him to live a few more years.
Chronic renal failure, hyperthyroidism, all sorts of diseases common in
older cats that can be treated successfully.
Candace
sriddles@aol.com - 04 Jun 2005 03:25 GMT
> > We know its not worms because he regularloy gets treated. Anybody got
> > any guesses what it might be ?
>
> Yes, he needs to see a vet very soon. I can think of all sorts of bad
> things it could be, unfortunately. He could have fluid in his abdomen
> from cancer or FIP (feline infectious peritonitis) or FeLV.
> Candace
I hate to mention it, but the FIP cats I've seen look like that. Hope
it isn't that.
Sherry
Joe Canuck - 03 Jun 2005 23:30 GMT
> Noticed over the last few months that, Neil, our 10 yr old scruffy cat
> has become very boney (you can feel his spine) but his abdoemn looks
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> We know its not worms because he regularloy gets treated. Anybody got
> any guesses what it might be ?
Vet... ASAP!
...and you have allowed this to go on for months?
<shaking head>
Rhonda - 04 Jun 2005 08:20 GMT
Good luck to Neil -- please let us know what the vet has to say.
Worms would be the easiest to cure but if you regularly worm him, I'm
afraid it could be something very serious.
Keep us posted.
Rhonda
> Noticed over the last few months that, Neil, our 10 yr old scruffy cat
> has become very boney (you can feel his spine) but his abdoemn looks
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> We know its not worms because he regularloy gets treated. Anybody got
> any guesses what it might be ?
BertieBigBollox@gmail.com - 04 Jun 2005 11:47 GMT
Vets Monday for Neil...
Been looking into FIP. It certainly could be this I guess - I hope not
!
And I hope our other cat, Kevin, doesn't get it as well.
Fingers crossed for Neil...
Pat - 04 Jun 2005 14:00 GMT
I posted a message earlier in the week on my cat who is showing the
same symptoms. Our vet did many tests and suspects lymphoma. Going to
specialist next week. I'll be watching to see what you find out for
Neil. Good luck!
Mary - 04 Jun 2005 15:49 GMT
> Vets Monday for Neil...
>
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>
> Fingers crossed for Neil...
I hope Monday is not too late.
Candace - 04 Jun 2005 20:16 GMT
> Vets Monday for Neil...
>
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>
> Fingers crossed for Neil...
I hope it's not that, too. Maybe since he has had whatever it is for
several months, that might indicate that it is not FIP? I don't know.
It is now generally thought that FIP isn't contagious. The corona
virus is contagious but it is also very common among cats, esp. in
multi-cat households. It is thought that FIP is a mutation of the
corona virus. So it would be unlikely for it to mutate in both cats.
My hyperthyroid cat had a bony spine but he didn't have the swollen
abdomen.
Good luck to Neil.
Candace
Barb - 04 Jun 2005 15:38 GMT
I took my Sapphire to the vet as soon as I felt her spine bone. It came on
very suddenly. She only lived another 2 weeks. The diagnosis was lymphoma
and we were just about to start chemo which can be quite successful with
some cats. Unfortunately she just went downhill too fast.
When I feel that bone I know it is ominous. The only cat whose bone I felt
and went on to be okay was Pepper's who now is on Tapazol for thyroid and
gained back her weight.
Let us know what the vet says.
--
Barb
Of course I don't look busy,
I did it right the first time.
BertieBigBollox@gmail.com - 08 Jun 2005 10:13 GMT
> I took my Sapphire to the vet as soon as I felt her spine bone. It came on
> very suddenly. She only lived another 2 weeks. The diagnosis was lymphoma
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>
> Let us know what the vet says.
After the vet visit, the vet thought that Neils Liver seemed a bit big,
and they took some blood for testing. Result of the tests indicate it
looks like a tumour but hes having x-ray and ultrasound today and more
blood tests.
Vet has mentioned low does chemo if its a tumour but has mentioned
probs if theres a small child in the house...
Karen - 08 Jun 2005 16:42 GMT
> > I took my Sapphire to the vet as soon as I felt her spine bone. It came on
> > very suddenly. She only lived another 2 weeks. The diagnosis was lymphoma
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> Vet has mentioned low does chemo if its a tumour but has mentioned
> probs if theres a small child in the house...
Why? Would the child pass on something that his immune system couldn't
handle??
Philip - 08 Jun 2005 16:51 GMT
>> > I took my Sapphire to the vet as soon as I felt her spine bone. It
>> > came
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> Why? Would the child pass on something that his immune system couldn't
> handle??
ALL chemotherapy suppresses immune system activity to dangerously low levels
of protection.
Karen - 08 Jun 2005 17:00 GMT
> >> > I took my Sapphire to the vet as soon as I felt her spine bone. It
> >> > came
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> ALL chemotherapy suppresses immune system activity to dangerously low levels
> of protection.
Yes, I know. That's what I meant. I wondered if the vet thinks toddlers pass
on more sickness than adults. I have just never heard this concerning
youngsters in the house.
BertieBigBollox@gmail.com - 09 Jun 2005 09:38 GMT
> > >> > I took my Sapphire to the vet as soon as I felt her spine bone. It
> > >> > came
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> on more sickness than adults. I have just never heard this concerning
> youngsters in the house.
Well. Looking at some of the stuff on the web it does recommend that
you take precautions when dealing with chemo drugs for your pets. Such
as wearing rubber gloves, disposing of stuff properly, cleaning
sleeping/eating areas etc.
With a toddler in the house, although its straightforward to keep him
away from the stuff, I suppose he would have exposure to the treated
cats bodily fluids (e.g. excrement etc in the garden) possibly...
But then surely due to the size of a cat the dose can't be that big
(compared to a toddlers size) and how much of the 'active ingredient'
of the chemo is passed through the cat ?
And finally what are the dangers of exposure to a very small amount of
chemo if you dont really need it ?
Shadow Walker - 22 Jun 2005 00:50 GMT
No the cat will shed radiation into the environment making it unsafe for the
child.
Shadow Walker
> > > I took my Sapphire to the vet as soon as I felt her spine bone. It came
> on
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> Why? Would the child pass on something that his immune system couldn't
> handle??
Shadow Walker - 29 Jun 2005 00:45 GMT
I'm sorry I ment chemicals shed into the enviroment.Doh.
Shadow Walker
> No the cat will shed radiation into the environment making it unsafe for the
> child.
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> > Why? Would the child pass on something that his immune system couldn't
> > handle??
Shadow Walker - 22 Jun 2005 00:54 GMT
No the cat will shed radiation into the environment making it unsafe for the
child. Any radiation and small children or even adults is not safe. They
recommend anyone who has had cancer or a family history of it to stay away
from people who have had chemo or any test that requires radioactive
isotopes.
Shadow Walker
> > > I took my Sapphire to the vet as soon as I felt her spine bone. It came
> on
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> Why? Would the child pass on something that his immune system couldn't
> handle??
Barb - 22 Jun 2005 15:28 GMT
I think radiation is what they are worried about, not chemo.
I had breast cancer and had radiation. This would not have stopped me from
letting my Sapphire have chemo.
--
Barb
Of course I don't look busy,
I did it right the first time.
Larry - 25 Jun 2005 01:56 GMT
Chemo drugs are carcenigetic and are eliminated in the poop/urine. Having
contact with the poop/urine would raise your cancer risk and the concern is
that kids may contact them.
Treating a tumor with beamed radiation (not indictable like I 131 for
thyroid problems) will not result in any lasting radiation after the beaming
is over. No radiation is shed.

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Larry - Owned by nine cats
> I think radiation is what they are worried about, not chemo.
>
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> Of course I don't look busy,
> I did it right the first time.