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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / June 2005Interstitial Cystitis: Anti-depressants?
Our vet told us about interstitial cystitis being aggravated by stress. Since Louis continues to be freaked out and occasionally tagging a door, I'm considering trying the antidepressant he suggested. Anyone have experience going down this route? Thanks. BLink > Our vet told us about interstitial cystitis being aggravated by > stress. Since Louis continues to be freaked out and occasionally [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > BLink I know very little about feline biology; I keep seeing ?'s like yours posted. I cannot make a connection between posting and depression? I think it is natural for me to be inclined to believe that Louis's dick tip is burning, so he's walkng around trying to rid the senstation. However; I can see a physiological drug, having some effect on the biological, maybe I'm just lost in definitions, but I do not understand how making Louis happy by un-depressing him with anti-depressant is going to stop his wee wee from burning. I meant, peeing and depression above You better leave that cat alone and stop tampering with his natural mind. > > Our vet told us about interstitial cystitis being aggravated by > > stress. Since Louis continues to be freaked out and occasionally [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > understand how making Louis happy by un-depressing him with > anti-depressant is going to stop his wee wee from burning. Two points: 1) those medications we label as "anti-depressants" because one thing they do is relieve depression are actually multi-purpose drugs, and 2) at least in humans, depression can have a load of physiological manifestations, and when the underlying neurological problem is addressed, its manifestations and effects elsewhere in the body are minimized or eliminated. It's not about happy vs unhappy. Priscilla  Signature"Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the hell happened." -- Cora Harvey Armstrong > It's not about happy vs unhappy. In Louis's case, the vet says he found no infections. The vets first thought was infection; as was everyone elses, probably. Are you referring to crazy pills? I mean, is this what is comes down to? You can tell me. >In Louis's case, the vet says he found no infections. then why would his "wee wee" (aka PENIS for those of us who are adults) hurt, as you say? SignatureJanet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album > >In Louis's case, the vet says he found no infections. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com > http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album My thing is, how do you treat a infection with crazy pills... that was my point. I go.."vet looks for infection"...only to show it is logical to believe there is infection. (even the vet thought so) >> It's not about happy vs unhappy. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to? > You can tell me. IC does not necessarily include infections. I explained in another post about how the recommended medications are effective due to both stress relief and anti-inflamatory properties. It's a proven treatment. > IC does not necessarily include infections. I explained in another post > about how the recommended medications are effective due to both stress > relief and anti-inflamatory properties. It's a proven treatment.>> Hi Karen, Which thread was that in? That would be handy to pass on to the Yahoo Stone Forming cats group. -- Alison:) http://catinfolinks.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/ http://doginfolinks.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/ >> IC does not necessarily include infections. I explained in another > post [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Which thread was that in? That would be handy to pass on to the > Yahoo Stone Forming cats group. This thread. Just earlier. You can also google Interstitial Cystitis and find the info. > > It's not about happy vs unhappy. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to? > You can tell me. You're being offensive. Anti-depressants are not "crazy pills." Priscilla Signature"Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the hell happened." -- Cora Harvey Armstrong > You're being offensive. Anti-depressants are not "crazy pills." Well, Im just a bottom line kinda guy If you don't know the answer, just say... I don't know. >>> Our vet told us about interstitial cystitis being aggravated by >>> stress. Since Louis continues to be freaked out and occasionally [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Priscilla The big one used "amytriptelene" (not sure of spelling here) also has anti-inflamatory properties. It is also used in people for IC. It can really help them get over a "hump". Grant was on it for a little bit after they cleared a partial blockage. > > Two points: 1) those medications we label as "anti-depressants" because > > one thing they do is relieve depression are actually multi-purpose [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > It's not about happy vs unhappy. > The big one used "amytriptelene" (not sure of spelling here) also has > anti-inflamatory properties. It is also used in people for IC. It can really > help them get over a "hump". Grant was on it for a little bit after they > cleared a partial blockage. It's also a very good muscle relaxant. Priscilla Signature"Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the hell happened." -- Cora Harvey Armstrong > The big one used "amytriptelene" (not sure of spelling here) also has > anti-inflamatory properties. It is also used in people for IC. It can really > help them get over a "hump". Grant was on it for a little bit after they > cleared a partial blockage. Hello Well, not to be tedious; but if anti-inflamatory relieves the symptoms, would you agree there is still a root cause that has not been addressed. My concern is that the anti-inflamatory will work and life goes on for everyone; but never having challengedt the question of why the salt tablet was needed in the first place. > > The big one used "amytriptelene" (not sure of spelling here) also has > > anti-inflamatory properties. It is also used in people for IC. It can really [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > goes on for everyone; but never having challengedt the question of why > the salt tablet was needed in the first place. Well, that is the big mystery of IC in feline or human. THey do not KNOW what causes it. Only that stress exacerbates it. http://www.ichelp.org/ Last Christmas Rusty was put on an anti-depressant Clomicalm for inapproriate urination after ruling out any medical condition. He stopped peeing on the floor right away after the 1st dose. The vet said the drug also has an anti-inflammatory effect on the kidneys. After he finished the first 2 weeks of medication, he started up again. He was put back on the medication. So far so good and we even twice cut back on the dosage. Rusty also has a history of urinary problems. Winnie > in article vze23t8n-756E75.17540202062005@news.verizon.net, Priscilla > Ballou [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > help them get over a "hump". Grant was on it for a little bit after they > cleared a partial blockage. > Our vet told us about interstitial cystitis being aggravated by > stress. Since Louis continues to be freaked out and occasionally [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > BLink>> My cat has FIC and since she been on a total wet diet and a GAG supplement and also has a Feliway diffuser, she has not had a bout for over a year. Alison |
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