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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / June 2005Rescued from Shelter
Ok ... I found a cat. Not the Bengal kitten or like tempered orange tabby kitten I was after but ... that's what happens when you go shopping the Bargain Bin. In the past 7 days, I've seen enough colors, breeds, temperaments, and condition of cat to make memory of them all run together. But one keep popping up in my mind. Decided today to go back to that particular shelter and if that particular tabby was still there ... bust him out of kitty jail. Geez ... all the freekin' paperwork, microchip, couple of spot blood tests (and shots only as dictated by testing). I've bought new cars that generated as much paper! INcluded is a free end to end exam if scheduled during the first 72 hrs ownership. As is, he got a clean bill of health ... enough to be released to me. Oh ... about the cat. Stray, estimated 2 yrs old. Neutered. Medium/large frame and well muscled. Very lean. VERY dark orange striping with a cinnamon roll swirl on his sides but high contrast striping on the legs and tail. High narrow set yellow eyes. Very dark pink nose that is quite long for its face and dark pink ears. This one has a "face" that reminds me of somebody I used to know ... and he was Irish and drank a lot. LOL this one is a leaper too. Already made the top of the refrigerator in a single bound. Investigated behind everything in the house in the first hour. Communicates alot with tail lashing. Used the litter box. Comes running at the sound of dry cat food bag being opened. All this an more we learned in the first couple of hours. Likes to roll over and beg you to play with him. But beware. He will grab your hand with both paws and then give you a nip when he's had enough. There is sudden tail lashing in the seconds leading up to the nip. The wife didn't take the hint and so predictably, he treated her to a bite ... not a nip. I saw it coming and told her but ... Now the ride home from the pound is a whole 'nuther story. LOL >Ok ... I found a cat. Not the Bengal kitten or like tempered orange tabby >kitten I was after but ... that's what happens when you go shopping the [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >Now the ride home from the pound is a whole 'nuther story. LOL Fantastic!! I'm glad you found your little buddy finally, I'm sure he's got a great home there. Look on the bright side of the new car analogy -- he didn't depreciate any the moment you rolled him out of the shelter! One more thing -- pictures! >> Ok ... I found a cat. Not the Bengal kitten or like tempered orange >> tabby kitten I was after but ... that's what happens when you go [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > One more thing -- pictures! Pictures. Well, strangely enough I was able to get three snapshots of this HIGHLY mobile tom. But I do not have free hosting through earthlink. If there was another way (meaning "free") to make these pictures available, I might do so. I'm not up on this stuff. Coming up with a name for this one is already a challenge. Depreciation. Well, he does come with a 15 day "no fault" return policy ... just like a cell phone! LOL (I can hear the screams now ... "He thinks cats are like cars, are like cell phones! Call the Fur Police!") The nipping/biting thing is the only behavior demonstrated in the first 12 hrs that might be why he was shown the door by the previous owner. This one's vocabulary includes a series (dozen or so in a couple of seconds) of deliberate and rapid nostril snorting ... just short of a sneeze when agitated (he did not appreciate being intercepted and relocated during an escape attempt out the back door). No telling how long he was living out of doors before Animal Control caught him. > >> Ok ... I found a cat. Not the Bengal kitten or like tempered orange > >> tabby kitten I was after but ... that's what happens when you go [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > escape attempt out the back door). No telling how long he was living out of > doors before Animal Control caught him. Sounds JUST like my Pearl. She's quite the "disgusted huffer". Nips too, but always stops when told "no" gently. Make up a Yahoo album for free. WOuld love to see him. SOunds quite confident to be so forthcoming in a brand new place. >>>> Ok ... I found a cat. Not the Bengal kitten or like tempered >>>> orange tabby kitten I was after but ... that's what happens when [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > for free. WOuld love to see him. SOunds quite confident to be so > forthcoming in a brand new place. Yahoo Album? Hmmm. Ok, I'll run this past my son ... he's the one who keeps my computer working. I'm a Windows Weenie. "Need a Name" spent a good portion of the night curled up on the foot of our bed. So far, he is okay with dry Iams Original formula. Canned food ... eh. Iams chicken/rice met with moderate approval while 9Lives veal chunks in gravy ... well ... he ate some and then reached around the dish and symbolically covered it up like so much excrement. The remainder will be readily devoured by the feral outdoor ... guaranteed. > Ok ... I found a cat. Not the Bengal kitten or like tempered orange tabby > kitten I was after but ... that's what happens when you go shopping the > Bargain Bin. Bargain bin? So you somehow think if you paid more money you would have received a "better" cat? My sister paid big bucks for two Persians and in the space of two years spent thousands on the male, only to have him die of a malignant tumor anyway. His sister has problems but at least is still alive. Point is t's a crap shoot, breeder or shelter, unless you were looking to find a cat that matches your couch. > In the past 7 days, I've seen enough colors, breeds, temperaments, and > condition of cat to make memory of them all run together. But one keep [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > one is a leaper too. Already made the top of the refrigerator in a single > bound. Investigated behind everything in the house in the first hour. This is really good since many new cats hide at first. Since you say you wanted a Bengal or "like-tempered" cat, I assume you wanted a bold cat full of personality, sounds like you got him! > Communicates alot with tail lashing. Used the litter box. Comes running at > the sound of dry cat food bag being opened. All this an more we learned in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > up to the nip. The wife didn't take the hint and so predictably, he treated > her to a bite ... not a nip. I saw it coming and told her but ... You will both learn his signs, when he has had enough petting. This is a typical thing, when cats are overstimulated, they tend to bite. If indeed he broke the skin your wife needs to have it seen to by a doctor to avoid infection. > Now the ride home from the pound is a whole 'nuther story. LOL He sounds like a wonderful boy. I hope you treat him as the treasure he is, and not as a "bargain bin" cat. Invest in a cat carrier and the rides to and from the vet will not be so wild. Best of luck with your new cat and bless you for rescuing a cat that needs a home. >> Ok ... I found a cat. Not the Bengal kitten or like tempered orange tabby >> kitten I was after but ... that's what happens when you go shopping the [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >to and from the vet will not be so wild. Best of luck with your new cat >and bless you for rescuing a cat that needs a home. I don't think we'll have to worry about 'ol Phillip treasuring him -- Phil and Mrs. Phil are well on their way to being owned :-) That cat chose him, pure and simple! > >> Ok ... I found a cat. Not the Bengal kitten or like tempered orange tabby > >> kitten I was after but ... that's what happens when you go shopping the [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > Phil and Mrs. Phil are well on their way to being owned :-) That cat > chose him, pure and simple! Yep. You know, I was up earlier than usual this morning and tired, and Philip's tone was so different than usual when he was talking about this neat cat that is now all his, I thought he had to be ANOTHER Philip! That is the only reason I replied to him. This sounds like a very special cat and just as you say, like he chose them. There is nothing as wonderful as getting a wonderful rescue cat. There just cannot be. > Ok ... I found a cat. > Now the ride home from the pound is a whole 'nuther >story. LOL You sound excited. Now what about the ride home, was the cat trying to drive the car? >> Ok ... I found a cat. > Now the ride home from the pound is a whole >> 'nuther >story. LOL > > You sound excited. > > Now what about the ride home, was the cat trying to drive the car? Ah well. The Warden started issuing instructions like a drill instructor regarding the impending new home introduction and transport in the cardboard cat carrier. I laughed and said "As soon as the cat is in the truck, I'm letting him out. This will make is new home seem like a place of calm safety by comparison." LOL She shot me a strangely distrustful look. Out in the truck (my kick about town POS diesel powered Datsun) I let "Cat" out. This is a BIG cat (14 lbs of lean cat) for the box they provided. He did what all cats do .... roamed from one side of the cab to the other, voicing his concerns and looking out the windows. About 8 miles later, he was stressed ... and curled up in my lap for the remaining 3 miles. Arriving home, he headed for the first dark corner and hid ... for about 5 minutes. I called him out ... he came ... then after some stroking, took off to explore behind everything in the house. Last night, "Cat" (We're still waiting for an appropriate name to occur to one of us), spent most of the night on the foot of our bed. This morning was a shocker. I was in the shower. A couple of minutes later, I hear "Cat" yowling. I turned around in the shower and there's "Cat" standing with paws on the edge of the tub. I flicked some water on him which didn't faze him. Back to showering. A minute later, more crying. He's up on the bathroom basin looking at me, continuing his crying/inquiry at volume. I tossed a handful of water his way ... splat. Back to shampooing my hair. When I brought my head out from under the shower and turned around, "Cat" was crouched on the window sill OVER the tub!!! That's a good 5 foot leap onto a narrow, tiled, wet ledge! Looks like we've got a water cat. So I wetted him down a bit with wet hands which didn't faze him a bit. HOW WEIRD ... so soon. This cat is full of surprises and we've had him only 15 hrs > This cat is full of surprises and we've had > him only 15 hrs This is sounding like a match made in heaven. He was just waiting for you to pick him up and bring him to the home that was being prepared for him. Thanks for following the plan! ;-) Priscilla  Signature"Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the hell happened." -- Cora Harvey Armstrong Looks like we've got a > water cat. So I wetted him down a bit with wet hands which didn't faze him > a bit. HOW WEIRD ... so soon. This cat is full of surprises and we've had > him only 15 hrs. He sounds very happy to be at your house. About this biting, I'm still convinced it's just playful bander. If he was serious, he'd lay his ears back and warn you first. I saw a video of 2wo Jaquars mateing (I didn't go looking for it, it was in the reportiore at thier site; but when he was finishing, he gnashed her with his teeth, and bounced away (usually it's the other way around) But I suppose he'll learn how to be more gentle. > Looks like we've got a >> water cat. So I wetted him down a bit with wet hands which didn't [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > But I suppose he'll learn how to be more gentle. I distinguished between "nips" and "bites." The slashing tail is the precursor to *a* nip ... followed by *a* bite. Remember, it hasn't been 24 hrs yet ... and all this has happened and been discovered. But I prefer fast break-ins anyway. Drive 'em briskly from the git-go and you won't have an oil burner. ;^) Right now, he's sacked out on a lower shelf behind a row of encyclopedias. Next hurtle is to find a canned food he likes. 9Lives got the litterbox paw over and the IAMS Lamb/Rice was met with luke warm acceptance. > Next hurtle is to find a canned food he likes. 9Lives got the litterbox paw > over and the IAMS Lamb/Rice was met with luke warm acceptance. All of mine like Nutro Max Cat, Nutro Natural Choice, and Natural Balance. Priscilla Signature"Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the hell happened." -- Cora Harvey Armstrong >> Next hurtle is to find a canned food he likes. 9Lives got the >> litterbox paw over and the IAMS Lamb/Rice was met with luke warm [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Priscilla I"m pretty sure I saw that brand line at Petco or PetSmart. I stopped by Kentucky Colonels today ... brought home a couple of drumsticks. I picked them clean and served 'em. "Cat" ('cuz we're still working on a good fitting name) gave it all a big sniff and inhaled everything (no skin or bones). While I had me back turned for a moment, "Cat" hopped up on the kitchen counter and stuck his puss in a cup of milk I had just poured. OhhhhKay! There went about 3-4 ounces in about a minute. This critter has no shame. ;^) Certainly has shown more interest in anything we eat than what is set out for him. >I"m pretty sure I saw that brand line at Petco or PetSmart. I stopped by >Kentucky Colonels today ... brought home a couple of drumsticks. I picked [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >no shame. ;^) Certainly has shown more interest in anything we eat than >what is set out for him. Jay Jay is bonkers for milk. I think the lady who was feeding him (and finally turned him into the shelter) must have been giving him milk. I turned my head, and jumped up on the table and landed in my bowl of cereal. While I was drying off my lap, he was standing with his feet in the bowl licking away. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >> I"m pretty sure I saw that brand line at Petco or PetSmart. I >> stopped by Kentucky Colonels today ... brought home a couple of [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > cereal. While I was drying off my lap, he was standing with his feet > in the bowl licking away. What is this with a cat that knees down with its paws IN its food or drink? What brought about this strangeness? > Next hurtle is to find a canned food he likes. I used to have a doberman, it took her about 3 days to acquire the taste for spinach. Phillip, So good to hear you found a cat, and at the pound! "Mackerel" pattern on his sides, very vocal, likes water and weighs 14 pounds, Phillip, you just might have found a boy with Bengal blood lines in his background! He sounds absolutely awesome! The first thing you really should teach him is how to walk on a lead, which will also involve getting his used to wearing a harness; the figure "8" types are best for mini-tigers! And it sounds like you definitely have a Tiger on your hands! Please do check out the Yahoo Photo, another, less restrictive on line album would be Photobucket (www.photobucket.com), and a much easier to use and share site than Yahoo. Mephistopheles would be a good name for this big boy! Hemma > Phillip, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Bengal blood lines in his background! He sounds absolutely > awesome! Exactly what I thought when reading about him. The jumping distance, too. :) > The first thing you really should teach him is how to walk on a > lead, which will also involve getting his used to wearing a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Mephistopheles would be a good name for this big boy! I like that! "A manufactured name of a devil or familiar spirit which first appeared in the late medieval Faust legend. The name is possibly derived from three Greek words meaning 'not loving the light'." http://www.pantheon.org/articles/m/mephistopheles.html Fits as a cat name, though quite a mouthful. lol > Hemma Congrats on the adoption, Philip. Sounds like a match to me! Yes! Another poor soul saved from death! H'rray! SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > Phillip, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > pounds, Phillip, you just might have found a boy with Bengal blood > lines in his background! He sounds absolutely awesome! If or when my son figures out the possible free file hosting on Yahoo, I'll see if I can make some photos available. > The first thing you really should teach him is how to walk on a lead, > which will also involve getting his used to wearing a harness; the > figure "8" types are best for mini-tigers! And it sounds like you > definitely have a Tiger on your hands! Tiger, eh? I found today that the postman sets him off ... growling with ears back. Geez. > Please do check out the Yahoo Photo, another, less restrictive on line > album would be Photobucket (www.photobucket.com), and a much easier to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hemma Oh! Ok, I'll pass that along! Thank you. MistaFewFleas? What? ;^) Hemma: Son says Photobucket was easy as falling off a log. Thank you. Here's a few photos: http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/P1010153.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/P1010147.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/P1010144.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/P1010142.jpg > Phillip, > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Hemma > Hemma: Son says Photobucket was easy as falling off a log. Thank you. > Here's a few photos: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/P1010144.jpg > http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/P1010142.jpg What a gorgeous boy! Awesome cat! He's a really big fella too, looks like he's take up the entire chairr if he decided he wanted it for himself! Does his "bull's eye" repeat on both sides? He is a beaut! Photobucket is one of the best free (and premium) on line photo hosting sites, figured you'd like it a lot better than Yahoo. Hemma > Awesome cat! He's a really big fella too, looks like he's take up the > entire chairr if he decided he wanted it for himself! Conan is showing himself to be a "springer tabby" ... able to leap tall appliances with a single bound. > Does his "bull's eye" repeat on both sides? Yes. He's symetrical. > He is a beaut! He's also VERY short haired .... yet, sheads alot right now which can be due to stress and the warmer weather. > Photobucket is one of the best free (and premium) on line photo > hosting sites, figured you'd like it a lot better than Yahoo. > > Hemma Yes, and thank you again. My son showed me how to up photos there .... I think I can do it on my own next time. >Hemma: Son says Photobucket was easy as falling off a log. Thank you. >Here's a few photos: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/P1010144.jpg >http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/P1010142.jpg He's awesome!!! Congrats and thanks for sharing! >> Phillip, >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >> Hemma > Hemma: Son says Photobucket was easy as falling off a log. Thank you. > Here's a few photos: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/P1010144.jpg > http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/P1010142.jpg He's very handsome! so that's 6 cats now. one more cat and you can do away with the electric blanket. hoo ha look, I see your mailing address in one of the pics, did you mean to post that? Later >> Hemma: Son says Photobucket was easy as falling off a log. Thank >> you. Here's a few photos: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Later Six cats? No .... he's the only cat in our house. Electric blanket? Haven't owned one of those in 50 yrs! You see my mailing address in the picture? I don't. Hmmm. ***He's regal looking boy, and what pretty green eyes he has! You could name him Prince or Blaze, although I know that both of those names aren't exactly original ;-). But hey, who cares if it really fits him. Or, you could call him by you or your son's initials, like...P.J. Anyway, please do let us know when you decide on a name for "Cat", and hopefully it won't be "Mole" since you said he likes to burrow ;-), and yes, it could* take a while for you and your family to finally narrow down and choose the right* name for him. ML > Hemma: Son says Photobucket was easy as falling off a log. Thank you. > Here's a few photos: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > Hemma > Hemma: Son says Photobucket was easy as falling off a log. Thank you. > Here's a few photos: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/P1010144.jpg > http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/P1010142.jpg He's a handsome fellow, all right! Priscilla Signature"Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the hell happened." -- Cora Harvey Armstrong > Hemma: Son says Photobucket was easy as falling off a log. Thank you. > Here's a few photos: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/P1010144.jpg > http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/BigRedKitty/P1010142.jpg Wow. What a looker!! >> Hemma: Son says Photobucket was easy as falling off a log. Thank >> you. Here's a few photos: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> > Wow. What a looker!! At times and under mild lighting, "Cat" (still working on a proper name) will cock his head, squint one eye a little, and start lashing the tail around furiously for a couple of seconds. When he talks, he looks a little up at you and speaks loudly. Hopefully I have a camera handy for one of those moments. >> Next hurtle is to find a canned food he likes. > > I used to have a doberman, it took her about 3 days to acquire the > taste for spinach. Part of my dinner became part of "Cat's" dinner last night. Snow peas in butter sauce. He was will to eat one for the other. Doberman? Spinach? You did this deliberately, why? > Part of my dinner became part of "Cat's" dinner last night. Snow peas in > butter sauce. He was will to eat one for the other. Doberman? Spinach? > You did this deliberately, why? No, I'm just being silly in regards to finnicky eaters. I had a doby, but didn't feed her spinach. She was a big lap dog. People say, "Oh I would never eat meat", I think, you'd cannibalize a body if you was hungry enough. (OT) Why not name him something simple, he looks like "Jack" to me. >> Part of my dinner became part of "Cat's" dinner last night. Snow >> peas in butter sauce. He was will to eat one for the other. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Why not name him something simple, he looks like "Jack" to me. Gad ... I need to get a grammar proof reader at times! Do you think there is some Bengal or other hybrid in this cat? The shower experience this morning was a first for any cat I've ever owned to say nothing of the leap from the edge of the tub to the window above the shower while I had my back turned! We had a neighbor years ago with a female Dobby. She ALWAYS had some kind of serious dry skin condition going on somewhere on her body and only lived 7 yrs. Not meaning to stray too far but for the entertainment value, I have a friend who is a staunch 7th Day Adventist. He has followed the dietary (vegetarian) guidelines for about 40 years. On day, I talked the group into dining at Canters Delicatessen on Fairfax in West Hollywood. Without thinking, I ordered up grilled liver and onions. This ignited a stern lecture about eating the cow's main filtering and chemistry organ and how disgusting he found all that. Didn't phase me but for ordering some horseradish to go with the liver. Caught hell from the wife when we got home. LOL > Not meaning to stray too far but for the entertainment value, I have a > friend who is a staunch 7th Day Adventist. He has followed the dietary [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > horseradish to go with the liver. Caught hell from the wife when we got > home. LOL Oh hell! Please don't tell me you was buying this guys dinner. When your in Rome you do as the Romans, I accomodate certain folk at times, but I am a carnivore. grrrrr If someone wanted to talk like they had some sense and wanted to share thier views, Im down with that, but a lecture might end up in a food fight; or make me order the ol' 49'er if you finish the whole thing it's free. > > Not meaning to stray too far but for the entertainment value, I have a > > friend who is a staunch 7th Day Adventist. He has followed the dietary [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > a lecture might end up in a food fight; or make me order the ol' 49'er > if you finish the whole thing it's free. Oh. I'm not familiar enough with cat breeds to recognize them. If it was a car or pickup I would know what it is, studebakers, javelins, ramblers, jags, etc. >> Not meaning to stray too far but for the entertainment value, I have >> a friend who is a staunch 7th Day Adventist. He has followed the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > a lecture might end up in a food fight; or make me order the ol' 49'er > if you finish the whole thing it's free. When you look at it, I started it so .... I can't be too hard on him. BTW, if you're ever through Amarillo, TX, stop in at the Big Texan for a FREE 72 oz steak and all the fixin's *if*... you can eat it all in ONE HOUR. http://www.bigtexan.com/72oz.html >Do you think there is some Bengal or other hybrid in this cat? The shower >experience this morning was a first for any cat I've ever owned to say >nothing of the leap from the edge of the tub to the window above the shower >while I had my back turned! Well, from his pictures, there's not a jot of Bengal type (the conformation of a breed is called 'type') in him. He's got large triangular ears (Bengals should have small, rounded ears), his stop does not have the gentle curve a Bengal would, no puffy whisker pads, his nose leather is neither broad nor circled with black. His topline is wrong (Bengals have a straight topline). Coat-wise, he's a classic tabby not a marble (that lovely big bullseye on his sides says 'no horizontal influence), and his tummy probably isn't spotted. You also see black or chocolate brown marks on Bengals instead of orange -- high contrast with the ground colour is crucial. So in short, he's not a Bengal or a Bengal mix. But he sounds like a lovely cat, and sounds like he's got a lot of the personality you like in Bengals. Have fun with him! Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid >> Do you think there is some Bengal or other hybrid in this cat? The >> shower experience this morning was a first for any cat I've ever [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Orchid Thank you. The shower experience yesterday and this morning's witness of a 6' vertical leap from the floor through an open overhead closet door has me wondering who/what contributed the genetic springs he's got for hind legs. "Cat" is going in for his "free" end to end exam today. He started sneezing occasionally yesterday afternoon and continues to do so this morning. Nothing real frequent but there is a tiny bit of nasal discharge. When this feller sneezes in your direction, there's a LOT air volume. From two feet away you can feel the shock wave. > So in short, he's not a Bengal or a Bengal mix. But he sounds > like a lovely cat, and sounds like he's got a lot of the personality > you like in Bengals. Have fun with him! Spiritual kin to the Bengals, without the genes? ;-) Priscilla Signature"Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the hell happened." -- Cora Harvey Armstrong >> So in short, he's not a Bengal or a Bengal mix. But he sounds >> like a lovely cat, and sounds like he's got a lot of the personality >> you like in Bengals. Have fun with him! > >Spiritual kin to the Bengals, without the genes? ;-) I've never said that Bengals are the only cats that have those temperament traits. *grin* They're just the only ones who usually have _all_ of them! :D Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid : >> So in short, he's not a Bengal or a Bengal mix. But he sounds : >> like a lovely cat, and sounds like he's got a lot of the personality : >> you like in Bengals. Have fun with him! : > : >Spiritual kin to the Bengals, without the genes? ;-) : I've never said that Bengals are the only cats that have those : temperament traits. *grin* They're just the only ones who usually : have _all_ of them! :D I used to have a cat that was part simese<SP?> and part calico. She had the nasty and tempermental traits of both. She was both mean, nasty and a sweety all at the same time!! SignatureKeep working millions on welfare depend on you ------------------- fwp@deepthought.com >>> Ok ... I found a cat. > Now the ride home from the pound is a whole >>> 'nuther >story. LOL [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >a bit. HOW WEIRD ... so soon. This cat is full of surprises and we've had >him only 15 hrs This post put a big smile on my face at work today, just as I was getting ready to rip some management type a new one. I think we're in for some great posts -- you're owned, pal! eq > >>> Ok ... I found a cat. > Now the ride home from the pound is a whole > >>> 'nuther >story. LOL [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > eq He really does sound like a cool cat, and he really does sound Bengalish. :) I want a big orange boy cat one day. > This post put a big smile on my face at work today, just as I was > getting ready to rip some management type a new one. I think we're in > for some great posts -- you're owned, pal! > > eq Friday, June 3, 2005 I called the OC Animal Shelter to see about taking "Conan" in for his first/free exam. He's been sneezing a bit. The paperwork and the person I talked to on the phone at the shelter just said bring him down ... this is on a first come first serve basis. Conan knew something was up and evaded capture for a bit. Getting him into the cardboard cat carrier was a job. But I got him and carried out to the Datsun. Off we went ... Conan already protesting loudly and thrashing about. About a mile down the road, he busted out of the carrier, ripping the locking tabs off in the process. Now he's loose in the truck cab and storming around but at least he's less unhappy. But now he's panting. This gave me an opportunity though, to examine his gums and teeth. No obvious peridontal conditions and all the teeth are clean. Upon arrival at the shelter, I realize now that the carrier is useless. I'm going to have to leave Conan in the truck to get another carrier box. In my haste to get out of the Datsun without Conan escaping, I left my keys in the ignition; realizing this just as I slammed shut the door. DAMN. But the windows are rolled down about 2 inches so ... I walked in the shelter office. I was to discover they don't do the first Office Visit there, rather they reimburse your choice of private veterinarian for the first checkup but you pay for anything additional (shots, wipes, etc). So here I made an unnecessary trip, the cat's teed'd off, the cat carrier is ruined, I'm locked out of my truck, I left home without the folder with all the adoption papers, and I need to schedule an Office Visit with my vet. Argh. I asked the office receptionist for a coat hanger. She raided a locker for one. I went back out to the Datsun and easily unlocked the door. Conan backed away from the door just long enough for me to get inside the cab. I called my vet and set up an appointment. The lady answering the phone said Conan likely had the typical upper respiratory infection commonly caught by nearly all shelter animals. Antibiotics will take care of it. Back home I go. For a moment I entertained stopping at a drive-thru for lunch. Then Conan yelled. Nevermind lunch, got to get this cat back home first. Conan knows when he's near home. The yowling and pacing about stopped as I pulled up the driveway. He simmered down instantly. Stopped panting too. Well, tomorrow morning at 8:00 AM, Conan has an appointment with the vet. I'm going to be organized and relaxed this time. Signature- Philip >> This post put a big smile on my face at work today, just as I was >> getting ready to rip some management type a new one. I think we're in [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > panting too. Well, tomorrow morning at 8:00 AM, Conan has an appointment > with the vet. I'm going to be organized and relaxed this time. Go buy a real cat carrier tonight :) > Friday, June 3, 2005 > > I called the OC Animal Shelter to see about taking "Conan" in > for his first/free exam. Cool name! O'Brian or The Barbarian? He's been sneezing a bit. The > paperwork and the person I talked to on the phone at the shelter > just said bring him down ... this is on a first come first serve > basis. > > Conan knew something was up and evaded capture for a bit. Funny how they know this. I had to take my former feral for her "yearly" last night. She's losing that suspisious edge after 2 years now, but she still almost eluded me when it was time to go. > Getting him into the cardboard cat carrier was a job. But I got > him and carried out to the Datsun. Off we went ... Conan [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > windows are rolled down about 2 inches so ... I walked in the > shelter office. That sucks! I had a chuckle over "Datsun" though. I'd bet there are many who don't remember that name. Like Esso. lol > I was to discover they don't do the first Office Visit there, > rather they reimburse your choice of private veterinarian for > the first checkup but you pay for anything additional (shots, > wipes, etc). Wipes? > So here I made an unnecessary trip, the cat's teed'd off, the > cat carrier is ruined, I'm locked out of my truck, I left home [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > respiratory infection commonly caught by nearly all shelter > animals. Antibiotics will take care of it. They're right - it can also be stress-induced. He looks strong enough to be able to fight it off. Poor baby. > Back home I go. For a moment I entertained stopping at a > drive-thru for lunch. Then Conan yelled. Nevermind lunch, got [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Well, tomorrow morning at 8:00 AM, Conan has an appointment with > the vet. I'm going to be organized and relaxed this time. Good luck tomorrow and yes, relax. And I hope you got that carrier! SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields >> Friday, June 3, 2005 >> >> I called the OC Animal Shelter to see about taking "Conan" in >> for his first/free exam. > > Cool name! O'Brian or The Barbarian? "Conan" is the Irish name for "little red warrior." He responds with a little tail lashing with names starting in a hard "C" or "K" sound. snip >> Upon arrival at the shelter, I realize now that the carrier is >> useless. I'm going to have to leave Conan in the truck to get [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > That sucks! I had a chuckle over "Datsun" though. I'd bet there are > many who don't remember that name. Like Esso. lol It's an '82 pickup that was a gift ... *if* I could get it running again. It's also a diesel which were few and far between even when new. Perfect for local runs to the dump, dense parking lots, and doing dirty work. LOL >> I was to discover they don't do the first Office Visit there, >> rather they reimburse your choice of private veterinarian for >> the first checkup but you pay for anything additional (shots, >> wipes, etc). >> > Wipes? Yeah you get a small container of scented alcohol wipes for your hands for the asking. Diseases in a shelter are easily transmitted between animals thru hand contact. > Good luck tomorrow and yes, relax. And I hope you got that carrier! Thank you. Now off to Petco for portable industrial grade confinement. > > This post put a big smile on my face at work today, just as I was > > getting ready to rip some management type a new one. I think we're in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I called the OC Animal Shelter to see about taking "Conan" in for his > first/free exam. Conan is a great name for this cat!!! >> > This post put a big smile on my face at work today, just as I was >> > getting ready to rip some management type a new one. I think we're in [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Conan is a great name for this cat!!! I agree -- it fits him well. I'd say Philip is following The Plan quite well :-) eq > >> > This post put a big smile on my face at work today, just as I was > >> > getting ready to rip some management type a new one. I think we're in [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I agree -- it fits him well. I'd say Philip is following The Plan quite > well :-) I want one of those big bad orange boys for my very own!!!! > I want one of those big bad orange boys for my very own!!!! Like on the tv commercials. When do you think you will get one? Where would you go to find one of these? They come x-tra large don't they. >>> > This post put a big smile on my face at work today, just as I was >>> > getting ready to rip some management type a new one. I think we're in [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > eq In the Irish book of baby names, Conan means "Little Red Warrior." "The Plan?" Pray tell.... vat es der Plan? "Conan" trusted me enough today to stuff two butter covered appetite improver pills in his mouth. I'm pretty good at administering oral meds ... to animals too. Pry open, pop pill WAY in the back, close cat's mouth and hold it closed until swallowed. Waiting for meaningful effect. > "Conan" trusted me enough today to stuff two butter covered appetite > improver pills in his mouth. I'm pretty good at administering oral meds ... > to animals too. Pry open, pop pill WAY in the back, close cat's mouth and > hold it closed until swallowed. Waiting for meaningful effect. Holding thier nose will also force them to swallow, I mean if it came down to it you know. > > "Conan" trusted me enough today to stuff two butter covered appetite > > improver pills in his mouth. I'm pretty good at administering oral meds ... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Holding thier nose will also force them to swallow, I mean if it came > down to it you know. This might be second post. I got this bass akwards! you hold thier nose to get the mouth to open. then stroke the neck to get them to swallow but Im sure there are more wittiful ways to go about this >> "Conan" trusted me enough today to stuff two butter covered appetite >> improver pills in his mouth. I'm pretty good at administering oral meds [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Holding thier nose will also force them to swallow, I mean if it came > down to it you know. Poor Conan. Everytime he sneezes, spittle exits nose and sometimes some slobber out his mouth. It's sad right now. It's like a summer cold without the congestion. Will get that lysine stuff from a health food store Sunday morning. When one of our kittens had a URI, she also slobbered. We found out that they can develop sores (like herpes sores) down their throat. She was pretty miserable and was even having trouble drinking. What helped for her was pain medication. Once she had that she ate and drank. She even played, but I was not quite sure whether she was happy that she felt better or just a little bit high. :) You might talk to your vet about pain meds if he's still drooling in the next day or so. Rhonda > Poor Conan. Everytime he sneezes, spittle exits nose and sometimes some > slobber out his mouth. It's sad right now. It's like a summer cold without > the congestion. Will get that lysine stuff from a health food store Sunday > morning. While I was standing there, she (the vet) jacked open Conan's mouth real wide and peered inside. She said all looked well but for a small tartar spot on one tooth. She looked inside his cheeks too. She did prescribe an appetite stimulant to be administered twice daily. So far, the pills have not had the desired effect ... save for the glob of butter I use to encapsulate them. I overheated a little glob of ProPlan food in the microwave. The wife came out and unwittingly remarked "Hmmm... whatever you're cooking smells good!" Yes, I'm the one who does any complex cooking these days. > When one of our kittens had a URI, she also slobbered. We found out that > they can develop sores (like herpes sores) down their throat. She was [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> without the congestion. Will get that lysine stuff from a health food >> store Sunday morning. I don't know if the vet could have seen the sores, if she does have them. They told us they can form down in the throat. I hope your kitty is eating soon. Have you tried other stinky foods? We went and got very fishy wet food, like sardine-flavored, tuna, etc. We also had A/D, the prescription food for her. Sometimes meat baby food will work, you have to make sure there are no onions on the ingredients. Good luck, Rhonda > While I was standing there, she (the vet) jacked open Conan's mouth real > wide and peered inside. She said all looked well but for a small tartar spot [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>>without the congestion. Will get that lysine stuff from a health food >>>store Sunday morning. Good news. Wife stood her ground insisting if I wanted to eat tonight, that I had to do the grocery run. Ok fine. I like most things that can be stir fried. LOL While shopping, your mention of "fishy" things surfaced. Bought a can of Starkist chunky light tuna. Yeah I know about the warnings of a steady diet of people grade "Caught Wild", "Dolphin Free" tuna. Is there dolphin enriched tuna? Back home, I wiped a little tuna water on his snoot. That snapped him out of it! He sneezed a couple of times (spit and snot flying) and lead me out to the kitchen. There, he polished off half the can in one sitting and then the rest about 30 minutes later! Whoopee! He's another fish cat. Now I need to find a tuna blend for cats that he'll like. But at least now he's eating again. > I don't know if the vet could have seen the sores, if she does have > them. They told us they can form down in the throat. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >>>> like a summer cold without the congestion. Will get that lysine >>>> stuff from a health food store Sunday morning. > Good news. Wife stood her ground insisting if I wanted to eat tonight, that > I had to do the grocery run. Ok fine. I like most things that can be stir [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > need to find a tuna blend for cats that he'll like. But at least now he's > eating again. It's good that he's eating, but an all-tuna (or all-fish of any kind) diet is extremely bad for cats. It depletes them of a vital nutrient (I believe it's taurine) and can cause illness. Priscilla Signature"Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the hell happened." -- Cora Harvey Armstrong >> Good news. Wife stood her ground insisting if I wanted to eat tonight, >> that [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Priscilla I am aware. Do you have a preferred tuna catfood? >Whoopee! He's another fish cat. Now I >need to find a tuna blend for cats that he'll >like. It's not a good idea to feed a fish based diet, especially to male cats. Fish and seafood are high in magnesium and can put your cat at risk for urinary crystals/stones. As an occasional thing it should be ok, but not as the main diet: http://www.felinefuture.com/nutrition/fish.php Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray >>Whoopee! He's another fish cat. Now I >>need to find a tuna blend for cats that he'll [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Megan Ummmmm.... did I fail to acknowledge a strictly tuna based diet is not desirable? I failed not. This offering to Conan was to prime the pump. Starkist and cyproheptadine (appetite stimulant) got him eating again. Fish is to his liking so the next *cat* *food* he gets will be a tuna flavor. Come on Megan .... cut me a little slack. ;^) >Ummmmm.... did I fail to acknowledge a >strictly tuna based diet is not desirable? I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >flavor. Come on Megan .... cut me a little >slack. ;^) No can do. Did you read the article I provided for you? Based on your response it seems you didn't. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > >Ummmmm.... did I fail to acknowledge a >>strictly tuna based diet is not desirable? I [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Megan Megan: Today, to Rhonda I wrote & posted: -Good news. Wife stood her ground insisting if I wanted to eat tonight, that -I had to do the grocery run. Ok fine. I like most things that can be stir -fried. LOL While shopping, your mention of "fishy" things surfaced. -Bought a can of Starkist chunky light tuna. Yeah I know about the warnings -of a steady diet of people grade "Caught Wild", "Dolphin Free" tuna. Is -there dolphin enriched tuna? - -Back home, I wiped a little tuna water on his snoot. That snapped him out -of it! He sneezed a couple of times (spit and snot flying) and lead me out -to the kitchen. There, he polished off half the can in one sitting and then -the rest about 30 minutes later! Whoopee! He's another fish cat. Now I -need to find a tuna blend for cats that he'll like. But at least now he's -eating again. Looks like I alluded *twice* to knowledge of people tuna and kitties. :^) >Looks like I alluded *twice* to knowledge >of people tuna and kitties. :^) And? I didn't comment on "people tuna" and it was clear to seemingly everyone but you. You want to feed your cat a fish based diet and I have provided you with an article that states why this is a bad idea. I also spoke of the high magnesium content of fish and seafood which can predispose a cat to crystals and stones. You, however, seem to prefer to stick to uneducated habits, wallow in ignorance and throw away the opportunity to actually learn something that will benefit your cat's health. I will not be looking forward to your future posts detailing your cat's trip to the emergency vet because it has a urinary blockage, complaints about vet bills, etc. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray >>Looks like I alluded *twice* to knowledge >>of people tuna and kitties. :^) [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Megan There won't be any vet bills of the sort you are passively hoping will occur to vindicate yourself. Good Lord, woman! I have made it clear the people grade tuna is the only food Conan will eat at this time. But you extrapolate this current and transient state into a life long drama. Please Megan ... drink more DECAFF. >I have made it clear the people grade >tuna is the only food Conan will eat at this >time. And, again, I made it clear that that is not what I'm addressing. You also made it clear you plan on feeding him a diet of fish cat food as a staple diet. That's what I'm talking about. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray >>I have made it clear the people grade >>tuna is the only food Conan will eat at this [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Megan NEVER said verbatim nor implied such. You are making this up, Megan. If you are so compelled, please copy/paste the post where such was said by me. Thank you. Please Megan ... drink more DECAFF >NEVER said verbatim nor implied such. Yes, you did. You started with this: "Fish is to his liking so the next *cat* *food* he gets will be a tuna flavor." You followed that up with a defense of feeding an all fish diet and used feral cats eating such a diet as an example (albeit a poor one.) The fact that several other posters in this thread also warned you against feeding a cat a fish based food as a staple diet is further proof that you did indeed imply that that was your intent. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray >>NEVER said verbatim nor implied such. > > Yes, you did. You started with this: > > "Fish is to his liking so the next *cat* *food* he gets will be a tuna > flavor." There you have it. "The next cat food will be tuna FLAVOR." This in no way states or implies *permanence* beyond the current can or Conan's appeptite for raw tuna while he is ill. > You followed that up with a defense of feeding an all fish diet and used > feral cats eating such a diet as an example (albeit a poor one.) snip >Megan Never said or implied that either. I did ask the reader to identify the most probable suppliment to those sea side ferals' diet of mice .... which would be fish. RAW FISH parts scavenged from trash cans and unsold "cleaned" fish left out for them by the fish markets. And those ferals lived quite well on whatever they chose to consume which included .... raw fish. Conan's force feeding drama continues ... First off, let me say my wife is getting a little puzzled about all this attention given to the new cat. Retirement looks for projects to spend time on, really. Yesterday, I acted on a suggestion made by a regular to this forum, to start force feeding (that's such a provocative term) Conan with KMR kitten formula with a syringe. This was a bit messy at first because I had not worked out the sequence of maneuvers to get the stuff IN Conan. Each cat is a bit different. I got about 30-40 ccs of formula into him that evening. This morning, I got a call from my vet's office wanting a progress report. "Conan slept all day yesterday and last night." "Very lethargic but for his exposure to humidity during my morning shower." "I just got his medicines syringed to him and about 50-60cc of KMR and about 30cc of water chaser." "Who suggested KMR?" "Was my idea." "KMR is not sufficient nor balanced for an adult cat. Please visit the office and purchase AD formula." (Mfgr Hills, each 5.5oz can costs only $1.50). "Conan needs to get one can per day, minimum." Well, ok. Back to force feeding "technique." On top of the washing machine, Conan's head alongside my chest, thumb & index finger over bridge of Conan's nose, gently squeeze open his mouth, pull his head up and back, start squirting formula in mouth while (here's the trick) simultaneously repositioning hand to underneath his throat. He keeps his own mouth open and swallowing so long as formula is being squirted in at the rate he is swallowing. Keep head alongside my chest. I can get the full 20cc syringe load into him in a few seconds. (WHEW) 80cc for lunch! > Conan's force feeding drama continues ... > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > full 20cc syringe load into him in a few seconds. (WHEW) 80cc > for lunch! It sounds like you have a conscientious vet who is concerned. FTR, I don't think I saw any suggestions to give him straight KMR, but to mix it with food like you were doing with the milk. At any rate, it just shows that you can't take Usenet suggestions at either face value or interpretted, and to run it by the vet. I'm sorry if that was my suggestion because I know I said KMR. Also, WRT your other reply to my comment about not getting another cat, I realize you're doing a lot for Conan and its probably stress talking (or not; can't tell any more!) so I guess I have to apologize for that comment too. It's a good sign that he's keeping the food down that you "hand feed" him. That's what I like to call "force feeding". Sounds a little gentler. I'll bet you'll be glad when the week is up. Hang in there. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields >> Conan's force feeding drama continues ... >> [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > value or interpretted, and to run it by the vet. I'm sorry if that > was my suggestion because I know I said KMR. I did not say "Well, Cheryl in the Cat Behavior Forum told me to do it!" It was afterall, my decision to ACT on the KMR idea which considering the alternative of no nutrition was still a good decision. :^) > Also, WRT your other reply to my comment about not getting another > cat, I realize you're doing a lot for Conan and its probably stress [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Hang in there. My stress shows up here when I inject a line of seemingly inappropriate levity into an otherwise somber, serious, heavy paragraph. Otherwise, watch for the lashing tail. ;^) Stress? Yes, a bit. I do need to see an improvement trend for this much attention ... for the sake of all concerned in this house. His sinuses are running while he sleeps. Today, Conan has sacked out in the crouched position with his nose just over the edge of a table. There is now a puddle of water on the floor below his nose. He will purr lightly but the bubbly liquid is nasal. There is a bit of difference between KMR and Hill's "A/D" formula. A/D has liver, chicken, fish oils, taurine, and a wider variety of minerals than KMR. > My stress shows up here when I inject a line of seemingly > inappropriate levity into an otherwise somber, serious, heavy [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > formula. A/D has liver, chicken, fish oils, taurine, and a > wider variety of minerals than KMR. Ok, new approach here (I'm really pulling for this cat!) Is the vet you're seeing still the one that offered the "end to end" examination within 72 hours of adoption? Have you been in touch with the rescue groups vet? The one that vaccinated him? Of course other than rabies, volunteers can do vaccinations themselves, so it might not have been done by a vet, but there had to be a shelter or clinic vet somewhere along the way that examined him before you adopted him. What I'd do if I were you is contact that vet, let them know just how serious this is (and it is serious!). I'm very afraid with all the force feeding that he may develop an aversion to food and make it that much harder to eat something on his own even if he's feeling better. Let them know that you've read about hepatic lipidosis and that sometimes the only thing that keeps them nourished until they want to eat is a feeding (PEG) tube. I know this sounds like more of a pain in the a.s than you bargained for, but to give you an example, my cat who is now deceased had to have a feeding tube when he developed hepatic lipidosis due to anorexia for whatever reason. I found these cat groups just barely before this happened because I had a cat with megacolon who had to be put down because he couldn't sh.t and the prognosis for recovery after surgery to remove most of his colon wasn't good, and I knew NOTHING about cats and their health issues because I'd never had a sick cat before. When my Shadow quit eating I didn't notice - for various reasons - and by the time I did notice, he had liver damage. He had that feeding tube for 2 months, though he finally ate on his own after 5 weeks. OK, this got more long-winded than I intended. Point is, SOMETHING made that cat not want to eat and the runny nose isn't helping. If he is going to recover, he has to eat, and it has to be enough to keep his body from trying to process body fat as food. Oh, and AD isn't meant for long-term use, either. But it is packed with calories and that means less has to be forced into him. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields >> My stress shows up here when I inject a line of seemingly >> inappropriate levity into an otherwise somber, serious, heavy [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >(5) Oh, and AD isn't meant for long-term use, either. But it is packed > with calories and that means less has to be forced into him. After swearing on the Bible to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, Philip under cross examination by attorney Cheryl stated the following: 1). The 72 hr free examination policy is from the shelter. This "first free office visit" is to be performed by a vet of the adopting party's choosing, provided the chosen vet is on the list of approved member vets. Conan is still with the chosen veterinary. 2). What rescue vet? Conan was brought in by Animal Control. My adoption was from the shelter direct, not a private adoption agency or organization. The County maintains a DVM on site who gives rubber stamps as to sterility and vaccinations. I do not know who ACTUALLY pumps the medicine into animals. The shelter is the source for ALL vaccinations and statements of known conditions revealed to me before adoption. 3). My attempt to get in touch with the shelter's DVM today was unsuccessful. Will try again tomorrow. 4). Let us NOT be guided by your fears, rather by knowledge that has appropriate application. 5). "Long term?" A week? A month? I have a line in the sand being next Wednesday. If Conan is still in his current state at that time, then I really need to let go. > (WHEW) 80cc for lunch! That's awesome! That cat is going to luuuv him some Philip. Megan wrote: > > It's not a good idea to feed a fish based diet, especially to male cats. > > Fish and seafood are high in magnesium and can put your cat at risk for [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Fish is to his liking so the next *cat* *food* he gets will be a tuna > flavor. Come on Megan .... cut me a little slack. ;^) Doesn't matter whether it's tuna cat food, or human grade tuna. It's still a fish-based diet, and isn't good for the urinary tract health. Sherry > Megan wrote: >> > It's not a good idea to feed a fish based diet, especially to male [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Sherry What do all those feral cats on the beaches from Los Angeles to San Diego eat besides mice? FISH. There used to be a colony of feral that scavenged up fish parts at Doryman's Warf ... for decades. They survived up to 7 years according to Animal Control. Obviously few were neutered so perhaps this is an opening argument against early neutering and urinary tract development. ;^) (preparing to duck incoming artillery) > > Megan wrote: > >> > It's not a good idea to feed a fish based diet, especially to male [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > this is an opening argument against early neutering and urinary tract > development. ;^) (preparing to duck incoming artillery) That's odd. There's also a colony of ferals living on the bay side of Galveston. They get all the fish they can eat from the guys cleaning fish for the deep-sea fishing tour boats. Those were the most horrible, sick-looking ferals I have ever seen. Sherry >>> Megan wrote: >>>>> It's not a good idea to feed a fish based diet, especially to male [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Sherry This is southern California. We don't allow ugly, sickly *looking* anything, especially at the beach. ;^) |
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