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Philip - 30 May 2005 05:48 GMT
Our New Children:  The Surrogate Role of Companion Animals in Women's Lives

by Wendy G. Turner

http://www.nova.edu/ssss/QR/QR6-1/turner.html
John Ross Mc Master - 30 May 2005 05:53 GMT
More hate from 1chip-state1@earthlink.net
IP # 64.203.38.114
Mary - 30 May 2005 06:05 GMT
> More hate from 1chip-state1@earthlink.net
> IP # 64.203.38.114

John, are you still reading this dickhead's posts? ;)
John Ross Mc Master - 30 May 2005 06:15 GMT
>> More hate from 1chip-state1@earthlink.net
>> IP # 64.203.38.114
>
>John, are you still reading this dickhead's posts? ;)

I've been in newsgroups for 10 years but this Los Angeles area pile of
sh.t got to me.
All I can say is,

1chip-state1@earthlink.net
IP # 64.203.38.114

OrgAbuseName:   ABUSE TEAM
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Also, he killed Rusty last month.
Candace - 30 May 2005 06:25 GMT
> Also, he killed Rusty last month.

Who is Rusty?  I haven't really been following his posts much.

Candace
Philip - 30 May 2005 06:56 GMT
>> Also, he killed Rusty last month.
>
> Who is Rusty?  I haven't really been following his posts much.
>
> Candace

I can't wait to read the next installment by JR.  Really!  :^)
John Ross Mc Master - 30 May 2005 15:18 GMT
>>> Also, he killed Rusty last month.
>>
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>
>I can't wait to read the next installment by JR.  Really!  :^)

1chip-state1@earthlink.net
IP # 64.203.38.114

OrgAbuseName:   ABUSE TEAM
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-404-815-0770
OrgAbuseEmail:  abuse@abuse.earthlink.net
Karen - 30 May 2005 15:20 GMT
>> Also, he killed Rusty last month.
>
> Who is Rusty?  I haven't really been following his posts much.
>
> Candace

Hmm. Boy, I guess it pays to skip posts. I have no idea. The article was
mildly interesting.
Philip - 30 May 2005 15:56 GMT
>>> Also, he killed Rusty last month.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Hmm. Boy, I guess it pays to skip posts. I have no idea. The article
> was mildly interesting.

Rusty was our pet indoor only tabby who died mid April due to a second heart
attack at age 14.  He had an enlarged heart condition that the vet believed
was a congenital abnormality.  If you're interested in what drew me to this
forum, please review the early Bengal cat posts from April for yourself.  I
do mention Rusty in a couple of those posts.

I doubt the resident bedwetter will take the time.
John Ross Mc Master - 30 May 2005 16:47 GMT
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Mary - 30 May 2005 18:36 GMT
> 1chip-state1@earthlink.net
> IP # 64.203.38.114
>
> OrgAbuseName:   ABUSE TEAM
> OrgAbusePhone:  +1-404-815-0770
> OrgAbuseEmail:  abuse@abuse.earthlink.net

John--Phillip is not violating his terms of service. a.sholes are allowed to
speak their minds freely in Usenet. Just laugh at the dickhead and go on
about your business. Let him get what sad satisfaction he can from those who
engage him, you know?
Mary - 30 May 2005 18:16 GMT
> > Also, he killed Rusty last month.
>
> Who is Rusty?  I haven't really been following his posts much.

If you've read one blowhard, you've read them all.
Mary - 30 May 2005 18:16 GMT
> >> More hate from 1chip-state1@earthlink.net
> >> IP # 64.203.38.114
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Also, he killed Rusty last month.

Rusty?? What did I miss?
Karen - 30 May 2005 15:19 GMT
> Our New Children:  The Surrogate Role of Companion Animals in Women's Lives
>
> by Wendy G. Turner
>
> http://www.nova.edu/ssss/QR/QR6-1/turner.html

Hmm. Mildly interesting. Not a very big field of study participants. I don't
think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that people view their pets
as companions and closer to children. I mean, look at all the products for
them! My living room definitely looks about as toy filled as someone with
kids. I think it's too bad they don't look more at men, who probably suffer
more with pet loss because it is somewhat socially acceptable for women to
grieve pet death and I sometimes wonder if men aren't at a disadvantage
there with people understanding how hard it is for them, since they are not
seen as the "care givers". And yet, online, I have noticed that sometimes
men seem at least if not more distraught. A support group is sure the key.
I'm very lucky because when Grant died not only my friends and my online
friends extremely supportive, but my co-workers absolutely treated me as
though I had lost a child and were completely sympathetic and helpful in
understanding my feelings and could tell when my grief was affecting me,
probably more so than I did.
Philip - 30 May 2005 15:56 GMT
>> Our New Children:  The Surrogate Role of Companion Animals in
>> Women's Lives
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> sympathetic and helpful in understanding my feelings and could tell
> when my grief was affecting me, probably more so than I did.

A pleasant middle of the road response. :^)  Couple of reactions:

1) Women without children followed by women whose children are up, out, and
on their own, especially if their husband has done likewise get the most
attached to pets.  Women are more wired to be caregivers than men. Must be a
breast thing.  ;^)

2) It is more of an eyebrow raiser in North America (can't speak to other
places) to witness men as caregivers let alone displaying grief.

3) When a woman is happily married and with children, pets are way down the
list of care priorities ... sort of an accessory.  Now, if this woman
associates with a lot of childless women (see item #1), then this
prioritization will probably seem foreign.
John Ross Mc Master - 30 May 2005 16:49 GMT
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Mary - 30 May 2005 18:37 GMT
> 1chip-state1@earthlink.net
> IP # 64.203.38.114
>
> OrgAbuseName:   ABUSE TEAM
> OrgAbusePhone:  +1-404-815-0770
> OrgAbuseEmail:  abuse@abuse.earthlink.net

Also if you keep posting the same message over
and over you could get into trouble with your own
ISP, so be careful. I want the good guys to win.
sriddles@aol.com - 30 May 2005 18:55 GMT
> >> Our New Children:  The Surrogate Role of Companion Animals in
> >> Women's Lives
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> associates with a lot of childless women (see item #1), then this
> prioritization will probably seem foreign.

There are men who become just as attached to pets and women, though. My
DH is the personificationo of Robert de Niro's character in "Meet the
Parents" re: his relationship with Jinxie. He doesn't give a damn who's
eyebrows are raised, though.
It's not that much of an eyebrow-raiser, though, for men to be
caregivers. Maybe it was in 1960, but not anymore. Witness the number
of male nurses, single dads, etc. etc.
Sherry

Sherry

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