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I posted a while back about my elderly constipated cat. I have added rice bran to his food, makes him go more, but still like pebbles, I now add 5 drops of liquid paraffin every evening to some tuna, but he still is very constipated, he has such trouble going, he often ends up being sick at the same time. Any more suggestions as to how to soften his stools? Cant find any canned pumpkin, am in UK. Thanks, Chris > I posted a while back about my elderly constipated cat. I have added > rice bran to his food, makes him go more, but still like pebbles, I now [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Chris Try adding mineral oil to his food. It's tasteless, so he shouldn't mind it in his tinned food. It will not only soften his stool, but should make elimination easier. Also encourage him to drink lots of water by having water bowls in all the areas he hangs out in (mine love their Drinkwell fountain and have been drinking a lot more water than they used to). Hugs, CatNipped > > I posted a while back about my elderly constipated cat. I have added > > rice bran to his food, makes him go more, but still like pebbles, I now [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > CatNipped It is NOT good to give mineral oil to an elderly cat as an intestinal lubricant. It used to be an old-fashioned remedy, but it's still bad for them. It's absorbed by the liver, and because it's a petroleum product, the liver has to work extra hard to process it. It will absorb all the fat-soluble vitamins in the body, leading to nutritional deficiencies. It remains in the body a long, long, time which affects the immune system also. Sherry > > > I posted a while back about my elderly constipated cat. I have added > > > rice bran to his food, makes him go more, but still like pebbles, I now [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Sherry It's what my vet told me to give my 15-year-old cat and it worked well - of course it wasn't an on-going treatment, but was just used for a day or two to get her over the constipation she had as the result of 3 surgeries in 3 weeks. > > > > I posted a while back about my elderly constipated cat. I have added > > > > rice bran to his food, makes him go more, but still like pebbles, I [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > to get her over the constipation she had as the result of 3 surgeries in 3 > weeks. The OP obviously has an ongoing problem. Sherry >>> I posted a while back about my elderly constipated cat. I have >>> added rice bran to his food, makes him go more, but still like [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Sherry How about cod liver oil? ;-) What a thread! "25 Ways to Give Hershey Squirts to Your Cat" LOL > I posted a while back about my elderly constipated cat. I have added > rice bran to his food, makes him go more, but still like pebbles, I now [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Chris I was told that cat Tuna is not best...(no real soluable fiber)...and as long as your willing to pay that price, go ahead and get a top shelf canned food or thereabouts. If you can find it, try squash in baby food form. I found this works as well as canned pumpkin. I mix about 1/3 of the baby food squash to 2/3 canned cat food. If the cat is too runny, decrease the squash... > I posted a while back about my elderly constipated cat. I have added > rice bran to his food, makes him go more, but still like pebbles, I now > add 5 drops of liquid paraffin every evening to some tuna, but he still > is very constipated, he has such trouble going, he often ends up being > sick at the same time. Any more suggestions as to how to soften his > stools? Cant find any canned pumpkin, am in UK. On Sat, 28 May 2005 02:41:13 -0700, chrisoakey wrote: > I posted a while back about my elderly constipated cat. I have added rice > bran to his food, makes him go more, but still like pebbles, I now add 5 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Chris Quit the rice -- it binds. You could ask your vet about lactulose. It is a prescription medicine for constipation. It should help. Sue >I posted a while back about my elderly constipated cat. I have added > rice bran to his food, makes him go more, but still like pebbles, I now [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Chris Thanks for the replies, the lactulose, I believe is similar to the liquid paraffin. I thought the rice bran was helpful, but it appears now its not, had better forget the mineral oil, as this is an ongoing problem, so I will go for the squash in the baby food if I can find some. Thanks Chris > Thanks for the replies, the lactulose, I believe is similar to the > liquid paraffin. I thought the rice bran was helpful, but it appears [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Chris Chris, it might help you understand feline constipation, the underlying causes, and the different avenues of treatment by googling "feline constipation" and doing a little research. I just checked some websites to double-check what I'd heard previously about mineral oil and found some really good info. One point of interest that I hadn't thought about is, ingestion of hair aggravates constipation, so they recommended removing as much loose hair as you can by brushing daily. Good luck. Sherry I will double check about the mineral oil, thanks Sherry. Chris > I posted a while back about my elderly constipated cat. I have added > rice bran to his food, makes him go more, but still like pebbles, I now [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Chris Hi Chris, Give your sweet 'baby' more oil(s) in his diet. Put some butter on your finger and let him lick it off, or mayo, or olive oil, whatever he prefers. My new boy, Dove, really looooves mayo! :-) Or, give him some fresh fried chicken breast (broken up into small bite sized pieces), and also if* he'll eat some of the skin, then let him go at it. Oils help to lubricate (his gut + intestins), and help with his digestion, and let 'things' to flow more smoothly. Do this at least once a day, because I'm betting that he probably needs more fat/oils in his diet. I did this for about the last 8 years of my now deceased elderly boy, Blue, and it really helped him with his constipation. And he lived to be almost 20. Good luck to you, and to your elderly 'baby', and please do keep us updated. ML > Or, give him some fresh fried chicken breast (broken up into small bite > sized pieces), and also if* he'll eat some of the skin, then let him go at > it. Oils help to lubricate (his gut + intestins), and help with his > digestion, and let 'things' to flow more smoothly. Do this at least once a > day, because I'm betting that he probably needs more fat/oils in his diet. I did this with Maynard, not for this reason, but because it was hard to keep weight on him. I figured the extra fat in his diet would help him keep weight on. I would buy a whole chicken and give him the leg and thigh meat with some of teh skin. And when I bought fried chicken, I'd cook a leg for him. He lived to pretty much 19, and he never had any problems with constipation. And he really did well, right up to the end. I have used vaseline when he had a hairball, as it does work well, but only rarely since it works by coating the stomach to get everything to pass, and thus severely reduces the absorbtion of nutrients. Not a problem with a healthy cat, but not so good for an elederly cat who has trouble keeping on weight. > I posted a while back about my elderly constipated cat. I have added > rice bran to his food, makes him go more, but still like pebbles, I now > add 5 drops of liquid paraffin every evening to some tuna, but he still > is very constipated, he has such trouble going, he often ends up being > sick at the same time. Any more suggestions as to how to soften his > stools? Cant find any canned pumpkin, am in UK. What are you feeding him? Hopefully we food only, right? Do you have bowls of water all around, or just one? It s sounds like he needs to drink more water, too. Someone here recommended that I place several bowls around the house because it would make my girls drink more, and it has. They also drink more when I give them filtered water, the kind that comes out of the front of the fridge, or bottled distilled. Water downstairs and upstairs. It is filtered and from the fridge. He eats renal support pouch wet food each evening with bits of fresh chicken mixed in, plus half small tin tuna with 5 drops liquid paraffin and then another plate with small amount of wet cat food he likes. I dont think the renal support (which is the main part of his diet because of kidney problems) has much fibre in it at all. Have you any idea of a high fibre wet cat food, I could put in a dish at the side for him to eat as well? Thanks Chris > Water downstairs and upstairs. It is filtered and from the fridge. He > eats renal support pouch wet food each evening with bits of fresh [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > idea of a high fibre wet cat food, I could put in a dish at the side > for him to eat as well? Chris, I think Innovo and Sherry are onto something with their suggestions. I think pumpkin is the best idea for adding fiber, but I also think that adding some oil such as butter, etc. might help. Sherry's idea about brushing and reading up on what causes constipation in cats was a good one. I found this site, and it says that fiber may help but it may not. It is vaque about what kinds of laxatives to use. Have you asked your vet? Anyway, here is the site: http://www.bestfriends.org/members/health/catconstip.htm Please keep us posted. I am sure this is a problem many here have or will have as their cats age. > > Water downstairs and upstairs. It is filtered and from the fridge. He > > eats renal support pouch wet food each evening with bits of fresh [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > http://www.bestfriends.org/members/health/catconstip.htm Good one. Here is another one that I liked as far as just general information about feline constipation: http://www.petcaretips.net/constipation_cats.html I keep reading over and over the pumpkin suggestion, though. The OP says he can't find pumpkin where he lives. Is pumpkin mostly a merkin thing? Sherry > Good one. Here is another one that I liked as far as just general > information about feline constipation: > http://www.petcaretips.net/constipation_cats.html > I keep reading over and over the pumpkin suggestion, though. The OP > says he can't find pumpkin where he lives. Is pumpkin mostly a merkin > thing? I don't think so. I know they grow pumpkins in the UK now. > I posted a while back about my elderly constipated cat. I have added > rice bran to his food, makes him go more, but still like pebbles, I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Chris Considering there is no shortagle of water for the cat, might you alter the source of water? You tap water may be overly chlorinated (or chlorimined) which does affect some people similarly. Milk will often bring on loose stool in an adult cat so you might try him on some milk if he will drink it. > Considering there is no shortagle of water for the cat, might you alter the > source of water? You tap water may be overly chlorinated (or chlorimined) > which does affect some people similarly. Milk will often bring on loose > stool in an adult cat so you might try him on some milk if he will drink it. You might try filtered or bottled water. Several years ago, all 3 of our dogs suddenly got sick. There was a problem with the water which we hadn't noticed because the fridge has a water dispensor that filters it. We bought a filter pitcher, and have been using that since. I don't have a sink down in the basement, so I just use bottled water down there. It's not that spendy, and I know I won't drink tap water (tastes weird), so why should they? The water I give him comes out of a filter jug from the fridge. I cant get him to drink milk any more as he hasnt had it since I found out it gave them diariaah as kittens. Thanks for the suggestions anyway. Hi have you trird metamucil unflavored sugar free, you just mix some with tin food Linda No I havent tried this, where can I get it? > No I havent tried this, where can I get it? Chris, I can't tell who you are replying to. Replying to the one above, Linda, wanted to know where I can get the metamucil. I often dont get things in the right place since the google changed. > Replying to the one above, Linda, wanted to know where I can get the > metamucil. I often dont get things in the right place since the google > changed. Well I like your posts, so keep on posting I will figure it out. You could use "Control X" and "Control V" better known as "Cut and paste," or the mouse menu commands that mean the same. (Edit->cut; Edit->paste, after highlighting the text to which you are replying.) > > Replying to the one above, Linda, wanted to know where I can get the > > metamucil. I often dont get things in the right place since the google [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > (Edit->cut; Edit->paste, after highlighting the text to which you are > replying.) You can reply that way, but you don't get quote marks. The OP can also, on the post he's replying to, click on "show options", then click on "reply.". All the text of that post is automatically quoted, but you can still cut out the irrelevent parts if the post gets too honking long. Sherry > > > Replying to the one above, Linda, wanted to know where I can get the > > > metamucil. I often dont get things in the right place since the google [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > quoted, but you can still cut out the irrelevent parts if the post gets > too honking long. So, glasshoppah, you are mastering the Way of the Google? :) > > > > Replying to the one above, Linda, wanted to know where I can get the > > > > metamucil. I often dont get things in the right place since the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > So, glasshoppah, you are mastering the Way of the Google? :) It isn't nice to make fun of the technically-challenged. Besides, you might give me the big head, then I might jump into AOL Message Boards. Oooooo that's running with the big dogs, let me tell you. I'm not sure I could complete with the cerebral level of those posters. Sherry > > > > > Replying to the one above, Linda, wanted to know where I can get the > > > > > metamucil. I often dont get things in the right place since the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > posters. > Sherry Hee. Hey, think about Teranews. $3.95 one-time fee. Or, if you want, I can hook you up with a free news server. If you use Outlook Express it is a snap. Let me know and I will email you directions. >you might give me the big head, then I might jump into AOL > Message Boards. Oooooo that's running with the big dogs, let me tell > you. I'm not sure I could complete with the cerebral level of those > posters. > Sherry Maybe we should set a time and all show up in the same aol room and give'm a thrashing they won't soon forget; like piranha move from room to room and skeletonize the whole lot of them. We'd need a name for such a gang; it's bound to make it's way to CNN headlines. > >you might give me the big head, then I might jump into AOL > > Message Boards. Oooooo that's running with the big dogs, let me tell [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > We'd need a name for such a gang; it's bound to make it's way to CNN > headlines. People who use AOL have enough problems! > > > Replying to the one above, Linda, wanted to know where I can get the > > > metamucil. I often dont get things in the right place since the google [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Sherry OK lets try this, and see if its in the right place. Obviously not! Think I had better stick to answering in the reply box! > > > > Replying to the one above, Linda, wanted to know where I can get the > > > > metamucil. I often dont get things in the right place since the google [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > OK lets try this, and see if its in the right place. Perfect!! |
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