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I have to decide to euthanize my cat

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kspitfire - 17 Sep 2003 19:42 GMT
I just got back from my vet a few hours ago who determined that my cat
has a large abdominal tumor, says it's definitely advanced and
combined with other symptoms (loss of appetite - I could only get her
to eat about a tablespoon of wet food this morning - fever and
listlessness) is recommending I have her euthanized.  She's a
holistic/homeopathic vet whom I trust, even made an appointment for me
to take her in to a regular veterinary hospital to have some x-rays
done to confirm her diagnosis.  I decided to cancel the x-ray
appointment for now because my cat didn't do well on the car ride
home, pooped in her carrying case and then threw up the little bit of
tuna I was able to feed her when we got home.

I'm hesitant for a few reasons - about 7 years ago my now 16 year old
cat was diagnosed with a peritoneal pericesdial diaphragmatic hernia -
a ripped diaphragm which has allowed some of her lower internal organs
to shift into the upper cavity.  Everything had solidified and was ok
by the time the vet she had then discovered it, but it was originally
diagnosed as a tumor mass around her heart.  She turned out to be fine
and was able to live with it without any problems, and my current vet
knew about it and had seen her before these recent developments.  The
vet now is assuring me that my cat is very ill and dying and that I
should have her euthanized, I'm inclined to agree with her except that
my cat's symptoms at home aren't very severe.  She has lost weight and
isn't interested much in playing but is still affectionate and doesn't
seem to be in much pain.  Her decrease in appetite started about a
week and a half ago.

I'm not sure exactly what I want out of posting here - I don't want to
have her undergo treatment for the tumor, she's lived a long and
healthy life despite what I call her "scrambled egg" condition.  She's
also not able to have anethesia due to it - that's how it was
originally discovered, she was given some in order to treat an abcess
but had a severe, painful reaction and almost stopped breathing.  I
have a message in to my vet now about that, I'm not sure how that
would effect being able to have her put to sleep... I guess if anyone
has had a cat with this rare condition could offer advice it would be
appreciated.

To top it all off it's coming up on the anniversary of my mother's
death just a few years ago.  I helped her go through severe treatments
for two types of cancer and in the end had to decide to take her off
of life support.  If we'd known ahead of time how bad off she was I
probably wouldn't have let the doctors run as many tests and wait as
long as we did to let her die.  It's a big part of the reason why I
got into holistic medicine and had been taking my cat to an holistic
vet, I really value quality of life over extending it at any cost.  I
don't want this to color my decision for my cat though, and of course
there's also cost issues... I think when I end up figuring this out
I'm going to need the money to get into therapy!
Charles M - 17 Sep 2003 20:15 GMT
<snip>
> my cat's symptoms at home aren't very severe.  She has lost weight and
> isn't interested much in playing but is still affectionate and doesn't
> seem to be in much pain.  Her decrease in appetite started about a
> week and a half ago.

I'ld let her go on then. Actually, I'm a bit bothered by the number of posts
lately where euthanizing seems to be the very first thing suggested. If nothing
else, I'ld get her thoroughly checked out before proceeding, get an opinion
by another vet, etc.

CMM
PawsForThought - 17 Sep 2003 23:21 GMT
>From: kspitfire@cheerful.com  (kspitfire)

>. I think when I end up figuring this out
>I'm going to need the money to get into therapy!

Awww, I'm so sorry for what you're going through.  It does sound like a hard
decision definitely.  If it were my cat and she was still acting her normal
self, I wouldn't euthanize.  But if she were in pain or suffering, I would.
Also, I would get a second opinion before euthanizing.  
Best of luck to you,

Lauren
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-L. - 18 Sep 2003 01:19 GMT
<snip sad story>

>I really value quality of life over extending it at any cost.

I totally agree.

> I
> don't want this to color my decision for my cat though, and of course
> there's also cost issues... I think when I end up figuring this out
> I'm going to need the money to get into therapy!

I'm so sorry about your kitty's tumor, and hope you can find some
peace and healing in the near future.  I think you are making the
right decision, and I would do the same in your shoes.

As for the loss of your Mom - I also lost my Mom two years ago around
this time (9-11-01), so I can relate to the bad timing issue (my kitty
is sick as well).  Despite how much you don't want it to, it does
color everything you do.  I hope there are brighter days ahead for
you.

Take care,
-L.
Mary - 18 Sep 2003 03:38 GMT
>I guess if anyone
>has had a cat with this rare condition could offer advice it would be
>appreciated.

My cat had a cancerous stoumach tumor. I took him to the vet and they said he
just had a tummy ache. Next day still vomiting, won't eat, just sitting curled
up. I took him back. They said it's still nothing. That night he collapsed. I
rushed him to the vet. The night shift vet said it was stoumach cancer. We'd
have to wait til morning for the ultrasound. If it was cancer, they suggested
euthanasia as the mass was large and his blood counts were off and he was no
spring chicken anymore. Next morning it was cancer. We agreed to euthanize. We
held him and told him how much we loved him and he left this world purring.

Had I known earlier that it was cancer and he had no hope, I would have called
the vet to my home to euthanize, probably would have done it two days earlier
before he was really in pain. Here's his last story right from this newsgroup
http://www.mary.cc/boots/stories/7.htm
Luvskats00 - 18 Sep 2003 08:30 GMT
kspitfire@cheerful.com writes

>I just got back from my vet a few >hours ago who...is recommending >I have her
euthanized.

I always suggest that a second vet confirms what the first vet suggests, in
cases like this. It's always so hard when we're faced with losing our beloved
friends...and it's even more difficult when we go through other personal
tragedies at the same time. Good luck to you.
Barb 1 - 18 Sep 2003 15:51 GMT
You know what you are asking for, here.  Permission to go for a second
opinion.  You need to do this.   If you don't you will always wonder what
might have been.  You don't have to do drastic treatments if they are
mentioned.  You will be the one to make that decision.  If your cat is
comfortable right now and palliative treatment can be provided for a time or
just some kind of support that might be the way to go.

Let us know,
Barb
I can only please one person a day.
Today is not your day.
Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
kspitfire - 18 Sep 2003 17:42 GMT
Thanks for everyone's support - I did get a second opinion and
unfortunately it wasn't any different, the tumor was pretty far
advanced.  Her condition and mood declined severly yesterday, even
though she didn't seem to be in much pain she wouldn't eat and didn't
want to move from one spot in the apt.  With her age and previous
condition there wasn't anything anyone could do that would help her in
the long or short term, she was going to just waste away.

She went very peacefully, and I was glad to be able to be there and
not have to worry about her suffering anymore.  Thanks and peace to
all - k
PawsForThought - 18 Sep 2003 17:49 GMT
>From: kspitfire@cheerful.com  (kspitfire)

>She went very peacefully, and I was glad to be able to be there and
>not have to worry about her suffering anymore.  Thanks and peace to
>all - k

I am so sorry for your loss but I'm glad to hear that your kitty went
peacefully.  I know it was a hard decision for you but I believe ending the
suffering of our pets is the kindest thing we can do.

Lauren
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Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
m. L. Briggs - 18 Sep 2003 18:35 GMT
>Thanks for everyone's support - I did get a second opinion and
>unfortunately it wasn't any different, the tumor was pretty far
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>not have to worry about her suffering anymore.  Thanks and peace to
>all - k

Excerpt from my favorite poem:

"And you shall shortly know that lengthened breath
Is not the sweetest gift God send his friend.
And that sometimes the sable pall of death
Conceals the fairest boon His love can send."

Rest in Peace!
Karen Chuplis - 18 Sep 2003 20:21 GMT
I'm so sorry to hear this, but I am glad she went peacefully and with you
there.

Karen
> Thanks for everyone's support - I did get a second opinion and
> unfortunately it wasn't any different, the tumor was pretty far
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> not have to worry about her suffering anymore.  Thanks and peace to
> all - k
Charles M - 18 Sep 2003 21:06 GMT
> I'm so sorry to hear this, but I am glad she went peacefully and with you
> there.
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>> not have to worry about her suffering anymore.  Thanks and peace to
>> all - k

Sorry for your loss. Wish the second opinion had turned out differently.
You did what was best, if that's any consolation.

CMM
Linda E - 19 Sep 2003 00:31 GMT
My condolences.
Linda

> Thanks for everyone's support - I did get a second opinion and
> unfortunately it wasn't any different, the tumor was pretty far
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> not have to worry about her suffering anymore.  Thanks and peace to
> all - k
 
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