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Lee - 18 May 2005 20:41 GMT
The time has come for us to open our hearts to some kitties who need a
permanent home.  It has been a long time since we adopted cats, and
they have always been kittens.  This time, we would like to adopt two
adult cats together, preferably two who have been companions.

I have never adopted adult cats before, only kittens, and need to know
how to make the transition from shelter to new home less stressful for
the cats.

They will have full run of the house, and will be indoor only.  There
are no children or other animals in the house.  They will have several
scratching posts and toys, as well as a cat shelf and a cat tree near
windows.  We are not newbies to cats, only to adopting adult cats!

Any advice on what to expect when adopting adult cats would be
appreciated!

Lee
MaryL - 18 May 2005 22:45 GMT
> The time has come for us to open our hearts to some kitties who need a
> permanent home.  It has been a long time since we adopted cats, and
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>
> Lee

Congratulations!  You're going to love it.  In many ways, it will be easier
(just not as cute) to adopt adult cats.  I do strongly recommend that you
adopt a pair of cats that have been companions (just as you suggested).
Many animal shelters have cats that are accustomed to each other, and
tragically find they often have to break up the pair in order to adopt.  You
could also look on www.petfinder.com.  If it so happens that you cannot
locate a pair, then please adopt one and wait awhile before adopting a
second cat.  Each one would need a period of adjustment.  Assuming that you
do adopt the two together, it would be a good idea to confine the cats in a
single room (perhaps a bedroom) for the first few days, especially during
the time when you can be home.  Again, this gives them an opportunity to
become acclimated to their new home.  You have already mentioned the
arrangements I would have suggested -- cat tree near windows, scratching
posts (tall, sturdy ones that will not topple on an adult cat when used),
and toys.  Everything sounds great, and I think you are "set to go"!

Please keep us updated.

MaryL
tracyrose@gmail.com - 18 May 2005 22:58 GMT
Hi Lee,

Where do you live? (The no-kill where I volunteer has a beautiful set
of 2 year old brothers - lol). I echo what Mary said - sounds like a
good set-up and you will be doing a wonderful thing by keeping together
a pair who love each other. Do use Petfinder as well, it can totally
help you identify a likely suspect or two .... (and e-mail me if you're
anywhere near the Bay Area).
Lee - 19 May 2005 01:27 GMT
> Hi Lee,
>
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> help you identify a likely suspect or two .... (and e-mail me if you're
> anywhere near the Bay Area).

I live far away from the Bay Are, but Petfinders has been a fabulous
resource.  We have several no-kill shelters in the area also.  I am
certain that our biggest problem will be not being able to take in more
than just 2 cats!
Mary - 19 May 2005 01:31 GMT
> > Hi Lee,
> >
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> certain that our biggest problem will be not being able to take in more
> than just 2 cats!

I bet. I just wanted to say that I think it is a fabulous idea to adopt
2 adult cats. I have only adopted adults and have never been sorry--
and only cats are just not as happy as cats with feline companions.
kitkatluna - 19 May 2005 02:47 GMT
> and only cats are just not as happy as cats with feline companions.

Except Luna, queen of thy house. ;)
Too bad for her though. Jasper is KING! :-)
I bet she'd miss him if he were gone. Who else would she pick on and his
at and act like a big old drama queen?

kudos to you, Lee!
Pam
Lee - 19 May 2005 01:46 GMT
> Congratulations!  You're going to love it.  In many ways, it will be easier
> (just not as cute) to adopt adult cats.  I do strongly recommend that you
> adopt a pair of cats that have been companions (just as you suggested).
> Many animal shelters have cats that are accustomed to each other, and

> tragically find they often have to break up the pair in order to adopt.  You
> could also look on www.petfinder.com.  If it so happens that you cannot
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>
> MaryL

Thanks for the guidance!  Our intent is to find a pair.  I know from
Petfinders that they are out there in our region, and since age is not
a factor, I expect our biggest problem will be narrowing our choices.

I am, however, concerned about keeping them confined for the first few
days.  Our house is open concept. The only rooms with doors are the two
bedrooms and the bathrooms.  Would it overwhelm the cats to let them
wander and discover (and hide if they feel like it) at their own pace?
And how do you "teach" an older cat where the litterxes are, anyway?
MaryL - 19 May 2005 02:42 GMT
>> Congratulations!  You're going to love it.  In many ways, it will be
> easier
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> wander and discover (and hide if they feel like it) at their own pace?
> And how do you "teach" an older cat where the litterxes are, anyway?

No, it really won't be a problem if you let them wander.  My suggestion was
made to (1) give them time to adjust to the new home and (2) have them in a
location where you will know where to find them.  However, that is not at
all essential, so I wouldn't worry about the open floor plan.  As to
"finding" the litterboxes, they would probably do that on their own.
Nevertheless, it would be a good idea to set them down beside one of the
litterboxes once just to make it "easy" for them.  I have always found that
adults cats instinctively know what to do with the boxes!  If one of the
boxes happens to be in one of the rooms with doors, you could open their
carriers in that room and close the door for just a short time.  If not --  
still no problem, as far as I am concerned.

Thanks for adopting adult cats.  Kittens are much more easily placed, yet
adult cats can often have many advantages over kittens.

MaryL
Rhonda - 19 May 2005 03:16 GMT
You might want to find out what type of litter they are used to -- and
use that kind at first. That should help their aim. After they learn
where the boxes are, you can slowly change to another type of litter if
you'd like.

Some shelters have big cat rooms where several cats live together. Our
Humane Society has one of those. That's another way to find cats that
you know would like other cats.

Let us know as soon as you have them!

Rhonda

> I am, however, concerned about keeping them confined for the first few
> days.  Our house is open concept. The only rooms with doors are the two
> bedrooms and the bathrooms.  Would it overwhelm the cats to let them
> wander and discover (and hide if they feel like it) at their own pace?
> And how do you "teach" an older cat where the litterxes are, anyway?


Lee - 19 May 2005 01:46 GMT
> Congratulations!  You're going to love it.  In many ways, it will be easier
> (just not as cute) to adopt adult cats.  I do strongly recommend that you
> adopt a pair of cats that have been companions (just as you suggested).
> Many animal shelters have cats that are accustomed to each other, and

> tragically find they often have to break up the pair in order to adopt.  You
> could also look on www.petfinder.com.  If it so happens that you cannot
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>
> MaryL

Thanks for the guidance!  Our intent is to find a pair.  I know from
Petfinders that they are out there in our region, and since age is not
a factor, I expect our biggest problem will be narrowing our choices.

I am, however, concerned about keeping them confined for the first few
days.  Our house is open concept. The only rooms with doors are the two
bedrooms and the bathrooms.  Would it overwhelm the cats to let them
wander and discover (and hide if they feel like it) at their own pace?
And how do you "teach" an older cat where the litterboxes are, anyway?
Gail - 19 May 2005 02:23 GMT
Show the cats where the litter boxes are several times during the day (if
you don't confine them).
. I think it is easier to confine them for the first few days as it makes
them feel more secure and less frightened. Petfinders is wonderful. Most of
the cats I have adopted (or adopted me) were adults.
Gail
>> (just not as cute) to adopt adult cats.  I do strongly recommend that
> you
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> wander and discover (and hide if they feel like it) at their own pace?
> And how do you "teach" an older cat where the litterboxes are, anyway?
Cheryl - 19 May 2005 02:49 GMT
> I am, however, concerned about keeping them confined for the
> first few days.  Our house is open concept. The only rooms with
> doors are the two bedrooms and the bathrooms.  Would it
> overwhelm the cats to let them wander and discover (and hide if
> they feel like it) at their own pace? And how do you "teach" an
> older cat where the litterboxes are, anyway?

In my experience, all cats whether they be babies or grownups will
find the box if you show them where it/THEY(!) is/are. The problem
with kittens is that sometimes they can't get there in time. Older
cats usually do, even in the beginning. I've never had to show my new
adults cats more than once where the boxes are.

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Cheryl

"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited
breath."
- W.C. Fields

kitkatluna - 19 May 2005 03:24 GMT
>>I am, however, concerned about keeping them confined for the
>>first few days.  Our house is open concept. The only rooms with
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> cats usually do, even in the beginning. I've never had to show my new
> adults cats more than once where the boxes are.

sh.t. My 14 year old, deaf and BLIND cat has NO trouble *finding* the
box and using it. When he came to us last august, we just showed him
where it was (not knowing he couldnt see!!!!) and he sniffed it out from
then on! You should have no trouble at ALL, Lee! :-)

pam

Pam
Cheryl - 19 May 2005 00:53 GMT
> The time has come for us to open our hearts to some kitties who
> need a permanent home.  It has been a long time since we adopted
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>
> Lee

Aww! Bless you for deciding on adults!

Many rescue orgs that have fostering programs have foster parents
who care for lots of cats at a time and they can tell you which
ones get along great. Then there are some that they just refuse to
split up and it makes it harder to get them adopted. You'll
definitely get lots of input from fosterers! If there are Petcos or
Petsmarts in your area that do adoption shows on the weekends, I'd
go to some of them and talk to the volunteers. Even if they didn't
bring a bonded pair with them, they likely have some at home that
got to skip a show that week. :)  Good luck!

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Cheryl

"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited
breath."
- W.C. Fields

bigbadbarry - 19 May 2005 03:18 GMT
> Any advice on what to expect when adopting adult cats would be
> appreciated!
>
> Lee

I highly reccomend it. If your looking for a chill cat.

Very affectionate. They know all the rules...there's something about a
cat that never seems to get old, yet, there's nothing graver than an
older cat.

Ruprecht my cat Im not sure how old he is, but he is not a spring
chicken.
Lee - 10 Jun 2005 12:12 GMT
I wrote:

> The time has come for us to open our hearts to some kitties who need a
> permanent home.  It has been a long time since we adopted cats, and
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> Any advice on what to expect when adopting adult cats would be
> appreciated!

Well, we've been watching Petfinders for awhile and visited some
no-kill shelters.  What we found was that we needed a little more time
to work through the grief over the loss over our last senior kitty, so
we stepped back and continued to watch the Petfinder listings.

A local shelter had a listing for two brothers and we thought we'd like
to see them.  However, one of the bothers was already adopted.
Yesterday we returned to the shelter and decided to take home the
remaining brother.  He's huge - he's got to weigh about 20 lbs, and
totally laid-back.  There was another boy there who caught our eye, a
Maine Coon mix. When we introduced the two boys at the shelter, there
seemed to be no issues. One of the boys is 6 years old, they think (he
was a stray rescued from a kill shelter), and the other may be 3 or 4.
We will be bringing them home today!  I'm a little bit nervous and hope
they will be happy here.

However, the Maine Coon boy has some partial hair loss/ severe thinning
on one flank and part of his tail.  The shelter lady said that this
sometimes happens due to stress.  The skin under these areas was
totally clear with no inflammation or anything like that.  Does anyone
have any thoughts on this? We will, of course, take them both to our
own vet ASAP.  

Wish us all luck!

Lee, very excited.
Karen - 10 Jun 2005 13:58 GMT
> I wrote:
>
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>
> Lee, very excited.

Stress is very often a factor. There was a little Persian at our vets that
sucked the tip of her tail raw. She was an "ornament" in her home.The people
did not want to "deal with" why she was doing this. So my vet took her in to
adopt out. The day I saw her, I found out my supervisor's parents beloved
older cat had passed away the week before. The mother was bent on getting
another Siamese type, but I told her about this *adorable* tiny persian lady
kitty. She called her mom who came in and did not pass go to adopt this
kitty. The cat is now a *pampered* pet who is allowed to go where she wants
in the house and travels with them in the camper. No tail sucking issues
have ever surfaced again. Obviously, this cat was totally stressed in her
former environment and her only way of dealing with it was sucking the tail
until raw. Now, there can be other reasons, and certainly allergies can play
a part, but it is quite possible is just the stress of being a shelter
kitty. Congratulations!
Philip - 10 Jun 2005 14:22 GMT
> in article 1118401940.538720.75700@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
>>
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> kitty. She called her mom who came in and did *not* pass go to adopt this
> kitty.

Curious, do you know why the mom was turned down for adoption?  Do you know
if she obtained a replacement for her deceased Siamese elsewhere?

> The cat is now a *pampered* pet who is allowed to go where she wants
> in the house and travels with them in the camper.

So somebody else has this "Persian lady cat" now.  What made these other
people qualified to adopt?
Karen - 10 Jun 2005 14:33 GMT
> > in article 1118401940.538720.75700@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
> >>
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> Curious, do you know why the mom was turned down for adoption?  Do you know
> if she obtained a replacement for her deceased Siamese elsewhere?

Apparently, I was unclear. The mother was NOT turned down for adoption. She
took in the little persian cat. "did not pass go" just a phrase meaning she
didn't even stop to think NOT to run to the vets to adopt this cat.

> > The cat is now a *pampered* pet who is allowed to go where she wants
> > in the house and travels with them in the camper.
>
> So somebody else has this "Persian lady cat" now.  What made these other
> people qualified to adopt?

I didn't think I was that unclear, however, it was early when I wrote that.
Or else you are *trying* to be funny. Ha. Ha.
Philip - 10 Jun 2005 16:24 GMT
>> > in article 1118401940.538720.75700@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> she
> didn't even stop to think NOT to run to the vets to adopt this cat.

If you are using an old copy of Outlook Express without OE QuoteFix patch,
please get it. The bad word wrapping makes your quoted text a pain to
repair.

>> > The cat is now a *pampered* pet who is allowed to go where she wants
>> > in the house and travels with them in the camper.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> that.
> Or else you are *trying* to be funny. Ha. Ha.

Your use of the phrase "did not pass go" is misleading except .... to those
who will come running to defend you from me.  ;^)
KellyH - 10 Jun 2005 14:50 GMT
> Well, we've been watching Petfinders for awhile and visited some
> no-kill shelters.  What we found was that we needed a little more time
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>
> Lee, very excited.

Congrats on your new boys!  The Maine Coon probably does have some stress
licking.  Usually when the hair loss is in the back like that, that's what
it is.  It can also be from rubbing against the cage.  Of course, have the
vet look at it and check him for fleas.

Good luck :)

-Kelly
Mary - 10 Jun 2005 17:33 GMT
> I wrote:
>
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>
> Lee, very excited.

Lee, wonderful news!! Your new cats sound great. I wanted to tell
you that I do have a cat that grooms herself bald when stressed. She
may pull some of it out, but the way it looks when "in process" I really
think she just licks it out. As you say, the skin is perfectly pink and
smoothe. My guess is that once your boy is home and settles in, he
will be fine. (I solved my cat's stress situation and all her lovely
fur came back in! We have another cat that was invading her "turf"
in order to be closer to me. I stopped this by spending more time with
the other cat elsewhere so she stopped coming up to where the
bald kitty likes to call her own.)

Please, if you have time, keep us apprised of how it goes. And
we love kitty pics! You can make an album at Yahoo or any
number of free web sites. I am so happy for you, and for these
deserving boys. I hope they bring your home lots of joy. I
can just imagine how happy they will be to be out of the
shelter.
Lee - 04 Jul 2005 03:56 GMT
I wrote:

> Well, we've been watching Petfinders for awhile and visited some
> no-kill shelters.
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> have any thoughts on this? We will, of course, take them both to our
> own vet ASAP.

They boys have been in their new home with us for about three weeks
now, and have adjusted well.  They like to be together and have been
perfect gentlemen.  They haven't jumped up on counters (off limits to
cats in our house), and are only scratching/clawing where they're
supposed to.  We took them to our vet, and both got treated for ear
mites and got their rabies shots.

Alex, the Maine Coon mix, is estimated to be 2-4 years old and weighs a
solid 14 lbs.  He's a bit high strung and is always on full alert, but
in time we think he'll relax.  His fur is starting to come in again,
but it will be awhile before it's all back.  Apparently Alex was a
rescue from a cat hoarder and had been at the shelter for over a year
because he was part of "evidence" for the ongoing legal case. Alex
loves all his toys.  Every morning I put them all back in a basket
under the cat tree, and by the afternoon, most of them are scattered
througout the house.  He's a joy to watch when he plays!

Smitty, our huge boy, weighed 20 lbs., but is down to 19, probably due
to increased activity and not living in a cage.  The vet said that he
doesn't need to be on a diet - he's just extra large.  His age is
probably 9-10, not the 6 years the shelter thought.  He's going in for
dental work next week for some serious gingivitis and tarter.  He's a
totally laid-back cat, and I can't believe that he was turned in by his
original owner.  He is the sweetest cat I have ever known, loves to get
on any available lap (not that he fits), and he rolls over for tummy
rubs.  He clearly has some meezer in him, because he has dark points
and blue eyes, but he rarely talks, and when he does, it's a tiny
little high voice - hilarious coming from such a big boy!

In general, Alex tends to hang around with Smitty.  He just seems to be
more at ease when Smitty is close by, and they haven't fought at all.

We couldn't be happier with our decision to adopt hard-to-place adult
cats.  These two guys are the best!  Thanks for the words of wisdom
from you all that helped us make this wonderful decision!

Lee
Mary - 04 Jul 2005 04:05 GMT
> I wrote:
>
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>
> Lee

Lee--they sound wonderful!! Bless you. I also have adopted adult cats and
have
never been sorry. Yours sound so polite. Smitty sounds totally adorable, and
it
chokes me up to think about how he feels to be getting love and a good home
at
9 or 10 years old. I really love blue eyes and Siamese coloring. Have you
got a
picture site up yet? Or maybe some to  post to
alt.pictures.binaries.animals??
Karen - 04 Jul 2005 05:54 GMT
> I wrote:
>
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>
> Lee

That is just lovely to hear. May they have many happy years yet.
Annie Wxill - 04 Jul 2005 15:12 GMT
...
> We couldn't be happier with our decision to adopt hard-to-place adult
> cats.  These two guys are the best!  Thanks for the words of wisdom
> from you all that helped us make this wonderful decision!
> Lee

Congratulations on the additions to your family.
Thank you for taking in two adult cats and allowing them to enrich your
life.

Annie
Mary - 04 Jul 2005 16:23 GMT
> ...
> > We couldn't be happier with our decision to adopt hard-to-place adult
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>  Thank you for taking in two adult cats and allowing them to enrich your
> life.

They're the best!!
Helen - 04 Jul 2005 22:19 GMT
> Smitty, our huge boy, weighed 20 lbs., but is down to 19, probably due
> to increased activity and not living in a cage.  The vet said that he
> doesn't need to be on a diet - he's just extra large.  His age is
> probably 9-10, not the 6 years the shelter thought.  He's going in for
> dental work next week for some serious gingivitis and tarter.

Glad to hear your new family members are settling in so well. In view of
Smitty's revised estimated age, I'd strongly recommend running bloodwork
before allowing the dental work to be done. I'd also advise following these
precautions:

http://www.felinecrf.org/related_diseases.htm#dental_precautions

HTH

Helen
Lee - 05 Jul 2005 01:48 GMT
> Glad to hear your new family members are settling in so well. In view of
> Smitty's revised estimated age, I'd strongly recommend running bloodwork
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>
> HTH

Thanks, Helen.  We had bloodwork done on both cats at their first vet
appointment just to make there weren't any surprises, and happily, the
results for both were within normal ranges.  (We've been through a
hyperthyroid condition and CRF with previous cats, and early detection
made these more easily manageable.)  My vet recommends a "senior panel"
every year for older cats, and we always have done this with previous
cats.

Lee
 
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