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Justsomebody - 15 May 2005 01:25 GMT
Just hope some cat lovers out there can give me any insight as to what
to do, or what to expect from this situation:

We got "Boz" from the shelter in March.  He's a long-haired neutered
male, that was 1 year old when we got him.  When he first got home, he
was a little shy, but warmed up quickly and after several weeks was
snuggling with me, and was very friendly to strangers even.  We have
another young male (9 mos.) cat we'd had as a baby.  The two got along
fine, though didn't play together much.

Then...the big mistake.  We started letting them outside.  They both
seemed to be doing well staying close to the house, and coming when
called. But, after another few weeks, Boz ran away.  He was gone the
whole month of April.

Finally we got him back by using a small-animal trap from Animal
Control.  So Boz is home again, but not very happy, and not friendly.
He's been home a week now.  His vocalization has decreased quite a bit,
but he is not interested in me or my husband.  He tolerates being
petted, and seems to like it occassionally, but he will not come to us.
Most of the time he hides under a table, or paces the house.  Once in
a while he will sit in the same room as us for a bit.

I am worried he will never be the friendly little guy I once knew.
Will he always hate us?  We're not letting him outside at all.  He'll
have to learn to be an indoor cat.  Since he is so young, and was only
outside for a month, are these hopes realistic?
zuzu22@webtv.net - 15 May 2005 01:41 GMT
>So Boz is home again, but not very
>happy, and not friendly. He's been home a
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>or paces the house. Once in a while he
>will sit in the same room as us for a bit.

Did you take thim to the vet ? If not this should be the first order of
the day. He may have been injured or picked something up that is making
him not feel well. I'd definitely get a CBC done and have the vet check
closely for abscesses, etc.

Megan

                                   
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bigbadbarry - 15 May 2005 02:08 GMT
> I am worried he will never be the friendly little guy I once knew.
> Will he always hate us?  We're not letting him outside at all.  He'll
> have to learn to be an indoor cat.  Since he is so young, and was only
> outside for a month, are these hopes realistic?

It sounds safe enough to take his actions for face value: He wants to
be somewhere else (right now)...which is no reflection on you guys, he
probably found a little quiet sunny back porch where an old man or
woman spoiled him for a month. Who knows.

Sure, he'll settle down, and know nothing but love for your family.
Instinctively he wants to go play outside, or prowl you know male cat
stuff.

Keep it simple, talk to him, tellem don't get his panties in a wad.
Just consider him home. If you are "walking lite" around him, he will
milk this and probably develop little trifling habits. (listen at me,
like I have a clue)...

I'd chase him around, ambush him at least once a day, insisit that he
rubbed my feet...you know...just rouse him up! He comes and sets in the
room with you guys because he has a need to be social. I don't think
you two should be thinking so loud around the cat.

Don't let your right hand know what your left hand is doing.
Christine Burel - 15 May 2005 02:19 GMT
> Just hope some cat lovers out there can give me any insight as to what
> to do, or what to expect from this situation:
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> have to learn to be an indoor cat.  Since he is so young, and was only
> outside for a month, are these hopes realistic?

I'm thinking I can't see any reason why he can't be readjusted with love,
time, and patience.  After all, think about how unsettled his life has been
since early this year -- who knows where he was before the shelter, then the
shelter, then a
new home, and then the great big outside, now a return to the inside. I'd be
scared and not very trusting if I were him right now. If I were in your
shoes I'd try setting up a very predictable daily routine for Boz and your
other kitty that included some rewards (treats in each other's presence) and
lots of kind talk and praise for any tiny bit of progress Boz makes.  I'd
talk soothingly to him while he eats or if he'll let you sit near the table
he's hiding under; and see if you can engage him in play with a feather wand
or string, or something like that at predictable (for him) times of the day.
If you don't have one, you might consider getting a cat tree also and put it
near the window for him to look out -- my 5 kitties really enjoy them. ( you
might also consider a Feliway diffuser or Feliway spray; it's a pheremone
spray that mimics "happy cat" scent to them; this was mentioned in another
thread here, see "Feliway availability" but it can be ordered online much
less expensively than buying it at a pet store.)

Two summers ago I had major mentoring in how to help turn a outside feral
cat into an inside domesticat. Tucker was about a year old when we took him
in and he adjusted with a lot of love, time, and patience ;o).  Give Boz
time; he'll come around.  Think positively!
regards,
Christine
Hopitus - 15 May 2005 02:37 GMT
For many years every cat I've taken in has adjusted to being an indoor-only
cat with us. In most cases I've had
no idea whether cats ever went out or not...and didn't care. Am hard-nosed
about keeping them inside for their own protection; do not believe they have
a "right" to go
outside. To each his own with that. They eventually adjust and fit right in
with the incumbent cats in our household. BTW since your cat was gone so
long, tests
for feline deadly diseases would be a good idea, as well as what else was
advised, for welfare of any other cats in your household. I don't know
anything about that Feliway people talk about (never got any) but it seems
to be legit @ soothing restless felines.

>> Just hope some cat lovers out there can give me any insight as to what
>> to do, or what to expect from this situation:
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> regards,
> Christine
bigbadbarry - 15 May 2005 02:52 GMT
I'm down with toys on strings and glitzy things cats like.

I think there is also something to be said for handling them. Picking
them up. Letting them down when they want to get down...
The whole idea...the pusle of it see...the big interaction. Maybe it's
a guy thing I don't know, as I say, I like the toy ideas too.
but I'm talking about draping them across the back of your neck,
letting them find their balance on your shoulders - stuff like that.

ah, maybe you have something high he can climb up on, and rule the room
for a while. If all he gets to do is little froo froo stuff like chase
a shiny ball, and eat good meals...I mean...that ain't much for a male
cat you know...I mean, I would not insist that he participate in
anything, but don't be suprised if he takes to it real quick. To
compensate for not being able to go outside right now...(pending some
outdoor scenario...even hard core killers get an hour outside each day.
Something about the rythm of the sun...rising and falling, it tells us
we're alive.) to compensate, I'd let him get away with going wherever
he wanted in the house.
Maybe excluding lounging next to the clean dishes.

I would be very interested in hearing about him as he adjusts over the
next season.
IBen Getiner - 15 May 2005 05:38 GMT
> Just hope some cat lovers out there can give me any insight as to what
> to do, or what to expect from this situation:
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> have to learn to be an indoor cat.  Since he is so young, and was only
> outside for a month, are these hopes realistic?

Why is it that people like you can't seem to understand the obvious and
just let the darned cat live the way he wants to..? He obviously
doesn't want your company. Did you abuse him in some way to make this
all happen? If not, just try and understand that some cats are indoor
animals and others like the free life. Same thing happened to us a
while back. We took in the neighborhood stray and tried to civilize him
to indoor life. But he wanted to 'live out on the street' so to speak.
And ever since we let him follow his fancy, he'z never been happier.
Now, we come out onto our rear deck and there he is ... lounging about
just a happy as the proverbial J-bird. Our other boy now lives free
from the terror and tyranny that the newcat brought into our preaceful
home as well.
Let him be free to be all the cat he can be. This isn't about allowing
him to misbehave... Don't tolerate that for one moment. Have rulez and
enforce them. But it is clear to me that you are trying to capture a
free spirit and put it into a cage. Why? You seem like the kind of
person who has plenty of unresolved emotional issues yourself. Could
this desire to imprison things once free be linked back to any of them?
Issues with your elders..? Your father, perhaps?
Whatever the case, don't take it out on a helpless little cat. Get it
together and leave him alone...
Just my take on things...

                             IBen Getiner
Justsomebody - 15 May 2005 10:16 GMT
OK, Iben, we'll let him out to starve and get in fights.  Good advice
there.
bigbadbarry - 15 May 2005 16:33 GMT
> OK, Iben, we'll let him out to starve and get in fights.  Good advice
> there.

I wouldn't respond to that garbage.

Iben is just mad cause he doesn't possess the nads to tame and
domesticate a small dependent creature.

Someone else on here said, "cats are like children sometimes"...I
agree, and children need led.

Just consider Ibens words a steaming pile of fresh caca and step over
it. Im glad you found your little buddy.

and I tell ya...

When something belongs to you and you lose it (no matter how that
happens)...but you lose it, and you find it again..

That means the cat is twice yours!

You Go!
IBen Getiner - 16 May 2005 03:18 GMT
> OK, Iben, we'll let him out to starve and get in fights.  Good advice
> there.

Yes, but at least he'd be happy. And wouldn't you feed him if he were
out there? What...? Just because he isn't there to snuggle up with...
that somehow makes him not worthy of your care? Man... talk about cold.
And you all go on and on about declawing being such a bad thing, but
fights?? That's one of the reasons why the friggin' cat has claws to
start with, Missy. That's why our Chelsie will never again see the open
air... He has none, nor does he need them any more.
Get it together or leave him alone. He will find someone else to love
and who will love him. Obviously it ain't gonna be YOU.

                             IBen Getiner
bigbadbarry - 15 May 2005 16:29 GMT
> this desire to imprison things once free be linked back to any of them?
> Issues with your elders..? Your father, perhaps?
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>
>                               IBen Getiner

Leave her alone man! That was crule and cold and thick skinned. Even if
there was (which there ain't) a spec of truth in any of your ugly
comments...YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A PRICKLY PEAR.

You are poisoned. An innocent soul shows up, looking for a few good
ideas...and you take the time to spew your poison. If there is a God in
heaven, I hope one of your cats scratches the hell out of you!
Rhonda - 15 May 2005 17:04 GMT
Iben is a troll. His sole purpose is see if he can upset people.

Rhonda

> Leave her alone man! That was crule and cold and thick skinned.
Phil P. - 15 May 2005 06:42 GMT
> Just hope some cat lovers out there can give me any insight as to what
> to do, or what to expect from this situation:
>
> We got "Boz" from the shelter in March.

<snip>

> He was gone the whole month of April.

<snip>

> Finally we got him back by using a small-animal trap from Animal
> Control.  So Boz is home again, but not very happy, and not friendly.
> He's been home a week now.

He's been with you, actually, for only a few weeks- its not 'home' to him
yet. Give him a few more weeks to settle in and become reacclimated.  I'm
sure he'll settle in and warm up to you as soon as he realizes he can trust
you and sees you feeding him.

Have him checked by a vet and make sure he didn't pick up anything
(parasites, diseases, injuries) during his escapade.

Keep the faith!

Phil
Justsomebody - 15 May 2005 17:05 GMT
Thanks to everyone for their kind comments.  Boz will come around, we
see signs of it already.  Just goes to show, if you lose your cat,
don't give up.  We put up tons of fliers and even stuffed mailboxes
with pictures of him.  Even at that, it took a month to get him back.

This morning he laid down and let me pet him for a good while.  :-)

Yay Bozzy!!!  The wild Boz man!
Rhonda - 15 May 2005 17:07 GMT
Sounds like it took a few weeks to turn him into a snugly cat when you
first brought him home. You're probably starting over, and it's going to
take some time for him. It may take longer than the first time, but I'm
sure he will come around. He's been through a tough experience.

Good luck,

Rhonda

> We got "Boz" from the shelter in March.  He's a long-haired neutered
> male, that was 1 year old when we got him.  When he first got home, he
> was a little shy, but warmed up quickly and after several weeks was
> snuggling with me, and was very friendly to strangers even.  We have
> another young male (9 mos.) cat we'd had as a baby.  The two
 
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