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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / May 2005Coconut - please update
Coconut, Please provide an update on the diagnosis and condition of your cat. I know you planned to take him to a vet, but indicated that you are in an area where it was difficult to get the vet to take your cat in a timely manner. This sounded like an emergency to me, and I am very concerned -- and I am sure others are as well. Please keep us informed. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'< http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") >Coconut, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) >http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") I recieved the following message from Coconut Hi John, I got so many nasty emails from the newsgroup that I just plain old unsubscribed to it. People sent me some vicious email because I couldn't take him to the vet in 30 seconds. They don't realize that any creature that I have has got it made and always has a loving home, through thick and thin... Anyway, I took the cat to the vet and it seems he has some small tumors...they don't seem to know whether they are benign or malignant. The shelter just told me to bring him back and get another cat like he was a trade in on a car or something... Fortunately, this cat came upon me, because I'll keep him and deal with whatever happens to him, good or bad.. He's a really sweet guy that sleeps at my feet, lays in my lap and loves my dog. If you want to post this, please feel free to do so, but I sure am not going back to that newsgroup..lol > >Coconut, > > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > If you want to post this, please feel free to do so, > but I sure am not going back to that newsgroup..lol Ok I'll bite, did she really write that?? > > >Coconut, > > > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Ok I'll bite, did she really write that?? I think she probably did. >>Coconut, >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > If you want to post this, please feel free to do so, > but I sure am not going back to that newsgroup..lol Thanks for posting. It does sound like the little cat is in good hands. MaryL >> Coconut, >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > If you want to post this, please feel free to do so, > but I sure am not going back to that newsgroup..lol Thank you for the update. Poor kitty. Poor Coconut :( It sounds now like the fall may have been caused by the illness :( I hope that he pulls through. > Thank you for the update. Poor kitty. Poor Coconut :( It sounds now like > the fall may have been caused by the illness :( I hope that he pulls > through. I think Coconut is the one who had the poor cat who was wobbling and falling over. He/she had just adopted him a few days ago. Hanson is the one who has Peanut, the cat who was stuck in the tree and has liver damage. I would like to know how that kitty is, too. Candace > Hanson is the one who has Peanut, the cat who was stuck in the > tree and has liver damage. I would like to know how that kitty > is, too. > > Candace I'm curious about the elevated enzymes; which ones? How's Peanut?  SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields >> Thank you for the update. Poor kitty. Poor Coconut :( It sounds now > like [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Candace Ohh. Oops. Still.... It's very sad :( > I recieved the following message from Coconut > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > If you want to post this, please feel free to do so, > but I sure am not going back to that newsgroup..lol John, thanks for posting. I hate when there's no follow-up. I know some people think I'm wimpy or whatever because I try to be nice to everyone, but this is why I am. You don't know everyone's situation, where they live, what their finances are, their level of knowledge, etc. Better to be nice and try to help someone, IMHO. Signature-Kelly >> I recieved the following message from Coconut >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >they live, what their finances are, their level of knowledge, etc. Better >to be nice and try to help someone, IMHO. I agree, although the advice to visit a vet NOW is always good. > I agree, although the advice to visit a vet NOW is always good. Yes, it is. My point is that one can say it in a gentle and polite tone and still get the sense of urgency across. Signature-Kelly Thanks, Kelly. Polite tone instead of screaming VET NOW will do more than just chase people away from this newsgroup. It may even help a cat or two. Rhonda >>I agree, although the advice to visit a vet NOW is always good. > > Yes, it is. My point is that one can say it in a gentle and polite tone and > still get the sense of urgency across. > Thanks, Kelly. > > Polite tone instead of screaming VET NOW will do more than just chase > people away from this newsgroup. It may even help a cat or two. > > Rhonda Exactly! MaryL > > I agree, although the advice to visit a vet NOW is always good. > > Yes, it is. My point is that one can say it in a gentle and polite tone and > still get the sense of urgency across. And it is a good point. I'm glad there are people like you. On the other hand, I believe the mollycoddling of the stupid is resulting in unprecedented numbers of incredibly irresponsible people with enormous senses of entitlement--in particular they appear to feel entitled to be protected from any truth that they might find upsetting. And much truth *is* upsetting. But we still need to face it. A good example of this idiocy is the "spoiler" we see idiots like Lyn use in the subject lines of posts. [Death mentioned! Something you might not like mentioned, oooo, better not look!] Many people need to use their heads, and to take responsibility for their lives and their actions. No good is done when we protect others from the reality of their own inept laziness. I think I'll go open a soda. If there is not a warning on the bottle such as "Do Not Point At Face While Opening" I'll be sure to sue if I injure myself in the process. Ugh. > And it is a good point. I'm glad there are people like you. > On the other hand, I believe the mollycoddling of the stupid [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Something you might not like mentioned, oooo, better not > look!] I appreciate the spoiler, particularly for photos or abuse stories re-posted from news articles. And I don't want to look at pictures of piles of dead cats posted by someone as a graphic illustration of the importance of spay/neuter. I've already seen it IRL. I have no wish whatsoever to view abuse or death of cats unless there is something I can actually do about it. Mollycoddling of the stupid is another issue. I bought an iron recently and was disgusted to see the warning, "Do not iron clothes while wearing." Sherry Sherry > I appreciate the spoiler, particularly for photos or abuse stories > re-posted from news articles. And I don't want to look at pictures of > piles of dead cats posted by someone as a graphic illustration of the > importance of spay/neuter. I've already seen it IRL. I have no wish > whatsoever to view abuse or death of cats unless there is something I > can actually do about it. I don't want to see those photos either, but I think just an accurate subject line is all that is needed. I am talking more about the extreme cases of this idiocy, such as "death mentioned" if someone posts and happened to mention, say, that their mother had died. As though people are just too fragile to be exposed to anything that they might find unpleasant, and we have some sort of obligation in a free and open public forum to protect them. I find that annoying and offensive. > Mollycoddling of the stupid is another issue. I bought an iron recently > and was disgusted to see the warning, "Do not iron clothes while > wearing." Hee. These labels are on everything. It's a wonder we can buy rope without a warning label saying "DO NOT WRAP AROUND NECK AND PULL TIGHT!" Or trash bags that do not each have on the side "DO NOT PLACE OVER HEAD AND SEAL AT NECK!" >> I appreciate the spoiler, particularly for photos or abuse stories >> re-posted from news articles. And I don't want to look at pictures of [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >on the side "DO NOT PLACE OVER HEAD AND SEAL AT >NECK!" Trash bags DO have an asphixiation warning. DANGER: CHOKING HAZARD FOR CHILDREN > Trash bags DO have an asphixiation warning. DANGER: CHOKING HAZARD FOR > CHILDREN I had not noticed this, but know it has been on drycleaning bags forever, due to deaths of children who played with them. I think the dry cleaning bags are an example of a place where the labels *are* needed, if you think about kids hanging out in their parents' bedrooms, and the easy access to these things. > >Hee. These labels are on everything. It's a wonder we can buy > >rope without a warning label saying "DO NOT WRAP AROUND > >NECK AND PULL TIGHT!" Or trash bags that do not each have > >on the side "DO NOT PLACE OVER HEAD AND SEAL AT > >NECK!" How about the now famous McDonald's "Caution, Contents Hot" on their coffee cups? :) >> >Hee. These labels are on everything. It's a wonder we can buy >> >rope without a warning label saying "DO NOT WRAP AROUND [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >How about the now famous McDonald's "Caution, Contents Hot" on their coffee >cups? :) I'm in Canada, in BC. Here McDonalds doubles up the cups and issues a verbal AND written warning on the cup that the coffee is hot. The funny thing is, here we don't have frivilous lawsuits because of the way the liabilty law is written. The warning is 100% the result of US head office pressure. > >> >Hee. These labels are on everything. It's a wonder we can buy > >> >rope without a warning label saying "DO NOT WRAP AROUND [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > way the liabilty law is written. The warning is 100% the result of US > head office pressure. well, and plus, you're CANADIANS. :) Just kidding. > And it is a good point. I'm glad there are people like you. > On the other hand, I believe the mollycoddling of the stupid [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > might find upsetting. And much truth *is* upsetting. But we > still need to face it. Having been on the receiving end of a "Get your cat to the vet now, you stupid idiot" post, I can tell you that it puts one immediately on the defensive. For the record, my cat was at the vet, I had neglected to reference a previous post which stated this. I do appreciate a bit of warning when a post is graphic or has a link to awful pictures. The subject being adequately descriptive is enough for me. Signature-Kelly > Having been on the receiving end of a "Get your cat to the vet now, you > stupid idiot" post, I can tell you that it puts one immediately on the > defensive. For the record, my cat was at the vet, I had neglected to > reference a previous post which stated this. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > -- > -Kelly I was on the receiving end once too, Kelly. A stray I'd found on a holiday. Very emaciated with sores, , but eating, purring, eliminating and walking/running just fine. A few people rather thought they could judge the situation from the backside of their monitors better than I could judge, and thought I should pay ER fees, and drive the cat 100 miles, to the closest animal ER. It immediately put me on the defensive too. Sherry "John Ross Mc Master" <pussycat@cathouse.meow> wrote snip > I agree, although the advice to visit a vet NOW is always good. By itself, no, it can be fatal. > "John Ross Mc Master" <pussycat@cathouse.meow> wrote > snip > > I agree, although the advice to visit a vet NOW is always good. > > By itself, no, it can be fatal. Oh, yes. It's very risky advice. > "John Ross Mc Master" <pussycat@cathouse.meow> wrote > snip >> I agree, although the advice to visit a vet NOW is always good. > > By itself, no, it can be fatal. Exactly *how* would advice "to visit a vet NOW" be fatal?? MaryL > > "John Ross Mc Master" <pussycat@cathouse.meow> wrote > > snip [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > MaryL Thats what I was just wondering myself.... > > "John Ross Mc Master" <pussycat@cathouse.meow> wrote > > snip [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Exactly *how* would advice "to visit a vet NOW" be fatal?? I do hope that "Elle" answers this question. I am so curious as to her reasoning. >>> I recieved the following message from Coconut >>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >I agree, although the advice to visit a vet NOW is always good. That is absolutely true John the question is how many times the advice is needed......I can understand two or three because of timeing issues on when the post was written etc........but she was bombarded and couldn't handle that........and then private emails so we couldn't see them harrassing her......sigh........its to bad......as someone said just recently we don't know peoples circumstances.....the worst part is that most of the people care deeply and don't realize when enough is enough maybe they think their post will be the one to put her over the top and go to the vet sooner if possible.......I have a feeling there would be some red faces around here if we knew why she couldn't bring the cat to the vet sooner.......anyway thanks for sharing and if you haven't already why not take a shot at asking her to come back and give us another chance....... Brad LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" >>>> I recieved the following message from Coconut >>>> [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, >SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" I told her that not everyone in the group was an a.shole. This is the closest I came to saying "come back". Not everyone understands the newsgroup thing. I'm an old-timer from binary groups; I've been through flame wars, troll attacks and the like. I guess she hasn't. >I told her that not everyone in the group was an a.shole. This is the >closest I came to saying "come back". Not everyone understands the >newsgroup thing. I'm an old-timer from binary groups; I've been >through flame wars, troll attacks and the like. I guess she hasn't. Yeah it is pretty much like the wild wild west of the internet........and it happens in even the most mundane of subjects no one is safe here but usenet may be the best part of the internet...... Brad LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" I enjoyed your pictures very much. Duffy is a very lucky cat and the pictures really told a story. My favorite shot was the one with the two of them sitting together on the chair at the end (priceless). Good luck and many happy years with Holly and Duffy. > Coconut, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) > http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") >I enjoyed your pictures very much. Duffy is a very lucky cat and the > pictures really told a story. My favorite shot was the one with the two of > them sitting together on the chair at the end (priceless). Good luck and > many happy years with Holly and Duffy. Thanks! They really are my babies. MaryL > Coconut, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) > http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") Odd, everyone else *but* cocoNUT responded. ;) |
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