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hondaruehs@aol.com - 07 May 2005 06:31 GMT
Hi Group,

Another situation, as I am now (even more officially) a full blown cat
nut.... I recieved a box of two kittens today, I began to bottle feed
them and had all supplies on hand, of course....

One female cat "Tora" (Japanese for tiger) was fixed last month and
also got a kitty abortion, we got her as a stray too. She instinctivly
stepped into the mother role of cleaning, protecting, and loving them
like crazy... She is not lactating and can not nurse them but they are
trying to tear her poor nipples off even though I bottle feed them.

Q: should I keep them together so she can care for them? She is so
happy and purring non-stop... Or should I seperate them for Toras
safety and well being?

The kittens and Tora have their own room with a safe secluded little
area.......

Thanks very much as always....
Karl.
Charlie Wilkes - 07 May 2005 08:07 GMT
>Hi Group,
>
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>happy and purring non-stop... Or should I seperate them for Toras
>safety and well being?

I would monitor Tora's nipples, but why would you prevent her from
something that makes her happy and is nice for the kittens too?

Charlie

>The kittens and Tora have their own room with a safe secluded little
>area.......
>
>Thanks very much as always....
>Karl.
Mary - 07 May 2005 17:24 GMT
> >Hi Group,
> >
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> I would monitor Tora's nipples, but why would you prevent her from
> something that makes her happy and is nice for the kittens too?

In humans, suckling produces milk. I wonder if it is the same for cats?
Katrina - 07 May 2005 10:36 GMT
> Hi Group,
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Thanks very much as always....
> Karl.

I'd say leave them together- the benefits for the kittens are immense.  
Keep an eye on Tora's nipples, but don't be surprised if she does start
to lactate. The stimulation of the kittens nursing can trigger
lactation in a spayed female.

Katrina
Mary - 07 May 2005 17:25 GMT
> > Hi Group,
> >
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> to lactate. The stimulation of the kittens nursing can trigger
> lactation in a spayed female.

Ahh, so it is true for cats! In humans, there have been cases
of men producing milk for children.
sriddles@aol.com - 07 May 2005 15:04 GMT
hondaru...@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Thanks very much as always....
> Karl.

Oh, absolutely yes, keep them together. They will thrive better. Even
if she can't nurse them, baby kittens learn everything from Mom, even
how to groom themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't start
lactating. At the shelter, we've had "surrogate mothers" who took on
orphans after their own kittens were weaned.

Sherry
Phil P. - 07 May 2005 15:13 GMT
> Hi Group,
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> like crazy... She is not lactating and can not nurse them but they are
> trying to tear her poor nipples off even though I bottle feed them.

Kittens sucking stimulates the brain to release prolactin-- which stimulates
milk production even if the female isn't/wasn't pregnant.  In certain
situations we use metoclopramide (Reglan) to increase milk production if
necessary.  Nothing is better than a cat's natural milk.

> Q: should I keep them together so she can care for them? She is so
> happy and purring non-stop... Or should I seperate them for Toras
> safety and well being?

If the queen received a clean bill of health from the vet, definitely keep
them together for at least of couple months-- and try to handle the kits as
much as possible-- impoves socialization with other cats and humans.  The
queen will also keep the kits clean and stimulate them to poop.

> The kittens and Tora have their own room with a safe secluded little
> area.......

Just be sure to keep the area warm (85-90F), dry and clean.

> Thanks very much as always....
> Karl.

You're now an incurable ailurophile! ;-)

Best of luck.

Phil
bigbadbarry - 07 May 2005 19:08 GMT
Maybe if she gets irritated (headed toward infection, which could make
the kids sick), maybe you could put a lightweight sleeve around her
abdomen to
prevent them from getting to the nipple, this way she can still
mollycoddle them.
Fritti - 07 May 2005 17:40 GMT
hondaruehs@aol.com Wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Thanks very much as always....
> Karl.

A: Keep them together. It'll benefit both of them. Your Tora gets t
fulfill her maternal instincts, and the kits have the happy safenes
and security of a mother. As the others also advise: do keep an eye o
Tora's nipples. They might get sore, but it won't hurt her. And seein
as that she had an abortion, don't be surprised if she actually start
lactating. Her pregnancy will have already started to activate her mil
glands, and in that case it's even better if your new kits suckle her
Anyway, you will find that keeping them together will create a ver
special bond between both all three of them, and you as the surrogat
mother (the one with the milk). This is going to be one happy felin
family!
Purrs and nudges from the overseas eleven; Whoopi, Venus, Sabine
Tibsy, Jolie, Cleo-Shinta-Li, Bisou, Toby, Frolic, Syrius and Shand
(who is probably going to deliver some cute little fluffies hersel
pretty soon)

--
Fritti
 
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