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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / May 2005Belly Flab
I recently adopted a cat from the local Humane Society. She's in good health but a bit overweight. I've got her on weight maintenance cat food to help correct the problem and am trying to get her exercising more. The vet said the baggy belly probably would not go away, even if she loses weight. Is this true? Is there anything to be done to correct this problem? Thanks for your help! > I recently adopted a cat from the local Humane Society. She's in good health > but a bit overweight. I've got her on weight maintenance cat food to help > correct the problem and am trying to get her exercising more. The vet said > the baggy belly probably would not go away, even if she loses weight. Is > this true? Yep! >Is there anything to be done to correct this problem? What exactly is the problem? Is kitty worried about her figure since swimsuit weather is coming up? > I recently adopted a cat from the local Humane Society. She's in good > health but a bit overweight. I've got her on weight maintenance cat food [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - > Total Privacy via Encryption =---- All cats have the "belly flap". It's a holdover from their ancient wild ancestors. In good times they would eat to their heart's content, and any exess would be stored in the belly flap, also known as a Lion's Pouch. In lean times, they could subsist, for a short while, on the fat stored there.  SignatureThe ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)© email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep >> I recently adopted a cat from the local Humane Society. She's in good >> health but a bit overweight. I've got her on weight maintenance cat [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > as a Lion's Pouch. In lean times, they could subsist, for a short > while, on the fat stored there. Being allowed to over feed themselves lends strongly to the development of a fleshy, saggy, "flap." Genetics has a considerable influence too. But it is not automatic nor universal that all cats have this point of expansion. > All cats have the "belly flap". It's a holdover from their ancient wild > ancestors. In good times they would eat to their heart's content, and any > exess would be stored in the belly flap, also known as a Lion's Pouch. In > lean times, they could subsist, for a short while, on the fat stored there. My cat Tiger (female, 15 years old) doesn't have one of those pouches. Her belly is nice & smooth. The other three all have it, though (2 females, 1 male). Stinky & Harriet, the two females at work, have very obvious pouches. When they run, you can see it swaying back & forth beneath them. -- Liz > > All cats have the "belly flap". It's a holdover from their ancient wild > > ancestors. In good times they would eat to their heart's content, and any [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -- My chat Cheeky has no pouch. She is skinny. My cat Buddha does--she is fat. However, my cat Gnarly was skinny, and had a pouch. And she had maintained the same weight her whole life. So it is about something other than weight. Maybe it is like heavy or trim upper arms in women. That trait is genetic. >> > All cats have the "belly flap". It's a holdover from their ancient wild >> > ancestors. In good times they would eat to their heart's content, and [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >than weight. Maybe it is like heavy or trim upper arms in women. That >trait is genetic. Shaina has a pouch, but it's more like an empty furry bag. i was thinking that perhaps some of it was taken up by her uterus, which she no longer has. she is not skinny, but she i not anywhere near heavy. she just looks healthy. my bf and i joke that she needs a tummy tuck. "Eris" <iilliria@gmail.com> wrote : > Shaina has a pouch, but it's more like an empty furry bag. This is exactly what Gnarly's was like! It flapped like crazy when she ran! Very funny from behind. i was > thinking that perhaps some of it was taken up by her uterus, which she > no longer has. she is not skinny, but she i not anywhere near heavy. > she just looks healthy. my bf and i joke that she needs a tummy tuck. Same with Gnarly. What is odd is that my current skinny spayed girl does not have one. This little cat was feral when they found her pregnant, and she was seriously underweight and pregnant very young, at 7 months old or so, maybe that has something to do with it? What is hilarious now is that while she is being petted she flops on her side, raises her leg like it is on a hinge and makes googly eyes at you while you rub her flat little spotted belly. (She is a tabby.) She looks like a little Kitty Porn Queen when she does this! ;) > "Eris" <iilliria@gmail.com> wrote : > >>Shaina has a pouch, but it's more like an empty furry bag. > > This is exactly what Gnarly's was like! It flapped like crazy when > she ran! Very funny from behind. My friend and I have this little song/thing when our cats run by and their little fur pouch swings from side to side. The best transcription I can provide is this: "ding didaling ding ding" with a cutesy girly voice. Well, Jasper never actually *runs* by, but Luna does and she weighs about 6-7 pounds and is a total skinny minnie. :) Hello rpchb, Pam > > "Eris" <iilliria@gmail.com> wrote : > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > their little fur pouch swings from side to side. The best transcription > I can provide is this: "ding didaling ding ding" with a cutesy girly voice. Hahaha! I could actually hear this! > Well, Jasper never actually *runs* by, but Luna does and she weighs > about 6-7 pounds and is a total skinny minnie. :) > > Hello rpchb, > Pam Hello, Pam! ;) >>>"Eris" <iilliria@gmail.com> wrote : >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Hello, Pam! ;) Sorry I've been such a stranger. Have some of my own health issues and they have been keeping me crazy and busy. Still scanning rpchb, but much less time to post. I've discovered (shocking revelation...;)) that Jasper provides me some very soothing relief when I hold/hug him and he purrs like an engine. Jasper is like prozac for me. Or xanax. Or both. > > > All cats have the "belly flap". It's a holdover from their ancient wild > > > ancestors. In good times they would eat to their heart's content, and [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > than weight. Maybe it is like heavy or trim upper arms in women. That > trait is genetic. When we got Gabe he seemed like a wrestler because he was all muscle in his shoulders, but now that he has gotten older, his muscle in the shoulders has gone away and moved to a pouch in his tummy. Hes so big though that when he walks, his back is swayed a little and it makes his belly sway even more. It seems like what happens to a lot of men when they age, I dont think its just a cat thing ; ) Oreo has a very small one, but you dont notice it unless she is rolling around on her back or side. > When we got Gabe he seemed like a wrestler because he was all muscle > in his shoulders, but now that he has gotten older, his muscle in the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > has a very small one, but you dont notice it unless she is rolling > around on her back or side. Overfed. > > When we got Gabe he seemed like a wrestler because he was all muscle > > in his shoulders, but now that he has gotten older, his muscle in the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Overfed. *shrUg* Thats what I thought too, but hes on an indoor formula and we have been feeding him less than the recommended amount for his size (he was 15 lbs when we got him from the shelter and now hes 17) and he is still like that. He runs and plays with Oreo quite a bit so I dont think its an exercise thing either, but I dont really know. I just figured it was b/c hes a big cat to begin with and hes getting old. These are my first indoor cats, I lived on a farm before so all our cats were mousers and stayed outside. >but hes on an indoor formula and we >have been feeding him less than the >recommended amount for his size (he >was 15 lbs when we got him from the >shelter and now hes 17) and he is still like >that. First off, the rrcommendations on bags of cat food are extremely high and in most cases guarantee weight gain in cats. The second problem is that you're feeding your cat dry food, which is not only an innapropriate diet for carnivores, but also results in obesity and increases the risk of diabetes, kidney failure, urinary tract issues, etc. You can read more here: http://catsincanada.com/articles/feeding.html Get your cat on a good quality canned food, count calories and feed scheduled meals 12 hours apart and your cat will be healthier and lose weight. An average, moderately active indoor cat will need 15 calories per pound of body weight to maintain their weight and 10 calories per pound to lose weight. If you choose to put your cat on this program make sure you have an appropriate scale that will read 1/2 ounces so you can get an accurate weight and make sure your cat doesn't lose too quickly. A weight loss of 4 ounces a week is a safe amount. Weighing your cat once or twice a week before his meal is a good way to monitor weight loss and make adjustments to his food intake accordingly. You can read more about one woman's struggle with her cat's weight loss here (there is also a link to an inexpensive scale on this page): http://community.webtv.net/getcathelp/tucker Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > First off, the rrcommendations on bags of cat food are extremely high > and in most cases guarantee weight gain in cats. The second problem is > that you're feeding your cat dry food, which is not only an > innapropriate diet for carnivores, but also results in obesity and > increases the risk of diabetes, kidney failure, urinary tract issues, > etc. Thanks for the insight :) Didnt want to ask much about it b/c I saw the dry/canned debate sparks off quite a lot of ideas/opinions, didnt want to start WWIII > > First off, the rrcommendations on bags of cat food are extremely high > > and in most cases guarantee weight gain in cats. The second problem is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > dry/canned debate sparks off quite a lot of ideas/opinions, didnt want to > start WWIII Just a note: I switched my cat from dry and canned to just canned, but more of it, and she is losing weight--a couple of pounds this month! It is wonderful to see because she was fat when we corrected her overactive thyroid, then she got fatter. She is ten and we want to have her for many more years, and losing weight is key to her health. marys@catlover.com wrote: >she is losing weight--a couple of pounds >this month! Two pounds in a month is much too fast and is putting your cat at risk. If you're not weighing her at home you should be so you know exactly what's going on week to week and you definitely need to increase her food intake to slow down the weight loss. You don't have to believe me. Ask Phil. He'll say the same thing. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > marys@catlover.com wrote: > >she is losing weight--a couple of pounds [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > food intake to slow down the weight loss. You don't have to believe me. > Ask Phil. He'll say the same thing. No, really? :) Hahahah. You bit. Idiot. marys@catlover.com wrote: >Hahahah. You bit. Whatever. If you want to continue your tiresome and childish games have at it. While you remove all doubt as to your extreme level of immaturity you've also shown that I care about the wellbeing of cats, regardless of who they belong to. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > marys@catlover.com wrote: > >Hahahah. You bit. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > you've also shown that I care about the wellbeing of cats, regardless of > who they belong to. And you know that my cats get regular vet care. And you know that we JUST had the conversation about how much weight loss is safe, and 1 pound a month is about as fast as is safe. Two points, you unhappy creature: 1. You are not the only person who cares about cats 2. A sense of humor would do you a world of good. Not having one is one of the things that has gotten you where you are today. HTH. marys@catlover.com wrote: >And you know that we JUST had the >conversation about how much weight loss >is safe, and 1 pound a month is about as >fast as is safe. Which is why it's not funny when you lie to someone who doesn't know this and might think a two pound a month weight loss in a cat is fine and dandy. That didn't stop you though, did it? You couldn't care less about how what you say might affect others as long as you can engage in your continuous garbage. When you post information you have a responsibility to make sure it is accurate. Misleading others in the name of game playing is scummy and potentially harmful to cats. The regulars here know your motives and that your agenda here has nothing to do with helping cats, and is to disrupt and malign, but new people don't. Megan. Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > marys@catlover.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Megan. You will be cleaning toilets for the rest of your life. marys@catlover.com wrote: >You will be cleaning toilets for the rest of >your life. Truth hurts, doesn't it Mary? Attacking a very minor part of someone's occupation when you have nothing of substance to say in response to truth is the last act of desperation. FYI, you'll be cleaning toilets for the rest of your life as well (as I can't imagine you'd find a cleaning lady that would want to spend even a moment around your miserable countenance) and you have no doubt done so in the past. If you haven't I'd hate to think what the rest of your home looks like. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > marys@catlover.com wrote: > >You will be cleaning toilets for the rest of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > miserable countenance) and you have no doubt done so in the past. If you > haven't I'd hate to think what the rest of your home looks like. How have you managed to live your 50+ years with no sense of humor? It mystifies me. > marys@catlover.com wrote: >> You will be cleaning toilets for the rest of [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - W.H. Murray Some houses "look" very nice inside. IT's the wreak of incontinence (cat, dog, or human) that turns my stomach. > marys@catlover.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Megan. It took me 2-3 days to figure out Mary was in the throws of serious hormonal swings. > > marys@catlover.com wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > It took me 2-3 days to figure out Mary was in the throws of serious hormonal > swings. Shall we discuss here your experiences at the Bengal breeder's? > No, really? :) > > Hahahah. You bit. Idiot. Actually Mary, your reply and attitude makes *YOU* out as the idiot. Helen M >> First off, the rrcommendations on bags of cat food are extremely high >> and in most cases guarantee weight gain in cats. The second problem [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the dry/canned debate sparks off quite a lot of ideas/opinions, didnt > want to start WWIII These women are up to WWXX. Didn't Garfield like lasagna? >>> When we got Gabe he seemed like a wrestler because he was all muscle >>> in his shoulders, but now that he has gotten older, his muscle in [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > old. These are my first indoor cats, I lived on a farm before so all > our cats were mousers and stayed outside. Formula? How about LESS formula? Getting old and gaining weight .... trim back the portions. Ever hear the phrase "killing with kindness" ?? > >>> When we got Gabe he seemed like a wrestler because he was all muscle > >>> in his shoulders, but now that he has gotten older, his muscle in [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Formula? How about LESS formula? Getting old and gaining weight .... trim > back the portions. Ever hear the phrase "killing with kindness" ?? LOL, if I gave him as much as he wanted, I think he would be bigger than Garfield!! : ) Maybe it is too much, but each of them gets about half a cup total/day, split between morning and evening feedings. (Of course, in Hawaii this was augmented by a dose of geckos and cockroaches that ran through the house) The bag was saying to feed them 3/4 cup and that just seems too much to me. I wondered if Gabe was bullying Oreo out of some of her food, but I watch them from time to time when they eat, and he leaves her alone. >>> When we got Gabe he seemed like a wrestler because he was all muscle >>> in his shoulders, but now that he has gotten older, his muscle in [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > old. These are my first indoor cats, I lived on a farm before so all > our cats were mousers and stayed outside. Be PATIENT. 1-2% weight loss per week ... I what I've read. http://cats.about.com/cs/catfood/a/weightcontrol.htm "blueberries79" <blueberries79@cox.net> > > > When we got Gabe he seemed like a wrestler because he was all muscle in his > shoulders, but now that he has gotten older, his muscle in the shoulders has > gone away and moved to a pouch in his tummy. Hes so big though that when he > walks, his back is swayed a little and it makes his belly sway even more. > It seems like what happens to a lot of men when they age, I dont think its > just a cat thing ; ) Hahaha! No, it isn't just a cat thing! One reason I never went for overbuilt men--the wiry ones age better. :) >Oreo has a very small one, but you dont notice it > unless she is rolling around on her back or side. You know, I don't think we can help you any more until we see some pictures. 8-) > You know, I don't think we can help you any more until > we see some pictures. 8-) Working on adding a page on my website devoted to them... didnt realize how many pictures I had until I started going through them tonight. Will give you the link when its up : ) > > You know, I don't think we can help you any more until > > we see some pictures. 8-) > > Working on adding a page on my website devoted to them... didnt realize how > many pictures I had until I started going through them tonight. Will give > you the link when its up : ) Super. I need to get back to putting my own up! >All cats have the "belly flap". It's a holdover from their ancient wild >ancestors. In good times they would eat to their heart's content, and any >exess would be stored in the belly flap, also known as a Lion's Pouch. In >lean times, they could subsist, for a short while, on the fat stored there. Felis lybica (the African Wildcat) is actually quite different from the big cats, predation-wise. Big cats are desgined to gorge and fast -- they make one big kill maybe once or twice a week. Little cats, like F. Lybica, are designed to kill many small things throughout the day, eating every day at least, more often twice or three times. This is why domestic cats are susceptible to Hepatidic Lipidosis when they do not eat for two or more days. Their bodies are deisgned for several small meals a day, not one huge one once a week. In zoos, big cats are fasted once a week for health reasons -- small cats *never* are. It's called a primordial pouch, or sometimes, a 'spay sway'. Primordial pouches exist to give the cats extra protection in that area (cat fights involve a lot of savage kicking with the hind legs at about that area) and to allow a longer leg extension when jumping. A primordial pouch is just a flap of empty extra skin between the hind leg and the torso. 'Spay sways' come from the weight that altered cats put on because their metabolisms slow down. Add that slowdown to the American tendancy to overfeed our pets, and you get a primordial pouch that is filled with fat that shouldn't be there, aka a 'spay sway'. Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid snip > It's called a primordial pouch, or sometimes, a 'spay sway'. Spay sway? LOL No Bag Sag? Belly Bag? Tummy Tank? Pooky Pouch? Paunch? snip > 'Spay sways' come from the weight that altered cats put on > because their metabolisms slow down. Add that slowdown to the > American tendancy to overfeed our pets, and you get a primordial pouch > that is filled with fat that shouldn't be there, aka a 'spay sway'. > > Orchid I can only imagine the underlying cause of this fixation. Flabby owner? >snip >> It's called a primordial pouch, or sometimes, a 'spay sway'. > >Spay sway? LOL No Bag Sag? Belly Bag? Tummy Tank? Pooky Pouch? Paunch? Hey, I don't make this stuff up. >snip >> 'Spay sways' come from the weight that altered cats put on [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >I can only imagine the underlying cause of this fixation. Flabby owner? My boys are actively showing, so their primordial pouches are *empty* as they are a lean and hard 13 pounds of solid muscle each. However, because they're Bengals, having the pouch is important. Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid >> snip >>> It's called a primordial pouch, or sometimes, a 'spay sway'. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage > Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid Is abdominal hammock a feature throwback to Asian Leopard cats? >Is abdominal hammock a feature throwback to Asian Leopard cats? It's not exactly a hammock -- it's a flap of loose skin. If you look closely at http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage/AllStretchedOut.gif you can see a fold of skin right under Kefka's forearm that blends down into his body and then another one on his left hind leg that makes the join of hip to torso a smooth curve instead of an angle. And, yes, it is a wild feature. As I said in my inital response, it allows longer leaping and protection from fights. Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid >> Is abdominal hammock a feature throwback to Asian Leopard cats? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Orchid Kefka is a handsome fella. :-) Do those underarm flaps aid his aeronautics from high places? ;-) > >All cats have the "belly flap". It's a holdover from their ancient wild > >ancestors. In good times they would eat to their heart's content, and any [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage > Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid > >All cats have the "belly flap". It's a holdover from their ancient wild > >ancestors. In good times they would eat to their heart's content, and any [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage > Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid I've had 4 cats. 2 male and 2 female. All have had the belly flap to some degree but it was definitely more pronounced on the females. >I recently adopted a cat from the local Humane Society. She's in good >health but a bit overweight. I've got her on weight maintenance cat food to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption > =---- >I recently adopted a cat from the local Humane Society. She's in good health >but a bit overweight. I've got her on weight maintenance cat food to help >correct the problem and am trying to get her exercising more. The vet said >the baggy belly probably would not go away, even if she loses weight. Is >this true? Is there anything to be done to correct this problem? That little pouch on the belly likely is there for good. It isn't really a problem unless you can't stand to look at it. >> I recently adopted a cat from the local Humane Society. She's in >> good health but a bit overweight. I've got her on weight maintenance [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > That little pouch on the belly likely is there for good. It isn't > really a problem unless you can't stand to look at it. Do you suppose there is a high coincidence of cats with belly bags and overweight owners making excuses for the condition? LOL I am not overweight and I don't want my cat to be, either. I've only had her 2 weeks and I want to get her weight down to make sure she stays healthy! >>> I recently adopted a cat from the local Humane Society. She's in >>> good health but a bit overweight. I've got her on weight maintenance [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Do you suppose there is a high coincidence of cats with belly bags and > overweight owners making excuses for the condition? LOL > I am not overweight and I don't want my cat to be, either. I've only had her > 2 weeks and I want to get her weight down to make sure she stays healthy! It seems to be a feature of some cats. As long as she isn't overweight, it doesn't matter. I don't think there is a hard and fast rule of how they get that or why or why some don't have it. > I am not overweight and I don't want my cat to be, either. I've only had her > 2 weeks and I want to get her weight down to make sure she stays healthy! Ahhh! There's a good cat slave. No worries, it is just skin, not fat, at least when you get them to the right weight. Incidentally, as I wrote above, I have had two skinny girl cats, both which had kittens. One had a belly flap and the other did not. And neither had ever been overweight, and it was not a function of age. I would not worry about it if I were you. I'm really glad you are not worried about it just because of the way she looks. There are jerks out there who see these marvelous creatures as little more than an ornamental possession. > >>> I recently adopted a cat from the local Humane Society. She's in > >>> good health but a bit overweight. I've got her on weight maintenance [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- > >> I recently adopted a cat from the local Humane Society. She's in > >> good health but a bit overweight. I've got her on weight maintenance [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Do you suppose there is a high coincidence of cats with belly bags and > overweight owners making excuses for the condition? LOL Oh, I think there is a lesser incidence of that than of puffed-up overweening jerkoffs in Usenet cat groups. > Do you suppose there is a high coincidence of cats with belly bags and > overweight owners making excuses for the condition? LOL Phillip, I resent that insinuation. Especially because it's true. http://wideopenwest.com/~awesley5155/img/mischief_03.jpg http://wideopenwest.com/~awesley5155/img/mischief_01.jpg (FYI, Your advice on cat diet from a previous posting has already been forwarded to me by CatNipped and I'm working on it.) >> Do you suppose there is a high coincidence of cats with belly bags >> and overweight owners making excuses for the condition? LOL [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > (FYI, Your advice on cat diet from a previous posting has already been > forwarded to me by CatNipped and I'm working on it.) If "Mischief" were at the head of his bed, a house guest might mistake him for a quadrapedal pillowcase! LOL Philip wrote: > Do you suppose there is a high coincidence of cats with belly bags and > overweight owners making excuses for the condition? LOL Phillip, I resent that insinuation. Especially because it's true. It's not neccesarily true. To be honest both me and the SO are somewhat more "ample" than we should be. That's because we're both a little too fond of beer and Ben and Jerry's. Our owners get a much better diet than we do and are an appropriate weight for their size because we count the calories for them. Lesley Slave of the Fabulous (and slender) Furballs >> Do you suppose there is a high coincidence of cats with belly bags > and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > (FYI, Your advice on cat diet from a previous posting has already been > forwarded to me by CatNipped and I'm working on it.) NO, NO, NO, NO, NO! Not *THAT* Philip - *THAT* Philip is a troll who just recently started posting here and likes to call names and post provocative and inciting things. The advice I sent you came from Phil P. who works in cat rescue and with a vet. *PLEASE* don't *EVER* take that Philip's advice - he sounds more than a little abusive. Hugs, CatNipped [snip] > > (FYI, Your advice on cat diet from a previous posting has already been > > forwarded to me by CatNipped and I'm working on it.) > NO, NO, NO, NO, NO! Not *THAT* Philip - [snip] oops. Sorry. Correction noted, CatNipped. There's sooooo much traffic on this group, hard for a newbie to keep track. Tony > [snip] > > > (FYI, Your advice on cat diet from a previous posting has already [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tony LOL Tony, I agree! It's obvious there are quite a few hate/hate relationships out there, I'm trying to figure them out before getting too much 'into the thick of things' Good luck : ) > [snip] > > > (FYI, Your advice on cat diet from a previous posting has already [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tony I understand, I just didn't want you to start taking advice from *that* Philip - he's a bit of an a.s. Phil P. can get over-the-top (as most of us here can, especially when our buttons get pushed), but he's very knowledgeable, especially about diet and cat rescue. Hugs, CatNipped > [snip] > > > (FYI, Your advice on cat diet from a previous posting has already [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > There's sooooo much traffic on this group, hard for a newbie to keep > track. We like to keep you on your toes. =) > >I recently adopted a cat from the local Humane Society. She's in good health > >but a bit overweight. I've got her on weight maintenance cat food to help [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > That little pouch on the belly likely is there for good. It isn't > really a problem unless you can't stand to look at it. And then it still is not a problem because it is on the CAT, who hopefully is more than mere ornamentation. Which was the point of my initial answer, flippant as it was. >I recently adopted a cat from the local Humane Society. She's in good >health but a bit overweight. I've got her on weight maintenance cat food to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thanks for your help! This flap is actually perfectly normal. It is more noticeable on some cats than on others and often becomes more pronounced after spaying. It probably will not go away, but it also is not a problem (except perhaps to people's sense of aesthetics). It is not a sign overweight -- you would need to look for other factors for that. MaryL |
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