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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / May 2005Listless cat
Hello, I'm a new poster to the group and a relatively new cat owner. One of our cats (almost 2 years old, former feral trapped at about 6 - 8 weeks of age) has been extremely listless and withdrawn since yesterday afternoon. She slept most of the day yesterday, not even getting up and playing in the evening as is normal. She was perfectly normal in the morning, going outside (supervised) to play in the morning. When I talked to her and attempted to pet her and see if she was OK, she went upstairs into her hidey spot and would not come out. She spent the entire night up there and is still not coming out. Her sister seems fine and is her normal, bouncy self. Is this a symptom that I should treat as "Vet, NOW!" or is this something just to keep an eye on her for a while. Thank you! bisky Vet now. There is something wrong and I would not delay in having her see the vet. Gail > Hello, I'm a new poster to the group and a relatively new cat owner. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Thank you! > bisky > Vet now. There is something wrong and I would not delay in having her see > the vet. I agree. > Vet now. There is something wrong and I would not delay in having her see > the vet. > Gail I agree. Vet now, when my cat had these symptoms, he died withing 96 hours from kidney failure. > Hello, I'm a new poster to the group and a relatively new cat owner. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Thank you! > bisky I don't disagree, but I will add that it is often a "fever of unknown origin" and clears up in a day or two on it's own. Especially with such a young cat. Cats do get bugs. But on the chance that something is seriously wrong, she probably should see a vet asap to rule out the more serious possibilities. Just to add to this, my cat had one of those fevers, but it got dangerously high and had to stay at the vet during the day for 2 days for observation and fluids. It was diagnosed, as Tracy wrote, as a "fever of unknown origin". I would take to vet just to be safe. > Just to add to this, my cat had one of those fevers, but it got > dangerously high and had to stay at the vet during the day for 2 days > for observation and fluids. It was diagnosed, as Tracy wrote, as a > "fever of unknown origin". Luckily, we work from home and so can monitor her closely during the day. And I can do fluids and basic medical treatment. I've been rescuing bunnies for 10 years now and if it was a bunny, I'd know exactly what to do, but I'm new to this whole cat thing. > I would take to vet just to be safe. Thanks. bisky > I don't disagree, but I will add that it is often a "fever of unknown > origin" and clears up in a day or two on it's own. Especially with such > a young cat. Cats do get bugs. But on the chance that something is > seriously wrong, she probably should see a vet asap to rule out the > more serious possibilities. Thanks, everyone. I'm on a con-call I can't get out of right now but will be calling the vet when I get off the phone. Let us know what comes of this, okay? Joe > Let us know what comes of this, okay? Yup! We went to the vet and the vet says URI. Amelia has a very red throat and some conjuntivitis and is running a slight fever. Vet says no big deal, gave her some subQ fluids and a little baby food (to stave off fatty liver). The vet said that if it lasts for much longer to bring her in and they'll do a full blood workup and white count and give her interferon. So, no big deal. We got sent home with some lysine as an immune-support. Amelia is curled up in one of her safe spots, but luckily it's one where I can keep an eye on her. She's washed a little and moved around a little. She looks miserable and pathetic, but she should start feeling better soon. Vet says it's no problem to bring her back for fluids tomorrow if she still looks bad. Thanks, everyone! bisky > > Let us know what comes of this, okay? > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > bisky Wonderful outcome and kudos to you for taking her to the vet to be sure she is okay. I wish everyone with cats would do this. > Wonderful outcome and kudos to you for taking her > to the vet to be sure she is okay. I wish everyone with > cats would do this. *grin* I'm lucky that I have the resources to spend almost unlimited amounts of money on the pets and I own my own business so I have the flexibility to call the vet and go at the drop of a hat. Besides, this wasn't even a bad visit -- under $100. Any time I get out of the vets for under $300 I'm happy. Now, I just need to convince her sister Valeria that Amelia is still Amelia, it's *not* a strange cat that looks just like Amelia but smells funny and STOP HISSING! bisky > Any time I get out of the vets > for under $300 I'm happy. I'm happy with under $50, but then I have just the one.  Signaturehttp://www.slywy.com/ > Now, I just need to convince her sister Valeria that Amelia is still > Amelia, it's *not* a strange cat that looks just like Amelia but smells > funny and STOP HISSING! Amelia picked up new scents at the vet's office, so: she smells different to Valeria. Rub a some catnip between your hands then pet both cats. Next time one cat has to go to the vet, bring the other cat too- you won't have this problem. Phil >> Now, I just need to convince her sister Valeria that Amelia is still >> Amelia, it's *not* a strange cat that looks just like Amelia but smells [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Next time one cat has to go to the vet, bring the other cat too- you won't > have this problem. Oh, it was quite clear that was what was going on. It's a problem in bunnies, I didn't realize it was going to be such a problem with cats, too. Unfortunately, we are not able to consistently approach them and pick them up and our house only has doors on the bedrooms... which means a wild romp through the house if we're ever going to catch a cat. The next two weeks are going to be ... interesting. The hissing seems to have stopped now. Thanks! bisky > >> Now, I just need to convince her sister Valeria that Amelia is still > >> Amelia, it's *not* a strange cat that looks just like Amelia but smells [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > bunnies, I didn't realize it was going to be such a problem with cats, > too. Oh yeah. A lot of people have the same problem with their cats. Unfortunately, we are not able to consistently approach them and > pick them up and our house only has doors on the bedrooms... which > means a wild romp through the house if we're ever going to catch a cat. Don't take out the carriers or put a coat on until you have a hold on the cats; and don't chase the cats-- let them come to you then put them in the carriers. My cats used to dissapear to parts unknown for hours as soon as they saw me with a carrier. Now, I leave two carriers out and open at all times so I don't tip them off when its vet time. I've gotten them to follow a laser dot and chase treats into the carriers when playing so they don't associate the carrier with only getting a thermometer shoved up their butts or stuck with a needle. When was the last time you saw a cat do this:? http://www.maxshouse.com/album/Khali_on_Kennel-12-18-04b.jpg or better yet, this?: http://www.maxshouse.com/album/Khali_in_Kennel-12-04-3997.jpg LOL! > The next two weeks are going to be ... interesting. Start leaving the carriers out and open now so they used to seeing them around without going anywhere- this way the carriers won't freak them out. > The hissing seems to have stopped now. The relationships between the cats usually return to normal within a few days, but I've heard of a few relationships that were never the same after a trip to the vet. My cats all have their best buds and I don't want to take any chances, so, best buds go to the vet together. > Thanks! Best of luck. Phil > When was the last time you saw a cat do this:? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > LOL! haha I love his squishy face, he looks like hes great to cuddle with : ) > When was the last time you saw a cat do this:? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://www.maxshouse.com/album/Khali_in_Kennel-12-04-3997.jpg Hodge does both all the time. He sees carriers as sheltered, I suppose. I must admit, it surprised me the first time I saw him going into the smaller one on his own . . . Signaturehttp://www.slywy.com/ >> Oh, it was quite clear that was what was going on. It's a problem in >> bunnies, I didn't realize it was going to be such a problem with cats, >> too. > > Oh yeah. A lot of people have the same problem with their cats. :) > Unfortunately, we are not able to consistently approach them and >> pick them up and our house only has doors on the bedrooms... which [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > cats; and don't chase the cats-- let them come to you then put them in the > carriers. They're *smart* and I've been struggling with how to teach them to come to us in the house. Put 'em outside and they're *angels* and they come when they're called and even will go inside when they're told. I just have to stick my head out the back door and say "Kittens!" and two kittens pop out going "here we are!" I've even taught Valeria to sit on command, although that more as a defensive mechanism than because I wanted to teach her to sit. I'm happy to share the story if people are interested. But I can't sort out the right way to desensitize them to being approached. It's difficult to walk up to them -- even just to pet them. This isn't a carrier / vet problem, it's a more systemic issue. A number of people warned us that they were probably too old when we trapped them (6 - 8 weeks). It would be much easier to train them if they liked treats, too. *sigh* > My cats used to dissapear to parts unknown for hours as soon as they saw me > with a carrier. Now, I leave two carriers out and open at all times so I > don't tip them off when its vet time. I've gotten them to follow a laser > dot and chase treats into the carriers when playing so they don't associate > the carrier with only getting a thermometer shoved up their butts or stuck > with a needle. OOOH! Laser pointer is brilliant. They love the laser pointer. > When was the last time you saw a cat do this:? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://www.maxshouse.com/album/Khali_in_Kennel-12-04-3997.jpg There's a carrier on the back porch for the feral and the kittens go in and out of that without any problems. I will keep one out inside. I'm embarassed I didn't think of that before. >> The next two weeks are going to be ... interesting. > > Start leaving the carriers out and open now so they used to seeing them > around without going anywhere- this way the carriers won't freak them out. Yup. It's more trying to get the cat convinced that I can approach her and pet her and give her lysine. >> The hissing seems to have stopped now. > > The relationships between the cats usually return to normal within a few > days, but I've heard of a few relationships that were never the same after a > trip to the vet. My cats all have their best buds and I don't want to take > any chances, so, best buds go to the vet together. Hubby is less convinced than I am that this is a good idea. But all their other vet trips have been as a set and I think it's a good idea. bisky Phil is back. ugh. > Hello, I'm a new poster to the group and a relatively new cat owner. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Is this a symptom that I should treat as "Vet, NOW!" Yes. Vet NOW. Right now. Do not pass GO, do not collect $200. Poison, acute kidney failure, internal bleeding...get her in now and she might be fine. Wait, and she might not. Signature-- ~kaeli~ Shotgun wedding: A case of wife or death. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace Biskybabe <biskybabe@hotmail.com> wrote: > She spent the entire night up there and is still not coming out. > Her sister seems fine and is her normal, bouncy self. Is this a > symptom that I should treat as "Vet, NOW!" No. > or is this something just to keep an eye on her for a while. Cats need to play, but that behavior might be caused by a change in the weather. Warmer weather tends to make my cats sleep. Also possible is maybe she was attacked by one of the other cats, or harshly disciplined (I'm not implying/suggesting anything by that). Good luck. > Is this a symptom that I should treat as "Vet, NOW!" or is this > something just to keep an eye on her for a while. Does she feel hot to the touch? Is her tongue protruding at all? A couple years ago Hodge had similar listless symptoms, plus he felt warm to me and his tongue was protruding. I took him to the emergency hospital, where they said he had a fever/unknown cause. It took 5-6 hours of IV antibiotics and ice to get it down. The next Monday, the veterinarian said he did have some crystals, although that was not the cause of the fever. It was about $600 but better than the alternative. Signaturehttp://www.slywy.com/ |
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