Update on prior post elsewhere - in case y'all read it on alt.med.vet - here's
the old post, corrected and with additions - I've been looking on the net for
info, but I still need informed opinions from outside -
Just got back from the vet - he diagnosed my 5-yr old spayed female Siamese cat
as having kidney failure, was going to keep her 48 hours and push IV fluids
through her, said that if there is a 50% decrease in current BUN & creatinine
values then further treatment will be indicated. He did not talk about what if
it's not decreased. But if the values did go down that much, then he'd want to
keep her another 3 days, continue fluids, then send her home for me to continue
SQ fluid and give her a special diet - low amounts of high-quality protein. He
said that because she is Siamese it's likely a genetic defect, and that she's
only 5 suggests that it's a bad defect.
That was on Wednesday - yesterday, they did an ultrasound and said the kidneys
look normal size/shape.
On Weds, she was dehydrated but most values on Superchem 200 Profile 2 were in
normal range - here are the others, as of Weds:
BUN is now 148 (ref range 14-36)
creatinine 10.0 (ref range 0.6-2.4).
Na, Cl, and Ca are just barely lower than the ref range, potassium is normal,
Na/K ratio is normal
GGT is high: 13 (ref 1-10)
Phosphorus is high: 26.2 (ref 2.4-8.2)
Amylase is 1588 (ref 100-1200)
Osmolality is 347 (ref 299-330) maybe just dehydration?
CBC is normal except the PCV is 26 (ref 29-48), so I guess the kidneys are also
not putting out normal levels of erythropoietin.
Neg for FeLV & FIV, 1:400 titer for FCV.
Physical exam - he said the anterior abdomen "just didn't feel right", though
he felt nothing specific wrong - ie no masses. She had been listless for 2-3
days - no other symptoms at all - she had lost 1 pound of weight, but we'd been
trying to do that - she had been 9 pounds, and had had just a little excess
tummy.
Now on Friday, the BUN & creatinine have not gone down as much as hoped - BUN
is 80 compared to 148 on Weds (ref 14-36), and creatinine is 7, where it was 10
(ref 0.6-2.4).
I think the vet wants to euthanize - he did not today talk about treatment,
said the prognosis is not good. I won't do that, at least not until I'm sure
she can't come back from this and have a good life at least for a while. But
how bad off is she really? She is peeing but not eating - but then she's been
on glucose in the drip at first and now lactated Ringer's.
Mary T.
MacCandace - 13 Sep 2003 04:16 GMT
<< I think the vet wants to euthanize - he did not today talk about treatment,
said the prognosis is not good. I won't do that, at least not until I'm sure
she can't come back from this and have a good life at least for a while. >>
I'm sorry about your poor kitty, Mary. I have a little experience with CRF but
not what you are going through. Look at the website www.felinecrf.org. There
is a section on "crashing" which is what it sounds like is happening to your
cat. I believe section 7 of the Symptoms section specifically addresses the
issue although I am sure you will find much helpful info on the rest of the
site, as well. Many people have had success in bringing a cat back from a
severe crash. We had an 8 year old cat that crashed a couple of years ago.
We were not aware that she had chronic renal failure, she was only 8, and then
she crashed on top of that. We treated her for a few days and the vet didn't
seem encouraging so we then euthanized her after she didn't respond but I still
wonder if we gave up too quickly. Maybe we should have tried harder. I also
have a cat with CRF right now but he is 17 and doing very well.
It's true that your cat's values didn't decrease by half but they still
decreased significantly, it seems, so maybe there is hope.
Please keep us posted on her progress. Best of luck to her.
Candace
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Phil P. - 13 Sep 2003 10:07 GMT
> On Weds, she was dehydrated but most values on Superchem 200 Profile 2 were in
> normal range - here are the others, as of Weds:
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> CBC is normal except the PCV is 26 (ref 29-48), so I guess the kidneys are also
> not putting out normal levels of erythropoietin.
Where are the results of the urinalysis? How does he know whether the
azotemia is primary renal or *prerenal*? USG and bloodwork together provide
a more accurate assessment of true renal function than either alone.
Phil.