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Geriatric bloodwork?

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KellyH - 29 Apr 2005 16:19 GMT
When is a cat considered geriatric?  I know it used to be 7 years old, but I
thought that may have changed.  NewCat is 9.  My previous vet had not
suggested it yet.  It's coming up on time for her annual and now we are with
a new vet.  Before I take her in, just want to gain a little knowledge.
NewCat appears to be healthy, no signs of the usual older cat illnesses.

Thanks.

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-Kelly

Catnipped - 29 Apr 2005 16:21 GMT
> When is a cat considered geriatric?  I know it used to be 7 years old, but I
> thought that may have changed.  NewCat is 9.  My previous vet had not
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> Thanks.

I think it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to have it done, if nothing else
than as a "baseline" to measure against as she gets older.

Hugs,

CatNipped
KellyH - 30 Apr 2005 01:15 GMT
> I think it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to have it done, if nothing
> else
> than as a "baseline" to measure against as she gets older.

True.  Sounds like a plan.
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-Kelly

yngver - 29 Apr 2005 16:38 GMT
> When is a cat considered geriatric?  I know it used to be 7 years old, but I
> thought that may have changed.  NewCat is 9.  My previous vet had not

> suggested it yet.  It's coming up on time for her annual and now we are with
> a new vet.  Before I take her in, just want to gain a little knowledge.
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> --

My vet starts the geriatric exams at age 7. I agree, I think that's a
bit too young--our two older cats are 7 and 8, and it adds quite a bit
of expense to the annual exam. However, it can also pick up problems
you aren't aware of--routine geriatric urinalysis showed crystals in
our cat's urine--so I think it's a good idea if you can afford it. I
believe after age 10 or so, the advice is to have check-ups every six
months rather than yearly, but I'm not positive about that.
--Yngver
Helen - 29 Apr 2005 18:04 GMT
> When is a cat considered geriatric?  I know it used to be 7 years old, but I
> thought that may have changed.  NewCat is 9.  My previous vet had not
> suggested it yet.  It's coming up on time for her annual and now we are with
> a new vet.  Before I take her in, just want to gain a little knowledge.
> NewCat appears to be healthy, no signs of the usual older cat illnesses.

See
http://www.felinecrf.org/diagnosis.htm#annual_bloodwork

HTH

Helen
KellyH - 30 Apr 2005 01:15 GMT
> See
> http://www.felinecrf.org/diagnosis.htm#annual_bloodwork
>
> HTH
>
> Helen

Thanks!  Lots of good info there.
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-Kelly

-L. - 30 Apr 2005 03:23 GMT
> When is a cat considered geriatric?  I know it used to be 7 years old, but I
> thought that may have changed.  NewCat is 9.  My previous vet had not

> suggested it yet.  It's coming up on time for her annual and now we are with
> a new vet.  Before I take her in, just want to gain a little knowledge.
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> --
> -Kelly

We used to label them geriatric at 12, at the cat hosp where I worked.
That's when we recommended a geri panel, etc., unless there were known
complications or disease.

-L.
KellyH - 30 Apr 2005 08:25 GMT
> We used to label them geriatric at 12, at the cat hosp where I worked.
> That's when we recommended a geri panel, etc., unless there were known
> complications or disease.
>
> -L.

12 makes much more sense than 7, especially for an indoor-only cat.  I'll
talk to the vet about it.  I might get it done anyway since I'm such a
worrywart.
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-Kelly

sriddles@aol.com - 30 Apr 2005 14:54 GMT
> > -L.
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> --
> -Kelly

Kelly, is there different criteria for indoor or outdoor cats? I know
indoor cats usually live longer, but I always figured it was due to
accidents/communicable disease, not onset of the usual diseases that
come on with old age.
I took Yoda in for a geriatric blood panel. I think he's probably
between 11-13 years old. He already had a baseline of sorts from when
he was so sick a couple years ago. He just seemed to act old, walking
slow and stuff, I think it was Megan who suggested a blood panel
becuase he shouldn't be acting old at 13. Anyhoo. Everything was within
normal range.
Now I read that polys are more susceptible to arthritis. I'm wondering
if he has that. That would explain him walking slow, sometimes, but not
always. He still plays. He still acts like a 2-year-old if he chases
the laser pointer.
Heh. Or maybe I'm just obsessing. I really love that old cat.

Sherry
KellyH - 30 Apr 2005 17:09 GMT
> Kelly, is there different criteria for indoor or outdoor cats? I know
> indoor cats usually live longer, but I always figured it was due to
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> Sherry

I was more thinking along the lines of stray vs owned, that would have been
a better way to phrase it than indoor-only.  You know how you get a 7 year
old stray at the shelter and they look much older than a 7 year old
housecat?  Almost always need a dental and have something going on.  In
Yoda's case, yes he goes outside, but he has someone looking out for him and
doesn't have the hard life a stray would.
NewCat doesn't act like she's 9 either.  She still gets the zoomies once a
day, is very social, eats and uses the litterbox fine, etc.

-Kelly
-L. - 30 Apr 2005 18:22 GMT
sridd...@aol.com wrote:

> Kelly, is there different criteria for indoor or outdoor cats? I know
> indoor cats usually live longer, but I always figured it was due to
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>
> Sherry

It's hard to tell.  Did you find him as an adult?  IME, animals that
have had any amount of time on the street as youngsters generally live
shorter lives than if they have been born into indentured servitude. ;)
If they live outdoors, generally life is harder,  even if they are an
"owned" cat - all of their instincts are "on point" all the time while
outdoors - which has to have an effect over the long-term.  It's not
uncommon for indoor-outdoor cats to start to show age much earlier than
indoor-only cats.

If cats show any signs of disease or aging past age about 8-9 or so,
some vets will pull a geriatic panel just to be sure everything's ok.

And arthritis can present at any age.  

-L.
sriddles@aol.com - 30 Apr 2005 19:27 GMT
> sridd...@aol.com wrote:
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> -L.

He was originally from a litter of farm kittens somebody had. He was
still pretty young when we got him, I'm just not sure how old. Although
I"m sure he never went to vet or got the most premium food, I do recall
empty 9-Lives cans all over the place when we got him. So it wasn't
like he had to scrounge for anything to eat anyway. He didn't act old
until he had a severe bout with HL and nearly died. He just never
really was the "same" although nobody else would probably notice except
me.

The vet kind of blows me off about this since the blood panel was good.
It's even hard to describe. "He eats good, plays, poops fine, acts
normal in every other way. But he "walks too slow."  

Sherry
-L. - 30 Apr 2005 22:46 GMT
sridd...@aol.com wrote:
> He was originally from a litter of farm kittens somebody had. He was
> still pretty young when we got him, I'm just not sure how old. Although
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> Sherry

Well, my guess would be pain - from arthritis or otherwise.  If it
concerns you, I'd get a second opinion.  If he's rambunctious at times,
I wouldn't be too concerned, though.  Peewee has slowed down quite a
bit, too.  But if I have food and say "Run, Peewee, run!" he will run
like all get-out. ;)

-L.
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sriddles@aol.com - 01 May 2005 01:13 GMT
> sridd...@aol.com wrote:
> > He was originally from a litter of farm kittens somebody had. He was
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> -L.

He does still get rambunctious at times--he'll chase the laser dot like
crazy. He never asks to go outside much anymore. If he does, he just
goes out and spends an hour laying on top of my car, pretending to be
the Lincoln Mercury Cougar. :-)
It could be that he has a little arthritis, and has stiffness or joint
pain just like many of us people do, particularly when we've been
sitting a long time or just get up. There's a product I keep meaning to
ask the vet about -- for joint health--glucosamine? Is that it?
But again, what I'm noticing is pretty subtle. Probably most people
wouldn't even notice it.
What I don't want to do is put him on any kind of medication he doesn't
need, because of the liver problem. Although the bloodwork looked fine
now, at one time he only had 60% liver function.

Sherry
 
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