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Cats' growing "intelligence" as they age.

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Brian Link - 25 Apr 2005 06:09 GMT
Growing up, we had several cats. In college, I lived with landlords'
cats (taking better care of them than their owners, iirc). Since
getting married and returning home 15 years ago, I've had seven cats.
Wide variety.. unexpected litters, strays, purebreeds, humane society
adoptees, etc.

One thing I've noticed is that no matter how bizarre and alien a cat
seems in its infancy and adolescence, gradually some sort of sentience
seems to dawn on them.

The most recent reminder of this is a little drama that played out
tonight between Tiger and me. Tiger's a 11+ year old farm cat who's
lived through almost all of our other recent residents.

Trying to work (which, since I work at home, I must do constantly) I
was suddenly disturbed by a horrible noise in the kitchen. Tiger had
cornered the bag of recycling, and was pawing it in such a way as to
make the greatest possible noise (cans, bottles, paper.. you get the
idea).

When I got up to see what was going on, I heard a soft mewing. When I
called out "Louis?" (the Bengal, still a kid), I heard Louis'
characteristic 100 decibel howl from the kitchen cabinets.

I let Louis out, after he'd prolly darted in there while I was putting
away dishes, and went back to work. Tiger hopped up on the desk and
licked my hand, and fell asleep.

My only assumption is that Tiger knew something was wrong, sounded the
alarum, and when it was answered was satisfied and went back to his
nap.

Others have much more astounding stories of intelligence, but I can
distinctly remember when Tiger was a clueless "Nermal" harrassing the
other cats and acting crazy.

One explanation of this that I've heard is that cats learn by living
with humans. They can realize when your intervention is necessary,
realize what alarms you recognize, and activate them.

Tiger has also gone from a fairly aloof cat to one who appreciates a
good stroke and bed-with-his-people.

Do you think that domestic cats are simply social creatures who take a
long time to figure out human behaviors? And that the older a cat
becomes in our care, the more they seem "human"?

Tonight's drama with Tiger is just a sample, but I've had similar
experiences with other cats who've lived with me a long time.

Just curious to hear people's reactions.

BLink
-L. - 25 Apr 2005 07:08 GMT
> Growing up, we had several cats. In college, I lived with landlords'
> cats (taking better care of them than their owners, iirc). Since
> getting married and returning home 15 years ago, I've had seven cats.
> Wide variety.. unexpected litters, strays, purebreeds, humane society
> adoptees, etc.

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I think with age they just mellow and tend to focus more.  As
youngsters they just have to run off all of that excess energy.  Once
they are older, the energy level drops and it affects the personality a
little bit.  They seem wiser, but in fact, are just a bit more focused.
And they aren't nearly as spazzy with age, either.  Sort of like dogs,
in that respect.  

That's my take on it, anyway.

-L.
Meghan Noecker - 27 Apr 2005 09:07 GMT
>I think with age they just mellow and tend to focus more.  As
>youngsters they just have to run off all of that excess energy.  Once
>they are older, the energy level drops and it affects the personality a
>little bit.  They seem wiser, but in fact, are just a bit more focused.
> And they aren't nearly as spazzy with age, either.  Sort of like dogs,
>in that respect.  

I think that is a lot of it. I also believe that they simply have a
lot of time to think about stuff, since they don't have to hunt or
fight to survive. So, they have lots of time to observe our behavior
and learn about things.

Chase doesn't intentionallt bother me often anymore, but he knows
there are only two things that will bother me while I am sleeping. I
can ignore meowing, but I cannot ignore chewing on plastic or
growling. So, if he wants my attention, he just starts chewing in some
plastic, or he stares at Kira, and she growls.

Jay Jay is in the experimental stage. He talks a bit differently, so I
am learning what he wants, and he is learning how to get me to
understand. He seems to be learning, as his requests are easier for me
to understand.

Kira has usually been very direct and easy to understand. But there
are times when I can see the frustration. Her expression comes across
as :How much slower do I need to say it for you to understand!?!"  I
can tell that she is definitely trying to communicate something.

But yes, the older cats are much better at it. Even Jay Jay, at age 3
or 4, is more deliberate and less flakey than Chase was at age 2. Yet,
I knew Chase from a kitten, and Jay Jay about 2 months now.

So I would say both age and relationship make a difference.

Also stress level. My rescued dog was abused before I got her, and she
would mentally shut down anytime she thought she was in trouble or got
confused. And once she shut down, it was impossible for her to learn.
So, we had to take baby steps in her education. She did eventually get
over it, but it was up to us to keep her below that stress threshold.

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bigbadbarry - 25 Apr 2005 13:10 GMT
Morning. I talk to my cat like It was a people. I think he gets some of
it or at least tries. I try to use same words for certain things, like
"You wanna go outside?"

If I have to step over him, I say excuse me (is that nuts or
what)...but I try show him respect...I think he appreciates it. lol

Whenever I'm leaving the house, I always rattle my keys a tad...and
tell him..see ya later.

Cool article!
bookbug2005 - 25 Apr 2005 20:23 GMT
I not only believe my cat to be intelligent, but psychic as well.  I
may walk into the kitchen 15 times in the course of a day, but if I go
in with the intent to feed Charley, he's there before I ever lay a hand
on his foodstuffs.  Yes, I do feed him around the same times everyday.
So if he is not psychic, he can at least tell time.  ;-)

Michelle
bigbadbarry - 29 Apr 2005 19:56 GMT
> I not only believe my cat to be intelligent, but psychic as well.  I
> may walk into the kitchen 15 times in the course of a day, but if I go
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>
> Michelle

You might be right, I got a new bag of cat food, and came in the house,
but fed the cat from the current bag..still several good handfuls
left...he wouldn't eat it, but just sat there avoiding eye contact,
gazing left..then right...then back...then cut his eyes at the new
bag...
ha! cats crack me up.
bookbug2005 - 30 Apr 2005 19:36 GMT
>You might be right, I got a new bag of cat food, and came >in the
house, but fed the cat from the current bag..still >several good
handfuls left...he wouldn't eat it, but just sat >there avoiding eye
contact, gazing left..then right...then >back...then cut his eyes at
the new bag... ha! cats crack >me up.

LOL!  Oh yes, and then there are the times Charley decides to be onery,
doing things he knows he's not supposed to do, but when I go and get
the squirt bottle to give him a reminder lesson, I come back to find
him acting totally civilized and innocent--before he's seen what I
brought with me.  Hmmmm.
bigbadbarry - 01 May 2005 02:12 GMT
>   Hmmmm.

sooo funny, for two days in a row, cat would do a SUPER FLY off the
mantle; that's old skool wrestling manuver...there's no school like the
old school (and Im just a child)...

you get airborne and bellyflop your target (my head)

anywho! 3rd day today, I was awake and waiting I was gonna snatch him
out of the air...you know, we just playin...I watched him watching me
out of the corner of his eye...God its cute, he thinks he's sooo clever

I didn't see the jump, but whomp! right beside my head...
Mary - 01 May 2005 16:10 GMT
> >   Hmmmm.
>
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>
> I didn't see the jump, but whomp! right beside my head...

He really sounds like a neat cat. :)
bookbug2005 - 01 May 2005 19:23 GMT
I didn't see the jump, but whomp! right beside my head...

Aha, the surprise attack.  Charley enjoys lying in wait just for the
opportunity to startle me.  And then there are the endless games of
fetch--at his instigation of course.  He'll play for 20-30 minutes at a
time.  Much better than any dog I've had.

Michelle
bigbadbarry - 01 May 2005 19:38 GMT
> I didn't see the jump, but whomp! right beside my head...
>
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>
> Michelle

haha  I thought cats took things and ran, that's neat.
Maybe he's a catdog. just kidding. I had a weird dream earlier, that
Ruprecht had been taken, and replaced by a similiar cat, in my dream, I
say to myself, that is not Ruprecht, then I woke up. Ruprecht was
napping beside me, I reached over rubbing his head, and he seemed like
he knew I had a bad dream, he grabbed my hand with his arms, and buried
his head in my palm...and wouldnt let me go, bless his little heart.
(thinking about cats having a 7th sense)
Diane L. Schirf - 01 May 2005 19:46 GMT
> I had a weird dream earlier, that
> Ruprecht had been taken, and replaced by a similiar cat, in my dream, I
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> his head in my palm...and wouldnt let me go, bless his little heart.
> (thinking about cats having a 7th sense)

That's all part of that strange cat's plot to convince you he's Ruprecht.

Watch your back.

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bookbug2005 - 02 May 2005 02:08 GMT
>That's all part of that strange cat's plot to convince you >he's
Ruprecht.

>Watch your back.

LMAOF!
Michelle
bigbadbarry - 02 May 2005 04:46 GMT
Ha, funny you say that...

Im going to set my web cam to record any motion in the bedroom tonight
get to the bottom of this; what if I play the video in the morning and
find
a human figure had passed through the room
Mary - 02 May 2005 05:35 GMT
> Ha, funny you say that...
>
> Im going to set my web cam to record any motion in the bedroom tonight
> get to the bottom of this; what if I play the video in the morning and
> find
> a human figure had passed through the room

Then my advice to you would be to pack up Ruprecht and your valuables and
get the hell out of there!
bigbadbarry - 02 May 2005 23:55 GMT
> > Ha, funny you say that...
> >
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> Then my advice to you would be to pack up Ruprecht and your valuables and
> get the hell out of there!

Fo reel! and in that order.
 
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