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does your cat twitch while sleeping?

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John Doe - 22 Apr 2005 13:56 GMT
Right now, Kiki is lying on my left arm and chest, sleeping and
obviously dreaming (I compute while lying down). Sometimes when she
falls asleep, she starts to twitch like a dog does but not so
obviously. I'm sure it is common, but just in case, are others are
familiar with it?
Karen - 22 Apr 2005 14:35 GMT
I haven't seen my girls do it much but Grant used to as well as some cats
growing up. What I think is funny is when their whiskers twitch and their
lips do a little too. Must be dreaming about being quite fierce.

> Right now, Kiki is lying on my left arm and chest, sleeping and
> obviously dreaming (I compute while lying down). Sometimes when she
> falls asleep, she starts to twitch like a dog does but not so
> obviously. I'm sure it is common, but just in case, are others are
> familiar with it?
soundtechpro@adelphia.net - 23 Apr 2005 21:47 GMT
I also find the nap twitch funny... My cats sleep in a SnooziCat
Sleepsack.  It is great sleeping bag for cats.  When they are sleeping
in the sack sometimes the sleepsack twitches...It is quite
amusing...especially when it grabs the attention / curiousity of our
other cat. It is very entertaining.  The twitching I believe is REM
sleep and is normal.
Diane L. Schirf - 23 Apr 2005 21:57 GMT
> y cats sleep in a SnooziCat
> Sleepsack.  It is great sleeping bag for cats.  

I couldn't find this using Google. Can you post a link for it?

Also, I wanted to start a thread -- it'd be great if we could name some
of our favourite cat products. Most of the stuff I've bought I've
learned about through this group, and I'm always interested in seeing
what other people buy, especially online. (We have only a mom-and-pop
type pet store, and I don't drive.) Gives me ideas, and may give others
ideas, too.

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Karen - 23 Apr 2005 22:33 GMT
>> y cats sleep in a SnooziCat
>> Sleepsack.  It is great sleeping bag for cats.
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> type pet store, and I don't drive.) Gives me ideas, and may give others
> ideas, too.

I tell you what, it turns out the Panic Mouse is about as good as plunking a
kid in front of a TV set. Pearl will come bug me at night when I am grading
and can't take time to play. I turn that baby on and she is totally content.
She may play a bit but sometimes, she just sits and watches it. Seems
perfectly content for 1/2 to an hour. By then I can usually do some real
playing but even if we can't, she goes to bed peacefully. Both she and Sugar
play, play with it too. I bought it a long time ago, but Grant and Sugar
seemed not that impressed. I put it away for several years. I was going to
give it away, but it has become a prime entertainment toy, so it stays. If I
recall, at the time I bought it I had another interactive toy called the
Magic Wand or something like that that Sugar played with all the time. It
died finally though and they do not make them anymore, so she seems to enjoy
this in its place.

Of course, cat trees. Never bought a one they don't use.

Nip sticks are the best catnip toy I've ever bought. Last forever and the
cats adoere them. Wrestle witht he sausage ones.
http://www.fullcircleherb.com/default.html
Serious. Best ever toy.
-L. - 24 Apr 2005 07:17 GMT
> Also, I wanted to start a thread -- it'd be great if we could name some
> of our favourite cat products. Most of the stuff I've bought I've
> learned about through this group, and I'm always interested in seeing

> what other people buy, especially online. (We have only a mom-and-pop

> type pet store, and I don't drive.) Gives me ideas, and may give others
> ideas, too.
>
> --
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I don't buy anything on-line, but
there are a few products I recommend...

Cat Dancer - the best all-around cat toy under $5.00
Precious Cat Cat Litter (http://www.preciouscat.com)
Groomax nail clippers

Most of my bedding I buy on clearance at discount stores or second-hand
at Goodwill (because in general they are softer and less expensive).  I
often will take a wooden or coardboard box and line it with a fresh,
clean cushy blanket and inevitably, one of the cats claims it.  But
Peewee is too big for most cat beds, and Mimi prefers a box, anyway. :)

I have sort of found what works for one cat may not for the next...

-L.
Cathy Friedmann - 24 Apr 2005 16:13 GMT
> > y cats sleep in a SnooziCat
> > Sleepsack.  It is great sleeping bag for cats.
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> type pet store, and I don't drive.) Gives me ideas, and may give others
> ideas, too.

1- Double-doored pet carriers - the kind w/ both front & top-loading doors -
the top door makes it *much* easier to get a recalcitrant cat in & out of
the carrier.

2 - Cat Scratcher - corrugated cardboard scratching board

3 - All-in-one sisal scratcher - has rubber feet so it can be horizontal,
w/out sliding around on the floor

4 - Cat bed made of wicker that has 2 levels - bottom is enclosed & top is
open.

Toys:

5 - Da Bird

6 - Cat Dancer

7 - Little, lightweight balls, and spirals of lightweight plastic - my cats
have never been into ones that are big & too heavy to easily bat around

Avaialble via Drs. Foster & Smith - paper catalog or on-line, &/or some at
chain/local pet-supply stores.

Cathy
-L. - 24 Apr 2005 17:07 GMT
> 1- Double-doored pet carriers - the kind w/ both front & top-loading doors -
> the top door makes it *much* easier to get a recalcitrant cat in & out of
> the carrier.

I second this.  With that I would NOT recommend the soft-sided carrier
like the Sherpa.  It is nearly impossible to get an upset cat into one,
and most people who work at vets' offices hate them for that reason.
Plus, they are nearly impossible to clean.

-L.
Diane L. Schirf - 24 Apr 2005 17:40 GMT
> I second this.  With that I would NOT recommend the soft-sided carrier
> like the Sherpa.  It is nearly impossible to get an upset cat into one,
> and most people who work at vets' offices hate them for that reason.

I love the Sherpa, and Hodge seems to, too. We've never had a problem
getting him into it -- and he can be one upset cat when he wants to be.
:O

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tracyrose@gmail.com - 24 Apr 2005 18:55 GMT
Ditto. We have a Sherpa carrier and a hard-sided carrier, and one of
our two is a semi-feral wild cat who has defeated the efforts of
shelter workers and vet techs to case her when she doesn't want to be
cased. I have an EASIER time getting her into the Sherpa than any hard
case I've owned ....
-L. - 24 Apr 2005 22:15 GMT
> Ditto. We have a Sherpa carrier and a hard-sided carrier, and one of
> our two is a semi-feral wild cat who has defeated the efforts of
> shelter workers and vet techs to case her when she doesn't want to be
> cased. I have an EASIER time getting her into the Sherpa than any hard
> case I've owned ....

Well, IME that would be the exception to the rule.

-L.
KellyH - 25 Apr 2005 05:03 GMT
>> Ditto. We have a Sherpa carrier and a hard-sided carrier, and one of
>> our two is a semi-feral wild cat who has defeated the efforts of
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>
> Well, IME that would be the exception to the rule.

Same here.  The soft-sided carriers tend to collapse and make it difficult
to get an upset cat into the carrier.  Just my experience from the shelter
and home.  Also, ditto on the hard to clean up in case of an accident.  With
a plastic carrier, you can just hose the thing down.

I like the double-door carriers myself.
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Diane L. Schirf - 25 Apr 2005 11:42 GMT
> >> Ditto. We have a Sherpa carrier and a hard-sided carrier, and one of
> >> our two is a semi-feral wild cat who has defeated the efforts of
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Same here.

Ummm, I don't think there's a "rule." Just different experiences.

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Cheryl - 24 Apr 2005 23:07 GMT
> Also, I wanted to start a thread -- it'd be great if we could
> name some of our favourite cat products. Most of the stuff I've
> bought I've learned about through this group, and I'm always
> interested in seeing what other people buy, especially online.
> (We have only a mom-and-pop type pet store, and I don't drive.)
> Gives me ideas, and may give others ideas, too.

Each of the below listings is from the cats POV. I'll list duds
that I've bought following favorite list.

Favorite cat furniture:
-Two large sturdy cats trees (one purchased online, one purchased
in a store)
-2 carpetted 2' tall covered condos (for scratching mostly, though
the kittens like playing inside of them, too)
-Various scratching posts and mini perches, including a post my dad
made years ago that I just have him recover from time to time
-Window perches that attach to the very slender window sills

Beds:
-We have many cat beds, but the most favorite are blankets folded
up on the bed, the couch, or just the floor

Toys:
-laser pointer - all time favorite interactive toy
-Play -n- squeak mice are the favorite play alone toy
-Felt micey toys that rattle (best if marinated in catnip)
-Socks filled with catnip
-Felt toys that don't even make a sound but are easy to fling
around (this surprised me as being such fun!)
-Turbo scratcher (a must!)
-Da Bird
-Crinkle toys (balls, a bird)
-ice cubes on the kitchen floor - the sound makes the kittens come
running the same way a can opener will other cats

Water dispenser:
-Drinkwell fountain - it sat unused for a while, but the kittens
love it and they've even gotten the older 2 to drink from it

The dud list:
-Cheese Mountain - purchased online, you can google it
-Panic mouse - though the kittens liked it and broke it. The older
cats didn't like it after a day
-The Drinkwell almost made it to this list until the kittens, now
its a must-have even though its hard to clean
-Remote control mouse - it doesn't work on carpets and my only non
carpetted floors are the kitchen and the bathrooms

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Justin L - 24 Apr 2005 23:17 GMT
>> y cats sleep in a SnooziCat
>> Sleepsack.  It is great sleeping bag for cats.  
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>type pet store, and I don't drive.) Gives me ideas, and may give others
>ideas, too.

favorite toys:

cat dancer
wand with rainbow colored string on it (don't know name, but they both
love this one)
mouse that squeaks when touched
ping-pong balls
laser pointer (although the batteries outlasted the pointer)

also worth mentioning, small ball of tinfoil and an old shoe.

Justin
Karen - 25 Apr 2005 01:07 GMT
I have to add the Zoom Groom. Man, that thing works and the cats are sooooo
in nirvana when you use it.
Karen - 23 Apr 2005 22:07 GMT
in article 1114289265.332615.288180@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,
soundtechpro@adelphia.net at soundtechpro@adelphia.net wrote on 4/23/05 3:47
PM:

> SnooziCat
> Sleepsack

What! is a SnooziCat Sleepsack?
-L. - 25 Apr 2005 02:58 GMT
> What! is a SnooziCat Sleepsack?

Whatever it is, it has a great name, LOL...

-L.
Karen - 25 Apr 2005 03:15 GMT
>> What! is a SnooziCat Sleepsack?
>
> Whatever it is, it has a great name, LOL...
>
> -L.

It does. I wish they would post a link.
soft - 26 Apr 2005 04:54 GMT
>>> What! is a SnooziCat Sleepsack?
>>
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>>
>It does. I wish they would post a link.

Could it be this? I just got it with my paw prints and the cats love
it

http://www.mypawpoints.com/images/reward03.jpg

soft
Diane L. Schirf - 26 Apr 2005 11:28 GMT
> Could it be this? I just got it with my paw prints and the cats love
> it
>
> http://www.mypawpoints.com/images/reward03.jpg

With price:
<http://www.kittenkaboodle.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?store_code=KK&screen
=PROD&product_code=KISS-17>

Hmmm. We may have to investigate this further.

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-L. - 26 Apr 2005 18:02 GMT
> Could it be this? I just got it with my paw prints and the cats love
> it
>
> http://www.mypawpoints.com/images/reward03.jpg
>
> soft

Could be - does it crinkle?  Looks really cute.  Dunno if it would be
big enough for King Pooh-a-Lot but if so, he'd love it.  Is it as big
as a regular paper grocery bag?

-L.
soft - 26 Apr 2005 23:43 GMT
>> Could it be this? I just got it with my paw prints and the cats love
>> it
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Could be - does it crinkle?
Yes it crinkles when they step on it or if some one is inside and then
someone else steps on it...

> Looks really cute.  Dunno if it would be big enough for King Pooh-a-Lot but if so, he'd love it.  Is it as big
>as a regular paper grocery bag?

Yes , although Lancelot is almost too long if he doesn't curl - but he
gets in it and curls up. (Lancelot is the maine coon)

>-L.

soft
Rhonda - 22 Apr 2005 17:13 GMT
I've noticed our adults cats twitching sometimes, but not as much as
kittens.

Last year, we had a litter of kittens (from a stray), and they were
master-twitchers. They would nurse, then fall asleep, and in 30 seconds
be twitched and jerking like crazy. It was almost instantaneous. They
were just one big mound of moving kitten parts.

Rhonda

> Right now, Kiki is lying on my left arm and chest, sleeping and
> obviously dreaming (I compute while lying down). Sometimes when she
> falls asleep, she starts to twitch like a dog does but not so
> obviously. I'm sure it is common, but just in case, are others are
> familiar with it?
Jeneen Sommers - 22 Apr 2005 17:19 GMT
> Right now, Kiki is lying on my left arm and chest, sleeping and
> obviously dreaming (I compute while lying down). Sometimes when she
> falls asleep, she starts to twitch like a dog does but not so
> obviously. I'm sure it is common, but just in case, are others are
> familiar with it?

Both of my kitties (8 years old) twitch in their sleep.  They also
snore, and talk in their sleep.  Combine all that with taking up
most of the bed, and it's hard for _me_ to get any sleep!

Jeneen
Philip - 22 Apr 2005 17:23 GMT
> Right now, Kiki is lying on my left arm and chest, sleeping and
> obviously dreaming (I compute while lying down). Sometimes when she
> falls asleep, she starts to twitch like a dog does but not so
> obviously. I'm sure it is common, but just in case, are others are
> familiar with it?

Our late tabby started twitching in his sleep from about age 8.  Always
limited to spasms in his legs. As the years passed he would also sleep with
his eyes half open and twitch from time to time!

Then one morning early, there was a cat fight outside. Rusty jumped up on
the bedroom window to watch.  LOTS of swearing outside (woke us up).   Well,
after the fight broke up, all of us went back to sleep.  About a half hour
later, I was awakened again by low level growling and yowling.  But this
time it was at the foot of our bed!  Rusty was asleep, twitching, and
mimicking the cats he'd heard earlier!  Craziest thing!  This went on for a
couple of minutes and then subsided.
Ashley - 22 Apr 2005 21:35 GMT
> Right now, Kiki is lying on my left arm and chest, sleeping and
> obviously dreaming (I compute while lying down). Sometimes when she
> falls asleep, she starts to twitch like a dog does but not so
> obviously. I'm sure it is common, but just in case, are others are
> familiar with it?

Yup, absolutely. Nose, eyelids, front paws are all usually involved. And
every now and then there's a bit of sound as well.
Cheryl - 23 Apr 2005 00:28 GMT
> Right now, Kiki is lying on my left arm and chest, sleeping and
> obviously dreaming (I compute while lying down). Sometimes when
> she falls asleep, she starts to twitch like a dog does but not
> so obviously. I'm sure it is common, but just in case, are
> others are familiar with it?

Yup! All of my cats past and present twitch something in their sleep.
Not all the time, but probably during REM sleep (do they have REM
sleep?). I almost want to wake them up but figure its normal, and
they'd just be mad at me for interrupting a dream. :)

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Lesley Madigan - 25 Apr 2005 14:36 GMT
> Yup! All of my cats past and present twitch something in their sleep.
> Not all the time, but probably during REM sleep (do they have REM
> sleep?).

Yes cats do have REM sleep through kittens have very little of it
(Newborn kittens apparently never have REM sleep) because non-REM
sleep is neccesary for their physical growth and healthy immune
system. As the kitten starts to grow REM sleep increases until it
reaches adult levels. 60% or so of cat sleep is REM sleep which is 3
times as much as Humans! Twitching is only seem in REM sleep which
does suggest the cat is dreaming.

Isis (RB) was the winner for elaborate twitching she did it virtually
every time she was asleep I've even seen her leap up and strike out
then settle back down with her eyes firmly closed throughout

Lesley

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John Doe - 25 Apr 2005 21:16 GMT
LMadigan@hhnt.nhs.uk (Lesley Madigan) wrote:

>> Yup! All of my cats past and present twitch something in their
>> sleep. Not all the time, but probably during REM sleep (do they
>> have REM sleep?).
>
> Yes cats do have REM sleep through kittens have very little of
> it (Newborn kittens apparently never have REM sleep)

Rhonda has observed twitching in kittens.

Message-ID: <426922E2.9040900@attremovethis.net>

because non-REM
> sleep is neccesary for their physical growth and healthy immune
> system. As the kitten starts to grow REM sleep increases until
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>
> Slave of the Fabulous (and twitching) Furballs
mlbriggs - 26 Apr 2005 01:01 GMT
>> Yup! All of my cats past and present twitch something in their sleep.
>> Not all the time, but probably during REM sleep (do they have REM
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Slave of the Fabulous (and twitching) Furballs

Princess (RB) once jumped up ready to fight in the middle of a dream.  I
turned on the light when I heard the commotion.  She looked kind of
stunned to find she was in her own bed.  She looked around, turned around
and settled down to sleep again. ...and said "it was only a dream".MLB
Slimpickins - 23 Apr 2005 06:00 GMT
> Right now, Kiki is lying on my left arm and chest, sleeping and
> obviously dreaming (I compute while lying down). Sometimes when she
> falls asleep, she starts to twitch like a dog does but not so
> obviously. I'm sure it is common, but just in case, are others are
> familiar with it?

**Yes, my dear Blue used to twitch a lot when he slept. He seemed to sleep
soo deeply, falling into a very deep sleep. And always when he awoke, often
quite suddenly, he would immediately head straight to his food bowl and eat.
He was so sweet and enduring.  May God rest his sweet soul.
.oO rach Oo. - 23 Apr 2005 22:04 GMT
Yes. Both our girls sleep. Delilah will almost look like she is running and
Stella will do this plus their whiskers twitch and there is the odd meow in
their sleep or chirp. We always wonder what they're dreaming. It seems like
most dreams consist of chasing prey.

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>> Right now, Kiki is lying on my left arm and chest, sleeping and
>> obviously dreaming (I compute while lying down). Sometimes when she
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> eat.
> He was so sweet and enduring.  May God rest his sweet soul.
bigbadbarry - 25 Apr 2005 23:48 GMT
bigbadbarry - 27 Apr 2005 00:33 GMT
My cat twitched last night...first time I've ever noticed...
but this was after a good warm bath, a good meal...
I figure he was tired from all the grooming after the bath.
Mary - 27 Apr 2005 01:10 GMT
> My cat twitched last night...first time I've ever noticed...
> but this was after a good warm bath, a good meal...
> I figure he was tired from all the grooming after the bath.

hey, did you post his photo, the one of his face when
he is all clean and fluffy? If so it got lost in all the crap
generated by Phillip the Anal.
bigbadbarry - 27 Apr 2005 02:16 GMT
> hey, did you post his photo, the one of his face when
> he is all clean and fluffy? If so it got lost in all the crap
> generated by Phillip the Anal.

notchet...but a good idea is a good idea...Ill see what I can do...

I'd like to see that little black cat...with the white boots...
Mary - 27 Apr 2005 02:43 GMT
> > hey, did you post his photo, the one of his face when
> > he is all clean and fluffy? If so it got lost in all the crap
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>
> I'd like to see that little black cat...with the white boots...

Okay, I will work on that, too. :O)
bigbadbarry - 27 Apr 2005 03:45 GMT
> > hey, did you post his photo, the one of his face when
> > he is all clean and fluffy? If so it got lost in all the crap
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I'd like to see that little black cat...with the white boots...

http://www.barryparrish.com/image/cat/

Heres some better pics..poor little fella got caught in the rain.
Thats two days...
Diane L. Schirf - 27 Apr 2005 04:22 GMT
> http://www.barryparrish.com/image/cat/
>
> Heres some better pics..poor little fella got caught in the rain.
> Thats two days...

Hey, Barry, you ever consider feeding that poor starving guy? :)

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Mary - 27 Apr 2005 04:55 GMT
> > > hey, did you post his photo, the one of his face when
> > > he is all clean and fluffy? If so it got lost in all the crap
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Heres some better pics..poor little fella got caught in the rain.
> Thats two days...

Oh, man, what a big boy! He's very handsome. I love those
white mittens.
 
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