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John Doe - 21 Apr 2005 02:44 GMT
I have been using 1 gallon ziplock plastic bags for years to put
clumps of litter in before taking the whole bag to the trash.
Recently, I noticed what might be an easier way to do things.

... cut the top off of a litter container so that you have like a
small trash can

... insert a small plastic bag like a grocery bag

That's it. When I go to add clumps, I just put the bag edges over the
trash can edges. When finished, twirl up the top of the bag and stick
it down into the trash can. Works great so far. It's easy because I
don't have to keep the stupid ziplock bag opening from getting in the
way of incoming clumps. The wide opening makes it less messy also.

The grocery bag might not hold as much as a 1 gallon ziplock bag, but
it will hold plenty. I had to carry the ziplock bag by the bottom
anyway.
mlbriggs - 21 Apr 2005 03:14 GMT
> I have been using 1 gallon ziplock plastic bags for years to put clumps of
> litter in before taking the whole bag to the trash. Recently, I noticed
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> The grocery bag might not hold as much as a 1 gallon ziplock bag, but it
> will hold plenty. I had to carry the ziplock bag by the bottom anyway.

I use the bags I bring fruit and vegs home from the store.  I keep the
current one in a small plastic waste basket,  I scoop several times a day
and just open the bag and put it in.  Every other day I tie it closed and
put it out with the trash.  Easy and economical.  MLB
Elizabeth Blake - 21 Apr 2005 03:41 GMT
> I have been using 1 gallon ziplock plastic bags for years to put
> clumps of litter in before taking the whole bag to the trash.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> it will hold plenty. I had to carry the ziplock bag by the bottom
> anyway.

I buy the smallest garbage bags I can find (4 gallon, I think, but might be
smaller) and use a regular little trash can in the bathroom.  I scoop twice
a day and throw the bag out every day.  I don't even bother trying to seal
off the bag between scoops, as it doesn't really smell.  I use World's Best
Cat Litter, which is also flushable.  I do sometimes flush the clumps but
try not to do it too much, because they keep sending notices around warning
tenants not to flush any litter.  I do flush the poop about 90% of the time,
though.  Hardly any litter sticks to the turds so I don't worry about
flushing them.

At work, where we have two cats, I have a Fisher Price diaper disposal.
It's very basic and doesn't require any special bags or liners, just regular
old garbage bags.  I scoop clumps from the 4 litter boxes into a small
plastic bag, tie it closed and put it in the disposal.  I empty that
whenever it gets full, maybe every 3 weeks or so.

Other small cheap bags that work well for scooping are plastic food storage
bags you can find in any dollar store.  They have no ziplock seal or
anything, just a plain bag.  I get them 50 for $1, and they also work in the
little garbage can I have in my bathroom at home.  I only buy those if I
can't find my preferred bags, because I have had problems with the cheap
bags splitting as I was carrying it to the trash.  Having to clean up a pile
of litter-n-poop from my living room floor is worth spending a little more
than $1 for the bags.

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Liz
Arjun Ray - 24 Apr 2005 05:29 GMT
> I use World's Best Cat Litter, which is also flushable.  I do
> sometimes flush the clumps but try not to do it too much,
> because they keep sending notices around warning tenants not
> to flush any litter.

How likely are they to be checking the septic tank? ;-)

World's Best clumps tend to break up when immersed in water, so there's
really no danger of clogging the drains - unless, of course, you're
flushing truckloads every day.  The litterboxes are in my bathroom, so
whenever I use the john myself, it takes only a few seconds more to
clear the litterboxes too.  It isn't even a chore with flushable litter.    
-L. - 24 Apr 2005 06:48 GMT
> How likely are they to be checking the septic tank? ;-)
>
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> whenever I use the john myself, it takes only a few seconds more to
> clear the litterboxes too.  It isn't even a chore with flushable litter.

Hey Arjun - nice to see you again. :)

I have always been skeptical of flushable litters.  How long have you
been using/flushing WBCL with no ill effects?

-L.
Arjun Ray - 24 Apr 2005 14:53 GMT
>> World's Best clumps tend to break up when immersed in water, so
>> there's really no danger of clogging the drains

> I have always been skeptical of flushable litters.  How long have
> you been using/flushing WBCL with no ill effects?

Going on four years.  Even Scruffy's many softball size clumps weren't a
problem.  Back then, a 17-lb bag of WBCL lasted a little over two weeks;
so that was about 1 lb a day of litter being flushed.  Now, the daily
amount is much less.

Cheryl - 21 Apr 2005 03:46 GMT
> That's it. When I go to add clumps, I just put the bag edges
> over the trash can edges. When finished, twirl up the top of the
> bag and stick it down into the trash can. Works great so far.
> It's easy because I don't have to keep the stupid ziplock bag
> opening from getting in the way of incoming clumps. The wide
> opening makes it less messy also.

I use grocery store bags but I don't put them in anything. I just
scoop into them, and carry it out to the trash. They're free, so I
don't try to "fill" them. I did once have a situation where I ran
out of bags. I don't know how because these days I have way too
many. LOL I guess it depends on the checkout bagger. Some stores
have better bags for litter, though. Some just tear too easily and
they already have holes before groceries are taken out. With these,
I double bag. :)

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Cathy Friedmann - 21 Apr 2005 03:55 GMT
> > That's it. When I go to add clumps, I just put the bag edges
> > over the trash can edges. When finished, twirl up the top of the
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> they already have holes before groceries are taken out. With these,
> I double bag. :)

Heh - I now wonder how many people check for holes in their plastic grocery
bags.  When I put away groceries once I get them home, I look inside each
bag: no holes - good, will be used for scooped litter.  Any holes, into the
trash.

Cathy
Karen - 21 Apr 2005 03:59 GMT
>>> That's it. When I go to add clumps, I just put the bag edges
>>> over the trash can edges. When finished, twirl up the top of the
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>
> Cathy

Yup. I'm a hole peeper.
-L. - 21 Apr 2005 05:44 GMT
> Heh - I now wonder how many people check for holes in their plastic grocery
> bags.  When I put away groceries once I get them home, I look inside each
> bag: no holes - good, will be used for scooped litter.  Any holes, into the
> trash.
>
> Cathy

Yep.  :)  I hate using plastic of any kind but this is one area that I
do.  I line a bucket that has a sealing top with a grocery bag, scoop
into it, and then place the top on the bucket.  No stink - it's all
contained.  I throw the bag away every few days.

-L.
John Doe - 21 Apr 2005 06:56 GMT
"-L." <gentleboa@peacemail.com> wrote:
> Cathy Friedmann wrote:

>> Heh - I now wonder how many people check for holes in their
>> plastic grocery bags.  When I put away groceries once I get
>> them home, I look inside each bag: no holes - good, will be
>> used for scooped litter.  Any holes, into the trash.

> Yep.  :)  

Yup.

> I hate using plastic of any kind but this is one area
> that I do.  I line a bucket that has a sealing top with a
> grocery bag, scoop into it, and then place the top on the
> bucket.  No stink - it's all contained.  I throw the bag away
> every few days.

That sounds really easy. A very small bucket with a plastic bag
turned over the edges and a top. I guess it's time to move up on
the litter scooping hierarchy [playing].
Jennifer - 21 Apr 2005 15:38 GMT
> Any holes, into the
> trash.

You could take them back to the store with you next time and toss them
into the grocery bag recycling bin instead.  Most stores have them
these days, at least in my area.  I let mine collect in a drawer until
it's full, and take the whole batch in at once.

--
Jennifer
kitkat - 23 Apr 2005 03:47 GMT
>>>That's it. When I go to add clumps, I just put the bag edges
>>>over the trash can edges. When finished, twirl up the top of the
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Cathy

This is my method as well. Though I always double check the bag before
scooping as sometimes some bags with holes sneak into the grocery bag
sock. ;)

Pam
Cathy Friedmann - 23 Apr 2005 03:55 GMT
> >>I use grocery store bags but I don't put them in anything. I just
> >>scoop into them, and carry it out to the trash. They're free, so I
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> scooping as sometimes some bags with holes sneak into the grocery bag
> sock. ;)

Your husband is responsible for that happening, right? ;-P

Cathy

> Pam
kitkat - 23 Apr 2005 20:50 GMT
>>>>I use grocery store bags but I don't put them in anything. I just
>>>>scoop into them, and carry it out to the trash. They're free, so I
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>
> Cathy

Hell yeah! ;)
Mary - 23 Apr 2005 07:09 GMT
> >>>That's it. When I go to add clumps, I just put the bag edges
> >>>over the trash can edges. When finished, twirl up the top of the
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> scooping as sometimes some bags with holes sneak into the grocery bag
> sock. ;)

I just double the grocery store plastic bags--if holes, then they
at least have to be in the same place for there to be a leak. If no
holes, we're set!
sriddles@aol.com - 23 Apr 2005 07:38 GMT
> > This is my method as well. Though I always double check the bag before
> > scooping as sometimes some bags with holes sneak into the grocery bag
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> at least have to be in the same place for there to be a leak. If no
> holes, we're set!

Speaking of grocery-story plastic bags -- specifically Wal Mart bags --
does anybody else get sick of those things littering everywhere? Maybe
because we live near a lake road, I don't know--they're all over the
roadsides. We did yard work at the rental house today, across from the
elementary school--and they were all over the place there, too. My next
boycott is plastic bags. I swear. I'm going to start taking my own
muslin tote bags to the grocery store. I wish our stores recycled the
things, but they don't have a bin.
But then, I use them for poop-scooping, too. I think I"ll buy some of
the those paper lunch bags at the dollar store for that.

Sherry
Diane L. Schirf - 23 Apr 2005 10:12 GMT
> I'm going to start taking my own
> muslin tote bags to the grocery store.

I've been using those for about 15 years. They're great -- hold more
than plastic, are easy on the hands, and came in handy when I moved.

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Mary - 23 Apr 2005 20:22 GMT
> > > This is my method as well. Though I always double check the bag
> before
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> Speaking of grocery-story plastic bags -- specifically Wal Mart bags --
> does anybody else get sick of those things littering everywhere?

Yep. It is because they go airborne so easily. For example, when I
take my groceries out of my trunk, I might grab the handle of the
jug of distilled water and the bag flies away as I remove the jug
from the trunk. Then I have to chase it down.

Maybe
> because we live near a lake road, I don't know--they're all over the
> roadsides. We did yard work at the rental house today, across from the
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> But then, I use them for poop-scooping, too. I think I"ll buy some of
> the those paper lunch bags at the dollar store for that.

This might be a good idea. I like to ponder the world before
plastic. What it was like. What things were made of. I
love our old chrome and porcelain refrigerator in the
basement--glass shelves, chrome lever handle. I really
resented paying 1,500 for a new plastic one.
> Sherry
sriddles@aol.com - 23 Apr 2005 21:04 GMT
> This might be a good idea. I like to ponder the world before
> plastic. What it was like. What things were made of. I
> love our old chrome and porcelain refrigerator in the
> basement--glass shelves, chrome lever handle. I really
> resented paying 1,500 for a new plastic one.

Do you remember when straws were paper? And all fountain drinks were in
glass glasses, or paper cups if you ordered them "to go"? I hate all
the excess packaging now, too. Ice cream, milk, soda pop, nothing was
really sold in plastic jugs back then. I also remember having one
little lidded tin can full of trash per week--now I have a polycart on
wheels, four feet tall, FULL every week.
I also hate how you can't get anything repaired any more....toasters,
curling irons, hair dryers, even microwaves cost less to "buy a new
one" than to repair. I remember my mom having our furniture recovered
instead of ever buying a new sofa/chair.
Sorry for the OT. Guess I'm feeling a little Earth Motherish today.

Sherry
Diane L. Schirf - 23 Apr 2005 21:53 GMT
> > This might be a good idea. I like to ponder the world before
> > plastic. What it was like. What things were made of. I
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>
> Do you remember when straws were paper?

I do, and wish I could find some! (I haven't looked online, but I mean
around here.)

> And all fountain drinks were in
> glass glasses, or paper cups if you ordered them "to go"? I hate all
> the excess packaging now, too. Ice cream, milk, soda pop, nothing was
> really sold in plastic jugs back then.

Our cooperative grocery store carries milk in glass bottles which have
become very popular. The organic milk comes in plastic, but I can put it
into recycling at least. I can't believe how much better organic milk
tastes (and it lasts longer, oddly enough -- stays fresh).

> Sorry for the OT. Guess I'm feeling a little Earth Motherish today.

Earth Day was yesterday. :)

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sriddles@aol.com - 24 Apr 2005 04:52 GMT
> > > This might be a good idea. I like to ponder the world before
> > > plastic. What it was like. What things were made of. I
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> become very popular. The organic milk comes in plastic, but I can put it
> into recycling at least. I can't believe how much better organic milk

> tastes (and it lasts longer, oddly enough -- stays fresh).
>
> > Sorry for the OT. Guess I'm feeling a little Earth Motherish today.
>
> Earth Day was yesterday. :)

Ha! That figures. I'm always behind the curve.

RE: Organic milk. There was a local dairy started supplying the grocery
here with milk in glass bottles. I don't remember the milk being
labeled as organic though, I assumed it was just regular homogenized
milk but in a glass bottle. I thought it was pretty neat, and bought it
regularly, but they went out of business in less than a year.  Do you
know what makes milk organic by definition?

Sherry
Diane L. Schirf - 24 Apr 2005 07:35 GMT
> Do you
> know what makes milk organic by definition?

See "Our Promise to You." Their milk is USDA-certified organic. And
really, really good. (Expensive, but I'm single and can afford it.)

<http://www.organicvalley.com/products_recipes/products.html?cat=1>

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-L. - 24 Apr 2005 08:32 GMT
> See "Our Promise to You." Their milk is USDA-certified organic. And
> really, really good. (Expensive, but I'm single and can afford it.)
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I love their milk. :)  Also, whole milk lasts a lot longer than skim.
I was surprised when we started to buy whole for DS at how long it
actually lasts.

-L.
-L. - 24 Apr 2005 08:22 GMT
> Do you remember when straws were paper? And all fountain drinks were in
> glass glasses, or paper cups if you ordered them "to go"? I hate all
> the excess packaging now, too. Ice cream, milk, soda pop, nothing was
> really sold in plastic jugs back then. I also remember having one
> little lidded tin can full of trash per week--now I have a polycart on
> wheels, four feet tall, FULL every week.

Geez...don't you have curbside recycling?  Or is that in addition to
your curbside recycling?  Here, all we have to sort out is glass.  I
have very little true trash.

In Indianapolis, they burn the city trash for fuel.  It's actually a
clean incinerator, too.

> I also hate how you can't get anything repaired any more....toasters,
> curling irons, hair dryers, even microwaves cost less to "buy a new
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>
> Sherry

LOL..yeah.  I missed our Earth Day event.  I was out with my eye. :(

They design things to be "throw away" nowdays.  DH used to work for IBM
years ago and they gave this guy a huge award for building in
"obsoleteness" into one of their products. (This was before computers
were an every-day-every-household item.)  It was about that time that
he quit.

-L.
Brandy Alexandre - 21 Apr 2005 03:49 GMT
John Doe <jdoe@usenet.love.invalid> wrote in
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> I have been using 1 gallon ziplock plastic bags for years to put
> clumps of litter in before taking the whole bag to the trash.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> but it will hold plenty. I had to carry the ziplock bag by the
> bottom anyway.

I've always used grocery bags.  I have a grocery bag "sock" that I
ball them up into and I can pull them out one at a time.  The bag
stays open well enough for me to dump clumps into.  Then I just spin
it closed and toss it.  I do have to inspect bags before they go into
the sock, though.  I've gotten a few with holes in them.

You know, it's weird what grosses one out and what doesn't.  I have
no problem dealing with litter and everything else the cat manages to
do, but one thing that gives me heebees is soap dispenser "boogers."  
Go figure.

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Janet B - 21 Apr 2005 12:36 GMT
Arm & Hammer Easy Flush.  Flushes easily w/no problem.  Crystals which
don't need flushing or frequent disposal in another box.  I flush dog
waste scooped from the yard too.  Helps to have a toilet pretty much
dedicated to this task!

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blueberries79 - 21 Apr 2005 13:02 GMT
> I have been using 1 gallon ziplock plastic bags for years to put
> clumps of litter in before taking the whole bag to the trash.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> it will hold plenty. I had to carry the ziplock bag by the bottom
> anyway.

How often should you change the complete box of litter?  I notice no matter
how well I scoop, the remaining litter always seems a little 'used'
especially when I poar a little more on top to replace what I just scooped.
It makes me want to just replace the entire box of litter every time.  We
have two cats, a 11lb cutie and a 17lb giant fur ball : )
Janet B - 21 Apr 2005 13:10 GMT
>How often should you change the complete box of litter?  I notice no matter
>how well I scoop, the remaining litter always seems a little 'used'
>especially when I poar a little more on top to replace what I just scooped.
>It makes me want to just replace the entire box of litter every time.  We
>have two cats, a 11lb cutie and a 17lb giant fur ball : )

It varies.  I completely empty the box dependent on how "used" it
looks - liner torn or coming up, litter not scooping out as easily
(usually if I didn't refill the box regularly enough), any flaw in
cleanliness basically.  That's no more often than every other week,
but frequently less frequent.  I clean the area around the boxes (I
have a total of 4 boxes for 2 cats) regularly and make it as inviting
as possible.  Both cats use the boxes, only one of them sometimes uses
elsewhere as well (the ongoing battle to solve that issue!).

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dgk - 21 Apr 2005 15:33 GMT
>I have been using 1 gallon ziplock plastic bags for years to put
>clumps of litter in before taking the whole bag to the trash.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>it will hold plenty. I had to carry the ziplock bag by the bottom
>anyway.

I have a big old (5 gallon?) round green container with a white top
that was originally filled with White Castle pickle slices. I line it
with a new kitchen garbage bag and fill it maybe halfway to the top.
Then I tie it off, put it in an old grocery bag (small holes are ok),
and put it in the garbage. The sanitation guys complain if cat litter
isn't double-bagged. Prima donnas but I understand. It is the only
thing that I use new plastic bags for.

I have two garbages in the kitchen. A small one is for wet or
potentially smelly garbage. That one I use doublelined with two old
grocery bags, both checked for holes by blowing them up by mouth and
squeezing to see if they leak. The large one is for stuff that is
unlikely to smell and that uses bigger old bags and can sit for a week
or two before joining the trash.

Food scraps of other than meat stuff goes into the compost heap.
 
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