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Brandy Alexandre - 20 Apr 2005 22:09 GMT
My cubicle neighbor found a kitten that is about two or three days old.  
She's going to try to raise it and if anyone has any advice or
encouraging words, I'd like to pass them along.

She said she saw the kitten in the grass and decided to watch for a bit
in case the mother was moving kittens in stages.  After more than 30
minutes and no mama cat, she picked it up and took it to the vet to get
it checked out and get some supplies.  The kitten apparently had fly
eggs on it already, so it was probably alone for a while.  She said it
won't take the bottle, but she's using a syringe.  She said he had a
little cough and I'm concerned about pnuemonia, but the vet probably
would have heard that.  The vet did tell her his chances weren't great,
but she wants to try.  Advice appreciated.

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sriddles@aol.com - 20 Apr 2005 22:24 GMT
Brandy Alexandre wrote:
> My cubicle neighbor found a kitten that is about two or three days old.
> She's going to try to raise it and if anyone has any advice or
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> --
> Brandy  Alexandre®

There are some how-to websites on raising orphan kittens, so I'll just
pass along a couple of things. Her vet I'm assuming probably already
gave her some tips. One important thing is, tell her not to hold the
kitten on its back to syringe-feed it. Try to copy the position when a
kitten nurses naturally--it will lessen the chance the kitten will
inhale milk into its lungs. It will need to be stimulated manually to
poop after it eats. You just get a paper towel or gloved finger and
rub, like the mother kitten was grooming it. There are "surrogate"
mother cats available at Petsmart--it is a stuffed cat with a
heartbeat. Tell your friend good luck with the kitten. They really are
tougher than they look. It isn't hard to raise an orphan kitten.

Sherry
Cheryl - 21 Apr 2005 00:45 GMT
On Wed 20 Apr 2005 05:24:44p,  wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav
(news:1114032284.182514.158620@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com):

>  Tell your friend good luck with the kitten. They really are
> tougher than they look.

We're sending our good luck vibes to your friend too, Brandy!  

Sherry, I was thinking that even at ~8 weeks they are tough to raise,
but then I got your meaning correctly. (rough day!) With Scarlett, it
was tough to get meat on her bones because she was such a picky
eater, and then all her problems with the URIs and the spay suture
reaction. I don't think I want to raise kittens anymore. However,
I've enjoyed the experience. I don't think I'd have the patience or
the time for the newborn Brandy's friend has rescued.

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Brandy Alexandre - 21 Apr 2005 01:03 GMT
Cheryl <jlhshadow@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> On Wed 20 Apr 2005 05:24:44p,  wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav
> (news:1114032284.182514.158620@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com):
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> have the patience or the time for the newborn Brandy's friend has
> rescued.

I know I couldn't do, but she's getting up in the night and feeding him
every two or three hours.  He seems to let her know when he's hungry.  
I thought maybe the cough was because she was feeding him on his back,
but she said she's not.  She also has a heating pad with a lot of
padding so it doesn't get too warm.  She's going to look for the
surrogate maybe in a week just to make sure he's going to survive.

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Cheryl - 21 Apr 2005 02:44 GMT
> I know I couldn't do, but she's getting up in the night and
> feeding him every two or three hours.  He seems to let her know
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> She's going to look for the surrogate maybe in a week just to
> make sure he's going to survive.

It sounds like she's doing a good job. Kudos to her, and some extra
luck to the baby.

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Brandy Alexandre - 21 Apr 2005 03:38 GMT
Cheryl <jlhshadow@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

>> I know I couldn't do, but she's getting up in the night and
>> feeding him every two or three hours.  He seems to let her know
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> It sounds like she's doing a good job. Kudos to her, and some extra
> luck to the baby.

Well, they are the "cat people" in their neighborhood.  They don't
foster or have any pets, but her mother is always feeding a half dozen
or so cats at any given time.  She's thinking about trap and release to
get some of them spayed because she said she saw three pregnant at one
time, but then never saw any kittens.  

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BarB - 21 Apr 2005 15:51 GMT
>Cheryl <jlhshadow@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in
>rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>padding so it doesn't get too warm.  She's going to look for the
>surrogate maybe in a week just to make sure he's going to survive.

A plastic drink bottle filled with warm water and stuffed in an old
sock makes a good surrogate momcat.

Watch that cough, kittens can go down fast. I'd be thinking about
calling the vet and putting it on a drop of Clavamox. That's what I
do for the whole litter the minute one starts coughing. Listen to
it's breathing. If it's noisy/ rasping, it may have pneumonia.

Watch the eyes. If one is glued shut, get eye ointment immediately.
Cherry eye is a common problem with feral/strays. I just had to have
an eye removed from a kitten who came to us too late.

There are recipes for formula on several web sites. If I'm
supplementing a poorly kitten, I use the powdered formula and add an
egg yolk, a little brown sugar, and liquid vitamins.

BarB
sriddles@aol.com - 21 Apr 2005 04:26 GMT
> On Wed 20 Apr 2005 05:24:44p,  wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav
> (news:1114032284.182514.158620@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com):
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Sherry, I was thinking that even at ~8 weeks they are tough to raise,

> but then I got your meaning correctly. (rough day!) With Scarlett, it

> was tough to get meat on her bones because she was such a picky
> eater, and then all her problems with the URIs and the spay suture
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> --
> Cheryl

Oh, I don't mean it's easy to raise them, or that some of them don't
die no matter how hard you try. But we always had pretty good luck. We
had four kittens abandoned once that still had their umbilical cords.
You have to get up in the night and feed just like newborn babies. I
wish I had a pic. That was pre-digital camera. Domino, Angel, Purrcy
and Callie. I still think about them sometimes and wonder about them.
It's the ones you get at the shelter that are 3 weeks or so old, that
already have flea anemia or coccidia that it seems like have a horrible
mortality rate. Seems like it's easier to raise a healthy newborn than
a 3-6 week-old that's in bad shape.
Sherry

Sherry
-L. - 21 Apr 2005 01:01 GMT
sridd...@aol.com wrote:

> There are some how-to websites on raising orphan kittens, so I'll just
> pass along a couple of things. Her vet I'm assuming probably already
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Sherry

They have to be kept warm or they can't digest the milk.  A hearting
pad set on low under 4 layers of toweling in a carrier works well, but
you have to make sure they don't get too hot.  They need to be fed
every 2-3 hours around the clock.  I'm assuming a vet already told the
OP all of this.  Single orphaned kittens usually do not survive.  If
you can get it to anyone else who has kittens of similar age, it will
have a much better chance.

-L.
elocs - 21 Apr 2005 02:40 GMT
Brandy Alexandre wrote:

>My cubicle neighbor found a kitten that is
> about two or three days old. She's going
> to try to raise it and if anyone has any
> advice or encouraging words, I'd like to
> pass them along.


>She said she saw the kitten in the grass
> and decided to watch for a bit in case
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> weren't great, but she wants to try.
> Advice appreciated.

>Brandy Alexandre®

This is almost exactly how I found my first cat back in October of 1975.
I was waiting at a friend's house, waiting for him to get there, and
when he arrived he said he saw a small kitten alongside the street near
the Mississippi River bridge.  He did not pick it up because he said his
tom cat would kill it.  I went to check it out and it had probably been
15 or 20 minutes since he had seen it.  It was very small, fit in the
palm of my hand, and its eyes were not open.  I did not know what to do,
so I took it to the vet.  He thought the kitten was maybe 3 days old and
it was covered with fleas.  He used flea spray on his hands to cover the
kitten's body.  Then I took it home with his recommendations.

I gave it KMR replacement milk every few hours in a small bottle made
for that purpose.  I kept it in a small box with a heating pad on the
bottom with a towel over it.  I learned I would have to stimulate it to
have a bowel movement, so I did this while holding its bottom under
lukewarm running water while stimulating with a q-tip.  Then I would dry
it off, put it in an old sock and shake it down to keep it moving.  Then
it was back into the box with an alarm clock until the next feeding.

I looked at the kitten's bottom to determine the gender and figured it
was a male so I named it "Ali" because he had to be a fighter to
survive.  After about a week his eyes opened and the first thing he did
when he had his legs and was out of the box was to head for the
litterbox, and so that part was over.  I had a beagle who had never yet
seen the kitten.  This dog was wild about cats, but had never seen one
up close.  When Ali came out and saw the dog, never having seen a cat, I
am sure he wondered, is this mom?  So he started after the dog, who was
totally bewildered by this creature, and the beagle went and hid under a
chair.  Ali had the upper had there and never gave it up.

Ali never saw another cat until I took him to be neutered.  I think he
though he was a dog.  While he was at the vet clinic I got a call from
them telling me they could not do the operation I wanted because "he"
was a "she".  I was duly embarrassed, but they said trying to sex
kittens at 3 days old is difficult.  It was even worse for me since I
worked at my city's zoo and took a razzing from my fellow employees.

Ali survived all of that and was queen of her kingdom.  She travelled
with me in my car, riding on the back of the front seat where she could
scope out everything, once travelling from Wisconsin to Florida and back
again.  She lived just a few months short of 20 years and I used what I
learned from raising her from a near newborn on other baby animals with
great results.  So it can work out great.
CatNipped - 21 Apr 2005 03:17 GMT
Brandy Alexandre wrote:

>My cubicle neighbor found a kitten that is
> about two or three days old. She's going
> to try to raise it and if anyone has any
> advice or encouraging words, I'd like to
> pass them along.

>She said she saw the kitten in the grass
> and decided to watch for a bit in case
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> weren't great, but she wants to try.
> Advice appreciated.

--
>Brandy Alexandre®

This is almost exactly how I found my first cat back in October of 1975.
I was waiting at a friend's house, waiting for him to get there, and
when he arrived he said he saw a small kitten alongside the street near
the Mississippi River bridge.  He did not pick it up because he said his
tom cat would kill it.  I went to check it out and it had probably been
15 or 20 minutes since he had seen it.  It was very small, fit in the
palm of my hand, and its eyes were not open.  I did not know what to do,
so I took it to the vet.  He thought the kitten was maybe 3 days old and
it was covered with fleas.  He used flea spray on his hands to cover the
kitten's body.  Then I took it home with his recommendations.

I gave it KMR replacement milk every few hours in a small bottle made
for that purpose.  I kept it in a small box with a heating pad on the
bottom with a towel over it.  I learned I would have to stimulate it to
have a bowel movement, so I did this while holding its bottom under
lukewarm running water while stimulating with a q-tip.  Then I would dry
it off, put it in an old sock and shake it down to keep it moving.  Then
it was back into the box with an alarm clock until the next feeding.

I looked at the kitten's bottom to determine the gender and figured it
was a male so I named it "Ali" because he had to be a fighter to
survive.  After about a week his eyes opened and the first thing he did
when he had his legs and was out of the box was to head for the
litterbox, and so that part was over.  I had a beagle who had never yet
seen the kitten.  This dog was wild about cats, but had never seen one
up close.  When Ali came out and saw the dog, never having seen a cat, I
am sure he wondered, is this mom?  So he started after the dog, who was
totally bewildered by this creature, and the beagle went and hid under a
chair.  Ali had the upper had there and never gave it up.

Ali never saw another cat until I took him to be neutered.  I think he
though he was a dog.  While he was at the vet clinic I got a call from
them telling me they could not do the operation I wanted because "he"
was a "she".  I was duly embarrassed, but they said trying to sex
kittens at 3 days old is difficult.  It was even worse for me since I
worked at my city's zoo and took a razzing from my fellow employees.

Ali survived all of that and was queen of her kingdom.  She travelled
with me in my car, riding on the back of the front seat where she could
scope out everything, once travelling from Wisconsin to Florida and back
again.  She lived just a few months short of 20 years and I used what I
learned from raising her from a near newborn on other baby animals with
great results.  So it can work out great.

What a great story!  Bless your heart for caring for a little foundling so
well!

Hugs,

CatNipped
mlbriggs - 21 Apr 2005 03:18 GMT
> Brandy Alexandre wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>> chances weren't great, but she wants to try.
>> Advice appreciated.

Congratulations on a great story.   MLB
Cathy Friedmann - 21 Apr 2005 03:34 GMT
This is almost exactly how I found my first cat back in October of 1975.
I was waiting at a friend's house, waiting for him to get there, and
when he arrived he said he saw a small kitten alongside the street near
the Mississippi River bridge.  He did not pick it up because he said his
tom cat would kill it.  I went to check it out and it had probably been
15 or 20 minutes since he had seen it.  It was very small, fit in the
palm of my hand, and its eyes were not open.  I did not know what to do,
so I took it to the vet.  He thought the kitten was maybe 3 days old and
it was covered with fleas.  He used flea spray on his hands to cover the
kitten's body.  Then I took it home with his recommendations.

<snipped>
She lived just a few months short of 20 years and I used what I
learned from raising her from a near newborn on other baby animals with
great results.  So it can work out great.

Wonderful success story of Ali the tiny kitten to elderly cat!

Cathy
John Ross Mc Master - 21 Apr 2005 00:12 GMT
>My cubicle neighbor found a kitten that is about two or three days old.  
>She's going to try to raise it and if anyone has any advice or
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>would have heard that.  The vet did tell her his chances weren't great,
>but she wants to try.  Advice appreciated.

Thats awfully young. Stick with the feline milk subtitute in the
syringe, then bottle, then mix the milk and wet food at about 4 weeks.
I could be off a bit on the six weeks.

I raised my Cinder from 3 weeks of age.
Keep the kitten WARM. Plenty of light blankets/towels.They loose heat
really easily at that age.
John Ross Mc Master - 21 Apr 2005 00:16 GMT
>My cubicle neighbor found a kitten that is about two or three days old.  
>She's going to try to raise it and if anyone has any advice or
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>would have heard that.  The vet did tell her his chances weren't great,
>but she wants to try.  Advice appreciated.

Silghtly corrected reply...

Thats awfully young. Stick with the feline milk subtitute in the
syringe, then bottle, then mix the milk and wet food at about 4 weeks.
I could be off a bit on the 4 weeks.

I raised my Cinder from 3 weeks of age.
Keep the kitten WARM. Plenty of light blankets/towels.They loose heat
really easily at that age.
zuzu22@webtv.net - 21 Apr 2005 03:16 GMT
Send this link to your friend. It's one of the best guides for caring
for newborn/abandoned kittens I've found:
http://kittenrescue.org/handbook.htm

Megan

                                   
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