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CatNipped - 18 Apr 2005 00:28 GMT
I was putting away my winter coats into the (seldom used) closet under the
stairs earlier today.  A few hours later I noticed Sammy sitting in front of
this closet staring at the door.  I didn't think anything of it and went
about my business.  A little while later I passed by and Sammy was still
there.  A few minutes ago I passed by again and she was still there - had
not moved a muscle in almost two hours - so I opened the door to see what
she had cornered and Jessie came running out.

Now, Sammy was not playing "paws" under the door with Jessie.  She was just
laying there staring at the door.

Have any of you witnessed this type of behavior between "siblings" when one
is distressed, trapped somewhere, or in some kind of trouble?

--
Hugs,

CatNipped
http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/
Catherine - 18 Apr 2005 01:01 GMT
One of my cats sometimes gets herself trapped in the cabinet under the
bathroom sink.  She noses open one of the doors and then can't get back
out.  When this happens, another cat (her cohort) calls the alert for me to
come get her out.
Wayne Mitchell - 18 Apr 2005 04:45 GMT

Hello, everyone.  My first message in the group.

>Now, Sammy was not playing "paws" under the door with Jessie.  She was just
>laying there staring at the door.
>
>Have any of you witnessed this type of behavior between "siblings" when one
>is distressed, trapped somewhere, or in some kind of trouble?

I don't suppose it's all that rare, though my own story is a
little different, in that the free cat didn't actually point out
her sister's location.

A while back we had two who were litter mates whom we raised
from kittens.  They were quite independent and didn't stick
close to us except at night.  But when they were young, Zubie
sometimes would come around and be persistently under foot and
needing attention.  We always knew that was a sign that we
should check the closets, Dad's recliner, the cellar, etc. to
see where Flicka had gotten herself trapped.

And speaking of staring at the door, here's another story about
that pair:

When they were still little enough so that going upstairs on
their own was a struggle, we had occasion to close off for a
while one of the downstairs rooms which was normally a permitted
space for them.  Zubie discovered the change at a time when
Flicka happened to be upstairs.  First, she sat down by herself
and tried to stare the door open, as cats are wont to do, with
that look we all know, compounded of incredulity, disgust and
the expectation that the error will be promptly corrected.  When
that didn't work, she looked around for her sister and finally
made the long trek up the stairs to find her and bring her down
-- round trip perhaps fifteen minutes.  She showed Flicka what
the problem was, and the two sat down together to stare that
door into submission.

Curiously, as adults the two didn't get along well at all.  They
would frequently hiss as they passed each other, and seldom
spent much time in the same room except when eating.

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CatNipped - 18 Apr 2005 13:50 GMT
> Hello, everyone.  My first message in the group.

Welcome Wayne!

>>Now, Sammy was not playing "paws" under the door with Jessie.  She was
>>just
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> should check the closets, Dad's recliner, the cellar, etc. to
> see where Flicka had gotten herself trapped.

Just like little feline Lassies!  ;>

> And speaking of staring at the door, here's another story about
> that pair:
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> the problem was, and the two sat down together to stare that
> door into submission.

Too cute!  Man, if double kitten stares didn't do it, that must have been
one recalcitrant door!!!

Hugs,

CatNipped

> Curiously, as adults the two didn't get along well at all.  They
> would frequently hiss as they passed each other, and seldom
> spent much time in the same room except when eating.
CATacombs - 18 Apr 2005 14:33 GMT
Welcome Wayne!!

Here's some background reading to help familiarize you with this group..

http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/cat-health/4874/Apology

http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/cat-health/4964/Apologies-to-William-S

http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/cat-health/4848/Outdoor-cat-poisoning-
report-back
Wayne Mitchell - 18 Apr 2005 23:56 GMT
>Welcome Wayne!!
>
>Here's some background reading to help familiarize you with this group..

Thanks.  Loved the Shakespaw.

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Wayne M.

Nidera Pidera - 18 Apr 2005 17:29 GMT
>Have any of you witnessed this type of behavior between "siblings" when one
>is distressed, trapped somewhere, or in some kind of trouble?

This type of question will get a better response in a more appropriate newsgroup.
I realize you're discussing behavior in general, but according to charter, this
group is for discussing behavior as it relates to health.  It's not for "cute cat
stories and fun questions."

A copy of the charter may be found in many places on the net such as
http://www.fanciers.com/cat-faqs/rpc-charters.shtml
http://ratcliffe.org/cats/reorg.shtml

Thanks.
THE Net Nanny.

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Pidera

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CATacombs - 18 Apr 2005 18:26 GMT
"Nidera Pidera" ?

"this newsgroup is not for fun questions and cute cat stories"??

Who are you and where did you beam in from? I guess you haven't been
reading any of the other posts for the past 4 years..
Nidera Pidera - 18 Apr 2005 19:03 GMT
>"this newsgroup is not for fun questions and cute cat stories"??
>
>Who are you and where did you beam in from? I guess you haven't been
>reading any of the other posts for the past 4 years..

I am Nidera Pidera -- THE Net Nanny.  I thought I had said that.

No, I haven't been around for the past four years.  Only for the last couple of
weeks reading through a backlog of posts.  It seemed to me that most people tried
to stay on topic, or at least included an off topic notation in the subject.  Ms.
Catnipped did say  that she was new to Usenet, and I thought that perhaps she was
unaware that newsgroups do have charters that are meant to be followed to make
newsgroups more useful and enjoyable for all.    I didn't see where anyone had
posted a link to the charter, so I thought I would.

As far as where I beamed in from, I don't beam.  I'm an old-fashioned sort a girl.
A high-speed broomstick would be more my style.

Thank you for asking.

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Pidera

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CATacombs - 18 Apr 2005 19:20 GMT
Well, I visited http://www.netnanny.com/ and didn't find anything on your
name, I did a Yahoo search on your name and didn't find anything about you
anywhere on the net..

Are you associated with Google Groups?

www.catkb.com?

Or does typing "THE" instead of "The" in front of "Net Nanny" confer some
sort of status on you that people are just supposed to accept sight unseen?
Mary - 18 Apr 2005 20:03 GMT
> Well, I visited http://www.netnanny.com/ and didn't find anything on your
> name, I did a Yahoo search on your name and didn't find anything about you
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Or does typing "THE" instead of "The" in front of "Net Nanny" confer some
> sort of status on you that people are just supposed to accept sight unseen?

Please do not encourage this fool. :)
CATacombs - 18 Apr 2005 20:20 GMT
Oh..so there is no Nidera Pidera...Just someone with a vendetta against
Catnipped.

There was nothing in that post that came close in off-topic compared with
anything else that has been seen here. Don't know why Catnipped is being
singled out for abuse.

Mary, you had no problem with the 2005 Diva awards post......

But of course, they included YOU........

http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/cat-health/4909/And-the-2005-Health-and-
Behavior-Diva-Nominees-Are
Mary - 18 Apr 2005 20:38 GMT
> Oh..so there is no Nidera Pidera...Just someone with a vendetta against
> Catnipped.

Righhhht.

> There was nothing in that post that came close in off-topic compared with
> anything else that has been seen here. Don't know why Catnipped is being
> singled out for abuse.

I do!

> Mary, you had no problem with the 2005 Diva awards post......
>
> But of course, they included YOU........

http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/cat-health/4909/And-the-2005-Health-and-
> Behavior-Diva-Nominees-Are

Are you trying to make sense?
Nidera Pidera - 18 Apr 2005 21:36 GMT
>Oh..so there is no Nidera Pidera...Just someone with a vendetta against
>Catnipped.
>
>There was nothing in that post that came close in off-topic compared with
>anything else that has been seen here. Don't know why Catnipped is being
>singled out for abuse.

Of course there is a Nidera Pidera just as much as there is a CATacombs or a Mary.
No different.  I have no association with Netnanny.com, Google groups, nor CatKB.
I am just another Usenet user such as everyone else here.

I'm not really trying to single out Catnipped, nor am I trying to abuse her.  I'm
sure she is a fine lady.  I just didn't think she understood why stories about the
cute things her cats do are more appropriate to the .anecdote group. I didn't get
the idea that she thought there was anything wrong with either of the cats
involved, just that she thought it humorous and interesting.

I really don't care about the off-topic posts except that it seemed there were
some very knowledgeable people in this group that they were bothering, and it
would be a shame if they left the group due to excessive chatter leaving this
another anecdotal group.
.
I did check  out the anecdote group this afternoon  and found that she had
already posted the same story there.. <shrug>   I apologize if I have offended.  I
was only trying to inform.

Last but certainly not least, yes, you should take my word for it when I say I am
THE Net Nanny.

Or maybe not.

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Mary - 18 Apr 2005 21:59 GMT
> >Oh..so there is no Nidera Pidera...Just someone with a vendetta against
> >Catnipped.
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> sure she is a fine lady.  I just didn't think she understood why stories about the
> cute things her cats do are more appropriate to the .anecdote group.

They aren't.
CATacombs - 18 Apr 2005 22:29 GMT
Now that makes GOOD SENSE. Now I see what you are talking about.

You're right, anecdotes should be separated out from cat issues that are
more serious.

In the meantime, why don't they give Mary her own forum.

or...How about her own website?
Mary - 18 Apr 2005 23:00 GMT
> Now that makes GOOD SENSE. Now I see what you are talking about.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> or...How about her own website?

Nobody can tell who you are talking to. Try a web search
on "Usenet." CatKB is a portal out of the web and into
Usenet.
Wayne Mitchell - 18 Apr 2005 23:56 GMT
>Well, I visited http://www.netnanny.com/ and didn't find anything on your
>name, I did a Yahoo search on your name and didn't find anything about you
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Or does typing "THE" instead of "The" in front of "Net Nanny" confer some
>sort of status on you that people are just supposed to accept sight unseen?

Howsomever...Neither the identity nor the posting history of a
message's author actually affects the quality of information in
the message.  If it's good information, it's good information --
and this was good information.  The charter, now that I see it,
does specifically discourage cute cat stories.

I've been lurking for a while, but as you note, off-charter
messages aren't always flagged and discouraged within the group.
So an occasional message pointing to the charter for this group
and it's sister groups can only be a good thing.

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Wayne M.

Cheryl - 19 Apr 2005 00:09 GMT
On Mon 18 Apr 2005 06:56:05p, Wayne Mitchell wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:fje861ld5ro24jfmgdtebol9rpsqa8l56t@
4ax.com):

> I've been lurking for a while, but as you note, off-charter
> messages aren't always flagged and discouraged within the group.
> So an occasional message pointing to the charter for this group
> and it's sister groups can only be a good thing.

They're not flagged because if you do, you're forever on the resident
"free speech fanatic's" shitlist and your posts will be forever
humped, you'll be stalked through Google for your posting history,
and lies will be made up about you. Do yourself a favor and just
ignore the OT if you don't like it. And ignore "Mary". LOL

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Cheryl

"The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited
breath."
- W.C. Fields

Mary - 19 Apr 2005 00:18 GMT
> On Mon 18 Apr 2005 06:56:05p, Wayne Mitchell wrote in
> rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:fje861ld5ro24jfmgdtebol9rpsqa8l56t@
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> humped, you'll be stalked through Google for your posting history,
> and lies will be made up about you.

I have never lied about you! You insisted that I must be "someone else"
and Googled my posting history for months, coming up with nothing,
then I happened to mention that I remembered you from your
posts in alt.hackers.malicious and other troll groups. I never even
Googled you! If you don't want people to know you posted
in those groups, you could at least change your email so that
you are not identified with them. (It was jlh@petitmorte.net .)
You're still mad because you got, as your troll buds say, "spanked."
lol

>Do yourself a favor and just
> ignore the OT if you don't like it.

The behavior of cats is not off-topic in rec.pets.cats.health+behav.
The charter does not say what "netnanny" said it did. CN's
asking if anyone else's cat behaves like her cat in a certain
way is absolutely on-topic. "Wayne" and anyone else can
post their little hearts out about what they would like to see
here. And everyone who wants to post here may post whatever
they like. Charters are only suggestions.

And ignore "Mary". LOL

Still the control freak. Poor Cheryl.
 
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