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Charlie Wilkes - 17 Apr 2005 04:30 GMT
The pregnant cat showed up right after I set the trap.  I watched her
inspect it and approach the bait, nearly tripping the lever a couple
of times but backing off.   Then something startled her, causing her
to back out abruptly at an angle, jostling the trap enough to spring
it and bonk her on the head but not capture her.  She bolted like a
streak toward the open end of the skirting and into the woods.

Charlie
zuzu22@webtv.net - 17 Apr 2005 05:10 GMT
>Then something startled her, causing her
>to back out abruptly at an angle, jostling
>the trap enough to spring it and bonk her
>on the head but not capture her. She
>bolted like a streak toward the open end
>of the skirting and into the woods.

That sucks, but don't worry. It happens sometimes. What you can do is
move the trap (it doesn't have to be far, just a few feet)) and
camouflage it so it looks a bit different. Make sure it is on level
ground and not easily jostled. Also put a lengthwise folded newspaper in
the bottom so it's covering the trip plate. That is done so the cat
can't see it and step over it.

Don't leave any food out other than what's in the trap, and make sure it
is something *very* smelly. Her hunger is going to get the best of her,
so be patient. Although rare, I've had this happen where the trap was
tripped (hairtrigger latch) before the cat was in and scared away the
cat I was trying to get but, despite the setback, I always got them
eventually.

Keep a positive mindset and don't give up. If, after a few days, you
haven't caught her you can do a desensitization trial and still catch
her, which is what I did to catch a feral that had been caught once
before and was afraid of traps. It took a little over a week. I used
canned mackeral and started by leaving the trap out with the door tied
up using a bungee cord. I stared by putting the food about a foot away
from the trap. I continued to do so until I was certain the cat was
eating it. Each day I moved the food closer and then gradually inside
the trap. When I saw that the cat was eating the food when it was in the
trap, I then moved the food all the way to the back of the trap, untied
then door and set it so it would spring. I got the cat that night.
Hopefully you will be able to catch her before she has her babies
without having to try this, but if not you still have a workable option.

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Mary - 17 Apr 2005 05:19 GMT
> The pregnant cat showed up right after I set the trap.  I watched her
> inspect it and approach the bait, nearly tripping the lever a couple
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>
> Charlie

Oh no! After all you concern and effort, what a terrible thing.I hope she
comes back tomorrow, Charlie. I'm so sorry your first try turned out this
way.
Phil P. - 17 Apr 2005 07:48 GMT
> The pregnant cat showed up right after I set the trap.  I watched her
> inspect it and approach the bait, nearly tripping the lever a couple
> of times but backing off.   Then something startled her, causing her
> to back out abruptly at an angle, jostling the trap enough to spring
> it and bonk her on the head but not capture her.  She bolted like a
> streak toward the open end of the skirting and into the woods.

Charlie,

I've been very busy with my colonies- got a new 'Rambo' on the prowl- and a
couple of new problem cats at the shelter, so, I just saw your last two
posts.

Don't let the mis-trap get you down - Mistraps are pretty common with
first-time trappers and some traps are a little tricky to set the tension
just right.  This is why I generally don't recommend live traps for first
time trappers unless they have someone to show them how to set, position,
and camo the trap until the trapper has it down pat.

Sometimes (many times) when a cat is trapped or the trapping goes bad and
the cat escapes, the cat becomes trapwise and very difficult to trap again -
and yet some cats aren't fazed in the least by the experience.  If the cat
wasn't pregnant and due any minute, I'd say camouflage the trap and keep
trying - but don't you have the time to experiment and 'try this' and 'try
that' since she may be reluctant to 'go into' anything at this point.

Cats love and are naturally attracted to cardboard boxes and paper bags - so
sometimes I set the trap and put it back in the box it was shipped - or put
the trap in a large  30 gal brown paper lawn bag (Home Depot 6/$3.00) and
line the base and tripeplate with thin cardboard or newspaper or a piece of
another lawn bag.  If the trap is large, you may need to cut and splice a
piece of another lawn bag. This trick works with many trapwise cats.  But
like I said, I don't think you have the time to experiment.

As an alternative to a live trap you can use a drop trap.  A drop trap is
basically nothing more than a box (TV size) propped up 18-22" on one side(
with a stick with a cord attached to it.  The advantage of a drop trap is
that the cat doesn't have walk into a trap or into any enclosure - three
sides are wide open and she can clearly see open space all around her on
three sides - there's nothing to make her curious or cautious.  I've had
fantastic results with drop traps and trapwise cats. Its practically
fool-proof and you won't waste time by trapping other cats or animals that
you don't want.  Drop traps are the most selective trap there is.

Place the food close to back side - opposite the propped up side.  When she
goes for the bait - or even enters the drop zone - pull the cord attached to
the stick and the box will fall around her.  When I use drop traps, I tie a
5lb barbell plate to the top of the propped up side of the box to make the
box drop faster.  As an added inducement you can spray the box with catnip
spray or Feliway to mask your scent and ease her apprehension.  You can even
spray the area or sprinkle a catnip trail into the drop zone to lead her in.
I even spray my clothes!  Run the cord as far as you can or until you're out
of sight - but keep the cord taught so just a slight tug will dislodge the
stick and drop the box.

For bait you can use heated fish-based canned food - heated food is more
aromatic and the odor will not be stronger but it will also travel further.
You may laugh, but I and several other trappers have had excellent results
with Kentucky Fried Chicken (no bones) and/or freshly cooked bacon.  Not
many cats can resist KFC or bacon!

If I were you, I'd probably use both traps because its imperative that you
trap her before she has her kittens - otherwise, you may never find where
she's hidden them- and then those kittens will have more kittens.

Keep the faith!  You'll get her!

Phil
Suzie-Q - 17 Apr 2005 12:33 GMT
-> "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com> wrote in message
-> news:e8m361155n5ppq68j1o54apbqe1nv66m7v@4ax.com...
-> > The pregnant cat showed up right after I set the trap.  I watched her
-> > inspect it and approach the bait, nearly tripping the lever a couple
-> > of times but backing off.   Then something startled her, causing her
-> > to back out abruptly at an angle, jostling the trap enough to spring
-> > it and bonk her on the head but not capture her.  She bolted like a
-> > streak toward the open end of the skirting and into the woods.
-> >
->
-> Charlie,
->
-> I've been very busy with my colonies- got a new 'Rambo' on the prowl- and a
-> couple of new problem cats at the shelter, so, I just saw your last two
-> posts.
->
-> Don't let the mis-trap get you down - Mistraps are pretty common with
-> first-time trappers and some traps are a little tricky to set the tension
-> just right.  This is why I generally don't recommend live traps for first
-> time trappers unless they have someone to show them how to set, position,
-> and camo the trap until the trapper has it down pat.
->
-> Sometimes (many times) when a cat is trapped or the trapping goes bad and
-> the cat escapes, the cat becomes trapwise and very difficult to trap again -
-> and yet some cats aren't fazed in the least by the experience.  If the cat
-> wasn't pregnant and due any minute, I'd say camouflage the trap and keep
-> trying - but don't you have the time to experiment and 'try this' and 'try
-> that' since she may be reluctant to 'go into' anything at this point.
->
-> Cats love and are naturally attracted to cardboard boxes and paper bags - so
-> sometimes I set the trap and put it back in the box it was shipped - or put
-> the trap in a large  30 gal brown paper lawn bag (Home Depot 6/$3.00) and
-> line the base and tripeplate with thin cardboard or newspaper or a piece of
-> another lawn bag.  If the trap is large, you may need to cut and splice a
-> piece of another lawn bag. This trick works with many trapwise cats.  But
-> like I said, I don't think you have the time to experiment.
->
-> As an alternative to a live trap you can use a drop trap.  A drop trap is
-> basically nothing more than a box (TV size) propped up 18-22" on one side(
-> with a stick with a cord attached to it.  The advantage of a drop trap is
-> that the cat doesn't have walk into a trap or into any enclosure - three
-> sides are wide open and she can clearly see open space all around her on
-> three sides - there's nothing to make her curious or cautious.  I've had
-> fantastic results with drop traps and trapwise cats. Its practically
-> fool-proof and you won't waste time by trapping other cats or animals that
-> you don't want.  Drop traps are the most selective trap there is.
->
-> Place the food close to back side - opposite the propped up side.  When she
-> goes for the bait - or even enters the drop zone - pull the cord attached to
-> the stick and the box will fall around her.  When I use drop traps, I tie a
-> 5lb barbell plate to the top of the propped up side of the box to make the
-> box drop faster.  As an added inducement you can spray the box with catnip
-> spray or Feliway to mask your scent and ease her apprehension.  You can even
-> spray the area or sprinkle a catnip trail into the drop zone to lead her in.
-> I even spray my clothes!  Run the cord as far as you can or until you're out
-> of sight - but keep the cord taught so just a slight tug will dislodge the
-> stick and drop the box.
->
-> For bait you can use heated fish-based canned food - heated food is more
-> aromatic and the odor will not be stronger but it will also travel further.
-> You may laugh, but I and several other trappers have had excellent results
-> with Kentucky Fried Chicken (no bones) and/or freshly cooked bacon.  Not
-> many cats can resist KFC or bacon!
->
-> If I were you, I'd probably use both traps because its imperative that you
-> trap her before she has her kittens - otherwise, you may never find where
-> she's hidden them- and then those kittens will have more kittens.
->
-> Keep the faith!  You'll get her!
->
-> Phil

Phil, How do you get the cat out of the drop trap?
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Phil P. - 18 Apr 2005 14:33 GMT
"Suzie-Q" <sme617x@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:sme617x-

> Phil, How do you get the cat out of the drop trap?

Butt the vertical sliding door of the cage to the vertical sliding door of
the trap and open the doors. You might have to prod the cat s little with a
yardstick or broom handle.

http://www.maxshouse.com/Feral/Drop-trap-setup+transfer%20copy.jpg

If you're using a cardboard box trap, cut out an opening the same size as
the cage door and tape a piece of cardboard larger than the opening over the
opening with duct tape.  Butt the sliding verticle door of the cage to the
taped opening of the trap and remove the piece of cardboard.

If the cage doesn't have a verticle sliding door, or if you're using a
carrier, open the carrier gate slightly and slide a piece a cardboard across
the carrier opening as you're opening the gate.  Butt the trap's door to the
carrier and slide out the piece of cardboard.

If you're into TNR, I'd be happy to send the plans for building a very
simple, inexpensive, but very effective drop trap.

Phil
Phil P. - 18 Apr 2005 23:16 GMT
> "Suzie-Q" <sme617x@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:sme617x-
> >
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> opening with duct tape.  Butt the sliding verticle door of the cage to the
> taped opening of the trap and remove the piece of cardboard.

> If the cage doesn't have a verticle sliding door, or if you're using a
> carrier, open the carrier gate slightly and slide a piece a cardboard across
> the carrier opening as you're opening the gate.  Butt the trap's door to the
> carrier and slide out the piece of cardboard.

I did it again!  I need more sleep! LOL!

If the cage doesn't have a verticle sliding door, or if you're using a
carrier, open the carrier gate and butt the carrier to the sliding door of
the trap.  When the cat enters the carrier, slide a piece of cardboard
across the carrier opening and slowly slide the cardboard out as you close
the carrier gate.

P

> If you're into TNR, I'd be happy to send the plans for building a very
> simple, inexpensive, but very effective drop trap.
>
> Phil
Mary - 17 Apr 2005 16:09 GMT
"Phil P." <phil@maxshouse.com> wrote i:>
> Cats love and are naturally attracted to cardboard boxes and paper bags - so
> sometimes I set the trap and put it back in the box it was shipped - or put
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> piece of another lawn bag. This trick works with many trapwise cats.  But
> like I said, I don't think you have the time to experiment.

This sounds like a great solution, as they sure do love boxes and bags!

> As an alternative to a live trap you can use a drop trap.  A drop trap is
> basically nothing more than a box (TV size) propped up 18-22" on one side(
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Phil

I really hope he does.
 
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