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Need a new word for "Feral"....

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Libby - 15 Apr 2005 14:17 GMT
>Q: Just curious - not ready to join the rescue squads just yet!!

>A:  You can start with just one cat at a time, or give whatever you >can
financially or timewise to help to help a group or individual >rescue
strays or maintain feral colonies.  You can advocate with your >elected
officials to support spaying and neutering and enforcement of >animal
cruelty laws.

Yes, you're right..there are local cat rescue agencies..Financial support
is a way to help...I'll send in my donation today!!!

We need to develop a nicer word than "feral"...The problem is it has "Fear"
in there...

"Physically challenged" replaced "crippled"..How about "Roaming Cats"
(borrowed term from cellphones!)..or "Cats Out and About"
mlbriggs - 15 Apr 2005 21:37 GMT
>>Q: Just curious - not ready to join the rescue squads just yet!!
>
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> "Physically challenged" replaced "crippled"..How about "Roaming Cats"
> (borrowed term from cellphones!)..or "Cats Out and About"

Homeless?
Brandy?Alexandre - 15 Apr 2005 22:49 GMT
mlbriggs <mlbriggs@nospam.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

>>>Q: Just curious - not ready to join the rescue squads just yet!!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Homeless?

How about the other word for feral "ferine?"  It's just one letter off
from feline.

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Mathew Kagis - 15 Apr 2005 21:45 GMT
<SNIP>

> "Physically challenged" replaced "crippled"..How about "Roaming Cats"
> (borrowed term from cellphones!)..or "Cats Out and About"

"Unencumbered by human slaves"?
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Mary - 15 Apr 2005 22:00 GMT
> <SNIP>
>
> > "Physically challenged" replaced "crippled"..How about "Roaming Cats"
> > (borrowed term from cellphones!)..or "Cats Out and About"
>
> "Unencumbered by human slaves"?

Unloved, in the way, and abandoned or owned by idiots?
Orchid - 15 Apr 2005 23:01 GMT
>We need to develop a nicer word than "feral"...The problem is it has "Fear"
>in there...

    *boggle*  No it doesn't.  'Fear' is nowhere involved with
feral.  Feral comes from the Latin 'fera' which means 'wild animal'
which comes from the Latin root 'ferus' which means 'wild'.  Fear is
from an Old English (and hence Germanic) root 'faer' which meant
'disaster' or 'calamity' but not (interestingly enough) the emotions
engendered from the event.

    Feral is a perfectly nice, perfectly descriptive Latinate word
that encapsulates the state of a feral animal.  They have returned to
a wild state from domestication, hence they are feral.

Orchid
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Libby - 15 Apr 2005 23:13 GMT
Well, it may be a question of how exactly does one pronounce "feral"..

You say to-MAY-to and I say to-MAH-to..

Is it FEAR-al, or FEHR-al...

Regardless of what origins of the word are, people will react to what the
word sounds like. (Like Chevy "Nova" not selling in South America because
it translates as "No Va"..."Doesn't Go"
Mary - 15 Apr 2005 23:27 GMT
> Well, it may be a question of how exactly does one pronounce "feral"..
>
> You say to-MAY-to and I say to-MAH-to..
>
> Is it FEAR-al, or FEHR-al...

There are two accepted pronunciations:

feral with the e sounding like it does in "pet"

and

feral with the e sounding like the i does in "fit"

There is no accepted pronunciation that sounds
like "fearul" with a long "e" according to my
Webster's.
Orchid - 16 Apr 2005 02:45 GMT
>Well, it may be a question of how exactly does one pronounce "feral"..
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>word sounds like. (Like Chevy "Nova" not selling in South America because
>it translates as "No Va"..."Doesn't Go"

Didn't happen.  http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp

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Mary - 15 Apr 2005 23:29 GMT
> >We need to develop a nicer word than "feral"...The problem is it has "Fear"
> >in there...
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> that encapsulates the state of a feral animal.  They have returned to
> a wild state from domestication, hence they are feral.

The point it, anyone pronouncing it so that it sounds
like "fear" is pronouncing it incorrectly according to
current usage as described in Webster's.
Annie Wxill - 16 Apr 2005 00:55 GMT
...> We need to develop a nicer word than "feral"...The problem is it has
"Fear"
> in there...
> "Physically challenged" replaced "crippled"..How about "Roaming Cats"
> (borrowed term from cellphones!)..or "Cats Out and About"

"Feral" is a word that specifically describes a domestic animal that has
reverted to a wild state.  It does not apply only to cats.
Unfortunately, many people misuse the word feral to describe any cat that
appears to be homeless.
I believe that the word "stray" more accurately describes many homeless
cats, which are usually former pets that somehow ended up on their own. To
many people, this cat, which may be merely frightened and confused, can
appear to be feral. This can be fatal to a cat who ends up in the hands of
those animal control or other people who make decisions to automatically put
down feral cats.
Some people who work with feral cats use the phrase "hard stray" to describe
a cat that is between domestic and feral.  Personally, I think it is a good
idea because it recognizes that it is not an "either/or" situation and there
is a gradient from one extreme to the other, and, depending on the
circumstances, a cat can move from one level to another.
Annie
Sharon Talbert - 21 Apr 2005 23:46 GMT
How about "homeless," but I'm so late in this conversation I've bet you've
made your choice by now.  I believe the word feral is derived from
ferocious, which is even more unfortunate than fear.  Bottom line is, a
feral animal is a domesticated species that has been introduced (in the
case of cats, substitute abandoned) in the wild.  Honey bees are feral, by
the way, introduced by bee keeping Europeans.

Sharon Talbert
Campus Cats

>> Q: Just curious - not ready to join the rescue squads just yet!!
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> "Physically challenged" replaced "crippled"..How about "Roaming Cats"
> (borrowed term from cellphones!)..or "Cats Out and About"
Wayfarer - 22 Apr 2005 03:17 GMT
I have a "feral".  Her mother was presumably a pet abandoned by people who
sold the house and moved leaving the mother cat and soon to be kittens.

All were caught but mine.  She was finally caught at 2 months and I got her
shortly after from a rescue.   I have a pound puppy (now 12 and in ill
health) and a huge cat abandoned in the foothills of Colorado (he is huge!)
and one more rescue kitten I got with the feral.

I love all of my guys and gals but the feral is special.  I have had her
since she was 2 months old.   After 6 years she still does not allow anyone
but me and I have to announce and ask her before I approach.  But she is
loving and extremely smart (or she would have died early on).

I think many of these cats could be "saved".  Their live spans as "ferals"
is very short.  I understand there are more homeless cats than homes, but
ferals can be terrific companions.  They need special attention and
respective.    Just like all of us.
 
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