Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / April 2005
Fish food for cats
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Eddie2005 - 11 Apr 2005 20:47 GMT I feed my cat Wellness, 5.5 oz can. Usually he gobbles it right up, any flavor.
But this morning, he wasn't interested - I served him half a can of their "Chicken + Herring". The other half of the can was served the night before, he had eaten most of that.
I thought this flavor was a little strange - I mean herring is something my uncle Bernie used to eat, with lox and bagels.
He ate a little, and then a few minutes later, barfed it all out. I cleaned his bowl - and just didn't like the way it smelled. Then I gave him the Chicken flavor and he was fine. Actually, reading this, he probably barfed for some other reason.
But I don't think the fish flavors keep too well when they sit out..Also, I read somewhere that you should not give fish to cats - they have trouble digesting it - it's not their natural food.
Should I return all the fish flavors? (they also have "Chicken + Lobster - another strange combination)
thanks
Karen - 11 Apr 2005 20:55 GMT You know, with boys it is best to stay away from things with fish in the first say 13 ingredients. Too many minerals. That's my rule of thumb anyway since my Grant (RB) had urinary troubles and my vet told me fish doesn't help.
> I feed my cat Wellness, 5.5 oz can. Usually he gobbles it right up, any > flavor. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > thanks ElvisRocks - 12 Apr 2005 03:12 GMT Yes, I feed my cats very little fish stuff. My previous cats could never eat any of the food that had crab, sardines, mackerel, etc. in it - they always barfed it. Too rich I think. My babies are Fancy Feast kits. They mostly get Chunky Chicken, Beef & Liver, etc.
>I feed my cat Wellness, 5.5 oz can. Usually he gobbles it right up, any > flavor. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > thanks Mathew Kagis - 12 Apr 2005 10:21 GMT > I feed my cat Wellness, 5.5 oz can. Usually he gobbles it right up, any > flavor. > > But this morning, he wasn't interested - I served him half a can of their > "Chicken + Herring". The other half of the can was served the night before, > he had eaten most of that. There's a dried salmon treat my cats are crazy for... But they get it in small quantities, sporadically. As a diet staple, I stick mostly to fowl & hooved animal based catfood. I'd never considered the 'seafood is not a feline's natural diet' idea before, but now that you point it out..... I've never seen a wild cat fishing.... Bears, racoons & other creatures, sure. But never cats. Makes sense.
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Barb - 12 Apr 2005 16:13 GMT My cats passed on half of their Wellness Chicken and Lobster, too, this morning and then wolfed down some Wellness dry food instead so no more canned fish. Also I never get the Wellness chicken because they passed on that, too.
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Justin L - 12 Apr 2005 16:27 GMT >My cats passed on half of their Wellness Chicken and Lobster, too, this >morning and then wolfed down some Wellness dry food instead so no more >canned fish. Also I never get the Wellness chicken because they passed on >that, too. Interesting, my two also pass on the Wellness chicken and the seafood flavors. They only seem to like the turkey flavor.
On a side not, Jake *loves* the Fancy Feast turkey and chicken flavors. You should have heard the grunting noises he was making as he was chowing it down!!
First time I saw him literally lick his dish clean!!
Justin
Mary - 12 Apr 2005 17:09 GMT > >My cats passed on half of their Wellness Chicken and Lobster, too, this > >morning and then wolfed down some Wellness dry food instead so no more [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > First time I saw him literally lick his dish clean!! I trust you say the thread regarding the improved nutrition in FF since Nestle/Purina bought the company? Some of the chicken and turkey flavors have as a first ingredient actual chicken or turkey! The sign of a premium cat food. (As opposed to "meat byproducts" or "chicken byproducts" being the first ingredient.) Have you tried the beef flavors? My cats love them. Even the salmon has salmon as a first ingredient.
Used to be (maybe six months ago) that the first ingredient in all FF flavors was some sort of byproduct. And, it used to be that the "chopped grill" was the only flavor my cats would clean their plates for. Now they do for most of the flavors. You might want to compare the nutrients in Wellness with FF to see how it fares, since it does have the "flavor factor" that ensures your cats are eating well.
Justin L - 13 Apr 2005 01:06 GMT <snip>
>I trust you say the thread regarding the improved nutrition >in FF since Nestle/Purina bought the company? yes, yes I did!
>Some of the >chicken and turkey flavors have as a first ingredient actual >chicken or turkey! The sign of a premium cat food. (As >opposed to "meat byproducts" or "chicken byproducts" >being the first ingredient.) Have you tried the beef flavors? Tried the grilled beef flavor tonight, and it was a definite success!!
>My cats love them. Even the salmon has salmon as a >first ingredient. > >Used to be (maybe six months ago) that the first ingredient >in all FF flavors was some sort of byproduct. Do you know if they have raised their prices since then?
>nd, it used >to be that the "chopped grill" was the only flavor my >cats would clean their plates for. Now they do for most >of the flavors. You might want to compare the nutrients >in Wellness with FF to see how it fares, since it does have >the "flavor factor" that ensures your cats are eating well. I am not sure what to compare to be honest. I really don't think Fancy Feast is *that* cheap. I paid about $0.42 for 3 oz. cans of Fancy Feat, and $1.05 for a 5.5z. can of Wellness (and the cats *always* leave a small amount of the Wellness in their dish, wasting it.)
The grilled varieties I have been trying of the Fancy Feast look and smell pretty decent (like actual turkey or chicken) and like I said, Jake gobbles them up!!
Do you know if it is only the "grilled" varieties they improved, or all of their flavors/styles?
Justin
Mary - 13 Apr 2005 01:19 GMT > <snip> > >I trust you say the thread regarding the improved nutrition [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Do you know if they have raised their prices since then? Not at my local stores! They are 44-49 cents a 3-oz can sometimes 2 for 80 on sale and have been for a few years. I buy them at Kroger, Lowe's Foods, Harris Teeter, Food Lion and Winn Dixie.
> >nd, it used > >to be that the "chopped grill" was the only flavor my [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Feat, and $1.05 for a 5.5z. can of Wellness (and the cats *always* > leave a small amount of the Wellness in their dish, wasting it.) I guess more than cost I was thinking of the flavor factor, meaning less waste because the cats will actually eat it. But of course we all need to get good values, too.
> The grilled varieties I have been trying of the Fancy Feast look and > smell pretty decent (like actual turkey or chicken) and like I said, > Jake gobbles them up!! > > Do you know if it is only the "grilled" varieties they improved, or > all of their flavors/styles? I don't know, but honestly, I could not find a single flavor a few months ago that did NOT have byproducts as a first ingredient and now there are many. Especially look at the ones that say "gourmet," they almost all have real meat or fish as a first ingredient.
There are lots I cannot buy because my cats only eat all of the flaked or ground varieties--the chunks with gravy result in just the gravy getting licked off. Little monsters!
kaeli - 13 Apr 2005 14:36 GMT > Used to be (maybe six months ago) that the first ingredient > in all FF flavors was some sort of byproduct. And, it used [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > in Wellness with FF to see how it fares, since it does have > the "flavor factor" that ensures your cats are eating well. You know, my cats have been extra thrilled with FF lately, too. I wonder if this is why? They especially like the shredded kinds. They still don't like the sliced, though. Mine all turned up their noses at Wellness, too. I can't blame them. It was pure mush. They like some texture, I guess. FF even looks more appetizing to ME. <LOL>
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Mary - 13 Apr 2005 16:34 GMT > > Used to be (maybe six months ago) that the first ingredient > > in all FF flavors was some sort of byproduct. And, it used [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > You know, my cats have been extra thrilled with FF lately, too. I wonder if > this is why? I'm telling you, it is different stuff. If I had not just read the label a few months ago, I would never have realized it. Now my problem is that Cheeks eats the salmon so fast she chucks it up!
> They especially like the shredded kinds. They still don't like the sliced, > though. > Mine all turned up their noses at Wellness, too. I can't blame them. It was > pure mush. They like some texture, I guess. FF even looks more appetizing to > ME. <LOL> Mine want flaked or ground food but they love the gravy. The so-called "gourmet" flavors are usually ground that also has gravy.
Diane L. Schirf - 14 Apr 2005 01:32 GMT > You know, my cats have been extra thrilled with FF lately, too. Is Fancy Feast okay for a male cat who's had "struvite" crystals once or twice?
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kaeli - 14 Apr 2005 15:42 GMT > > You know, my cats have been extra thrilled with FF lately, too. > > Is Fancy Feast okay for a male cat who's had "struvite" crystals once or > twice? Beats me. I would assume so, but IANAV.
Did you ask your vet? Your cat may be better off on a prescription diet, but that's well out of my realm of knowledge.
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Mary - 12 Apr 2005 17:04 GMT > My cats passed on half of their Wellness Chicken and Lobster, too, this > morning and then wolfed down some Wellness dry food instead so no more > canned fish. Also I never get the Wellness chicken because they passed on > that, too. I have found that if I keep offering different flavors their tastes can change.
-L. - 12 Apr 2005 16:22 GMT > I feed my cat Wellness, 5.5 oz can. Usually he gobbles it right up, any > flavor. > > But this morning, he wasn't interested - I served him half a can of their > "Chicken + Herring". The other half of the can was served the night before, > he had eaten most of that. If your cat consistently vomits fish flaovred foods, he's probably allergic to it. It's not all that uncommon. Also, be sure to store unused cat food in the fridge - it wasn't clear if that was what you were doing or not.
good luck, -L.
Eddie2005 - 12 Apr 2005 16:30 GMT I feed him half a can in the morning 8am - he usually gobbles down half to 3/4 of it..then nibbles on the rest till 8pm...Then he gets the other refrigerated half. He gobbles down half to 3/4 of that..then nibbles on the rest till 8am. Hi diddlee-dee - the Catty life for me.
I think the fish just doesn't keep as well. I have been feeding him the meat/fish Wellness brands..but the weather has gotten a lot warmer, so that might have something to do with it.
I did find this other thread, sort of related.
http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/cat-health/2418/Defective-Wellness
Wellness has a very "active" user group - lots of back and forth with the company. Times sure have changed since I was a kid and we fed our mutt Gainesburgers!!
Mary - 12 Apr 2005 17:12 GMT > I feed him half a can in the morning 8am - he usually gobbles down half to > 3/4 of it..then nibbles on the rest till 8pm...Then he gets the other [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > company. Times sure have changed since I was a kid and we fed our mutt > Gainesburgers!! He did fine on Gainesburgers, too, didn't he? :) A lot if the success of the "designer" foods is marketing. More for the owners than the pets.
-L. - 13 Apr 2005 00:34 GMT <snip>
> Wellness has a very "active" user group - lots of back and forth with the > company. Times sure have changed since I was a kid and we fed our mutt > Gainesburgers!! No kidding! I wonder how many people remember those things...
-L.
Mathew Kagis - 13 Apr 2005 01:09 GMT . Times sure have changed since I was a kid and we fed our
> mutt > > Gainesburgers!! > > No kidding! I wonder how many people remember those things... > > -L. MMMMMM, Gainsburgers!! Wait, you mean those were for DOGS??? Eeeeewwwwwwww! Mathew Butler to 2 kittens: Chablis & Muscat En Vino Veritas
mlbriggs - 13 Apr 2005 01:23 GMT > . Times sure have changed since I was a kid and we fed our >> mutt [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Mathew > Butler to 2 kittens: Chablis & Muscat En Vino Veritas There was a large can of dog food called "Vets" 10 cents a can -- really stinky, but Rex loved it. MLB
Mary - 13 Apr 2005 01:35 GMT > > . Times sure have changed since I was a kid and we fed our > >> mutt [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > There was a large can of dog food called "Vets" 10 cents a can -- really > stinky, but Rex loved it. MLB I have seen web sites that recommend feeding Gaines Burgers to turtles.Apparently Quaker still makes them.
Mary - 12 Apr 2005 17:11 GMT > Also, be sure to store > unused cat food in the fridge - it wasn't clear if that was what you > were doing or not. > > good luck, > -L. If he does not know to store opened cat food in the refrigerator he needs a whole lot more than luck. What an asinine comment.
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