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Detached Retinas...plus cataracts..

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St. Louis Cat Woman - 10 Apr 2005 22:48 GMT
Hi,

I recently adopted a 10 year old blind cat from the shelter..Just felt so
bad for the poor thing. I live in a quiet apartment, no kids or other pets
(well, a hermit crab). I'm a senior citizen, so I do not want a kitten that
will live for 20 years! Now it's just us two old ladies.

She has detached retinas on both eyes. - they don't know how long she's had
them, she was found in a yard. But she's very docile and cuddly - not feral
at all. She also has cataracts on both eyes.

Funny thing is that her irises get larger and smaller with the light - just
like she can see. Also, a friend was over and took a flash picture of me
holding her..And my friend said she did a long squint after the flash! Like
the way people see "stars" after a flash.

I took a flash photo and she did the same thing..We stopped at that, though
- didn't want to hurt/frighten her if she could see something. But she does
not follow objects/fingers with her eyes..and she bumps into things..

Is it possible that she can see something? A glow? Shadows? What is her
vision after detached retinas. I've read that they can sometimes re-
attach...

Would it be possible for a vet to reverse the condition in at least one
eye...operate on one detached retina (don't know exactly what that means...)
and cataract?

She gets around the apartment just great - even sits on the window sill
"looking" outside..Just wanted to see if there's hope - thinking of
"lending" her to a doctor's institute that trains eye surgeons!

thanks for help/advice
Mary - 10 Apr 2005 22:58 GMT
> Hi,
>
> I recently adopted a 10 year old blind cat from the shelter..Just felt so
> bad for the poor thing. I live in a quiet apartment, no kids or other pets
> (well, a hermit crab). I'm a senior citizen, so I do not want a kitten that
> will live for 20 years! Now it's just us two old ladies.

Bless you.

> She has detached retinas on both eyes. - they don't know how long she's had
> them, she was found in a yard. But she's very docile and cuddly - not feral
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> eye...operate on one detached retina (don't know exactly what that means...)
> and cataract?

I suggest you post this to alt.med.veterinary since we do not
appear to have vets posting here at this time.
Karen - 10 Apr 2005 23:03 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> thanks for help/advice

Where do you live? I wonder if you have a veterinary opthamologist near who
could take a look and maybe give you some suggestions. I'm a little
concerned as detached retinas often occur from high blood pressure, which
*can* be controlled. A shelter might not have had access to veterinary care
that had BP monitoring. Did they say anything about that?
zuzu22@webtv.net - 10 Apr 2005 23:44 GMT
>She has detached retinas on both eyes. -
>they don't know how long she's had them,
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>and smaller with the light - just like she
>can see.

Did the shelter say why they thought the retina's were detached? If they
were I would expect that the pupils would be fixed and dilated. The most
common cause of retinal detachment is high blood pressure, which if left
untreated will kilI, and my guess is that the shelter doesn't have the
equipment to monitor blood pressure. High BP, or hypertension, can also
be related to chronic renal failure (a treatable condition) so I think
your best bet is to get your cat in for a full blood workup and blood
pressure check ASAP. This is especially  important since this is
obviously an older cat with an unknown origin. When at the vet they will
be able to get a good look at the eyes and see what's going on.

Please keep in mind that a lot of vets still don't have blood pressure
monitors, so it is important to find a vet that does. Depending on what
the outcome is, the vet may be able to handle the eye issue as well,
although if you have a veterinary opthamologist in your area that would
be ideal. Regardless, the first and most important thing is to get the
testing done so you know where your cat is at healthwise, find out if
there are any underlying issues, and have a baseline to work from.

Megan

                                   
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St. Louis Cat Woman - 11 Apr 2005 00:05 GMT
Oh! I should have added - she does have high blood pressure and I give her
medication for that daily. They just don't know when the high blood
pressure detached her retinas since that's how she was found. I live in St.
Louis ("St. Louis Cat Woman). Real name is Anna!
Cathy Friedmann - 11 Apr 2005 00:10 GMT
> Oh! I should have added - she does have high blood pressure and I give her
> medication for that daily. They just don't know when the high blood
> pressure detached her retinas since that's how she was found.

Ah, okay - good; that's already been taken care of then.

Cathy

I live in St.
> Louis ("St. Louis Cat Woman). Real name is Anna!
-L. - 11 Apr 2005 00:16 GMT
> Oh! I should have added - she does have high blood pressure and I give her
> medication for that daily. They just don't know when the high blood
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I don't know how long you said you have had her but whether or not her
retinas can be reattached has a lot to do with how long the detachment
occurred.  After detachment, the rods and cones start to die and are
non-functional as well.  It might eb wise to do a search to see if
there is a feline opthamologist in your area.  From what I know of
people with retina problems many still see light and dark to some
extent, even if the retina is detached, as long as the optic nerve is
intact.

Bless you for taking in this kitty; it sounds like she got a wonderful
home.

-L.
zuzu22@webtv.net - 11 Apr 2005 00:31 GMT
>Oh! I should have added - she does have
>high blood pressure and I give her
>medication for that daily. They just don't
>know when the high blood pressure
>detached her retinas since that's how she
>was found.

The most likely scenario here is that her retinas detached at about the
same time she was found and the ondition was diagnosed. If caught
*quickly*, retinal detachment cause by hypertension can often be
reversed if the cat is put on medication quickly. It sounds like that is
what has happened and it's a good thing!

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St. Louis Cat Woman - 11 Apr 2005 04:10 GMT
She was found last September - and just sat at the shelter till this past
week...everyone was turned off by the fact she was blind. She has been on
high blood pressure medication since September.

How long her retinas were detached is anyone's guess...could be weeks..or
years.

1. How long does it take for rods/cones to die?
2. Can retinas just be partially detached?
-L. - 11 Apr 2005 08:43 GMT
> She was found last September - and just sat at the shelter till this past
> week...everyone was turned off by the fact she was blind. She has been on
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>
> 1. How long does it take for rods/cones to die?

Depends. Sometimes weeks - sometimes longer (in humans, at least).  A
veterinarian opthamologist can look at her eyes and see if there is any
hope of doing anything for them.

> 2. Can retinas just be partially detached?

Yes.  They most often are.

-L.
Karen - 11 Apr 2005 19:51 GMT
I wonder if you got one of those balls that have flashy lights if she could
follow it? 10 y.o. is not THAT old in the grand scheme of things. Be
interesting to check out.

> > She was found last September - and just sat at the shelter till this
> past
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>
> -L.
Phil P. - 11 Apr 2005 10:59 GMT
> She was found last September - and just sat at the shelter till this past
> week...everyone was turned off by the fact she was blind. She has been on
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>
> 1. How long does it take for rods/cones to die?

> 2. Can retinas just be partially detached?

Yes.

I don't want to give you false hope, so I strongly suggest you contact Dr.
Kirk N. Gelatt at the University of Florida.  Dr. Gelatt is one of the
leading veterinary ophthalmologists in the world.

You might want to give him a call and email or fax him all of the cat's
medical records.

Tel: +1 352 392 4700 ext 5855
Fax: +1 352 392 6125
Email: gelattk@mail.vetmed.UFL.EDU

Best of luck.

Phil
St. Louis Cat Woman - 11 Apr 2005 20:31 GMT
Thanks for all your help, everybody

...Well, first we have to see what shape the retinas are in, if they are
salvageable..A friend has a good vet for her cat, I'll bring mine there for
examination/referral. Let's hope for the best!

Anna
Mary - 11 Apr 2005 22:58 GMT
> Thanks for all your help, everybody
>
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>
> Anna

Bless your heart and soul for taking care of this cat. It will come
back to you ten times over.
-L. - 12 Apr 2005 00:56 GMT
> Thanks for all your help, everybody
>
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Please keep us posted on how she does.  I have such a soft spot in my
heart for sight-impaired kitties.  I once placed one who became blind
after a stroke during surgery - she was the sweetest thing.

take care,
-L.
kitkat - 12 Apr 2005 03:47 GMT
> She was found last September - and just sat at the shelter till this past
> week...everyone was turned off by the fact she was blind.

Hi Anna.
I just wanted to chime in and say hurray for you adopting the kitty. I,
too, have a blind cat. His name is Jasper and he is also deaf. We sorta
inherited him last August. We took him to help out a friend of the
family who's mother had died and had 2 cats. We didn't know he was blind
and deaf until we got him.

I am quite certain that if I had been looking for a kitty at a shelter,
I would have definitely overlooked a cat that was blind. However, after
having Jasper for the past 8 months, I can not even EXPLAIN the joy he
brings to our home. I really think that *we* are lucky to have him. I
have learned so much being the mommy of a special needs kitty! :)

Kudos to you!
Pam
Cathy Friedmann - 11 Apr 2005 00:08 GMT
> Hi,
>
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> them, she was found in a yard. But she's very docile and cuddly - not feral
> at all. She also has cataracts on both eyes.

I don't know the answers to your various questions (below), although I have
heard of retinas reattaching if they haven't been detached for too long,
when treated promptly enough.

However, I *would* ask the vet about getting her blood pressure checked,
since hypertension/ high blood pressure is one reason for retinal
detachment.  If it turns out that she has high blood pressure, she can be
treated w/ medication to lower it, just as people can.  Not all vets are yet
equipped & trained to do cats' blood pressure readings.  If your vet can't
do the reading, s/he could probably recommend the nearest vet, to get it
done.

Cathy

> Funny thing is that her irises get larger and smaller with the light - just
> like she can see. Also, a friend was over and took a flash picture of me
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> thanks for help/advice
Lesley Madigan - 12 Apr 2005 13:25 GMT
> I recently adopted a 10 year old blind cat from the shelter..Just felt so
> bad for the poor thing.

I just want to say how wonderful you are to offer this cat a home.
Does she have a name?Photos?

Lesley

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St.Louis Cat Woman - 12 Apr 2005 14:53 GMT
Oh my goodness..it took a two week course at a local community college just
to get to the point where I could write a letter and surf the web on the
computer! Not ready for websites just yet. But I have made millions trading
stocks on eTrade (just kidding!).

As for the name..- I'm settling on "Rae Charles"....and maybe starting her
on piano lessons!

Anna
Mary - 12 Apr 2005 16:25 GMT
> Oh my goodness..it took a two week course at a local community college just
> to get to the point where I could write a letter and surf the web on the
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> As for the name..- I'm settling on "Rae Charles"....and maybe starting her
> on piano lessons!

hahahaha! Very cute. My cat has a relatively harmless condition
called feline hyperesthesia, meaning pretty much that when you
pet the base of her tail she does weird stuff. Well, she is a tuxedo
cat and what she does is point her nose to the sky and wag her head
back and forth and sing "Mow. Mow mow mow. Mow mow." If
I got her a little pair of sunglasses she would look like a blind
1960s lounge singer. :')
 
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