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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / April 2005Kidney Failure: What might she Eat now ??
We guess that three year old Bandit got poisoned around Christmas time, but we didn't notice her kidney failure until about a month ago when she got lethargic, and noticed a huge weight loss. Right now it looks like life-long sub-q hydration might be needed if she survives at all. A few days ago, she was also diagnosed with a kidney infection. We're just trying to find something she'll (Bandit) will eat. After first aid and hydration, she started 2 weeks ago with a voratious appetite for anything wet, and has become progressively fussy. We had to stop giving her the KD prescription diet cuz she wasn't eating it. Now she's starting to turn her nose up at tuna, her former favorite, and now we've found some ocean brew she seems to like alright. But what if she eventually refuses that too? Any suggestions? Things do not look good. Not just a lack of improvement. > We guess that three year old Bandit got poisoned > around Christmas time, but we didn't notice her > kidney failure until about a month ago when she > got lethargic, and noticed a huge weight loss. Do you know how she got poisoned? > Right now it looks like life-long sub-q hydration > might be needed if she survives at all. A few > days ago, she was also diagnosed with a kidney > infection. What are they giving her for the kidney infection? > We're just trying to find something she'll (Bandit) will > eat. After first aid and hydration, she started > 2 weeks ago with a voratious appetite for anything > wet, and has become progressively fussy. Yeah, subQ fluids can make a drastic improvement. How often is she getting fluids? > We had to stop giving her the KD prescription diet cuz > she wasn't eating it. Now she's starting to turn her > nose up at tuna, her former favorite, and now we've found > some ocean brew she seems to like alright. But what > if she eventually refuses that too? Any suggestions? Braised chicken, baby food meat (no onions), Fancy Feast - at least those are the things *my* Bandit would eat when she was injured. Basically, *anything* you can get her to eat is better than her not eating. > Things do not look good. Not just a lack of improvement. Sending purrs for her, I'm sorry she's so ill. Hugs, CatNipped CatNipped <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > Braised chicken, baby food meat (no onions), Fancy Feast - at > least those are the things *my* Bandit would eat when she was > injured. Basically, *anything* you can get her to eat is better > than her not eating. That's way too much protein for a kidney cat. If she's not eating the prescription diet, like Kami, try the Science Diet food. The adult formula salmon is a ground seafood flavor with protein and phos values close to the prescription, or if she likes the chunks and gravy kind, the adult Savory Cuts Ocean is good. Kami changed her mind about chunks and is eating the senior beef and the adult salmon, and doing very well.  SignatureBrandy??Alexandre? http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? > CatNipped <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > That's way too much protein for a kidney cat. Yes, you're right, it is. But you'll note that I qualified that with "*anything* you can get her to eat is better than her not eating." > If she's not eating the > prescription diet, like Kami, try the Science Diet food. The adult [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > chunks and is eating the senior beef and the adult salmon, and doing > very well. You'll note the OP said that the cat *WAS* on prescription diet but was starting to refuse to eat it. Of *course* a diet specifically designed for the problem a cat is having is the best course, but eating anything at all is better than letting a cat die of liver disease from starvation. Hugs, CatNipped CatNipped <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > Yes, you're right, it is. But you'll note that I qualified that > with "*anything* you can get her to eat is better than her not > eating." You're right, I'm sorry. It's juts that you listed chicken and baby food first before other premium diets that cat might like. But you're right--when it comes down to eating or not eating, anything is better than nothing. SignatureBrandy??Alexandre? http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? > CatNipped <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote in > rec.pets.cats.health+behav: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > right--when it comes down to eating or not eating, anything is better > than nothing. I know, I cringed at some of the things I was offering *my* Bandit to eat when she was injured - I'd *NEVER* give her some of those things if I could have gotten her to eat something better for her. Hugs, CatNipped Can you try Science Diet x/d (the *minced* is MUCH better than the regular kind). That is what my kidney failure kitty eats. I mix it with a little scoop of the dry x/d so his teeth get a work out. -Janet > We guess that three year old Bandit got poisoned > around Christmas time, but we didn't notice her [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Things do not look good. Not just a lack of improvement. > We guess that three year old Bandit got poisoned > around Christmas time, but we didn't notice her > kidney failure until about a month ago when she > got lethargic, and noticed a huge weight loss. I am so sorry this happened to her. At three years old or any age. > Right now it looks like life-long sub-q hydration > might be needed if she survives at all. A few [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Things do not look good. Not just a lack of improvement. Lots of people will chime in, I feel sure of it. In the mean time, please try a Google search for the topic "CRF" for this group. There have been many discussions here over the years. > We guess that three year old Bandit got poisoned > around Christmas time, but we didn't notice her [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > days ago, she was also diagnosed with a kidney > infection. I'm not clear why you think she was poisoned, but toxins are more likely to cause acute renal failure, whereas it sounds like Bandit has chronic renal failure. > We're just trying to find something she'll (Bandit) will > eat. After first aid and hydration, she started [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Things do not look good. Not just a lack of improvement. You don't give any bloodwork, but there are a number of possible causes of inappetance in a CRF cat, and any which are present need to be addressed to help her appetite return: http://www.felinecrf.org/symptoms_treatments_index.htm#L It might also be that the antibiotics you are giving for her infection are also contributing to her inappetance. In the meantime, this page should help, particularly the Persuading Your Cat To Eat section: http://www.felinecrf.org/diet_and_nutrition.htm I also suggest you join the CRF Support list, link on homepage of above site HTH Helen Kidney Failure: What might she Eat now ?? Thanks tons everybody for everything! I passed on your info to the care givers, and the google link in case they anything to add. I dont know the bloodwork details, etc. It was a second vet who detected the infection. No, we dont know what if anything poisoned her. It's just a guess. Suspected is spider (house) plants, and anti-freeze. Half the web sites say spider plants are non toxic, but many say they are toxic. She was munching on them. She did escape outside around Xmas time. The environment is mountainous, elev 6,000 ft, pine and fir trees, with partial snow cover. (Near Tahoe.) I wonder, what, besides poison could cause this? > Kidney Failure: What might she Eat now ?? > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I wonder, what, besides poison could cause this? I think it "just happens" to some cats, although rarely cats so young. I am not sure the always know. Thanks again for all the tips and purrs. The battle is over. We feel we took the right steps in what is now a lost battle. It took only 2 weeks for her to degrade to the point where we felt, on Dr.'s advice, the best option for Bandit was to let her go. All the poking, prodding, confinement etc. contributed to a bad situation getting worse. In the end, she was too weak for a transplant. We miss her bunches and are sad. > Thanks again for all the tips and purrs. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > We miss her bunches and are sad. I'm very sorry :( > Thanks again for all the tips and purrs. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > We miss her bunches and are sad. RB Purrs to Bandit, and heart healing purrs to you. I'm so sorry for your loss. SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > Thanks again for all the tips and purrs. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > We miss her bunches and are sad. I am so terribly sorry to hear this. I know how hard it is - that happened with our Percy. Hugs, CatNipped > Thanks again for all the tips and purrs. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > We miss her bunches and are sad. I'm really sorry for your loss. I lost a beloved cat in 2001 and still cry over her. I know how hard it is. You can at least be comforted that she had the best of care, and the greatest gift at the end that you could give her--relief from suffering. Be good to yourself. > Thanks again for all the tips and purrs. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > We miss her bunches and are sad. I'm so sorry for your loss. No matter how pepared you are, it hurts. I hope you can find peace and comfort in the days and weeks to come. -L. |
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