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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / April 2005Tucker is 5 pounds lighter!
Some of you might remember my Tucker's weight-loss journey. For five months, he's been on a diet to lose five pounds. It's been slow, but steady, and this morning he weighed in at his goal: 16 lbs! Hooray! He's looking great! He has a physique and I can feel his ribs again when I pet him. You can see his progress and photos here: http://community-2webtv.net/getcathelp/tucker/ His latest 16 lb photos are not yet posted, though. :( Rene ACK, I posted the incorrect URL! Here's the right one! http://community-2.webtv.net/getcathelp/tucker/ Impresssive! > ACK, I posted the incorrect URL! Here's the right one! > > http://community-2.webtv.net/getcathelp/tucker/ > ACK, I posted the incorrect URL! Here's the right one! > > http://community-2.webtv.net/getcathelp/tucker/ Rene, that's fantastic. You're doing a wonderful job with Tucker. He should be healthier and feel much better with that weight loss. MaryL > Some of you might remember my Tucker's weight-loss journey. For five > months, he's been on a diet to lose five pounds. It's been slow, but [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Rene Congratulations. How much Wellness are you feeding him? (And by the way, one pound a month for a cat is NOT slow weight loss. But I'm sure his vet has been supervising.) Tucker is a beautiful boy. Oh boy, I must not be awake. He's been on the diet for EIGHT months, not five. Yes, his vet is aware and updated of what I'm doing. He started at 1 + 1/3 cans per day of Wellness, now he gets 2/3 can per day, plus a few treats. I will be increasing his food to maintain (and will continue to weigh him weekly) his weight. Rene > Oh boy, I must not be awake. He's been on the diet for EIGHT months, > not five. Yes, his vet is aware and updated of what I'm doing. > > He started at 1 + 1/3 cans per day of Wellness, now he gets 2/3 can per > day, plus a few treats. I will be increasing his food to maintain (and > will continue to weigh him weekly) his weight. What size cans? I am struggling with my cat Buddha's weight now. She is a petite female and should weigh maybe 8-9 pounds, but weighs twice that. Mary, they are the 5.5 oz size (the ones that are tuna-canned size). Rene > Mary, they are the 5.5 oz size (the ones that are tuna-canned size). > > Rene Thanks. I've got my girl on 6 oz of canned a day, split into two portions twelve hours apart. At 2/3rds of a can per day, he is getting by with less than four ounces, if I did the estimation right. ( I stink at math so I just estimated one third of 6 oz = 2 X 2 = 4 oz and of course 5.5 is not 6 so he is getting less than 4 oz.) I might have to cut Buddha back some. I had her on 3 oz and some treats and her weight did not budge. I am still trying to figure out how a hyperthyroid cat got that fat in the first place. (When we got her she was 5 years old and really fat.) Now that her thyroid has been treated her metabolism has slowed down even more--and she has an arythmia problem that means we can't play too hard. Tucker is a lucky boy to have you looking out for him. I'll try the catnip treats to see if that can help Buddha's cravings. She begs constantly, but did that even before we put her on a diet. I'm changing the subject line because I refuse to bring this into what is and should remain a happy, positive thread. marys@catlover.com wrote: >And by the way, one pound a month for a >cat is NOT slow weight loss. Yes it is you ignorant waste of space. Your buddy Phil agrees and has said so hinself numerous times. http://groups.google.ca/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&q=phil+weight+loss+pound+mont h+cats Isn't it just like to you inject your miserable crap into what should be a congratulatory thread. Rene has done an outstanding job and your miserable failure at the same thing doesn't justify you raining on her parade. If you spent less time attacking everyone and spewing vile nonsense and more time to your cat instead of neglecting her to the point wher she is morbidly obese you could eventually be posting the same good news. And your claim it's a medical condition is BS, which is backed up by several of your postings that contradict your lies. You can never keep your stories straight. Megan  Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > I'm changing the subject line because I refuse to bring this into what > is and should remain a happy, positive thread. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yes it is you ignorant waste of space. Your buddy Phil agrees and has > said so hinself numerous times. http://groups.google.ca/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&q=phil+weight+loss+pound+mont h+cats lol! Megan, your blood pressure must be sky high. I thought it sounded like pretty fast weight loss. It I am wrong, that's okay too. I don't present myself as an expert, you do. > Isn't it just like to you inject your miserable crap into what should be > a congratulatory thread. Rene has done an outstanding job and your > miserable failure at the same thing doesn't justify you raining on her > parade. Read it again, chubs. I congratulated her. >If you spent less time attacking everyone and spewing vile > nonsense and more time to your cat instead of neglecting her to the > point wher she is morbidly obese you could eventually be posting the > same good news. And your claim it's a medical condition is BS, which is > backed up by several of your postings that contradict your lies. You > can never keep your stories straight. When you learn that just saying something does not make it true, you will look like slightly less of an a.s. Not much less, but any little bit helps. Poor Megan. marys@catlover.com wrote: >I thought it sounded like pretty fast >weight loss. It I am wrong, that's okay >too. Weight loss has been discussed here many times, including what a safe rate of weight loss is and there is no excuse for your intentional ignorance. You posted that for no reason other than to be nasty. >I don't present myself as an expert, you >do. Then maybe you shouldn't open your big fat uneducated mouth unless you actually know what you're talking about. Take your own advice: "When you learn that just saying something does not make it true, you will look like slightly less of an a.s." >Read it again, chubs. I congratulated >her. And then immediately criticized her. You exhibited classic passive-aggressive behavior and you did it to be nasty. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > marys@catlover.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > And then immediately criticized her. You exhibited classic > passive-aggressive behavior and you did it to be nasty. Ask Rene if she feels criticized. Her response was to correct her statement to five pounds in eight months. I really am beginning to feel sad for you, Megan. But you keep doing whatever makes you feel better. It has to be frustrating to be as old as you are and have so little that you feel your whole sense of worth hinges on whether or not you are the unchallenged Usenet expert on cats. Your behavior shows that something is very frustrating. I have to admit, I hate to see any animals in pain, even really ugly ones like you. I do hope you feel better. Maybe an anger management program would help. > marys@catlover.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > learn that just saying something does not make it true, you will look > like slightly less of an a.s." It's the only mouth she has. > > marys@catlover.com wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > It's the only mouth she has. Aww. Little Karen is so cute when she summons the courage of others' convictions. You go, old girl. :) > > marys@catlover.com wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > It's the only mouth she has. Saint *snicker* Leo University! muhahahaha! > I'm changing the subject line because I refuse to bring this into what > is and should remain a happy, positive thread. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yes it is you ignorant waste of space. Your buddy Phil agrees and has > said so hinself numerous times. http://groups.google.ca/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&q=phil+weight+loss+pound+mont h+cats Oh, Megan! Read it again. Phil says one pound a day is optimum--eg about the most you want your cat to lose in a month. That means that losing a pound a month is NOT slow weight loss--it's just right. But please don't get upset about it. I worry about you, old girl. > > I'm changing the subject line because I refuse to bring this into what > > is and should remain a happy, positive thread. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Yes it is you ignorant waste of space. Your buddy Phil agrees and has > > said so hinself numerous times. http://groups.google.ca/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&q=phil+weight+loss+pound+mont h+cats > Oh, Megan! Read it again. Phil says one pound a day is optimum--eg about the > most you want your cat to lose in a month. Of course that should have been "one pound a month." Heh. mays@catlover.com wrote: >Phil says one pound a day is >optimum--eg about the most >you want your cat to lose in a month. And is considered a good rate of slow weight loss. If you look at SACN 4th edition, the rate of safe weight loss for a cat Tucker's size is actually higher than a pound a month, which again shows that 1 pound a month is a nice slow rate of weight loss. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > mays@catlover.com wrote: > >Phil says one pound a day is [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > actually higher than a pound a month, which again shows that 1 pound a > month is a nice slow rate of weight loss. There now, that's better. See, there is no reason to get so angry, old girl. We're all here to learn, after all. ;o) "Mary" <marys@catlovernospam.com> wrote in message http://groups.google.ca/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&q=phil+weight+loss+pound+mont h+cats > Oh, Megan! Read it again. Phil says one pound a day is optimum That must be a typo because I've *never* said one pound of weight loss a day is optimum. I *always* recommend *no more* than one pound of weight loss every *four weeks*. > "Mary" <marys@catlovernospam.com> wrote in message http://groups.google.ca/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&q=phil+weight+loss+pound+mont h+cats > > Oh, Megan! Read it again. Phil says one pound a day is optimum > > That must be a typo because I've *never* said one pound of weight loss a day > is optimum. I *always* recommend *no more* than one pound of weight loss > every *four weeks*. I meant that you stated that it was the most a cat should lose in a month, not that it was the optimum amount. Thanks for verifying this. > I'm changing the subject line because I refuse to bring this into what > is and should remain a happy, positive thread. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yes it is you ignorant waste of space. Your buddy Phil agrees and has > said so hinself numerous times. http://groups.google.ca/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&q=phil+weight+loss+pound+mont h+cats > Isn't it just like to you inject your miserable crap into what should be > a congratulatory thread. Rene has done an outstanding job and your [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Megan Makes one wonder if she is as abusive to her cat as she is to those on the ng whom she thinks have weight problems. I wonder if she berates her cat and calls her cat "chubs", "fatty", etc.? Wouldn't surprise me one bit, if she did. -L. > > I'm changing the subject line because I refuse to bring this into > what [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Yes it is you ignorant waste of space. Your buddy Phil agrees and has > > said so hinself numerous times. http://groups.google.ca/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&q=phil+weight+loss+pound+mont h+cats > > Isn't it just like to you inject your miserable crap into what should > be [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > her cat and calls her cat "chubs", "fatty", etc.? Wouldn't surprise me > one bit, if she did. Oh, yes, I do! You have found me out. Meanwhile, do you kiss Jonathan with that mouth? What worries me about you is what a control freak like you will do to a child when that child does as children do--and fails to conform right away to your demands. Now that is something to worry about. After all, Jonathan understands English. Lyn wrote: >Makes one wonder if she is as abusive >to her cat as she is to those on the ng >whom she thinks have weight problems. She has admitted to hitting her cat. I criticized her for that when she first reared her ugly head and that is what set her off to humping my posts as though her very life depended on it. She'll probably claim she doesn't abuse her cat now, but considering the nasty behavior and lack of self-control she exhibits here, I wouldn't believe her for even a millisecond. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > Lyn wrote: > >Makes one wonder if she is as abusive [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > of self-control she exhibits here, I wouldn't believe her for even a > millisecond. It's true. I hang them by their little feetie feets and whip them mercilessly, all the while berating them. Everyone needs a hobby. zuz...@webtv.net wrote: > Lyn wrote: > >Makes one wonder if she is as abusive [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Megan Figures. -L. > I wonder if she berates >her cat and calls her cat "chubs", "fatty", etc.? Wouldn't surprise me >one bit, if she did. Ooh big deal. I use endearments like that for my overweight cat all the time. I'm sure his slimmer sibling calls him a 'big job' as well. -mhd hamandche...@betweentheknees.com wrote: (...) > Ooh big deal. I use endearments like that for my overweight cat all > the time. I'm sure his slimmer sibling calls him a 'big job' as well. Well, that's nuthin': *none* of my pets are overweight and I call each of them fat - 'oi! Fat rat/cat/gorilla!'. Mostly if they're eating. Or if I poke 'em in the stomach ... 'Oi! Fat cat belly!'. Mind you, I've now starting doing this to any animals I see, anywhere, including birds in the garden, squirrels, etc. S. > Well, that's nuthin': *none* of my pets are overweight and I call each > of them fat - 'oi! Fat rat/cat/gorilla!'. Mostly if they're eating. Or [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > S. LOL!!!! I go the other route. Whenever it's feeding time around here & I get the bowls out, the cats start to FREAK OUT, pace around my feet & generally make alot of noise. I look down at them & say 'Yes, I know, you are a poor, starving, Etheopian cat, who never ever gets fed....' They agree quite vigorusly.... Mathew Butler to 2 kittens: Chablis & Muscat En Vino Veritas > > I wonder if she berates > >her cat and calls her cat "chubs", "fatty", etc.? Wouldn't surprise me [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -mhd Cat abuser! > > > I wonder if she berates > > >her cat and calls her cat "chubs", "fatty", etc.? Wouldn't surprise me [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Cat abuser! Did I miss something? Signature-- ~kaeli~ Never argue with an idiot! People may not be able to tell you apart. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > > > > I wonder if she berates > > > >her cat and calls her cat "chubs", "fatty", etc.? Wouldn't surprise me [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Did I miss something? I'm playing. I think he got it. :) Lynnie speculates that I call my kitties names. Maurice commented so what if I do, then says that he does. Megan speculates that I beat them, too. Oo! Gotta go, I need to tighten Cheeky's rack a notch or two, she has stopped howling. :) > > > I wonder if she berates > > >her cat and calls her cat "chubs", "fatty", etc.? Wouldn't surprise me [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Cat abuser! You knew I was kidding, right Maurice? (Actually I am just trying to keep this thread alive because I love the subject line.) >> > I wonder if she berates >> >her cat and calls her cat "chubs", "fatty", etc.? Wouldn't surprise me [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Cat abuser! I agree. Chubs is one thing but big job is going too far. -mhd > >> > I wonder if she berates > >> >her cat and calls her cat "chubs", "fatty", etc.? Wouldn't surprise me [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I agree. Chubs is one thing but big job is going too far. > -mhd I call Buddha "AbundDANZA!" while making the appropriate Italian gestures. I'm sure they will be coming to confiscate her from this heinous abuse pretty soon. > > I'm changing the subject line because I refuse to bring this into > what [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Yes it is you ignorant waste of space. Your buddy Phil agrees and has > > said so hinself numerous times. http://groups.google.ca/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&q=phil+weight+loss+pound+ month+cats > > Isn't it just like to you inject your miserable crap into what should > be [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > -L. **Yes, I also suspected that, L. ML > > > I'm changing the subject line because I refuse to bring this into > > what [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > Yes it is you ignorant waste of space. Your buddy Phil agrees and has > > > said so hinself numerous times. http://groups.google.ca/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&q=phil+weight+loss+pound+ > month+cats > > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > **Yes, I also suspected that, L. So, Slim, have you bred your cat yet? > I'm changing the subject line because I refuse to bring this into what > is and should remain a happy, positive thread. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yes it is you ignorant waste of space. Your buddy Phil agrees and has > said so hinself numerous times. http://groups.google.ca/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&q=phil+weight+loss+pound+ month+cats > Isn't it just like to you inject your miserable crap into what should be > a congratulatory thread. Rene has done an outstanding job and your [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > - W.H. Murray I'm pretty much a newbie to usenet (again ;>) and, although I haven't said anything, I've been wondering why people leave *SO* much quoted text and make me have to scroll down for pages and pages before I get to a reply (well, one reason is, I'm learning, that not all newsreaders "thread" messages like mine does). [I also only recently learned what "top posting" is and why one shouldn't do it.] Now I think I understand about the quoting. Some of the things I've written have been snipped entirely, or snipped just enough to change the meaning of what I originally wrote, so I can see that quoting huge blocks of text is partly a courtesy and partly to give correct attributes. Because of this newfound revelation, I feel the need to comment here (even though I'll probably get flamed to a *crisp* for getting into the middle of this). This is the *entire* post that was being replied to here... Mary wrote: "Congratulations. How much Wellness are you feeding him? (And by the way, one pound a month for a cat is NOT slow weight loss. But I'm sure his vet has been supervising.) Tucker is a beautiful boy." Now, I've never had a cat with a weight problem, so I looked at this from the viewpoint of *MY* recent weight loss (over 100 pounds!!!). When someone said to me "one pound a week is NOT slow weight loss", it made me feel *GOOD* and I took it as a compliment and encouragement. Where *IN THE ENTIRETY* of the quoted text above is there "miserable crap"???? Megan, I have seen you post *dozens* of times that Mary "humps" (???) your posts, so, whatever that means, it may be why you reacted like this. But to me this looks like a pretty far stretch just to take the opportunity to tear into somebody and spew some pretty nasty venom (yes, I know, I've seen Mary do it to you too). Please don't bother to tell me all the horrible things Mary has done in the past. I am as reluctant to wade through that as I am to wade through what Mary may have to say about the horrible things you've done. Those of us who are newbies, or just new here, have in the past been chastised for posting "off topic", made fun of, patronized for posting "that's been done to death" threads, and diminished in many other ways. But how is any of that worse than all the petty in-fighting, name-calling, and other *OFF TOPIC* trash that the "old hands" throw around *CONSTANTLY*??!!! Talk about hypocrites! Take a look at your own posts Ms. Pot - yours, Ms. Kettle! No hugs for you! CatNipped (...) > Now I think I understand about the quoting. Some of the things I've written > have been snipped entirely, or snipped just enough to change the meaning of > what I originally wrote, so I can see that quoting huge blocks of text is > partly a courtesy and partly to give correct attributes. Yes, but it's mostly just annoying, although Google does try to hide quoted text. (...) > Where *IN THE ENTIRETY* of the quoted text above is there "miserable > crap"???? Sigh. IMO: Megan considers that Mary's post earlier in the thread represents 'miserable crap', specifically Megan believes that Mary's post was an attempt to attack the OP while superficially congratulating same. It is this 'miserable crap' (i.e., a backhanded compliment) that is being referred to. Whether the post was 'miserable crap' or not depends on whether one believes Mary's post was indeed intended with a read-between-the-lines undercurrent, or not. (...) > Please don't bother to tell me all the horrible things Mary has done in the > past. I am as reluctant to wade through that as I am to wade through what > Mary may have to say about the horrible things you've done. Like it or not, people have a 'history' here and that informs all posts made - true of all Usenet, basically. > Those of us who are newbies, or just new here, have in the past been > chastised for posting "off topic", made fun of, patronized for posting > "that's been done to death" threads, and diminished in many other ways. But > how is any of that worse than all the petty in-fighting, name-calling, and > other *OFF TOPIC* trash that the "old hands" throw around *CONSTANTLY*??!!! If you see others wallowing in the sh.t, it doesn't mean you need to do so too. > Talk about hypocrites! Take a look at your own posts Ms. Pot - yours, Ms. > Kettle! Well yeah, but you're doing the same thing here, too! You'll fit in perfectly. S. Catnipped wrote: >Where *IN THE ENTIRETY* of the >quoted text above is there "miserable >crap"???? It has already been explained. If you read the rest of the thread it will be obvious. Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > I'm pretty much a newbie to usenet (again ;>) and, although I haven't said > anything, I've been wondering why people leave *SO* much quoted text and > make me have to scroll down for pages and pages before I get to a reply > (well, one reason is, I'm learning, that not all newsreaders "thread" > messages like mine does). [I also only recently learned what "top posting" > is and why one shouldn't do it.] Not snipping is bad netiquette - you should leave only the relevant text. > Now I think I understand about the quoting. Some of the things I've written > have been snipped entirely, or snipped just enough to change the meaning of > what I originally wrote, so I can see that quoting huge blocks of text is > partly a courtesy and partly to give correct attributes. That's the only reason it should be done. > Because of this newfound revelation, I feel the need to comment here (even > though I'll probably get flamed to a *crisp* for getting into the middle of > this). This is the *entire* post that was being replied to here... > > Mary wrote: "Congratulations. How much Wellness are you feeding him? (And > by the way, one pound a month for a cat is NOT slow weight loss. But I'm > sure his vet has been supervising.) Tucker is a beautiful boy." [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > said to me "one pound a week is NOT slow weight loss", it made me feel > *GOOD* and I took it as a compliment and encouragement. Hey - you aren't a cat. 1 lb a week could easily be 10% of his body weight. It all depends on the cat. > Where *IN THE ENTIRETY* of the quoted text above is there "miserable > crap"???? I think Megan took it as another instance of the passive-agressiveness Mary exhibits on numerous occassions. She does it repeatedly on rpca, for example, because she can't be blatantly nasty there. > Megan, I have seen you post *dozens* of times that Mary "humps" (???) your > posts, so, whatever that means, Look at the heirarchy of posts in Google Groups. You will see that nearly any time Megan, Cheryl or I post *anything* Mary replies with vile filth, usually calling names or berating the poster. That's called "humping". It's stalking behavior. >it may be why you reacted like this. But to > me this looks like a pretty far stretch just to take the opportunity to tear > into somebody and spew some pretty nasty venom (yes, I know, I've seen Mary > do it to you too). Perhaps, but it isn't like Megan isn't a few cheap shots in the hole, if you know what I mean. <snip> -L. > Not snipping is bad netiquette - you should leave only the relevant > text. OK, now I'm confused! That's what I would have thought to begin with, but every group I visit seems *not* to snip. ;> > That's the only reason it should be done. Ah, OK, that makes sense. > That's > called "humping". It's stalking behavior. Ok, my bad (or rather my dirty mind) - I was taking a different meaning from it (or maybe not???). > <snip> OK, is the "<snip>" always needed? I see that a lot. Hugs, CatNipped > -L. > > Not snipping is bad netiquette - you should leave only the relevant > > text. > > OK, now I'm confused! That's what I would have thought to begin with, but > every group I visit seems *not* to snip. ;> It is condsidered a positive thing to snip if you do it without changing the meaning of the post. If you do it to take things out of context, like sleazebag Megan "Zuzu" the webbie no-life control freak does, then it is not good. > > That's the only reason it should be done. > > Ah, OK, that makes sense. > > > That's > > called "humping". It's stalking behavior. CN, when talking to Lynnie, try not to take any advice. And also, please remember that she is a moron. Even Cheryl can tell you from her old alt.hackers.malicious trolling days, that post-humping is answering a post just as soon as someone makes it. It shows that you are too eager. It's all part of that "hip Usenet" bullshit. :) I post when and how I like, so I don't bother with what losers like Lyn, Cherly, or Megan think. As for stalking, that is a criminal offense and is a real-life crime. Accusing someone of that is quite serious. Happily, nobody but loons consider posting in unmoderated Usenet groups as "stalking." Here is the loon count so far: first and foremost, Cherly the jackass, who googles me to hell and back, found nothing, then decided I was stalking her when I brought up her past in the troll groups. Second, Karen, who accused me of stalking when I posted in rec.pets.cats. anecdotes, even though I had posted there many times before. Somehow my posting in that group constituted "following" Karen. Though Karen has never been too bright a bulb, that is when Grant was dying, so, you know ... And third, Lynnie here, who thinks my posting anywhere she does not want me to post (and we are talking unmoderated Usenet groups here) constitutes "stalking." Hope that helps. "Mary" <marys@catlovernospam.com> wrote > > As for stalking, that is a criminal offense and is a real-life > crime. Accusing someone of that is quite serious. Happily, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > not want me to post (and we are talking unmoderated > Usenet groups here) constitutes "stalking." I forgot Steve! Steve G. said that when I post to Lyn in *this* group, I am stalking her. Specifically when she changes emails and I announce it. Stevie said, and I quote, "that's stalking or at the very best, off-topic posting." So he gets to join the loon patrol. The reason I like to post when Lynnie and Cheryl change their emails is because when I changed mine, Cheryl accused me of "changing my identity." 8) Even though I still posted with my name. Mary. Heh. This is just high comedy. As anyone knows who actually reads the group, all I do is post about cats and give crap to those who give me crap. Very simple. <snip> > > That's > > called "humping". It's stalking behavior. > > Ok, my bad (or rather my dirty mind) - I was taking a different meaning from > it (or maybe not???). Well, that's the concept - just envision a horny, little, obnoxious poodle following you around the ng, humping your leg... ;) > > <snip> > > OK, is the "<snip>" always needed? I see that a lot. Just shows that other conversation has been omitted. A courtesy more than anything. Usenet is all about context. You should always leave relevant quotes in their entirety - but snipping that which doesn't pertain is acceptable. Where you get into trouble is taking things out of context (over-snipping) and making it appear as if the person is saying something entirely different than what was intended. Does that make it any more clear? -L. > > I'm pretty much a newbie to usenet (again ;>) and, although I haven't > said [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > Mary exhibits on numerous occassions. She does it repeatedly on rpca, > for example, because she can't be blatantly nasty there. I am nasty because maliciously stupid people make me nasty. YOU are the people nasty was made for, hoss. You and Megan. What ever happened to that "you can run but you can't hide" thing you had going a couple of months ago? You know, where you were going to get my ISP to yank my account because you don't like the way I post. How's that working for you, Lynnie? lol >> I'm changing the subject line because I refuse to bring this >> into what is and should remain a happy, positive thread. [quoted text clipped - 98 lines] > Talk about hypocrites! Take a look at your own posts Ms. Pot - > yours, Ms. Kettle! Waiting anxiously for your next "apology" thread. ;) > No hugs for you! Now, that cracked me up. Reminded me of Seinfeld and the Soup Nazi. NEXT!! heheheh > CatNipped One comment: Snipping is considered Usenet etiquette and even if many don't practice it, there is nothing "creative" about it when just a sentance is left that one is replying to. Its assumed that you've read the posts prior to it and know what has already been discussed. If you don't know, you're supposed to go back yourself and find out. That's one thing that drives me crazy about this group. Having to scroll down several irrelevant paragraphs to find a reply. What's worse is to find that the only reply is "me too!" or "I don't know but maybe someone else will chime in". SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > > No hugs for you! > Now, that cracked me up. Same here. ;-) > Reminded me of Seinfeld and the Soup Nazi. > NEXT!! heheheh Heh - yes, you're right! Cathy > Waiting anxiously for your next "apology" thread. ;) LOL. Nope! I made up my mind to not take this any further than this no matter how this was responded to, and I won't. And I'm not going to apologize for this one post. I know, I probably shouldn't have taken it even this far on the group since I was provoked offlist, but I *was* provoked to say what I did (and that's all I'm going to say about it). I've been really good about just ignoring other provocations since my last apology so I wouldn't have to apologize again (at least not for the next week or so! ;>). > > No hugs for you! > > Now, that cracked me up. Reminded me of Seinfeld and the Soup Nazi. > NEXT!! heheheh I *LOVED* that episode!! > One comment: Snipping is considered Usenet etiquette and even if > many don't practice it, there is nothing "creative" about it when [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > a reply. What's worse is to find that the only reply is "me too!" > or "I don't know but maybe someone else will chime in". Oh gawd I hate that - especially when a kitty is sitting on my lap and I have to streeeeetch out to roll my roller mouse to scroll and scroll and scroll only to read, "Me too"! ARGH!! But I really am confused about snip or not snip or snip but type "<snip>" or top post (which *I* like because my newsreader threads and it saves me from what I just described above). Oh well, I'll learn - one can't be a newbie forever! ;> Hugs, CatNipped > -- > Cheryl > > "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited > breath." > - W.C. Fields > >> I'm changing the subject line because I refuse to bring this > >> into what is and should remain a happy, positive thread. [quoted text clipped - 117 lines] > a reply. What's worse is to find that the only reply is "me too!" > or "I don't know but maybe someone else will chime in". But what is really great is that nobody gives a f.ck what you think. That is the best thing of all, chica. :) <snip> What's worse is to find that the only reply is "me too!" > or "I don't know but maybe someone else will chime in". ...or even worse - the inane "LOL" one-liner. I swear, some people post just to hear themselves "talk". -L. > <snip> > What's worse is to find that the only reply is "me too!" [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -L. I've noticed that about you but I didn't want to say anything. "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote: > I'm pretty much a newbie to usenet (again ;>) and, although I > haven't said anything, In the last two minutes? > I've been wondering why people leave *SO* much quoted text and > make me have to scroll down for pages and pages before I get to > a reply (well, one reason is, I'm learning, that not all > newsreaders "thread" messages like mine does). Every reader I have seen threads messages. Since they are free, there's every reason to have a reader which threads messages. > [I also only recently learned what "top posting" is and why one > shouldn't do it.] Especially when you are asking for advice/help. > Now I think I understand about the quoting. Some of the things > I've written have been snipped entirely, or snipped just enough > to change the meaning of what I originally wrote, so I can see > that quoting huge blocks of text is partly a courtesy and partly > to give correct attributes. Another reason all of the text is left is because the reply author is too lazy. Correctly snipping text can do a lot of good. Like a reader doesn't have to guess what you are replying to, and might be more likely to read the text you are replying to. Snipping irrelevant text and posting in context can help greatly with communications. If you need information or help, those are the basics. Correctly snipping text and posting in context also helps those of us who use the archives, looking for information. Personally I don't like to snip or top post...unless I can do them simultaneously.....this is one of the things that you can banter back and forth forever and it will never be solved........actually the people who don't snip for whatever reason are the ones who start top posting......and I have to admit sometimes I would rather see a top post so I don't have to scroll through pages of useless information that doesn't pertain to the subject......flames, trolls, top posting, to snip or not to snip will never be solved by anyone.......usenet is and has been the wild wooly west of the internet and is not for the meek, no one is going to change it...... Brad LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" > Personally I don't like to snip or top post...unless I can do > them simultaneously.....this is one of the things that you can > banter back and forth forever and it will never be > solved........ That's partly because it depends on the situation. actually the > people who don't snip for whatever reason are the ones who start > top posting......and I have to admit sometimes I would rather [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY > WORN OUT, SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" The link did not work for me! > Some of you might remember my Tucker's weight-loss journey. For five > months, he's been on a diet to lose five pounds. It's been slow, but [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Rene >His latest 16 lb photos are not yet >posted, though. :( His skinny pic has just been added! Congratulations on a job well done!!! Megan Signature"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray > Some of you might remember my Tucker's weight-loss journey. For five > months, he's been on a diet to lose five pounds. It's been slow, but [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Rene He looks beautiful! What was your method? I have slimmed down my Peewee a bit over the last couple of months by feeding mainly canned food (less cat chow), including Purina D/M (diabetic diet). I still want him a bit on the chubby side because he's older, but he's looking pretty good. -L. L, If you read my description on the web site, you can read what happened and what I did. I stopped feeding dry (prescription) weight loss food and switched to Wellness canned. I purchased a digital scale to weigh him weekly (so he wouldn't lose weight too quickly--very bad). As he lost weight, I slowly cut back on the amount of food he got. I learned that Tucker must have a s-l-o-w metabolism. He's eating less than a cat his size usually would eat. I don't recommend my amounts to everyone; it should be based on your cat's age, health, activity levels, and of course, talking to your vet. It will be interesting to see how he does once I up his intake of food to _maintain_ this weight. Rene > L, > > If you read my description on the web site, you can read what happened > and what I did. Ok, ok - I just went to the photo gallery. :) I stopped feeding dry (prescription) weight loss food > and switched to Wellness canned. I purchased a digital scale to weigh > him weekly (so he wouldn't lose weight too quickly--very bad). As he [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Rene I will go read, but did you increase his activity lebel at all? I found using the CatDancer twice daily got my boy more active and seemed to help with the loss. But he's also 14, so I took it a bit eay on him! ;) Either way, he's a handsome cat! -L. I will go read, but did you increase his activity lebel at all? I found using the CatDancer twice daily got my boy more active and seemed to help with the loss. But he's also 14, so I took it a bit eay on him! ;) L, I did try and increase his activity level, but it wasn't much more than he already was doing. (He has a kitty brother and they play every day, plus the house has two floors and a basement.) I also bring him out on walks on the harness when the weather is nice. Rene > Some of you might remember my Tucker's weight-loss journey. For > five months, he's been on a diet to lose five pounds. It's been [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Rene Great work Rene!! SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields |
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