Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / April 2005
Glucosamine for Arthritis/Broken Joints
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Elle - 05 Apr 2005 19:30 GMT Sunday I became the proud foster parent of a 1-2 year old male with a broken (but mending) hind leg. The caretaker of this cat (among many rescue cats; she founded an organization) said she believes cats with broken bones have a propensity to develop arthritis, and she wanted to put him on Glucosamine (Chondroitin) to help prevent this. She was clear that it wasn't a proven preventive medicine, but she feels it might help. I know many humans take this and claim results. I googled a bit and there does seem to be a lot of anecdotal support for the stuff, for cats and humans alike, for starters.
Can I buy this cheap at Wal-Mart and give it to my cat? Anyone know how much is the right amount or have a quick web site citation that discusses this?
Kind of an update: As some of you may recall, I lost my little cat March 23. Sunday I went to PetsMart "just" to look at the cats that a certain rescue organization in my area brings in every Sunday for adoption or foster parenting. I got into a chat with the founder and mentioned that in a few years or so I might adopt another cat but he/she would be an older one with an injury who presumably would be less wanted. She said she had an adult cat back at her ranch who had recently broken its leg. She invited me to drive the few miles to meet him and consider fostering. I said I had to think about it for a few minutes. She was cool about it and wasn't pushy. Long-story short: He's a gentle affectionate fellow who makes me very happy and whom I hope I am giving good care. We see a feline orthopod specialist on Thursday, paid for by the Rescue organization, as the Rescue org is weighing whether an operation might help. I cover food and kitty litter and will also probably buy the Glucosamine, as it doesn't appear expensive when purchased at, say, Wal-Mart. I'll ask the vet for more info on Thursday, but I want to be well-prepared.
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Karen - 05 Apr 2005 19:42 GMT > Sunday I became the proud foster parent of a 1-2 year old male with a broken > (but mending) hind leg. The caretaker of this cat (among many rescue cats; [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > this and claim results. I googled a bit and there does seem to be a lot of > anecdotal support for the stuff, for cats and humans alike, for starters. The vet is right. Bone injuries are prone to arthritis. It is how we figure my cat got such bad arthritis in her knee and leg. Glucosomine is very helpful and since he has only just broken his leg, may be a very good preventative for him. It probably will not STOP it from forming but it slows it down. It is helpful. My vet had a cat come in with terrible bone chips and problems. NOTHING helped. At the time she did not think products like Cosequin were anything more than quackery. Finally, after even the vet University in the next state said there was nothing that could be done, she gave the owner a box of Cosequin she had been given by a pharmaceutical co figuring it wouldn't hurt at least. 8 weeks later she was astonished when this cat came in that previously couldn't even jump on the couch, could jump and move 10 times better than before. It definitely has helped my Pearl. It does, however, need to be high grade, but 18.00 covers about a 3 month supply so I don't think it is that pricey. One capsule a day sprinkled on food. Congrats on your new friend!!!!!
Elle - 06 Apr 2005 02:08 GMT > "Elle" <elle_navorski@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote > > Sunday I became the proud foster parent of a 1-2 year old male with a [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > food. > Congrats on your new friend!!!!! Thanks for all of the above, Karen. Six dollars a month extra for this cat is a pittance in view of all the love he gives, afaic.
Gentle note: The woman who was recommending this is not a vet. She's a highly experienced cat taker whose suggestions, like yours and so many people's here, are invaluable and often afaic superior to a vet's.
Meghan Noecker - 06 Apr 2005 12:38 GMT >Sunday I became the proud foster parent of a 1-2 year old male with a broken >(but mending) hind leg. The caretaker of this cat (among many rescue cats; [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >this and claim results. I googled a bit and there does seem to be a lot of >anecdotal support for the stuff, for cats and humans alike, for starters. Yes, bone injuries do tend to lead to early arthritis, and it certainly wouldn't hurt to give the supplement. I have seen it work wonders in my elderly cat.
>Can I buy this cheap at Wal-Mart and give it to my cat? Anyone know how much >is the right amount or have a quick web site citation that discusses this? I buy tablets that are tuna flavored. I have seen them in the grocery stores, Walmart, and pet stores. Just look with the fleat treatments and other supplements.
I also feed Royal Canin's Senior formula as it has glucosamine in the fppd as well. Not as much as the tablets. But my cat won't alwasy eat the tablets every day. So, this way, I know he is getting a steady amount of it.
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Elle - 06 Apr 2005 15:59 GMT Thanks for sharing your experience, Meghan. I will check WalMart's and PetsMart today.
Related aside: I'm watching this cat's diet very closely, in view of this tragedy with my previous cat (diabetes at age 7.5 years, no doubt brought on in large part by being a bit overweight) and my knowledge of the many other cats who suffer from being overweight. I am buying a scale today and am checking caloric contents with companies and a great web site from the Feline Diabetes Message Board. I'm already measuring out quantities of dry food and canned food and will start him on 22 Calories/pound . I see 13-25 Calories/pound is what seems to work for people. I'd like to go all canned food, but until I officially adopt this cat, I feel I have to take orders from the Rescue organization for whom I am fostering. They give their cats a mix of dry food and canned food. Comments welcome.
> Yes, bone injuries do tend to lead to early arthritis, and it > certainly wouldn't hurt to give the supplement. I have seen it work > wonders in my elderly cat. snip
> I buy tablets that are tuna flavored. I have seen them in the grocery > stores, Walmart, and pet stores. Just look with the fleat treatments [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the tablets every day. So, this way, I know he is getting a steady > amount of it. zuzu22@webtv.net - 06 Apr 2005 16:44 GMT Elle, You have to be *very* careful about many commercial glucosamine supplements as not all contain what they say they do. (Check http://www.consumerlab.com for more info.) For one cat, you are better off buying Cosequin. There is a website where you can get a 4 pack for about $55.00, which translates to about $0.17 per capsule. http://vetmeddirect.com/sbsite.php?&i=Cosequin+for+Cats%2C+80+Capsules+-+4+Pack
As for the food issue, why not just tell the group about your experience with diabetes, what you've learned about dry food, and ask if they would mind if you feed him all canned? I doubt they'd say no.
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Elle - 06 Apr 2005 18:02 GMT Thanks, Megan. I'll mention the Cosequin tomorrow when young Truman (my adorable rescue foster cat with the mending hind leg) sees the orthopedic specialist.
I'll consider your suggestion about talking to the rescue group. I want to be persuasive without being pushy. I think timing and wording are everything, for the sake of helping as many cats as possible for the long run. This group has come a long way in the last few years, recently attaining official not-for-profit status, which is a big deal. I'm a relative newbie and think I should tread lightly. I hope that makes sense.
> Elle, > You have to be *very* careful about many commercial glucosamine [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > where you can get a 4 pack for about $55.00, which translates to about > $0.17 per capsule. http://vetmeddirect.com/sbsite.php?&i=Cosequin+for+Cats%2C+80+Capsules+-+4+P ack
> As for the food issue, why not just tell the group about your experience > with diabetes, what you've learned about dry food, and ask if they would > mind if you feed him all canned? I doubt they'd say no. ML Richardson - 23 Apr 2005 23:31 GMT Our German Shepherd has been taking Cosequin for several months. (I know, not a cat... but our cats don't need it yet.) The change is amazing. No more limping, she runs again, etc.
That said, our vet told us that Cosequin is the purest form of glucosamine available. He takes it himself, rather than buy the stuff at Wal-Mart. It's expensive for our dog, but completely worth it. If you can manage, do get the good stuff.
> Thanks, Megan. I'll mention the Cosequin tomorrow when young Truman (my > adorable rescue foster cat with the mending hind leg) sees the orthopedic [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >>with diabetes, what you've learned about dry food, and ask if they would >>mind if you feed him all canned? I doubt they'd say no.
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