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Diane L. Schirf - 03 Apr 2005 19:19 GMT
This is one of my pet peeves -- some of those people who jog with their
dog in tow. Now, it never seems to occur to them that running at a set
speed for miles may not be the dog's idea of a good time. (Dogs seem to
prefer things like chasing Frisbees and squirrels.) But what made this
come to mind is what I saw on Friday -- a woman was jogging with her dog
attached by a leash. The dog needed a potty break and stopped to lift
his leg. The woman stopped for maybe a second, enough for the dog to
start getting a few drops out, and then started jogging again *before*
he'd even had a chance to lower his leg, let alone relieve himself.
Maybe he was just marking, but still -- why couldn't she have let him
stop for a minute? Is it that much of an inconvenience? Why have a dog
then?

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Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Apr 2005 21:24 GMT
> This is one of my pet peeves -- some of those people who jog with
> their dog in tow. Now, it never seems to occur to them that running
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> still -- why couldn't she have let him stop for a minute? Is it that
> much of an inconvenience? Why have a dog then?

Have you owned a dog before?

In my experience, a two mile walk would take five hours if the dog got
to stop every time he wanted to.  Also, many places have ubiquitous
leash laws and may not have dog parks, so chasing frisbees and
squirrels may not be an option.

On the other hand, you can train dogs pretty well to work with you.  We
used to take my dog on bike rides with our coaster brake bikes.  It was
the only way we could "run" at his speed, and he loved it.  He also had
a large yard, though, and we'd also take him on walks where we'd
(illegally) let him offleash to romp around the local streams and such.

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ceb - 04 Apr 2005 16:57 GMT
> This is one of my pet peeves -- some of those people who jog with
> their dog in tow. Now, it never seems to occur to them that running at
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> she have let him stop for a minute? Is it that much of an
> inconvenience? Why have a dog then?

My dogs love to go out for walks and always look wistfully at runners
going by -- they like to run when my neighbor takes them out. I can't
run, but I know they wish I did... really, the faster we can go and the
more ground we can cover, the better they like it. They also like slow,
"sniffy" walks where not much ground is covered but every smell is
thoroughly analyzed and appreciated.

And one of my dogs is a marker. Honestly, after you've stopped for the
20th time so she can "pee," you really don't worry too much about
rushing her along. She doesn't *need* to mark. The serious elimination
is done towards the beginning of the walk.

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Orchid - 04 Apr 2005 19:59 GMT
>This is one of my pet peeves -- some of those people who jog with their
>dog in tow. Now, it never seems to occur to them that running at a set
>speed for miles may not be the dog's idea of a good time.

    You've obviously never owned a decent-sized dog.  The general
exercise recommendation for a Labrador Retriever is _5-6 miles a day_.
Dogs need much more exercise than they generally get -- a tired dog is
a happy dog.  Dogs that aren't given the kind of exercise they need
tend to be overweight, neurotic, obsessive-compulsive, and
destructive.

>(Dogs seem to
>prefer things like chasing Frisbees and squirrels.)

    I beg to differ.  Some dogs like to chase Frisbees -- many
couldn't care less.  Some dogs like to chase squirrels (and cats and
rabbits and smaller dogs) and kill them.  Some dogs are ball-crazy,
some are exercise-avoidant (Bassets!), and some will run you until you
drop and still want more (huskies and malamutes come to mind).

>But what made this
>come to mind is what I saw on Friday -- a woman was jogging with her dog
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>stop for a minute? Is it that much of an inconvenience? Why have a dog
>then?

    You don't know her dog, and you don't have any context on the
situation.  Most dogs perform the bulk of their elimination at the
very beginning of their walk.  I wouldn't be surprised if he was
playing the marking game.  Also, most dogs have 2-3 'potty walks' a
day and 1-2 'exercise walks'.

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Steve G - 04 Apr 2005 22:56 GMT
> >This is one of my pet peeves -- some of those people who jog with their
> >dog in tow. Now, it never seems to occur to them that running at a set
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> tend to be overweight, neurotic, obsessive-compulsive, and
> destructive.

In my trail running group, many people have dogs and run with them.
Most have labs of various kinds (I think - not a dog person), but
there's also the odd GSD and a collie (? little mad sheepdog thing).
They can all keep up for 1hr (7-9 miles), and the collie probably does
double the distance...! All seem to love it. Oi - the running, that is.

The worst is when one of the dogs begins you get tired, and the human
behind it goes for a header when the mutt decides to take a breather.
No trail etiquette, the buggers.

(...)
> rabbits and smaller dogs) and kill them.  Some dogs are ball-crazy,
> some are exercise-avoidant (Bassets!), and some will run you until you
> drop and still want more (huskies and malamutes come to mind).

Much as I'm not a dog person, I do love the look and athleticism of
Malamutes - not much good for running in hot weather though, I expect!

Steve.
Meghan Noecker - 05 Apr 2005 01:22 GMT
>    I beg to differ.  Some dogs like to chase Frisbees -- many
>couldn't care less.  Some dogs like to chase squirrels (and cats and
>rabbits and smaller dogs) and kill them.  Some dogs are ball-crazy,
>some are exercise-avoidant (Bassets!), and some will run you until you
>drop and still want more (huskies and malamutes come to mind).

I was out skating a couple weeks ago, and this lady came by with a
husky type dog hauling a.s - hers! She was on skates, just holding
onto the leash. He was having a blast. I saw them and thought  - I
gotta get me one of those. I could spend the first part trying to keep
up, and when I get tired, let him take me home.

I would love to have a dog I could take with my skating. But I would
make sure it was an athletic dog, and I would make sure he was good
with commands, and not easily distracted. I would not want to be
attached to a dog that suddenly veers off the path to chase a
squirrel.

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kaeli - 05 Apr 2005 14:46 GMT
> I would love to have a dog I could take with my skating. But I would
> make sure it was an athletic dog, and I would make sure he was good
> with commands, and not easily distracted. I would not want to be
> attached to a dog that suddenly veers off the path to chase a
> squirrel.

Have you heard of skijoring?  Some people do it with roller blades instead of
skis...   :)

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Diane L. Schirf - 05 Apr 2005 02:35 GMT
> >This is one of my pet peeves -- some of those people who jog with their
> >dog in tow. Now, it never seems to occur to them that running at a set
> >speed for miles may not be the dog's idea of a good time.
>
>     You've obviously never owned a decent-sized dog.

I used to walk a German shepherd for a friend. By the time I was done
walking him and using a Frisbee on him, I almost had to carry him back
up the stairs. ;)

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kaeli - 04 Apr 2005 20:33 GMT
> This is one of my pet peeves -- some of those people who jog with their
> dog in tow. Now, it never seems to occur to them that running at a set
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> stop for a minute? Is it that much of an inconvenience? Why have a dog
> then?

You don't have a dog, do you?  ;)
(if you do, you spoil it LOL)

Trust me, he didn't have to go.
If I stopped every time my dog wanted to, we'd never get very far before it
was time to go back!
Walks are for exercise (and training), not for playtime. We play at home.
Walking is not meandering. If I want to meander, I'll walk my cat. (and I do)

(I do train my dogs, though, to not relieve themselves while on walks unless
I say it's okay -- it's rude to the people whose lawn is getting pissed on.
Mine are trained to stay on the sidewalk unless told they may go on the
grass. If they're dying, they "ask" to go and I find an appropriate spot that
doesn't belong to someone. I carry bags with me JIC. )

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