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burhan_ace@hotmail.com - 30 Mar 2005 23:08 GMT
My cat is completely on wet food..... i used different brands of DRY
foods....
but no use....... my cat don`t even try it..... she is 1 year old.....
it there anyway i can encourage my cat to try the dry food
Monique Y. Mudama - 30 Mar 2005 23:23 GMT
> My cat is completely on wet food..... i used different brands of DRY
> foods....  but no use....... my cat don`t even try it..... she is 1 year
> old.....  it there anyway i can encourage my cat to try the dry food

Why do you want to?

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Karen - 30 Mar 2005 23:46 GMT
Err. Why? Do you know how many people *struggle* to get their cats on wet
food and off of dry? It's just plain healthier to be on wet.

> My cat is completely on wet food..... i used different brands of DRY
> foods....
> but no use....... my cat don`t even try it..... she is 1 year old.....
> it there anyway i can encourage my cat to try the dry food
Mary - 30 Mar 2005 23:49 GMT
> My cat is completely on wet food..... i used different brands of DRY
> foods....
> but no use....... my cat don`t even try it..... she is 1 year old.....
> it there anyway i can encourage my cat to try the dry food

Why do you want her to eat dry food?
FD701 - 31 Mar 2005 02:12 GMT
> My cat is completely on wet food..... i used different brands of DRY
> foods....
> but no use....... my cat don`t even try it..... she is 1 year old.....
> it there anyway i can encourage my cat to try the dry food

Have to chime in and say, why would you ? My cat always wanted dry and I am
lucky if can get him to eat 1 pouch of wet a week. I wish he wouldnt want to
eat that junk food all the time, but he really really doesnt like wet food
(he will lick the gravy off and leave the meat).
Dry food can cause urinary infections, is just scraped up junk and normally
stretched with unnessecary carbs, which will cause obesity and sluggishness.
(yes, my cat also doesnt like any of the expensive dry foods......)
If it is for convenience of feeding, get the one-feed-pouches. Then you dont
have to keep smelly cat-cans in the fridge.
Joe Canuck - 31 Mar 2005 04:47 GMT
> My cat is completely on wet food..... i used different brands of DRY
> foods....
> but no use....... my cat don`t even try it..... she is 1 year old.....
> it there anyway i can encourage my cat to try the dry food

Er, be happy your cat eats wet food.

It may actually be better for her.

i.e: less carbs and more moisture than dry.
Brian Link - 31 Mar 2005 08:47 GMT
>My cat is completely on wet food..... i used different brands of DRY
>foods....
>but no use....... my cat don`t even try it..... she is 1 year old.....
>it there anyway i can encourage my cat to try the dry food

It seems to be the consensus that wet food is in fact better than dry,
for a number of reasons.

Don't fight it.. embrace it! =)

BLink
MaryL - 31 Mar 2005 10:11 GMT
> My cat is completely on wet food..... i used different brands of DRY
> foods....
> but no use....... my cat don`t even try it..... she is 1 year old.....
> it there anyway i can encourage my cat to try the dry food

You are fortunate.  Good quality canned food is much better for your cat
than dry food.  Dry food has far too many carbs and fillers.  Just make sure
it is *good* quality such as Wellness, Felidae, or Innova -- not supermarket
fare.

MaryL
burhan_ace@hotmail.com - 31 Mar 2005 14:35 GMT
but all the wet foods are so soft.........  my cat don`t get any chance
to chew anything....
i thought by giving my cat dry food and wet food both......... i can
make its diet more balanced and appropriate.....one more thing......
wet foods don`t have vegetable in them....... where as whiskas dry food
(chicken and vegetable combined) ..... will have more vitamins ........
i m really concerned about whether my cats diet is balanced or not......
PawsForThought - 31 Mar 2005 14:56 GMT
> but all the wet foods are so soft.........  my cat don`t get any chance
> to chew anything....
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> (chicken and vegetable combined) ..... will have more vitamins ........
> i m really concerned about whether my cats diet is balanced or not......

A good food to exercise your cat's teeth and jaw muscles is chicken
gizzards.  You can feed them raw or cooked.  I feed them raw, but you
can lightly blanch them in a little butter if you want to feed them
cooked.
Diane L. Schirf - 31 Mar 2005 15:22 GMT
> wet foods don`t have vegetable in them....... where as whiskas dry food
> (chicken and vegetable combined) ..... will have more vitamins ........
> i m really concerned about whether my cats diet is balanced or not......

In nature, the cat family is the most carnivorous of groups -- they get
fewer "vegetable" than anyone else.

I feed Hodge wet for breakfast, dry for dinner. It seems to be the only
way to keep him from being either constipated or having diarrhea.

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Karen - 31 Mar 2005 17:09 GMT
Wellness and other premium foods do have veggies in them. It's true,
domesticated cats don't get to shred stuff but dry food really doesn't do
all that much for their teeth (contrary to popular belief) except get mushy
between cheek and gum and cause teeth problems. You need to get some guaze
and just rub her teeth down a couple of times a week. It will keep them
clean and the gums stimulated.

> but all the wet foods are so soft.........  my cat don`t get any chance
> to chew anything....
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> (chicken and vegetable combined) ..... will have more vitamins ........
> i m really concerned about whether my cats diet is balanced or not......
Phil P. - 31 Mar 2005 20:55 GMT
> but all the wet foods are so soft.........  my cat don`t get any chance
> to chew anything....

Cats don't chew food in the sense of mastication.  Their jaws don't have the
ability for lateral or rotary motion as do dogs and humans. The cats teeth
and jaws operate like shears to cut food rather than grind food as in
chewing.

http://www.maxshouse.com/feline_nutrition.htm

> i thought by giving my cat dry food and wet food both......... i can
> make its diet more balanced and appropriate.....one more thing......
> wet foods don`t have vegetable in them.......

Cats don't eat vegetables in nature and actually have no dietary need for
carbohydrates.  Dry foods contain 35%-41% carbohydrates and can lead to
obesity, diabetes and interstial cystitis in cats that are predisposed to
these diseases.

where as whiskas dry food
> (chicken and vegetable combined) ..... will have more vitamins ........

Not so.  All AAFCO canned diets contain proper vitamin and mineral levels.

> i m really concerned about whether my cats diet is balanced or not......

A good quality canned food that meets AAFCO nutrient profiles are properly
balanced.

Consider yourself very lucky because your cat likes canned food!  Many
people struggle to convert their cats to canned.

Phil
burhan_ace@hotmail.com - 31 Mar 2005 14:38 GMT
about the canned food..... here we have 2 brands available friskies (go
cat)
and whiskas.....
which one is better
Phil P. - 31 Mar 2005 21:02 GMT
> about the canned food..... here we have 2 brands available friskies (go
> cat)
> and whiskas.....
> which one is better

Of the two, I'd go with Friskies Sliced Gourmet Grill and/or Sliced Beef in
Gravy.  Both of these foods have meat as the first 3 out of 4 ingredients
and both contain very good phosphorus levels (.0.80%, 0.84%[DMB].

Phil
Mary - 02 Apr 2005 19:32 GMT
> > about the canned food..... here we have 2 brands available friskies (go
> > cat)
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>
> Phil

I took a look at the Fancy Feast our cats love and was surprised
to find that one variety--"Tender Beef Feast"--has as beef as its FIRST
ingredient, followed by beef broth, then beef byproducts, and the byproducts
are listed as heart, liver, etc. Since I am leaving Cheeks on this stuff due
to the fact that her asthma and allergies are nearly nil now and the vet
said he would not change anything I am doing, I wonder now if some
flavors of this junky food are better than others. I went to the site
but found no nutrition breakdown. I'll email them to see if I can
get info like phosphorus levels.
CatNipped - 02 Apr 2005 20:01 GMT
> > > about the canned food..... here we have 2 brands available friskies (go
> > > cat)
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> but found no nutrition breakdown. I'll email them to see if I can
> get info like phosphorus levels.

Phil mentioned that when I wrote that Fancy Feast was the only thing Bandit
would eat when she was hurt.  Seems like they have upgraded their formula.
I'd like to know what you find out about it if you wouldn't mind sharing.
Unfortunately Bandit only liked the "Cod, tuna, and something" flavor which
has a lot of phosphates in it.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Mary - 02 Apr 2005 22:08 GMT
> > I took a look at the Fancy Feast our cats love and was surprised
> > to find that one variety--"Tender Beef Feast"--has as beef as its FIRST
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> Phil mentioned that when I wrote that Fancy Feast was the only thing Bandit
> would eat when she was hurt.  Seems like they have upgraded their formula.

The cans now say "manufactured by Nestle/Purina Petcare." And I just noticed
that chicken is actually the first ingredient in Gourment Chicken Feast,
followed by chicken broth, liver, then meat by-products; and Salmon is
actually the first ingredient in Salmon Feast! This IS different because I
recall reading the cans on a sampling of the cat foods in the grocery and
only Iams
did NOT have byproducts as the first ingredient. Hmm. Otherwise, protein
is 11% on the chicken and 12% on the salmon; fat is 4-5%; crude fiber max.
of
1.5%; moisture max 78% (!); ash max. 3%; and taurine min. 0.05%.

Compared the above to Chopped Grill Feast flavor: the first ingredient is
meat byproducts, then meat broth, then poultry and poutlry byproducts. The
nutrient percentages are the same.

> I'd like to know what you find out about it if you wouldn't mind sharing.
> Unfortunately Bandit only liked the "Cod, tuna, and something" flavor which
> has a lot of phosphates in it.

I sure will let you know if/when I hear from them.
Phil P. - 03 Apr 2005 00:12 GMT
> > > I took a look at the Fancy Feast our cats love and was surprised
> > > to find that one variety--"Tender Beef Feast"--has as beef as its FIRST
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> did NOT have byproducts as the first ingredient. Hmm. Otherwise, protein
> is 11% on the chicken and 12% on the salmon;

12% protein and a 78% moisture content translates into about 54.5% protein
DMB. 11% protein translates into 49.94% protein DMB.  The "As Fed" moisture
content is actually 77% in several diets.   Plus the meat products are USDA.
None of the 8 diets I was interested in had phosphorus levels over 0.89%
DMB - Minced Beef and Sliced Beef are 0.75% Pi and 54% Protein DMB.

I had to try Fancy Feast as a last resort for one of my recupes with HL, so,
I wanted to know how 'bad' the food would really be for him... The next step
was a feeding tube.  Man, I was floored when I heard the nutrient levels!
They sounded too good to be true so I called back the next day and spoke to
a different person in a different department and got the same figures.

Btw, the HL cat pulled through just fine *without* the need for a feeding
tube!  He began eating the Grilled Chicken Feast in Gravy *voluntarily*.  So
I tried the Grilled Turkey Feast in Gravy - he *devoured* it!  If it wasn't
for him, I probably wouldn't have bothered to check Fancy Feast's nutrient
levels again.  A few years ago, the nutrient levels and ingredients weren't
very good.

I'm even thinking about switching the entire shelter canned food to Friskies
Sliced Gourmet Grill & Sliced Beef w/Gravy - not for the savings but because
of the excellent nutrition.  The Purina dry Chicken & Rice also has very low
phosphorus (>0.70% DMB) which make its an excellent winter food for my
ferals.

fat is 4-5%; crude fiber max.
> of
> 1.5%; moisture max 78% (!); ash max. 3%; and taurine min. 0.05%.
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>
> I sure will let you know if/when I hear from them.

Give them a call 1-800-933-0991 they'll give you all the information you ask
for over the phone.

Phil
Mary - 03 Apr 2005 00:28 GMT
> I'm even thinking about switching the entire shelter canned food to Friskies
> Sliced Gourmet Grill & Sliced Beef w/Gravy - not for the savings but because
> of the excellent nutrition.  The Purina dry Chicken & Rice also has very low
> phosphorus (>0.70% DMB) which make its an excellent winter food for my
> ferals.

Purina One Salmon and Tuna dry is Cheeky's great
addiction. She loves it, and as long as she is not
exhibiting many allergy symptoms that's what she'll
get.
sriddles@aol.com - 03 Apr 2005 00:47 GMT
> I had to try Fancy Feast as a last resort for one of my recupes with HL, so,
> I wanted to know how 'bad' the food would really be for him... The next step
> was a feeding tube.  Man, I was floored when I heard the nutrient levels!
> They sounded too good to be true so I called back the next day and spoke to
> a different person in a different department and got the same figures.

Fancy Feast Roasted Chicken is the one that got Yoda back eating after
HL. That's the first thing I buy if he seems to be getting off his
food. I just assumed since it was Fancy Feast it was horrible,
nutritionally. He also loves the Grilled chicken, and Grilled turkey. I
did notice that it smells pretty good.

> I'm even thinking about switching the entire shelter canned food to Friskies
> Sliced Gourmet Grill & Sliced Beef w/Gravy - not for the savings but because
> of the excellent nutrition.  The Purina dry Chicken & Rice also has very low
> phosphorus (>0.70% DMB) which make its an excellent winter food for my
> ferals.

That's good info.; because I also feed ferals. Are you talking about
Purina One brand, or the Purina Pro Plan Chicken & Rice? I feed mine,
currently, Purina One Salmon & Rice. Since they are barn cats, I am
pretty sure prey is their primary diet.  Pro Plan isn't too expensive,
comparatively anyway, if you buy it in the big buckets.

Sherry

>  fat is 4-5%; crude fiber max.
> > of
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>
> Phil
Phil P. - 03 Apr 2005 05:51 GMT
> > I had to try Fancy Feast as a last resort for one of my recupes with
> HL, so,
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> Fancy Feast Roasted Chicken is the one that got Yoda back eating after
> HL.

The Yo Man!  How's the little guy doing?  He's one cat I'll never forget!
What a trooper!  Seems like just a few months ago - but I know its been a
few years.

That's the first thing I buy if he seems to be getting off his
> food. I just assumed since it was Fancy Feast it was horrible,
> nutritionally. He also loves the Grilled chicken, and Grilled turkey. I
> did notice that it smells pretty good.

Those two have excellent nutrient levels.  Plus, four of the first 5
ingredients are meat products.

> > I'm even thinking about switching the entire shelter canned food to
> Friskies
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> Purina One brand, or the Purina Pro Plan Chicken & Rice? I feed mine,
> currently, Purina One Salmon & Rice.

Purina One.  Even Cat Chow comes in just under the phosphorus wire at 0.90%
along with the Senior.

Since they are barn cats, I am
> pretty sure prey is their primary diet.  Pro Plan isn't too expensive,
> comparatively anyway, if you buy it in the big buckets.

They're lucky - they have a dry winter shelter.

If the barn is on your property, have you considered using heated bowls in
the winter for water and canned food?  The only thing is you have to add
water to the canned food because the heated bowls dry out the canned food.
The heated water bowl has to be at least 5 quarts because heated water
evaporates much quicker in cold weather.  The good bowls are
thermostatically controlled to only operate when the temp approaches
freezing.

Give Yoda a scratch behind the ear for me. ;-)

Phil
sriddles@aol.com - 04 Apr 2005 01:34 GMT
> The Yo Man!  How's the little guy doing?  He's one cat I'll never forget!
> What a trooper!  Seems like just a few months ago - but I know its been a
> few years.

He's doing good. He hadn't been to the vet for anything in over a year;
he doesn't get vaccinated after the HL and I just procrastinated
because it's such a trauma for him. Anyhoo, we finally went and got a
blood panel done; the vet said everything was within normal ranges. He
*is* starting to act like an old cat though. Here's a current pic:

http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/yodabozzie.jpg

Yo is apparently in beginning stage Kitty Alzheimer since he has
forgotten the #1 Rule: NO Cats on the TAble. I can't think of an excuse
why Bosley is also on the table.  Truth is, he does pretty much what he
wants. He is a grand old cat.

Thanks for the tip about heated water bowls. I've seen some big ones in
the Stockman supply store, probably for dogs. It's very important to
keep fresh water out for barn cats, I was always afraid if they didn't
have water they'd try to drink out of the stock tank and fall in. That
happened when I was a kid.

Sherry
Diane L. Schirf - 04 Apr 2005 01:36 GMT
> Yo is apparently in beginning stage Kitty Alzheimer since he has
> forgotten the #1 Rule: NO Cats on the TAble. I can't think of an excuse
> why Bosley is also on the table.

They've clearly taken over. Alien invasion. :)

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Phil P. - 04 Apr 2005 10:19 GMT
> > The Yo Man!  How's the little guy doing?  He's one cat I'll never
> forget!
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> He's doing good. He hadn't been to the vet for anything in over a year;

Yay!

> he doesn't get vaccinated after the HL and I just procrastinated
> because it's such a trauma for him. Anyhoo, we finally went and got a
> blood panel done; the vet said everything was within normal ranges.

Aw that's just fantastic!

He
> *is* starting to act like an old cat though. Here's a current pic:
>
> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/yodabozzie.jpg
>
> Yo is apparently in beginning stage Kitty Alzheimer since he has
> forgotten the #1 Rule: NO Cats on the TAble.

That's just an act cats perfected because they know we'd get pissed if we
knew they really didn't care about our rules.  ;-)

I can't think of an excuse
> why Bosley is also on the table.  Truth is, he does pretty much what he
> wants. He is a grand old cat.

He certainly is.

The other night I had to watch hours of terrible commercials because my
oldest fell asleep on my hip - I could bring myself to disturb her.  Now I
sleep with the remote in my hand!  My cats get away with much more than any
human! LOL!

> Thanks for the tip about heated water bowls. I've seen some big ones in
> the Stockman supply store, probably for dogs.

Yep - the dog-size bowls are the best ones - they're at least 4-5 quarts.

It's very important to
> keep fresh water out for barn cats, I was always afraid if they didn't
> have water they'd try to drink out of the stock tank and fall in. That
> happened when I was a kid.

Oh geez! ;-(

One of my major problem is that in certain locations the shelters need to be
camouflaged and hidden from sight.  This really complicates building a
heated shelter and feeding station.

Kitten season started early this year over here.  How about by you?

Phil.
Phil P. - 04 Apr 2005 10:25 GMT
He
> *is* starting to act like an old cat though. Here's a current pic:
>
> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/yodabozzie.jpg

He sure looks strong and healthy!  ..and beautiful coloring!

Is he sticking his tongue out at you?? LOL!

Phil
Karen - 03 Apr 2005 01:18 GMT
> I'm even thinking about switching the entire shelter canned food to Friskies
> Sliced Gourmet Grill & Sliced Beef w/Gravy - not for the savings but because
> of the excellent nutrition.  The Purina dry Chicken & Rice also has very low
> phosphorus (>0.70% DMB) which make its an excellent winter food for my
> ferals.

Yes, my vet has said Purina has really "stepped up to the plate". I think
they are going to have to to survive actually. There are  no longer 3 brands
of food found only at the supermarket.
Mary - 03 Apr 2005 01:23 GMT
> > I'm even thinking about switching the entire shelter canned food to Friskies
> > Sliced Gourmet Grill & Sliced Beef w/Gravy - not for the savings but because
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> they are going to have to to survive actually. There are  no longer 3 brands
> of food found only at the supermarket.

You are such an idiot. Purina's been around for a hundred years, and there
is a reason for that kind of success.
-L. - 03 Apr 2005 09:14 GMT
<snip>

> I'm even thinking about switching the entire shelter canned food to Friskies
> Sliced Gourmet Grill & Sliced Beef w/Gravy - not for the savings but because
> of the excellent nutrition.  The Purina dry Chicken & Rice also has very low
> phosphorus (>0.70% DMB) which make its an excellent winter food for my
> ferals.

And to think of all the sh.t I took in here when I said I switched
Peewee to Purina One Sensitive Systems and that I feed Friskie's
canned, despite the fact that I said my vet OK'd it. <smirk>  a.sholes.

-L.
(Not you, Phil.)
Phil P. - 03 Apr 2005 11:52 GMT
> <snip>
>
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> -L.
> (Not you, Phil.)

Yes - I'm  included!  I've also criticized people for feeding Friskies and
Fancy Feast - but that was before Purina reformulated the diets.

Phil
equalizer - 03 Apr 2005 12:06 GMT
>> <snip>
>>
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>
>Phil

Thanks for being a "watchdog" of cat nutrition for us Phil -- I've added
these foods to my list and bought some this week to try.
Phil P. - 03 Apr 2005 13:33 GMT
> >> <snip>
> >>
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>
> Thanks for being a "watchdog" of cat nutrition for us Phil

If I wasn't so desperate to get an HL cat eating voluntarily, I probably
wouldn't have even bothered to look into Fancy Feast again - I'm glad I did.

-- I've added
> these foods to my list and bought some this week to try.

These are about the best:

Sliced Beef and Minced Beef are the lowest Pi - 0.75% DMB.

Grilled Chicken in Gravy - Pi - 0.84% DMB
Grilled Beef in Gravy ----- Pi - 0.88% DMB
Grilled Turkey in Gravy -- Pi  - 0.89% DMB

I'll bet you cats will love the Grilled Chicken in Gravy and Grilled Turkey
in Gravy.  Let me know, ok?

I was so shocked over the Pi levels and ingredients that I forgot to get the
kcals/gram/can!  I'll post the numbers after I call Purina back on Monday.
The protein is a little high, so you'll have to keep the serving sizes close
to the mark or they might gain weight.

Btw, I finally bought a case of Wysong Chicken because I was sure my cats
would eat it -- none of them would touch it.

Phil
Jean B. - 03 Apr 2005 23:14 GMT
> If I wasn't so desperate to get an HL cat eating voluntarily, I probably
> wouldn't have even bothered to look into Fancy Feast again - I'm glad I did.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Phil

What are the magnesium levels?

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Mary - 03 Apr 2005 23:20 GMT
> > If I wasn't so desperate to get an HL cat eating voluntarily, I probably
> > wouldn't have even bothered to look into Fancy Feast again - I'm glad I did.
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> >
> What are the magnesium levels?

I called the 800 number Phil gave me but it was busy.
equalizer - 05 Apr 2005 01:56 GMT
<SNIP>

>> Thanks for being a "watchdog" of cat nutrition for us Phil
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>I'll bet you cats will love the Grilled Chicken in Gravy and Grilled Turkey
>in Gravy.  Let me know, ok?

The three "normal" cats were fine with the Grilled Chicken. They'll eat
anything, gladly, I knew they would. Floppy, the weirdo, was the test
case. As you recall, he's only been eating canned now for about 2
months. Wellness Chicken, he'll eat right out of the dish with the other
cats reliably now. Any other canned, it's a battle. Wellness Beef and
Chicken, and Hill's Chicken, for instance -- he wouldn't touch either
one, until I nuked them. Now, he'll eat the Wellness Beef & Chicken
cold, but not out of the dish with the other cats. It has to be in his
own dish, placed on top of the kitchen table, then he chows it down.
Same thing tonite with the Fancy Feast, which smelled great to me, BTW.
The others went nuts on it. He wouldn't eat it until I put it in a
separate dish, nuked it, and put it up on the table.

>I was so shocked over the Pi levels and ingredients that I forgot to get the
>kcals/gram/can!  I'll post the numbers after I call Purina back on Monday.
>The protein is a little high, so you'll have to keep the serving sizes close
>to the mark or they might gain weight.

Shouldn't be a problem, as I'm going to buy FF as snacks. I was giving
them a small amount of dry in the evening. Now, I'll give a 3 oz can of
FF as a snack between the 4 of them. They get a 5.5 oz can between the 4
of them in the morning and get dry food in the auto feeder in the
afternoon -- 3/4 of a cup between the 4 of them.

eq

>Btw, I finally bought a case of Wysong Chicken because I was sure my cats
>would eat it -- none of them would touch it.
>
>Phil
-L. - 03 Apr 2005 17:49 GMT
> Yes - I'm  included!  I've also criticized people for feeding Friskies and
> Fancy Feast - but that was before Purina reformulated the diets.
>
> Phil

Well, you weren't the one giving *me* a hard time, at least...

-L.
Mary - 03 Apr 2005 20:31 GMT
> <snip>
>
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> -L.
> (Not you, Phil.)

Your reading comprehension fails again, Lynnie. The formula
has changed. When you fed it to your cats it was sh.t.
Phil P. - 03 Apr 2005 00:13 GMT
> > > about the canned food..... here we have 2 brands available friskies (go
> > > cat)
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> said he would not change anything I am doing, I wonder now if some
> flavors of this junky food are better than others.

Seems funny calling Fancy Feast junk food, now, doesn't it?  I still can't
believe I can honestly recommend it - but I do! Many of the diets contain
more protein, less phosphorus, more meat products and less plant material
than Wellness!  Ain't that a hoot!

I went to the site
> but found no nutrition breakdown. I'll email them to see if I can
> get info like phosphorus levels.

Give them a call 1-800-933-0991 they'll give you all the information you ask
for over the phone.

Phil
Mary - 03 Apr 2005 00:24 GMT
> > > > about the canned food..... here we have 2 brands available friskies
> (go
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> more protein, less phosphorus, more meat products and less plant material
> than Wellness!  Ain't that a hoot!

It really is--and it is a big relief that I can give my girls what they
really love and not feel guilty about it.

> I went to the site
> > but found no nutrition breakdown. I'll email them to see if I can
> > get info like phosphorus levels.
>
> Give them a call 1-800-933-0991 they'll give you all the information you ask
> for over the phone.

I'll do that, thanks!
Phil P. - 03 Apr 2005 06:07 GMT
> > > about the canned food..... here we have 2 brands available friskies (go
> > > cat)
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> ingredient, followed by beef broth, then beef byproducts, and the byproducts
> are listed as heart, liver, etc.

I was really surprised to see how much Fancy Feast and even Friskies
improved.

Hopefully, more shelters will start introducing a little canned food in
their cats' diets.  Mosts cats are dry food addicts because they were weaned
on and fed dry food in shelters.  Friskies is certainly cheap enough to feed
a little to each cat every day.  That would make feeding a canned
prescription diet easier if the need arises later in life.

Since I am leaving Cheeks on this stuff due
> to the fact that her asthma and allergies are nearly nil now and the vet
> said he would not change anything I am doing, I wonder now if some
> flavors of this junky food are better than others. I went to the site
> but found no nutrition breakdown. I'll email them to see if I can
> get info like phosphorus levels.

Call them - 1-800-933-0991 - you'll get more information right on the spot.
They're very good about giving out nutrient levels.

Phil
deek1990 - 31 Mar 2005 16:09 GMT
one of my cats never ate a piece of dry cat food in his 17 years.  If
I tried to sneak a piece in his wet food, he would spit it out.  He
considered dry food to be pebbles, even though he sat beside the other
2 cats while they were munching on their dry food. We had to give up
trying.
FatBobRoundPants - 31 Mar 2005 18:56 GMT
> My cat is completely on wet food..... i used different brands of DRY
> foods....
> but no use....... my cat don`t even try it..... she is 1 year old.....
> it there anyway i can encourage my cat to try the dry food

we take some dry food and give it a quick crushing ( many ways to do this,
with a kitchen meat mallet, can use a food processor or blender, etc.) and
mix with cool-warm water for a minute or so until there is a gravy. both
cats LOVE it and it works great as a treat.
FatBobRoundPants - 31 Mar 2005 18:56 GMT
Oh, and really REALLY try to get a superior quality brand dry food.

> My cat is completely on wet food..... i used different brands of DRY
> foods....
> but no use....... my cat don`t even try it..... she is 1 year old.....
> it there anyway i can encourage my cat to try the dry food
---MIKE--- - 31 Mar 2005 20:25 GMT
One dry food that could have a minimal benefit to the teeth is Friskies
Dental Diet.  The pieces are large enough that the cat has to bite into
them to break them into smaller pieces.  I only use this as a treat
since I prefer them to eat canned food most of the time.

                 ---MIKE---
soft - 01 Apr 2005 18:11 GMT
>One dry food that could have a minimal benefit to the teeth is Friskies
>Dental Diet.  The pieces are large enough that the cat has to bite into
>them to break them into smaller pieces.  I only use this as a treat
>since I prefer them to eat canned food most of the time.
>
>                  ---MIKE---

or a quality food - Royal Canin Maine Coon formula - it has large
chunks so cats have to bite it.

soft

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