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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / March 2005Major cat abuse case going to court 3/25/05
http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ > http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ Why did I click on that? I feel ill. And very, very pissed. I hope that f.ck gets the same treatment in prison. Pardon my french.  Signature-- ~kaeli~ Why do they lock gas station bathrooms? Are they afraid someone will clean them? http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace >> http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ > >Why did I click on that? I feel ill. And very, very pissed. I felt the same way after reading that. :( >I hope that f.ck gets the same treatment in prison. Pardon my french. Will he actually go to prison? If so, I hope so too! Justin - wishing they would bring back the firing squad for scum like this. > >> http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ > > > >Why did I click on that? I feel ill. And very, very pissed. > > I felt the same way after reading that. :( That's entirely my fault. I neglected to spoiler the post. Mea culpa maxima. > > >> http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ > > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > That's entirely my fault. I neglected to spoiler the post. Mea culpa maxima. The subject line is clear enough. Everyone could tell what they were in for if they clicked. No culpa here, sua or otherwise. For example, I did not click on it. > The subject line is clear enough. Everyone could tell what they were > in for if they clicked. No culpa here, sua or otherwise. For > example, I did not click on it. I thought it was going to be a more generic news story. I didn't expect such graphic details. Actually, I don't they really needed to post it quite the way they did. They could have conveyed the same information without using the vocabulary they did and without going into the level of detail they did. I'm not joking when I say it made me sick to my stomach. It's like when the local news covers car crashes. They could cover the story without showing the poor victim getting loaded into the ambulance with blood all over, you know? Signature-- ~kaeli~ If you don't pay your exorcist, you get repossessed. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace >> The subject line is clear enough. Everyone could tell what they were in for >> if they clicked. No culpa here, sua or otherwise. For example, I did not [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the poor victim getting loaded into the ambulance with blood all over, you > know? The whole point of that site seems to be to educate people about cruelty. It would be hard to believe any human being was capable of such deeds if you didn't read it directly, wouldn't it? A site called pet-abuse.com ... seems like it's pretty obvious that it won't be a happy place. I guess I just disagree with you. And I hope there really is a hell, just so this guy can fry in it for eternity. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > I guess I just disagree with you. And I hope there really is a hell, just so > this guy can fry in it for eternity. That's okay, we sure agree on that latter statement!!! Signature-- ~kaeli~ The Bermuda Triangle got tired of warm weather. It moved to Finland. Now Santa Claus is missing. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > > The subject line is clear enough. Everyone could tell what they were > > in for if they clicked. No culpa here, sua or otherwise. For [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > without showing the poor victim getting loaded into the ambulance with blood > all over, you know? Yes, I know what you mean. However, I think "major cat abuse" tells me all I need to know in order to know that I don't want to open the link. The story YOU posted of the cat that was tortured and videotaped is what formed my new "policy." :) > Yes, I know what you mean. However, I think "major cat abuse" > tells me all I need to know in order to know that I don't want to > open the link. The story YOU posted of the cat that was tortured > and videotaped is what formed my new "policy." :) I don't recall that story having so much graphic detail right in the beginning with no warning. Maybe it did and I don't remember it. Maybe there's another reason this one in particular hit me harder than most. Maybe I'm getting tired of letters to editors and judges getting ignored (when I write about the laughably light sentences abusers get). Or maybe I'm just PMS chick this week. Signature-- ~kaeli~ The Bermuda Triangle got tired of warm weather. It moved to Finland. Now Santa Claus is missing. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > > Yes, I know what you mean. However, I think "major cat abuse" > > tells me all I need to know in order to know that I don't want to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Or maybe I'm just PMS chick this week. In any case, nobody is right or wrong--we're all just different. Best of luck with the estrogen poisoning. Mine was last week. This week I am my usual SUNNY self! lol!!!!!! 8) > > http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ > > Why did I click on that? I feel ill. And very, very pissed. > > I hope that f.ck gets the same treatment in prison. Pardon my french. Well I'm glad I opted not to--but I am very happy the case is going to court. I watched Animal Planet last night and saw two women get cuffed and hauled off for putting 13 newborn puppies in a garbage can and it felt good. Unfortunately only 2 of the dogs made it. I was really impressed with their depiction of the NYC ASPCA--or a branch of it. All supported by private donations, and they had a top-notch surgery and everything. > I watched Animal Planet last night and saw two women get cuffed and > hauled off for putting 13 newborn puppies in a garbage can and it felt > good. Unfortunately only 2 of the dogs made it. I was really > impressed with their depiction of the NYC ASPCA--or a branch of it. > All supported by private donations, and they had a top-notch surgery > and everything. Ugh, I saw that episode. Also the poor dog with the skin missing around her neck. The puppies case was just bizarre -- they put the puppies in the garbage the night they were born, and when the animal cruelty officers came to talk to them about it, they said, "Well, at least we didn't kill the dog like some people would have." WTF? W-T-F? Three cheers, also, for the vet techs who took the puppies home every night to be sure they'd get their frequent feedings. They were concerned that the puppies would be overlooked in the busy hospital atmosphere. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ I ask why-- why would anyone do something like that. Why is it that cats seem-- no, are a target for abuse. Trying to understand the insane and abusive mind is beyond me. > > http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Trying to understand the insane and abusive mind is beyond me. Me too. Not that it makes things any better, but do remember that people are doing horrible things to humans just for fun too--esp. children since they are easier to overpower. I expect that is why cats rather than dogs. > > > http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > children since they are easier to overpower. I expect that is why > cats rather than dogs. I think there was a study done on this very subject (might have been a UK study). That is, why cats are targeted more than dogs for extreme cruelty and sexual violence. I'd google for it, but I don't really want to think about it any more. Signature-- ~kaeli~ Every calendar's days are numbered. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > > > > http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ > > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > sexual violence. I'd google for it, but I don't really want to think about it > any more. As I recall from another study done years ago, animal torture and murder is perpetrated overwhelmingly by males. Cats, due to their small size, visual elegance, grace and balance, and slinky sinewy movements, seem more than most other domesticated animals to embody what are considered "feminine" traits. The more petite dog breeds, due to their looks, are also victimized more than larger canines, for the same reason. Along with that, because they're small, they're easier to subdue. Abusers are not ones to be inclined to pick on somebody their own size. > As I recall from another study done years ago, animal torture and murder > is perpetrated overwhelmingly by males. Cats, due to their small size, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > with that, because they're small, they're easier to subdue. Abusers are > not ones to be inclined to pick on somebody their own size. This makes sense to me. This is one of those areas where I have to just have faith that there is some justice somewhere for these people--because otherwise I might wind up in prison for attempting to mete it out on my own. >> http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Trying to understand the insane and abusive mind is beyond me. The site is undergoing maintenance right now, but maybe it helps to realize that insane people aren't in their right mind, and abusive people typically were the result of horrific abuse early in life. Not all abused people become abusive, but I guess some portion of them become warped by the experience. Maybe, in addition to anger, we should be sad for these people. That being said, if I actually were able to see the site, I might have other words to say. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ Very, very,very sick - OMG, made me nauseated!!! Notice, he is only charged with *ONE* count felony (and a few misdemeanors)... which will probably be dropped to a misdemeanor. On top of all the abuse, in a case like this, he should be placed on a sexual predators list.... if he could do that to a cat??? I just sat here and cried for that poor cat and what he had to endure..................how terrible! My nature is to be non-violent . . . . ha, except when it comes to things like these, what I would love to do that creep! He is 39 years old!!! An apt punishment? What kinds of things do rats find irresistable? Strip this creep down, chain him to a concrete floor, pour the rat-yummies over his ...ugh......genital area, and loose the rats. They can chew everything off. No anaesthetic provided. I think some pain will do him good. Tonight I light some candles in memory of Clyde. Now I have to leave my computer because I am crying for him again. :( Mel >> http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > like this, he should be placed on a sexual predators list.... if he could > do that to a cat??? > http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ The website wouldn't come up for me, probably for the best. Whatever this guy did, it sounds awful judging by the responses. I hope he gets what he deserves. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net "Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG > > http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/4096/ > > The website wouldn't come up for me, probably for the best. > Whatever this guy did, it sounds awful judging by the responses. I hope he > gets what he deserves. Let's put it this way -- it made me cry. At work. And I almost threw up. Signature-- ~kaeli~ Every calendar's days are numbered. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > Let's put it this way -- it made me cry. At work. > And I almost threw up. Then I'm especially relieved the site wouldn't work for me. I already know humans are capable of awful cruelty, don't need a reminder. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net "Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG > > Let's put it this way -- it made me cry. At work. > > And I almost threw up. > > Then I'm especially relieved the site wouldn't work for me. I already know > humans are capable of awful cruelty, don't need a reminder. Just knowing it happens is enough to disturb me on a daily basis. I guess there are some folks who are numb to the degree that they need it all rubbed in their faces. > > Then I'm especially relieved the site wouldn't work for me. I already > know [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I guess there are some folks who are numb to the degree that they > need it all rubbed in their faces. Or, like you said to me in your other post, some people just might not believe it happens unless it is rubbed in their faces. I know what this guy did is just inconceivable to me. And the sentences the offenders get is often nothing short of pitifully inadequate. I often quote the pet-abuse site to people when the subject of light senteces to animal abusers comes up. They just don't believe what people are capable of. I suppose, in a way, that's a good thing. But mostly it just hides the truth. Signature-- ~kaeli~ The secret of the universe is @*&^^^ NO CARRIER http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > > > Then I'm especially relieved the site wouldn't work for me. I already > > know [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Or, like you said to me in your other post, some people just might not > believe it happens unless it is rubbed in their faces. So, what, they think the news stories are made up? Would these be the same kind of folks who deny the holocaust happened? > I know what this guy did is just inconceivable to me. And the sentences the > offenders get is often nothing short of pitifully inadequate. > I often quote the pet-abuse site to people when the subject of light senteces > to animal abusers comes up. They just don't believe what people are capable > of. I suppose, in a way, that's a good thing. But mostly it just hides the > truth. I wonder what is worse, numbness that requires majorly sick violence to break, or the kind of stupidity it would take to doubt that the plentiful news stories of animal cruelty we see in mainstream news are true unless the blood of the animals is rubbed in one's face? > > Or, like you said to me in your other post, some people just might not > > believe it happens unless it is rubbed in their faces. > > So, what, they think the news stories are made up? Would these be > the same kind of folks who deny the holocaust happened? I think they're more like my parents -- they think things are exaggerated. It took me showing my Mom pictures of declaw surgeries and botched operations to convince her that it really CAN be horrible and that cats DO get maimed for life from it. She didn't believe me about it being the removal of actual bone until I sent her that nodeclaw.com picture of the poor cat all bandaged up with the little pieces of his toes lying next to him. And I've even had SHELTER workers argue with me that a declaw removes bone! One actually really believed (and argued with me) that it was just the nail that was removed and it didn't hurt the cat a bit. People sometimes just don't believe things until they SEE them. I can be that way myself. I know I take EVERYTHING from fox news as so biased as to be useless. ;) Believe it or not, some people really do think the holocaust wasn't nearly as bad as some people say it was -- they even think the old footage is somehow faked! There are people who think the moon landing was faked! LOL Signature-- ~kaeli~ Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball! http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > > > Or, like you said to me in your other post, some people just might not > > > believe it happens unless it is rubbed in their faces. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to convince her that it really CAN be horrible and that cats DO get maimed > for life from it. I can see this. But I am resistant to intentional graphic depictions of carnage because I know that there is an appetite for it out there. For every person who posts a link to a site that describes or has photos of terrible cruelty who does so out of compassion, there is one who does so with the disgusting relish we see in rubberneckers at accidents--the latter being the main cause of the traffic jams that happen. And this appetite, though it is as old as the human species, is one of the most disgusting and deplorable things about us. (Think the Roman Colliseum and, even just 100 years ago in the US, the fact that public hangings were major carnival-like events, with people selling refreshments and bringing their children to watch.) > She didn't believe me about it being the removal of actual bone until I sent > her that nodeclaw.com picture of the poor cat all bandaged up with the little [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > bad as some people say it was -- they even think the old footage is somehow > faked! There are people who think the moon landing was faked! LOL I know these people exist, my friend. Stupid people should be neutered. It would at least be a start. > But I am resistant to intentional graphic depictions of > carnage [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > disgusting relish we see in rubberneckers at accidents--the latter being > the main cause of the traffic jams that happen. I see your point here, too. It *is* true, though it tends to make me a bit ashamed to be human to admit it. Signature-- ~kaeli~ Once you've seen one shopping center, you've seen a mall. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace
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