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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / March 2005Bandit is Better - I'm Wounded!
Bandit got her stitches out, she's getting better *very* quickly. She is certainly feeling like her old feisty self, and I have the wounds to prove it! I was holding her when the last stitch was taken out and she jerked around, bit me down to the bone *IN* the first joint of my middle finger of my right hand, and hooked a claw into my left arm. I stood there and let her grind away because if I had let her go either the vet or the vet tech would have been in the line of fire. Here are pictures of both our wounds!! http://www.possibleplaces.com/CatNipped/Bandit_Better/ -- Hugs, CatNipped http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > Bandit got her stitches out, she's getting better *very* quickly. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://www.possibleplaces.com/CatNipped/Bandit_Better/ Lori, have you had a doctor look at your deep bite? That could be serious. I am so happy Bandit is healing nicely, But sorry you had to get hurt! Thanks for keeping us posted. > > Bandit got her stitches out, she's getting better *very* quickly. > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > could be serious. I am so happy Bandit is healing nicely, > But sorry you had to get hurt! Thanks for keeping us posted. Well, I was thinking about going to the ER, but DH pitched a bitch about the co-pay, so I'm compromising and called my on-call doctor (it's after hours here). She called in an antibiotic for me. Hugs, CatNipped > > > Bandit got her stitches out, she's getting better *very* quickly. > > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > co-pay, so I'm compromising and called my on-call doctor (it's after hours > here). She called in an antibiotic for me. Hospitals and doctors are required by law to report cat bites they treat to the dept of health - at least that's how it is my in my state. Even if the cat's rabies vaccinations are up to date the cat still may be quaranteened for at least 10 days - even though there has *never* been a case of human rabies acquired from a cat in this state. If your doctor reports the bite, you might be getting a call from the dept of health and/or AC. Anytime I'm bitten and need stitches or medical care, I always say I was bitten by an unkown stray cat that ran away. I'm not saying you should do the same to protect Bandit, I'm just saying what I do.... Good luck. Phil >Hospitals and doctors are required by law to report cat bites they treat to >the dept of health - at least that's how it is my in my state. Even if the >cat's rabies vaccinations are up to date the cat still may be quaranteened >for at least 10 days - even though there has *never* been a case of human >rabies acquired from a cat in this state. How do they handle bites at the vet? I would assume that vets and assistants get bitten all the time by unhappy animals getting treatment they would rather not have. In those cases, it is pretty obvious that they were upset, feeling provoked, and not normally agressive or dangerous. Since this happened at the vet's office, in the middle of an unhappy procedure, I would think it would be the same as if the cat had bitten the vet. Do vets simply treat each other to keep from reporting it? I have never heard of a pet being quaranteen because they bit their vet.  Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com I have > never heard of a pet being quaranteen because they bit their vet. I have. > >Hospitals and doctors are required by law to report cat bites they treat to > >the dept of health - at least that's how it is my in my state. Even if the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > obvious that they were upset, feeling provoked, and not normally > agressive or dangerous. I asked this question of one of my vats years ago when there were a considerable amount of rabies cases in this area: the vets are innoculated for rabies as a preventative measure. Cathy > Since this happened at the vet's office, in the middle of an unhappy > procedure, I would think it would be the same as if the cat had bitten [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Equine and Pet Photography > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >> How do they handle bites at the vet? I would assume that vets and >> assistants get bitten all the time by unhappy animals getting [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >considerable amount of rabies cases in this area: the vets are innoculated >for rabies as a preventative measure. So do they actually report it and quarantine the cat, or just go on about their business, knowing the cat was upset and not a real threat. I've just never thought about this before. I mean, my own cats have bitten me several times over the years, drawing blood a few times. Usually playing at the time, or getting a bath or medical treatment. I just never thought it was a serious issue since they were my pets biting me, and I knew why in each case. Even my dogs have bitten me. One was blind, and chomped down on my foot. Her chew toy was next to my foot - an honest mistake. The other dog bit me during a grooming session. I found a knot of hair, and she reacted faster than I did. Since then, she has been very nippy when being brushed, and I put a muzzle on her. I do not let other people brush her. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com > Hospitals and doctors are required by law to report cat bites they treat > to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Phil I don't know what's required by law, but all the doctor asked was, was Bandit up to date on her shots, I said yes, and it was dropped. Bandit has been an inside cat for 15 years and had her last rabies shot less than a year ago. Anyone trying to come into my house to take away my baby would have to do so over my cold, dead body (we are allowed to pack heat here in Texas - so it might be *their* cold dead body!!!) ;> It might have been different if I had gone to an emergency room, but I don't think my doctor will report this. *I* won't report him for not reporting it!!! Hugs, CatNipped >> Hospitals and doctors are required by law to report cat bites they >> treat to [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > allowed to pack heat here in Texas - so it might be *their* cold dead > body!!!) ;> LOL! Same here, DH & I are both licensed to carry (for personal protection, had to go through all sorts of background checks & get fingerprinted by law enforcement), although we *rarely* carry them, except to a range for target practice. > It might have been different if I had gone to an emergency room, but > I don't think my doctor will report this. *I* won't report him for > not reporting it!!! *If* the TED did report the bite, and you *do* get a call about it, just tell the truth - it was your very own cat, and that she bit while she was getting stitches out, and if they ask for proof of vaccination, just show it to them. If there is proof of vaccination (I have my records for all cats going back for over a year), I doubt that they will make a fuss over it. Just make sure that you get that bite taken care of ASAP, and tell DH that $200 co-pay *NOW* is better than the loss of a finger (or worse, the whole hand) at a later date! --? The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep > *If* the TED did report the bite, and you *do* get a call about it, just > tell the truth - I'd find out what the laws are in the State before risking quarantine. I'm usually a law-abiding citizen -- except when it comes to cats. Their welfare takes precedence. But that's me. > I'd find out what the laws are in the State before risking quarantine. > > I'm usually a law-abiding citizen -- except when it comes to cats. Their > welfare takes precedence. But that's me. The way it works in NH is if a cat bites someone, it has to be held for observation for 10 days. In the shelter, this means we stick a note on the cage and cannot adopt out the cat until the end of the bite hold. We aren't supposed to handle the cat excessively or let it out with other cats, not really a big deal. We self-enforce this policy. When a volunteer is bit and has to go to the doctor, I really don't know if the doctor reports it or not. No one ever comes to the shelter to check and see that we are enforcing the bite hold. I would imagine if it were an owned cat, you just keep the cat in your house for 10 days. Our bigger problem is when cats come in with a bite wound of unknown origin. Then we have to hold the cat for 6 months before it can be adopted out. I think it's ridiculous, but it's the law. It can be tough finding 6 month foster homes that can keep the cat separated for that long. We just had a cat come in a few weeks ago with a bite wound. First I sent out an email to all volunteers asking for a foster home. No response. Then I sent out an email speaking as the cat asking if he can stay with someone for 6 months, got four responses :) Poor guy has been out in the ACO kennel waiting for a foster home. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net "Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG > Our bigger problem is when cats come in with a bite wound of unknown origin. > Then we have to hold the cat for 6 months before it can be adopted out. I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > got four responses :) Poor guy has been out in the ACO kennel waiting for a > foster home. Slightly OT, but while I was at home suffering through bronchitis, I caught a few episodes of emergency vets on animal planet. In one case, the owner, who had been through all sorts of medical conditions herself, had a young retriever with severe hip dysplasia. The dog was in horrible pain and couldn't run, but she couldn't afford several thousand for surgery. She wrote a letter to the vet's office, speaking as the dog, explaining why it would be so important for both the dog and the human to get this surgery. Apparently, the vet has a discretionary fund through donations and was able to do this surgery pro bono. The fact that they can actually change the structure of the hips is amazing to me. The dog can now run and sit and play without extreme pain. Very cool. The dog breeds I adore all seem prone to hip dysplasia. I hope that getting pound dogs will help with that (they're typically mixed breed) ... why do we breed so many animals that are the worse for our interference? I met a beautiful, friendly greyhound the other day at my chiro. She's a rescue dog from the races. Apparently greyhounds can't sit at all because of their skeletal structure. Then I skritched her behind the ears and her owner told me she adores that because she can't scratch behind her own ears. What on earth is wrong with people, breeding dogs that can't even scratch their own ears???? *sigh* Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Slightly OT, but while I was at home suffering through bronchitis, I > caught a [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > extreme > pain. Very cool. What a great vet!! And what a creative owner to think to do that :) > The dog breeds I adore all seem prone to hip dysplasia. I hope that > getting [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > own > ears???? Oh because, we're breeding for a shorter snout or floppier ears or whatever, who cares what it ends up doing to the dog's bones!!! Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net "Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG > > Slightly OT, but while I was at home suffering through bronchitis, I > > caught a [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > What a great vet!! And what a creative owner to think to do that :) Man, the NYC ASPCA has all KINDS of money! They are always the ones they show on Animal Planet. There might be more than one branch, but whatever branch they show has fully funded surgical facilities, and when an animal comes in they just take care of it no matter how extensive the injuries, or so it seems. It makes for feel-good tv watching. >> > Slightly OT, but while I was at home suffering through bronchitis, >> > I caught a few episodes of emergency vets on animal planet. In one [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > extensive the injuries, or so it seems. It makes for feel-good tv > watching. Actually, this was in Denver, and the ASPCA had nothing to do with it. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > >> > Slightly OT, but while I was at home suffering through bronchitis, > >> > I caught a few episodes of emergency vets on animal planet. In one [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Actually, this was in Denver, and the ASPCA had nothing to do with it. I haven't seen "Emergency Vets" in ages, but was this one at Alameda East? I liked those epidsodes. Cathy >> Actually, this was in Denver, and the ASPCA had nothing to do with it. > > I haven't seen "Emergency Vets" in ages, but was this one at Alameda East? > I liked those epidsodes. Yes, I believe so. I'm very happy to know that there are such excellent vet facilities relatively near me. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > >> > Slightly OT, but while I was at home suffering through bronchitis, > >> > I caught a few episodes of emergency vets on animal planet. In one [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Actually, this was in Denver, and the ASPCA had nothing to do with it. Well, good for Denver. Every time I see these kinds of stories on AP the NYC ASPCA is involved. > > >> > Slightly OT, but while I was at home suffering through bronchitis, > > >> > I caught a few episodes of emergency vets on animal planet. In one [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Well, good for Denver. Every time I see these kinds of stories on AP > the NYC ASPCA is involved. My bet is that you're thinking of a different program/series, "Animal Precinct", maybe. The series which takes place in NYC & they follow-up calls about animal neglect &/or abuse, tracking down the owners, & then rescuing the animals - bringing them back to the ASPCA for veterinary treatment &/or putting them up for adoption, when necessary? Cathy > > > >> > Slightly OT, but while I was at home suffering through bronchitis, > > > >> > I caught a few episodes of emergency vets on animal planet. In one [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > rescuing the animals - bringing them back to the ASPCA for veterinary > treatment &/or putting them up for adoption, when necessary? You know, I don't watch a lot of TV, but I am sure the channel was Animal Planet. If I happen upon it I'll try to note the name. You could be right, though, because I have caught it maybe four times and each time they were picking up animals in Brooklyn and taking wonderful care of them then arresting people who neglected or hurt them. >> My bet is that you're thinking of a different program/series, "Animal >> Precinct", maybe. The series which takes place in NYC & they follow-up [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >time they were picking up animals in Brooklyn and taking wonderful >care of them then arresting people who neglected or hurt them. Animal Precinct is one of 3 that I know of that have the same basic style of showing officers investigating animal abuse. Another one is in Detroit - I think that is Animal Cops. And I can't remember the name of the other show. All 3 programs are shown on the Animal Planet channel. The vet program is also, but I can't remember the name of that one. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >>> My bet is that you're thinking of a different program/series, "Animal >>> Precinct", maybe. The series which takes place in NYC & they follow-up [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > The vet program is also, but I can't remember the name of that one. Yep, but it's up to four now. NY, Detroit, Houston, and Miami. I think they're "Animal Precinct (in NY)", "Animal Cops (in Detroit)", "Animal Cops (in Houston)", and "Animal Cops (in Miami)". Hugs, CatNipped > -- > Meghan & the Zoo Crew > Equine and Pet Photography > http://www.zoocrewphoto.com >>>> My bet is that you're thinking of a different program/series, >>>> "Animal Precinct", maybe. The series which takes place in NYC & [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > think they're "Animal Precinct (in NY)", "Animal Cops (in Detroit)", > "Animal Cops (in Houston)", and "Animal Cops (in Miami)". There's a new one now, too - based in San Francisco. Not sure if it's called Animal Cops or what. --? The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep >> All 3 programs are shown on the Animal Planet channel. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > they're "Animal Precinct (in NY)", "Animal Cops (in Detroit)", "Animal Cops > (in Houston)", and "Animal Cops (in Miami)". And on top of all of those is "Emergency Vets." The difference seems to be that the cameras in EV stay pretty much inside the vet clinic, so the stories are generally not about abuse, but they do film the surgeries, so it's not for those who are squeamish about, say, seeing a drill go through a bone. The cops and precinct shows are about animal welfare investigators; a slightly different focus. On the investigation shows, I've seen horrific things, but never seen close-ups of the surgery. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >>>All 3 programs are shown on the Animal Planet channel. >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > different focus. On the investigation shows, I've seen horrific things, but > never seen close-ups of the surgery. I absolutely love all these shows you guys are talking about. I am grateful for Animal Planet. Is the one channel I can watch without being afraid of terrorist attacks or hearing about Terri Schiavo or any other number of depressing stuff. Not to say that sometimes the shows arent depressing...but at least with say Emergency Vets...the stuff is just part of life. Am I making any sense? I heart animal planet! Another great show..."thats my baby" > I absolutely love all these shows you guys are talking about. I am > grateful for Animal Planet. Is the one channel I can watch without being [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Not to say that sometimes the shows arent depressing...but at least with > say Emergency Vets...the stuff is just part of life. I'm too weak to watch them, especially now when *everything* makes me cry. > Am I making any sense? > > I heart animal planet! > > Another great show..."thats my baby" I watched a couple eps of "That's my baby" because I wanted to see cute and fuzzy baby animals. One ep really disappointed me. They had a family with an intact male and female regular old moggie cats and they let them breed to show the kids "the miracle of life". Blech!!! Then they gave the kittens away at the end, not spayed or neutered. How irresponsible! They could have gotten the same cute and fuzzy factor by following a family fostering a pregnant stray from a rescue and had the kittens vetted and s/n before adopting out to screened homes :-( Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net "Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG > >>>All 3 programs are shown on the Animal Planet channel. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > afraid of terrorist attacks or hearing about Terri Schiavo or any other > number of depressing stuff. I will have to check out TVguide.com and see what shows are on so I can watch more. I just sit down and flip around when I am too tired to do anything else. > Not to say that sometimes the shows arent depressing...but at least with > say Emergency Vets...the stuff is just part of life. Yes--however, one show I saw last week about a woman who had put 13 newborn puppies in a trash can really tore me up as even though she was arrested only 2 made it. > Am I making any sense? You bet. > I heart animal planet! > > Another great show..."thats my baby" What is that about? Babies, maybe? ;) I like most of the programs, but there is one that I think is really bad, and I wish they would take it off the air. They make adopting a dog into a contest. The choose a dog from a shelter, and 3 potential homes (might be a family, some roomates, a single person, whatever). Then, they have the dog spend a day at each of the 3 homes. They have to do a couple training tasks with the dog during the day and they keep the dog overnight. Then the host picks up the dog and takes it to the next home to do it again. So, we have 3 potential owners who have never seen the dog and have no reason to have chosen this particular dog. And then they have to try their hardest to bond with the dog in a matter of hours so that they look good on tv. And then you potentially have 3 groups of people wanting the dog, and only one will get it. Much better to have all 3 of them go down to the shelter and simply pick the dog that fits with their family. Also, I don't think it is very fair to the dog to send it to 3 different houses in 3 days. That seems pretty stressful. So, the whole concept bothers me. I hope the program has horrible ratings and lots of complaints. Signature-- Meghan & the Zoo Crew Equine and Pet Photography http://www.zoocrewphoto.com > > > > >> > Slightly OT, but while I was at home suffering through > bronchitis, [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > You know, I don't watch a lot of TV, but I am sure the channel was > Animal Planet. "Animal Precinct" is (or was - I haven't watched it in quite a while) on Animal Planet! Cathy If I happen upon it I'll try to note the name. You could > be right, though, because I have caught it maybe four times and each > time they were picking up animals in Brooklyn and taking wonderful > care of them then arresting people who neglected or hurt them. > "Magic Mood Jeep©" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I'm usually a law-abiding citizen -- except when it comes to cats. Their > welfare takes precedence. But that's me. This is another piece of advice I'd better mentally file away. I sure can't risk Mingy being quarantined. He would probably die. Literally. SignatureJean B. > LOL! Same here, DH & I are both licensed to carry (for personal > protection, had to go through all sorts of background checks & get [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > cats going back for over a year), I doubt that they will make a fuss over > it. Yep, I have Bandit's vet records going back 15 years (I have a bit of an OCD! ;>). > Just make sure that you get that bite taken care of ASAP, and tell DH that > $200 co-pay *NOW* is better than the loss of a finger (or worse, the whole > hand) at a later date! Well, they called out the antibiotics last night and I have an appointment for a few hours from now in the doctor's office, so I think it will be OK. Hugs, CatNipped > --? > The ONE and ONLY > lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy > former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? email me at > nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep > > Hospitals and doctors are required by law to report cat bites they treat > > to [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I don't know what's required by law, but all the doctor asked was, was > Bandit up to date on her shots, I said yes, and it was dropped. Hopefully, that's the end of it. I just wanted to give you a heads up. Phil >> > Hospitals and doctors are required by law to report cat bites they >> > treat [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Phil No problem - thanks. I did run across this problem when I got scratched really badly by a feral cat I was trying to TNR about 11 years ago (the last time I had a tetanus shot! ;>), and I had to go to the emergency room. Animal control called, and even though I knew exactly where the cat was, like you, I told them he had run away and I hadn't seen him again (I think at the time he was on my patio chowing down). Hugs, CatNipped > No problem - thanks. I did run across this problem when I got scratched > really badly by a feral cat I was trying to TNR about 11 years ago (the last > time I had a tetanus shot! ;>), and I had to go to the emergency room. > Animal control called, and even though I knew exactly where the cat was, > like you, I told them he had run away and I hadn't seen him again (I think > at the time he was on my patio chowing down). That reminds me, my doc wants me to get a tetanus shot, esp. with all the activities I do. I think tetanus shots last 10 years, so sounds like you're due =P Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > > > > Bandit got her stitches out, she's getting better *very* quickly. > > > > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > saying you should do the same to protect Bandit, I'm just saying what I > do.... If Bandit is an indoor cat & was up-to-date on her rabies shots... I don't get the problem (except for possible infection of the bite) & the need for a bite report. Not like there's an unknown or possibly dubious history involved. Cathy > Good luck. > > Phil > Well, I was thinking about going to the ER, but DH pitched a bitch about the > co-pay, so I'm compromising and called my on-call doctor (it's after hours [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > CatNipped If it gets infected, soak it 3 times a day in HOT salt water - add a cup of salt to a gallon of hot water (as hot as you can stand). It removes the pain and will draw the infection out. Works like a charm every time. Glad Bandit is doing better! The wound on her back looks great! HTH, -L. Suddenly, without warning, -L. exclaimed (3/25/2005 6:31 AM): >>Well, I was thinking about going to the ER, but DH pitched a bitch > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > HTH, > -L. Also, I use Tea Tree Oil as an antibiotic - find it works *much* better than neosporin or the other triple-antibiotics. Wounds on my hands always seem to get at least mildly infected (red) and the TTO does a much better job clearing the redness up, or even stopping it altogether. >> Well, I was thinking about going to the ER, but DH pitched a bitch > about the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Glad Bandit is doing better! The wound on her back looks great! You sound like you BTDT! ;> I told DH this was a better place to find out how to treat cat bites than a medical newsgroup! The doctor called out some Augmentin (Clavamox - ironic, that's what I had to shove down Bandit's throat for over a week, so I guess she's getting her revenge in spades!!!) ;> Hugs, CatNipped > HTH, > -L. > Bandit got her stitches out, she's getting better *very* quickly. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://www.possibleplaces.com/CatNipped/Bandit_Better/ Holy mackerel! Yep, Bandit's feeling just fine.... Cathy > -- > Hugs, > > CatNipped > http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ Bandit looks much much better. You hand, on the other hand (no pun intended) looks quite sore. I hope you at least get it looked at! Signature.oO rach Oo. > Bandit got her stitches out, she's getting better *very* quickly. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > CatNipped > http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > Bandit got her stitches out, she's getting better *very* quickly. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > CatNipped > http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ Bandit *does* look better! Lori. be sure to follow through and get some antibiotics. I never had a cat bite that didn't swell and infect horribly. Good luck. > Bandit got her stitches out, she's getting better *very* quickly. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > CatNipped > http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ I'm surprised, given the feisty nature of your cat, that the clinic did not offer you some protective gear to protect your hands and arms from this. They do have them, or did you decline? Not feasible for the person removing the stitches to wear them, but you could have-- and avoided all this. I've probadly said this before-- if it was me I'd never go back there. There is no excuse for any animal being in worse shape after a visit to the clinic due to negligence on the part of staff. Taking care of animals is their area of expertise, they are supposed to be professionals. >> Bandit got her stitches out, she's getting better *very* quickly. >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Taking care of animals is their area of expertise, they are supposed to be > professionals. They offered to restrain her, but she's actually quieter when I hold her and I have to use less force (with less chance of her being hurt) then someone else. Because of that, I insisted that I be the one to hold her. As I said (somewhere - maybe another group), I could have avoided being bitten and scratched if, as I normally do, as soon as I heard her trademark "cougar scream" and felt her jerk I had just backed off. But instead I held onto her so she couldn't get to the vet or the vet tech, and so the vet could remove the last stitch. Bandit has left numerous scars on my body - and she *loves* me. Being bitten or scratched by her is nothing new. Someone else would have gotten hurt much worse. This is the cat who, years ago, sent a vet tech to the ER for over 50 stitches when she laid open his arm open from elbow to wrist with her back claws. That vet wouldn't let me hold her and the vet tech had on thick leather gloves and *thought* that would protect him. After that happened I demonstrated "bugga belly" to the vet (I flip her over onto her back, stick my face in her belly, shake my head back and forth, and murmur, "bugga, bugga, bugga" into her belly). He always let me hold her after that. I've been working with this vet *very* closely since this happened (she has called me twice a day, every day since it happened - every night from her home). This wasn't even the vet who did the original dental, yet she still felt horrible about all this (and not just because it might hurt her business - she hasn't come across like that). I don't know, this is just a gut feeling I get from her from all the interaction that I guess I'm not conveying well through these posts. I've had animals all 53 years of my life - and I'm an ailurophile, so all my cats have always been very well cared for, which means I've had many vets over the years. I'm intelligent enough to know when a vet is competent or incompetent. Even the competent ones (or in this case the vet tech they employ) make mistakes. If all doctors and all vets who ever made a mistake were to go out of business there wouldn't be anyone left practicing. Hugs, CatNipped > employ) make mistakes. If all doctors and all vets who ever made a mistake > were to go out of business there wouldn't be anyone left practicing. That might actually be a good thing. :) Leaving room for more competent people to take over. >> employ) make mistakes. If all doctors and all vets who ever made a mistake >> were to go out of business there wouldn't be anyone left practicing. > > That might actually be a good thing. :) > > Leaving room for more competent people to take over. Ah, if only I were so perfect, like you, that I'd never made a mistake. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >>>employ) make mistakes. If all doctors and all vets who ever made a mistake >>>were to go out of business there wouldn't be anyone left practicing. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Ah, if only I were so perfect, like you, that I'd never made a mistake. Bite me. >>>>employ) make mistakes. If all doctors and all vets who ever made a >>>>mistake [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Bite me. No, no, you really don't want to be bitten - I just was and it *hurts*!!! ;> Hugs, CatNipped >>>>>employ) make mistakes. If all doctors and all vets who ever made a >>>>>mistake [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > CatNipped Well, if I get bitten... I won't be perfect anymore. Not that I was in the first place. ;) Besides, I suspect perfection is over-rated and *way* to much work to achieve and maintain. > >>>>>employ) make mistakes. If all doctors and all vets who ever made a > >>>>>mistake [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Besides, I suspect perfection is over-rated and *way* to much work to > achieve and maintain. No it's not. It's easy. 8) ba-BOOM! > I guess I'm not > conveying well through these posts. I get it. Signaturehttp://www.slywy.com/ > I've been working with this vet *very* closely since this happened (she has > called me twice a day, every day since it happened - every night from her [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > gut feeling I get from her from all the interaction that I guess I'm not > conveying well through these posts. AFAIC, you've conveyed it just fine. > I've had animals all 53 years of my life Ah, talking about coincidences - there it is... (re: my 'off on a tangent other post); yep, you're younger than I am - but not by a lot! ;-) Cathy - and I'm an ailurophile, so all my > cats have always been very well cared for, which means I've had many vets > over the years. I'm intelligent enough to know when a vet is competent or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > CatNipped > > Bandit got her stitches out, she's getting better *very* quickly. > > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > There is no excuse for any animal being in worse shape after a visit to > the clinic due to negligence on the part of staff. I'm on CatNipped's side of the situation in thios case - after reading all of her posts. Cathy > Taking care of animals is their area of expertise, they are supposed to > be professionals. >>>Bandit got her stitches out, she's getting better *very* quickly. >>> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > I'm on CatNipped's side of the situation in thios case - after reading all > of her posts. I wasn't aware we were now taking sides. :) There remains one undisputable fact here, the cat was injured by the staff at the vet clinic. Personally, I would not want to risk a repeat performance of that no matter what the rhetoric is coming from the staff. It is human nature to react in such a manner to ensure survival after it has been shown one is guilty of wrongful acts. > Cathy > >>Taking care of animals is their area of expertise, they are supposed to >>be professionals. > >>>Bandit got her stitches out, she's getting better *very* quickly. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > I wasn't aware we were now taking sides. :) Okay, let me rephrase that, then: after reading all of CatNipped's posts about this incident(s), I agree with her 'take' on it. You had said, "If it was me I'd never go back there...", & therefore you were taking a stance (IOW, a "side" opposed to what CatNipped's stance has panned out to be); I was simply putting in my 2? opinon, also. Cathy > There remains one undisputable fact here, the cat was injured by the > staff at the vet clinic. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >>Taking care of animals is their area of expertise, they are supposed to > >>be professionals. |
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