I don't know if you remember me but about 3 years ago I had my Nicky tube fed and
consequentely made a tube feeding website.
Anyway.
I had to put Nicky to sleep this morning.
The vet said that she detected a mass on his spinal column and another mass, a little one
in his stomach. But after reading the replies to my post in a couple of newsgroups, I had
a feeling that the culprit would be diabetes. Because Nicky didn't seem to have any
sensation in his hind legs. So she suggested a battery of tests, but I had a bad feeling
about this all the while crying my eyes out. So I asked her opinion. She said it's
probably diabetes and even with insulin there's a good chance that he wouldn't regain full
function of his legs. She saind that what she could do is take a sugar test right away
and we'd know for sure. If the result came back with a sugar level up to 18, it would be
manageable with daily insulin shots and the most I could look forward to is 2-3 years of
life expectancy. Anyways, she came back with the result: 25. The decision was made to
put my 6 year old cat to sleep.
Thanks for all your support, you've been all great!
I will miss Nicky so very much.
Bob
Karen - 17 Mar 2005 19:07 GMT
I'm really sorry to hear about Nicky, but I don't understand why you didn't
take him in RIGHT away and I have never heard of a vet recommending
euthanasia for diatbetes? I am not going to flame you because I understand
about fear and sickness and what ifs, but I sure wish you had gotten a
second opinion and gotten him in right away.
> I don't know if you remember me but about 3 years ago I had my Nicky tube fed and
> consequentely made a tube feeding website.
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> Bob
mlbriggs - 17 Mar 2005 19:56 GMT
> I'm really sorry to hear about Nicky, but I don't understand why you didn't
> take him in RIGHT away and I have never heard of a vet recommending
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>> Bob
Wouldn't the mass on his spine and in his stomach indicate something other
than diabetes? And with the diabetes a cure might be impossible.
Sincere sympathy. MLB
Karen - 17 Mar 2005 20:47 GMT
> > I'm really sorry to hear about Nicky, but I don't understand why you didn't
> > take him in RIGHT away and I have never heard of a vet recommending
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> than diabetes? And with the diabetes a cure might be impossible.
> Sincere sympathy. MLB
Yeah, I don't know. It's just so hard. I suppose some people would have
thought I could have tried harder with Grant but it sure seemed pretty
hopeless.
Becca - 17 Mar 2005 21:22 GMT
So sorry about the loss of Nicky.
In June I lost Annie, she was almost 18 years old. I miss Annie, but I
love the 3 cats I have adopted, they are special.
Becca
mlbriggs - 18 Mar 2005 06:53 GMT
>> > I'm really sorry to hear about Nicky, but I don't understand why you
> didn't
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> thought I could have tried harder with Grant but it sure seemed pretty
> hopeless.
You tried very hard but we must realize we cannot save them all. We also
know that suffering so badly can be worse than death.Do you remember the
poem "Sometimes"? MLB
Karen - 18 Mar 2005 14:11 GMT
>>>> I'm really sorry to hear about Nicky, but I don't understand why you
>> didn't
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> know that suffering so badly can be worse than death.Do you remember the
> poem "Sometimes"? MLB
I agree.
mlbriggs - 17 Mar 2005 19:55 GMT
> I don't know if you remember me but about 3 years ago I had my Nicky tube fed and
> consequentely made a tube feeding website.
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> Bob
"Rise up slowly, Angel. It's hard to let you go..."
Sincere sympathy. MLB
mariebola@nc.grrowl.com - 17 Mar 2005 21:50 GMT
> I don't know if you remember me but about 3 years ago I had my Nicky tube fed and
> consequentely made a tube feeding website.
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> sensation in his hind legs. So she suggested a battery of tests, but I had a bad feeling
> about this all the while crying my eyes out. So I asked her opinion.
She said it's
> probably diabetes and even with insulin there's a good chance that he wouldn't regain full
> function of his legs.
> I will miss Nicky so very much.
>
> Bob
Were the masses a possible symptom of diabetes or did the vet suspect
another medical issue along with the loss of sensation? In any event,
my condolences to you on the loss of Nicky. I am so sorry.
M~
Cheryl - 18 Mar 2005 01:11 GMT
> I don't know if you remember me but about 3 years ago I had my
> Nicky tube fed and consequentely made a tube feeding website.
>
> Anyway.
>
> I had to put Nicky to sleep this morning.
Robert, my sincere condolences. You and your emails and website were
instrumental in getting through Shadow's feeding tube period. I'm so
sad to hear about Nicky. :(

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.oO rach Oo. - 18 Mar 2005 03:31 GMT
I am so sorry for your loss.
Big Purrs

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>I don't know if you remember me but about 3 years ago I had my Nicky tube
>fed and
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> Bob
Cathy Friedmann - 18 Mar 2005 03:47 GMT
> I don't know if you remember me but about 3 years ago I had my Nicky tube fed and
> consequentely made a tube feeding website.
Yes, I do remember the site about tube-feeding Nicky.
> Anyway.
>
> I had to put Nicky to sleep this morning.
I'm very sorry.
Cathy
> The vet said that she detected a mass on his spinal column and another mass, a little one
> in his stomach. But after reading the replies to my post in a couple of newsgroups, I had
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> Bob
RD - 18 Mar 2005 05:52 GMT
First and foremost I am so grateful to all of you for helping me and Nicky with the tube
feeding adventure a couple of years ago. And especially now, with his passing away, thank
you so much for your unconditional love. I will never forget this.
Maybe this will give a bit more insight as to what happened today. Nicky was always scared
of the sound of passing trucks and especially during winter, because of the grates that
clean the streets and sidewalks. As soon as he heard their sounds he ran like a bullet
under my bed, now there's very little space under my bed so he had to squeeze himself
underneath.
And my mistake, I noticed his irregular walking one week ago not two, that's my error -
sorry about that. Now I thought that maybe he pulled a muscle or soemthing similar to
that nature, that's why I waited because I was sure that that was the reason.
As far as the diabetes goes, the vet did mention of course that Nicky's diabetes could be
treatable. But, with a sugar index of 25!!!! Plus the fact that he already lost his
sensibility under his hind legs. What I am concern with above all else is the quality of
life. Having him going through tests after tests, insulin injection every day, not only
that there's the secondary effects, the mass on his spinal column. I love Nicky with all
of my heart and I just could not see him going through all that.
So there you have it.
My appartment is so empty.
I am planning to adopt two kittens, I don't know when. I want to take my time in choosing
the right pair, But like I mentionned earlier, my appartment is very empty and I am not
sure I'll have the fortitude to wait.
Again, a million thanks to all of you!!!!!!!!!
Bob
>I don't know if you remember me but about 3 years ago I had my Nicky tube fed and
>consequentely made a tube feeding website.
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>Bob
kitkat - 18 Mar 2005 06:12 GMT
> What I am concern with above all else is the quality of
> life. Having him going through tests after tests, insulin injection every day, not only
> that there's the secondary effects, the mass on his spinal column. I love Nicky with all
> of my heart and I just could not see him going through all that.
In my opinion, this is all that matters. *You* know your cat better than
anyone else. *You* know what would make him miserable, thus reducing his
quality of life significantly. As sad as it is, you did what you felt is
the *right thing to do* in the situation. I think in some ways it is
hard to share these kinds of feelings and decisions with an internet
newsgroup because everyone is willing to go to different extremes (right
or wrong) to "save" their beloved companion.
Jasper, Luna and I all send hugs and purrs and head butts your way.
Sorry about Nicky...but he loves you for doing what was right for him.
peace,
Pam
Karen - 18 Mar 2005 14:10 GMT
> First and foremost I am so grateful to all of you for helping me and Nicky
> with the tube
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> Bob
Well, you are in for an adventure! I understand about quality of life, as
well as the emptiness. I still have two cats, but still Grant's being gone
seems to have left a BIG hole in our lives. I remember thinking, as bad as I
felt, if I had no cats, I could not have stood it if I didn't have Sugar and
Pearl to come home to. Nicky will find you just the right pair I am sure.
Candace - 20 Mar 2005 00:28 GMT
RD wrote:
<<I don't know if you remember me but about 3 years ago I had my Nicky
tube fed and
consequentely made a tube feeding website.
Anyway.
I had to put Nicky to sleep this morning. >>
I remember you and Nicky very well and I'm very sorry. The poor little
guy seemed to have a lot of health problems for one so young. Nicky
knew you loved him very much. I'm very sorry.
Candace