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CatNipped - 13 Mar 2005 15:28 GMT
You all heard what happened with Bandit getting burned at the vet - well,
the problem was even worse.

This morning when I was petting her I noticed matted hair on her back by her
tail.  I got out the wire brush to get the mat out and her hair came out in
a huge clump.  A patch of skin about 1/2 inch wide and 2 inches long was
laid bare and I could see she had been burned there also!!!!  It didn't look
*nearly* as bad as the one on her belly - it was just where her skin had
peeled (like when you get a bad sunburn) and the underlayer was raw like a
bad scrape.  It's not infected, probably because of the Clavamox she's been
taking since Monday night, but *OHMYGAWD*!!!

I put a heavy layer of Silvadine on it, and I think it should be OK without
having to take her to the ER.

Any further advice for my poor baby would be greatly appreciated!

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Joe Canuck - 13 Mar 2005 15:38 GMT
> You all heard what happened with Bandit getting burned at the vet - well,
> the problem was even worse.
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> CatNipped
> http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/

Seek legal advice regarding malpractice suit against this vet clinic.

Keep all paperwork, document *everything*. Photos with dates are great.
I.P.Freely - 13 Mar 2005 16:10 GMT
> > You all heard what happened with Bandit getting burned at the vet - well,
> > the problem was even worse.
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>
> Keep all paperwork, document *everything*. Photos with dates are great.

Ah I see you compensation culture parasites are infecting this newsgroup now
then?

Ever wonder why insurance policies and prices of services/goods are going
through the roof? - Mainly because instects like you sue at every
opportunity so companies have to build the cost of your action into the
prices they charge and make everyone pay for your greed.
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Joe Canuck - 13 Mar 2005 16:30 GMT
>>>You all heard what happened with Bandit getting burned at the vet -
>
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> Ah I see you compensation culture parasites are infecting this newsgroup now
> then?

Not that I agree with your characterization based on one post... however
I have been here all along.

Where have you been?  ;)

> Ever wonder why insurance policies and prices of services/goods are going
> through the roof? - Mainly because instects like you sue at every
> opportunity so companies have to build the cost of your action into the
> prices they charge and make everyone pay for your greed.

Odd, I've *never* sued although I have seriously considering doing so
only in one situation.

Greed has nothing to do with it. Putting shysters out of business and
removing shoddy products from the marketplace is the point.
equalizer - 13 Mar 2005 16:42 GMT
>>>>You all heard what happened with Bandit getting burned at the vet -
>>
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>Greed has nothing to do with it. Putting shysters out of business and
>removing shoddy products from the marketplace is the point.

And "outing" Steve Crane/Gaubster had nothing to do with taking sides on
a hypothetical fence. Keeping the companies that produce the foods we
trust to keep our pets healthy did.

eq
Bad Blood - 13 Mar 2005 17:23 GMT
>>>>>You all heard what happened with Bandit getting burned at the vet -
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 73 lines]
> on a hypothetical fence. Keeping the companies that produce the foods
> we trust to keep our pets healthy did.

And the Steve/Gaubster has sweet f.ck all to do with the original thread.
You've crowed about it enough. We all know about it. shut up already.
I.P.Freely - 13 Mar 2005 17:01 GMT
> Not that I agree with your characterization based on one post... however
> I have been here all along.
>
> Where have you been?  ;)

Lurking :)

> > Ever wonder why insurance policies and prices of services/goods are going
> > through the roof? - Mainly because instects like you sue at every
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> Greed has nothing to do with it. Putting shysters out of business and
> removing shoddy products from the marketplace is the point.

If you had followed the thread it was evident that this was a genuine if not
careless mistake by an employee who has been very concerned about Bandit and
made numerous enquiries as to her recovery.

Have you never made a mistake, such that you condier anyone who does a
shyster and shoddy?
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Karen - 13 Mar 2005 18:12 GMT
>> Not that I agree with your characterization based on one post... however
>> I have been here all along.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Have you never made a mistake, such that you condier anyone who does a
> shyster and shoddy?

I'm really tired of litigation USA but I have to say, this is a pretty
negligent situation. However, I believe it is more of a vet tech that was
scared of the cat not checking. I have to say, this must be a problem with
certain cats. I would be more concerned though about communicating with the
vet just because the vet seems, so far, very willing to work with CN.  What
I wonder about is....what other methods might a vet clinic employ to help in
keeping cats warm during surgery and afterwards. Bandit may be particularly
susceptible to direct heat injuries. She is an older cat (15 y.o.) and so
her tolerance might be less, but this cannot be uncommon. I think that is
the avenue that, as a vet, I would want to explore now.
Joe Canuck - 13 Mar 2005 18:44 GMT
>>Not that I agree with your characterization based on one post... however
>>I have been here all along.
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> careless mistake by an employee who has been very concerned about Bandit and
> made numerous enquiries as to her recovery.

Perhaps, perhaps not. We only know what is being reported here. The
person doing the reporting only knows what is being reported to them.

What actually happened may very likely be something else.

> Have you never made a mistake, such that you condier anyone who does a
> shyster and shoddy?

Hey, this isn't about me.  :)

If the vet tech did check the situation and realized there was an issue
but did nothing out of fear, this person is negligent because they took
no action to rectify the situation.

If the vet tech never checked in on the cat because they knew they would
be too afraid to do anything had something been wrong, they are still
negligent.
Mary - 13 Mar 2005 20:04 GMT
> > Have you never made a mistake, such that you condier anyone who does a
> > shyster and shoddy?
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> be too afraid to do anything had something been wrong, they are still
> negligent.

FWIW, Eyepee only chimes in to give people sh.t.
sriddles@aol.com - 13 Mar 2005 15:42 GMT
> You all heard what happened with Bandit getting burned at the vet - well,
> the problem was even worse.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> CatNipped

No advice,but just wanted to say, poor Bandit! Also, silvadene is a
*great* drug to promote healing and keep out bacteria. That's the drug
of choice with wound specialty human doctors for burns and other
wounds, especially those still draining. I had a lot of it left from my
deal, and it amazed me how much more quickly a minor burn will heal
using it. I'm also glad that vets are able to treat burns in cats
without taking them in every other day for debriding. That would be
horrible for her.

Sherry
Mary - 13 Mar 2005 17:35 GMT
> You all heard what happened with Bandit getting burned at the vet - well,
> the problem was even worse.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Any further advice for my poor baby would be greatly appreciated!

I don't have any advice but I wonder how the heating pad
burned her there. How long was she at the vet that time?
CatNipped - 13 Mar 2005 17:49 GMT
> > You all heard what happened with Bandit getting burned at the vet - well,
> > the problem was even worse.
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> I don't have any advice but I wonder how the heating pad
> burned her there. How long was she at the vet that time?

From 7:00AM until 4:00PM - they did the teeth cleaning early and then left
her in a cage to recover.  The had a towel wrapped around Bandit and the
heating pad (fluid-filled) wrapped around that.  I don't see how it could
have happened either.  They said they checked the heating pad and it wasn't
defective.  It's possible that since she is 15 her skin is very thing (I
know mine has gotten thinner and thinner as I've aged), but it really does
seem weird!  When I talk to my vet again tomorrow I'm going to ask that she
investigate this further.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Mary - 13 Mar 2005 18:21 GMT
> > I don't have any advice but I wonder how the heating pad
> > burned her there. How long was she at the vet that time?
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> seem weird!  When I talk to my vet again tomorrow I'm going to ask that she
> investigate this further.

I suppose it is possible that Bandit wriggled around and got the towel
off, and someone heated the fluid-filled pad too much. I thought the pad
was just down on the bottom of the cage. Lori, are these pads the type you
microwave, do you know? If you are going to use this vet, I would
put in a special request that they never use heating pads again. This
is insane. Injury over a teeth-cleaning? I am really upset about this,
for Bandit and for you. The point for me is making sure they never
hurt another animal they are being trusted to help.
CatNipped - 13 Mar 2005 19:18 GMT
> > > I don't have any advice but I wonder how the heating pad
> > > burned her there. How long was she at the vet that time?
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> for Bandit and for you. The point for me is making sure they never
> hurt another animal they are being trusted to help.

Yeah, the original burn was bad enough, but this is just too much.  I didn't
see anything else when I checked her over completely this morning when I
found the additional burn - but then again I didn't see the original burn
until after the hair fell out and it got septic.  I'm freaking badly.  After
thinking about it all morning I've decided to bring her in tomorrow instead
of just calling, and have the vet check her over inch by inch!

Hugs,

CatNipped
KellyH - 13 Mar 2005 20:16 GMT
> Yeah, the original burn was bad enough, but this is just too much.  I
> didn't
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> instead
> of just calling, and have the vet check her over inch by inch!

Granted, the vetting staff should have checked on her more frequently, but
to me this sounds like a seriously defective heating pad.  The manufacturer
may be partially to blame here.  No heating pad should get so hot that it
burns, even without a towel in between.  From what you've described, it she
was seriously burned.

Poor baby, I hope Bandit heals with no problems.

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Diane L. Schirf - 13 Mar 2005 20:31 GMT
> No heating pad should get so hot that it
> burns, even without a towel in between.

Every heating pad I've had says not to lie on it (i.e., put weight on
it) and not to fall asleep with it on. If you lie on them, they seem to
get terribly hot. You're supposed to carefully supervise invalids and
children when using them because they can and do burn.

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mlbriggs - 13 Mar 2005 21:13 GMT
>> > You all heard what happened with Bandit getting burned at the vet -
> well,
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> CatNipped

I keep wondering IF it could be something like a spider bite?   I read
where recluse spiders cause very bad wounds that get larger.
Did they do scrapings and have them analyzed?   Whatever caused it, my
sincere purrs are for Bandit's return to health    MLB
Rhonda - 13 Mar 2005 17:59 GMT
Hello CN,

I can't believe she was burned in another place! I'm glad they've pulled
that heating unit out so that no one else goes through this.

At this point, you might want to look over every square inch of her
body. It's got to be hard to see on a long-haired cat. How are her legs
and sides of her hips? Those would have in the line of fire.

She must be a pretty tough girl,

Rhonda


> Any further advice for my poor baby would be greatly appreciated!
CatNipped - 13 Mar 2005 19:15 GMT
> Hello CN,
>
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>
> Rhonda

Yeah, she's tough, but not even superman should have to go through what she
went through.  I did look all over her after I found the additional burn,
and I didn't see anything - but then I didn't see the original burn either,
or the additional burn until after the hair fell out.  I'm freaking!!!

After thinking about it all morning I've decided to bring her in tomorrow
instead of just calling and standing there while the vet checks her over
inch by inch.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Mary - 13 Mar 2005 20:02 GMT
> After thinking about it all morning I've decided to bring her in tomorrow
> instead of just calling and standing there while the vet checks her over
> inch by inch.

Good plan. They need to take this seriously. I hope
you can get them to offer some sort of explanation
of how it could have happened, so that you can
be sure they have taken steps to keep it from
happening again.
kaeli - 14 Mar 2005 15:01 GMT
> You all heard what happened with Bandit getting burned at the vet - well,
> the problem was even worse.

I've been too busy to comment as much as I used to, but I just had to pop in
this thread to send purrs to poor Bandit.

I hope she gets better soon.

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