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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / March 2005How is Jasper?
Just wondering ....... Carol > Just wondering ....... Carol Jasper is doing splendidly! His poops have returned to normal poops, he is done with his antibiotics and only has a few steroids left. He's eating like a little muncher-head. And, in addition to all this...his breath does not STANK NO MO! I wonder if his breath will go south again now that he is off the antibiotics. He definitely has some serious dental disease. I want to discuss this with the vet now that he is on the mend to see if she thinks he is stable enough to go thru a dental cleaning. I fear that his dental disease could bring him more problems in the future, so I am afraid to just leave it alone. But OTOH, he is doing so well...and knowing what a "bad" patient he is at the vet's...I'm not sure I want to put him thru the trauma of anesthesia and all that! I think the more important question...is...How are YOU doing, Carol? :) Pam I'm glad he's doing well. That's so wonderful. I'm "ok" I guess. I didn't go back to work yet. I'm still numb and in shock I guess. I feel nothing. I never got to grieve for Elvis and now I can't grieve for my husband. I'm just blah. I'm sad & depressed but I can't cry, I can't get angry, I can't do anything. It's starting to scare me kind of. It's just like nothing matters anymore so why grieve. >> Just wondering ....... Carol > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > :) > Pam > I'm glad he's doing well. That's so wonderful. > I'm "ok" I guess. I didn't go back to work yet. I'm still numb and in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It's starting to scare me kind of. It's just like nothing matters anymore > so why grieve. Well, you are more than entitled to the feelings you are experiencing that is for sure. I could say all the cliches like "stay strong" and "hang in there" but that would just sound like empty rhetoric. I hope that you can find an outlet for your pain and grief, whether it be more kitties, a therapist, or both. Your current kitty and your future kitties need you!!!! Wishing you the BEST, Pam You will likely feel like that for a while then reality will come in like a raging lion at meal time. When you're busy with details and paperwork, you are busy so there is little if no time to think. Give yourself time and take things one day at a time. .. there is no schedule for this kind of thing and don't let anyone tell you there is. I found a book called Talking to Heaven started me on the road to recovery after a similar experience so maybe it will help you too. Hang in there :)  Signature.oO rach Oo. > I'm glad he's doing well. That's so wonderful. > I'm "ok" I guess. I didn't go back to work yet. I'm still numb and in [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> :) >> Pam > I'm glad he's doing well. That's so wonderful. > I'm "ok" I guess. I didn't go back to work yet. I'm still numb and in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It's starting to scare me kind of. It's just like nothing matters anymore > so why grieve. Have you made a doctor appt. for yourself? Maybe temporary medication to allow you to function better, or perhaps the doctor can recommend a therapist who's good at grief - & its resultant depression - counseling? Cathy > >> Just wondering ....... Carol > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > :) > > Pam > I'm glad he's doing well. That's so wonderful. > I'm "ok" I guess. I didn't go back to work yet. I'm still numb and in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It's starting to scare me kind of. It's just like nothing matters anymore > so why grieve. I'm not sure is time really heals or if we just get used to the pain. But things do seem to get better with time. I wish you the best. Phil > > Just wondering ....... Carol > > Jasper is doing splendidly! His poops have returned to normal poops, he > is done with his antibiotics and only has a few steroids left. He's > eating like a little muncher-head. Great! :-) And, in addition to all this...his > breath does not STANK NO MO! I wonder if his breath will go south again > now that he is off the antibiotics. He definitely has some serious > dental disease. In that case his breath may go icky again. As soon as the vet thinks it's wise (as you mention below), I'd say to schedule a dental appt. for him. Not for his breath, but for his health (again, as you mention below) & further comfort. Cathy I want to discuss this with the vet now that he is on > the mend to see if she thinks he is stable enough to go thru a dental > cleaning. I fear that his dental disease could bring him more problems [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > :) > Pam > In that case his breath may go icky again. As soon as the vet thinks it's > wise (as you mention below), I'd say to schedule a dental appt. for him. > Not for his breath, but for his health (again, as you mention below) & > further comfort. Oh, I definitely wouldn't put him thru that torture just for the sake of his breath. I am aware that the teeth situation is a bad one and he deserves to have 'em looked at and cleaned up if the vet thinks its okay! :) > > In that case his breath may go icky again. As soon as the vet thinks it's > > wise (as you mention below), I'd say to schedule a dental appt. for him. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > deserves to have 'em looked at and cleaned up if the vet thinks its okay! :) Oh, I didn't mean that *you* would get his teeth done simply for better smelling breath, I just wanted to clarify that _I_ didn't mean that would be the reason, either! Cathy >>>In that case his breath may go icky again. As soon as the vet thinks > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Cathy whew! i'm glad *that's* all straightened out now! ;) lol, pam -procrastinating...BIG time > >>>In that case his breath may go icky again. As soon as the vet thinks > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > pam > -procrastinating...BIG time IOW - get off the computer & do some paperwork?! ;-) I'm doing the same thing - have corrected some papers, but have one batch to go... There's a winter storm warning posted here for tonight into tomorrow... so, maybe? ;-) Cathy > IOW - get off the computer & do some paperwork?! ;-) I'm doing the same > thing - have corrected some papers, but have one batch to go... There's a > winter storm warning posted here for tonight into tomorrow... so, maybe? ;-) > > Cathy Bingo. I did grade a few papers...but never enough! It's like the damn things are multiplying when I'm not paying attention!!! GRR! :) I wish Luna would make herself useful and GRADE some damn papers instead of just standing on them and trying to file them! ;) Pam > > IOW - get off the computer & do some paperwork?! ;-) I'm doing the same > > thing - have corrected some papers, but have one batch to go... There's a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > ;) Hmmmm... this one thing I haven't thought to ask the cats to do for me, to earn their keep. 'Twould be nice, though! ;-) I've asked them to please do one load of laundry, clean the bathroom, take out the garbage, some vacuuming... just once in a great while while I'm at work, but they always plead 1) no opposable thumbs, & 2) that they're physically too small in stature to accomplish any of those things. Then they go on & tell me they're already earning their keep by being lap cats, purring, etc., & therefore help lower my blood pressure. Excuses, excuses... Cathy > Pam > > Just wondering ....... Carol > > Jasper is doing splendidly! His poops have returned to normal poops, he > is done with his antibiotics and only has a few steroids left. He's > eating like a little muncher-head. And, in addition to all this...his > breath does not STANK NO MO! This is absolutely great news! I wonder if his breath will go south again > now that he is off the antibiotics. He definitely has some serious > dental disease. I want to discuss this with the vet now that he is on > the mend to see if she thinks he is stable enough to go thru a dental > cleaning. I fear that his dental disease could bring him more problems > in the future, so I am afraid to just leave it alone. Pam, dental disease could cause more problems than you can imagine. The gums have a *huge* blood supply and all the bacteria involved in dental disease can easily enter the bloodstream and cause infections in any organs - especially the heart and kidneys. But OTOH, he is > doing so well...and knowing what a "bad" patient he is at the > vet's...I'm not sure I want to put him thru the trauma of anesthesia and > all that! If the trip to the vet stresses him so much, you might want to speak to your vet about a mild (pill) tranquilizer that you can give him at home a little while before the trip. Many of my ferals and shelter cats need a mild tranq - and has made all the difference in the world! The cats are much more relaxed which also allows a better and more thorough exam. Good luck. Phil >>>Just wondering ....... Carol >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > disease can easily enter the bloodstream and cause infections in any > organs - especially the heart and kidneys. Yes, I have been made aware of this and really would like to do something about it! Like I said, I just hope that Jasper is well/stable enough to go thru more stress and trauma. Today for the first time in his 2 weeks of recovery, he seemed a little out of sorts. He didn't eat his dinner, but when we pilled him, he DID gobble up his chicken breast afterwards like a champ. So, I'll just be keeping my eye on him. Still, he is a constant worry for me! Sigh... :) Pam > >>>Just wondering ....... Carol > >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > gobble up his chicken breast afterwards like a champ. So, I'll just be > keeping my eye on him. I think I'd wait a bit until he's fully recovered and strong - but not too long. Periodontal disease often causes pain which could put him off eating and possibly result in an aversion to food. I went through that with a few cats - it was a nightmare. I had to resort to nasoesophageal tube feeding to avert hepatic lipidosis and stabilize them for anesthesia and extraction. > Still, he is a constant worry for me! Sigh... :) I'd give a year of my life to know what cats think when they make nervous wrecks of us! ;-> Phil Yes, the dental disease can be really bad. I ended up losing my Randall from the heart problems the cardiologist thought came from his yukky teeth. :( I never understand why they can't just mildly sedate them to clean their teeth instead of giving them general anesthesia. Carol >> > Just wondering ....... Carol >> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Phil > Yes, the dental disease can be really bad. I ended up losing my Randall > from the > heart problems the cardiologist thought came from his yukky teeth. :( :( That totally sucks and boy does it worry me. Jasper's breath is indeed getting stinkier again now that he is off the antibiotics. Also, his poops are not as solid and they are VERY VERY VERY stinky. Tim found a pile of kitty barf today but we dont know if it is Luna's or Jasper's. Jasper is acting totally normal...eating, moving around, drinking, spry, etc. But I plan to put a call into the vet tomorrow and see what is up. constantly worrying, Pam |
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