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Mike Z. Helm - 08 Mar 2005 00:50 GMT
I just noticed one of kitty's eyes looks milky.  Her other eye looks
normal.

She seems to be acting normal - any ideas what this could be?
Mike Z. Helm - 08 Mar 2005 00:51 GMT
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 17:50:05 -0700, Mike Z. Helm <mhelm@not.known>

>I just noticed one of kitty's eyes looks milky.  Her other eye looks
>normal.
>
>She seems to be acting normal - any ideas what this could be?

just to clarify, I don't know it's some sort of film - looks like it
might be though.
Mary - 08 Mar 2005 00:57 GMT
> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 17:50:05 -0700, Mike Z. Helm <mhelm@not.known>
>
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> just to clarify, I don't know it's some sort of film - looks like it
> might be though.

Man, this does not sound good. Didn't you just take her to the vet??
Mike Z. Helm - 08 Mar 2005 01:25 GMT
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 19:57:24 -0500, "Mary" <marys@catlovernospam.com>

>> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 17:50:05 -0700, Mike Z. Helm <mhelm@not.known>
>>
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>
>Man, this does not sound good. Didn't you just take her to the vet??

Must be thinking of someone else.  She had a URI when I first got her,
but other than that the only time she's been to a vet was for shots or
spaying.
Monique Y. Mudama - 08 Mar 2005 01:54 GMT
On 2005-03-08, Mike Z  Helm penned:

> Must be thinking of someone else.  She had a URI when I first got her, but
> other than that the only time she's been to a vet was for shots or spaying.

Time to go again!

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Mike Z. Helm - 08 Mar 2005 02:13 GMT
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:54:57 -0700, "Monique Y. Mudama"
<spam@bounceswoosh.org>

>On 2005-03-08, Mike Z  Helm penned:
>>
>> Must be thinking of someone else.  She had a URI when I first got her, but
>> other than that the only time she's been to a vet was for shots or spaying.
>
>Time to go again!

Okay, but it doesn't seem to be an emergency.

Ya' think it can wait 'til tomorrow?
Monique Y. Mudama - 08 Mar 2005 02:21 GMT
On 2005-03-08, Mike Z  Helm penned:
> On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:54:57 -0700, "Monique Y. Mudama"
><spam@bounceswoosh.org>
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>
> Ya' think it can wait 'til tomorrow?

Why doesn't it seem to be an emergency?

There have been several threads here in the last few weeks referring to eye
problems that were correctable in the first day or two, but not so thereafter.
I'm not a vet, but I am a concerned cat owner, and if my cat had this problem,
I would call an emergency clinic if my regular vet were closed for the night.
Better safe than sorry.

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Mike Z. Helm - 08 Mar 2005 03:05 GMT
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 19:21:58 -0700, "Monique Y. Mudama"
<spam@bounceswoosh.org>

>On 2005-03-08, Mike Z  Helm penned:
>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:54:57 -0700, "Monique Y. Mudama"
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>Why doesn't it seem to be an emergency?

I wouldn't consider it an emergency for myself.

>There have been several threads here in the last few weeks referring to eye
>problems that were correctable in the first day or two, but not so thereafter.
>I'm not a vet, but I am a concerned cat owner, and if my cat had this problem,
>I would call an emergency clinic if my regular vet were closed for the night.
>Better safe than sorry.

I will call in the morning.
Karen - 08 Mar 2005 02:29 GMT
> On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:54:57 -0700, "Monique Y. Mudama"
> <spam@bounceswoosh.org>
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>
> Ya' think it can wait 'til tomorrow?

I would think so. But definitely get it looked at.
Mary - 08 Mar 2005 04:12 GMT
> On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 19:57:24 -0500, "Mary" <marys@catlovernospam.com>
>
>> Must be thinking of someone else.  She had a URI when I first got her,
> but other than that the only time she's been to a vet was for shots or
> spaying.

Mike, can you refresh my memory? How old is kitty and how long
have you had her?
Mike Z. Helm - 08 Mar 2005 05:10 GMT
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 23:12:51 -0500, "Mary" <marys@catlovernospam.com>

>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 19:57:24 -0500, "Mary" <marys@catlovernospam.com>
>>
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>Mike, can you refresh my memory? How old is kitty and how long
>have you had her?

She's about 8 months - I rescued her from the parking lot at work last
August (in Arizona, where and when temps of 115 are not uncommon).

The vet estimated she was 5-6 weeks old and then we noticed she had been
hit with a pellet gun.  Fortunately, it had barely broken the skin -
just enough for it to stick in her fur.

I just added this picture to my page

http://members.cox.net/zap644/pictures/kitty_6.jpg

nothing else new, but in case you missed it when I posted before, there
are a few other pics:

http://members.cox.net/zap644/index.htm
-L. - 08 Mar 2005 05:21 GMT
<snip>

> I just added this picture to my page
>
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>
> http://members.cox.net/zap644/index.htm

Pretty kitty.  I can't really see the "film" in the picture, but if it
is a somewhat opaque looking haze covering the entire eye, it may be
kitty herpes in her eye.  Get her to the vet as soon as it is
practical.  

How long has she had the "film"?

-L.
Karen - 08 Mar 2005 05:43 GMT
> <snip>
>
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>
> -L.

I think that is an old pic. Man, who could do that to that little ball of
fluff!
Mike Z. Helm - 08 Mar 2005 07:11 GMT
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:43:27 -0600, Karen <kchuplis@alltel.net>

>> <snip>
>>
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>>
>I think that is an old pic.

Indeed it is.

> Man, who could do that to that little ball of
>fluff!

You're not saying what I think you're saying, are you?

I was dead serious when I told Monique I didn't consider this an
emergency, just as I wouldn't rush myself to the ER if the same thing
happened to one of my eyes.

I missed other posts that she said were about eye problems that could
have been corrected within a day or 2, but ended up causing permanent
damage.

I would think that if the symptoms matched, she would have said so.  I
was hoping someone had seen something like this before and could shed
some light on the possible cause (and I realize it would only be a
possible cause - I don't expect a 100% accurate diagnosis posting to a
newsgroup)

And FWIW, it's definitely not more than 24 hours old, probably closer to
12-15.

She's acting normal, she isn't in any pain, she can see out of both
eyes.  One eye just seems sort of milky or murkier than the other.  Her
vision might be affected, but she certainly isn't blind.

I don't recall specifically, but I think I've seen the same symptoms in
dogs before, although IIRC, usually older dogs.
Mary - 08 Mar 2005 07:15 GMT
> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:43:27 -0600, Karen <kchuplis@alltel.net>
>
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>
> You're not saying what I think you're saying, are you?

She meant "who could shoot her with a pellet gun."
Mike Z. Helm - 08 Mar 2005 07:37 GMT
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 02:15:34 -0500, "Mary" <marys@catlovernospam.com>

>> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:43:27 -0600, Karen <kchuplis@alltel.net>
>>
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>
>She meant "who could shoot her with a pellet gun."

Oh - okay.  That makes sense.  I dunno either, but I think a little time
in Tent City with Sherrif Joe would be in order.  
Karen - 08 Mar 2005 12:09 GMT
> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:43:27 -0600, Karen <kchuplis@alltel.net>
>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> You're not saying what I think you're saying, are you?

I meant shooting at her with a bb like you said you found when you found
her.
Diane L. Schirf - 08 Mar 2005 13:32 GMT
> > Man, who could do that to that little ball of
> >fluff!
>
> You're not saying what I think you're saying, are you?

They mean, who could have shot her with a pellet gun? :(

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Monique Y. Mudama - 08 Mar 2005 18:53 GMT
On 2005-03-08, Mike Z  Helm penned:

> I was dead serious when I told Monique I didn't consider this an emergency,
> just as I wouldn't rush myself to the ER if the same thing happened to one
> of my eyes.

I'll readily admit that when it comes to myself and my loved ones, I'd rather
see a doctor unnecessarily than find out afterwards that I didn't go when I
should have.

It seems like whenever I decided to "wait and see," I've later been told that
if I'd had the matter addressed promptly, it could have been fixed.  Then
again, whenever I do see the doctor right away, I'm mostly told to
quitcherbitchin =P

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Mike Z. Helm - 08 Mar 2005 07:47 GMT
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:43:27 -0600, Karen <kchuplis@alltel.net>

>> <snip>
>>
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>I think that is an old pic. Man, who could do that to that little ball of
>fluff!

apologies for my apparent misinterpretation and subsequent overreaction.

usenet is a funny place, and I was still in a certain mindset after
someone claimed Ted Kennedy was my hero because I dared to say something
critical of Bush's policies in another group.

I think the only time I've ever even mentioned Ted Kennedy on usenet
before is to point out to some lunatic that he's fairly hypocritical for
going on about Laura Bush murdering her boyfriend while ignoring
Chappaquiddick.  (Apparently, long before Laura Bush took Bush as her
last name, there was a car accident.  There was no indication that Laura
was drunk, but she did apparently run a stop sign.  Someone is upset
that she isn't rotting in jail for it right now.)
Karen - 08 Mar 2005 12:11 GMT
> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:43:27 -0600, Karen <kchuplis@alltel.net>
>
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> was drunk, but she did apparently run a stop sign.  Someone is upset
> that she isn't rotting in jail for it right now.)

People are just plain strange about politics. (Well, other things too, but
they tend to really go off the deep end over that.)
Mary - 08 Mar 2005 06:25 GMT
> On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 23:12:51 -0500, "Mary" <marys@catlovernospam.com>
>
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>
> http://members.cox.net/zap644/pictures/kitty_6.jpg

Oh my God, she is so beautiful! A long-haired dilute
blue-cream tortoiseshell like my Gnarly who died
in 2001 at age 20.

> nothing else new, but in case you missed it when I posted before, there
> are a few other pics:
>
> http://members.cox.net/zap644/index.htm

Ahh, now I remember the claw photo. She looks solid gray
when she is older. Gorgeous girl. "Yet another picture of Kitty"
is clearly Kitty Porn. :) My goodness what a glamour girl.
Get her to the vet tomorrow, okay? See about her eye.
Let us know, too. I hope it is trivial and easily treated.
Mike Z. Helm - 08 Mar 2005 06:56 GMT
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 01:25:55 -0500, "Mary" <marys@catlovernospam.com>

>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 23:12:51 -0500, "Mary" <marys@catlovernospam.com>
>>
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>when she is older. Gorgeous girl. "Yet another picture of Kitty"
>is clearly Kitty Porn. :)

Just in case anyone actually thinks that box behind her is porn, it's
not.  It's a box from a computer game (Heavy Metal FAKK 2).

I keep my porn out of sight like all you other decent people.

Actually, I have no idea what you meant by that remark.

> My goodness what a glamour girl.
>Get her to the vet tomorrow, okay? See about her eye.
>Let us know, too. I hope it is trivial and easily treated.

Will do.  She is acting normally, and I convinced myself that she can
see out of it.  I think it probably is trivial, but it is an unknown and
thus a concern.
Mary - 08 Mar 2005 07:11 GMT
"Mike Z. Helm" <mhelm@not.known> wrote > >> I just added this picture to my
page

> >> http://members.cox.net/zap644/pictures/kitty_6.jpg
> >
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>
> Actually, I have no idea what you meant by that remark.

Just a lame joke. Gardeners call pretty flowers Flower Porn.
Kitty porn, get it? Such a pretty cat she just makes us cat
people drool

> > My goodness what a glamour girl.
> >Get her to the vet tomorrow, okay? See about her eye.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> see out of it.  I think it probably is trivial, but it is an unknown and
> thus a concern.

Hope it is.
Monique Y. Mudama - 08 Mar 2005 07:28 GMT
On 2005-03-08, Mike Z  Helm penned:
> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 01:25:55 -0500, "Mary" <marys@catlovernospam.com>
>>>
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>
> Actually, I have no idea what you meant by that remark.

Kitty porn.  It's, you know, kitty porn.

If Mary's definition is the same as mine, then here's an example of Oscar in
some kitty porn:

http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca/rpca-2004.11.22/oscar/tn/oscar_cutie.jpg.html

In fact, my original caption for this shot was "Porn Star Oscar," but I didn't
know if my audience, which includes my family, would be amused or offended.

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KellyH - 08 Mar 2005 20:49 GMT
> If Mary's definition is the same as mine, then here's an example of Oscar
> in
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> know if my audience, which includes my family, would be amused or
> offended.

OMG, that is too funny!!  She does look like a porn star!

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Lesley Madigan - 08 Mar 2005 13:31 GMT
> The vet estimated she was 5-6 weeks old and then we noticed she had been
> hit with a pellet gun.  Fortunately, it had barely broken the skin -
> just enough for it to stick in her fur.

What a lovely kitty! How could anyone shoot at that beautiful ball of
fluff! She's so beautiful I would love to take her home!

Lesley

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(I KNOW they'll get me for that later)
 
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