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scupper79 - 06 Mar 2005 22:19 GMT
Hello,

African Serval of 28 lbs and 2 years old just jumped into a fish tank and
bleeding everywhere.   Only 2 months ago had 0.13 mL of thy***  -10 min
wait- then 0.3 mL of Ketocet  in muscle(don't know spelling, voicemail
numbers from our vet back home).

Last night when he cut his foot, blood was everywhere.  The emergency vet
here (4 hours from other vet) said he just nicked the artery, no tendons
were cut, and if it stops bleeding everything is ok.   We left with the
impression she just didn't want to fool with him.

Today, no bleeding, fair bit of goozing, expected, but it's cut open the
size of a nickel, a little piece of white I can see hanging (I'm worried
it's a tendon, but I know nothing), he's favoring his foot impressively, and
I want it stitched up.

Is anesthesia a problem?   I know the basic worries, I over-research
everything.   But, the cut sickens me, I would feel so much better if it
were closed and dry.

Again, only 2 months ago from an ear hematoma he went under the previously
mentioned dosages of anesthesia.  Are we making him retarded if we do it
again?  Are we playing russian roulette?   No accident for 2 years and all
of a sudden, two of them.   Ahh, parenting is rough.

thank you much,

scupper79@msn.com

ck
Mary - 06 Mar 2005 22:34 GMT
> Hello,
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> scupper79@msn.com

Take him to a good vet Monday morning, have him stitched up
and ask your questions there.

Is there any way you keep him safer so that he does not hurt himself like
this
in the future?
mlbriggs - 06 Mar 2005 23:23 GMT
> Hello,
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> scupper79@msn.com

> ck

Is there a Zoo in your city?  Perhaps a Zoo Vet would be of help.  MLB
Mary - 07 Mar 2005 00:07 GMT
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> Is there a Zoo in your city?  Perhaps a Zoo Vet would be of help.  MLB

That's a very good idea.I imagine a 28-lb cat would intimidate
some regular vets.
scupper79 - 07 Mar 2005 01:48 GMT
Back home is the same lady that works on our 48 bison, half a dozen horses,
200 head of Angus.  She has done a world of work for us and would drop
anything for us.   She has bought extra books for him when I bought him.
She has treated us like family.  The vet up here makes me feel like I'm in
vet of McDonald's drive-thru.

And as far as the furniture, yes I have taken all these things into
consideration.  5 years of planning before I got him.   Sorry, just a bit
sensitive to the Yellow and Blue make Green type responses I get when
dealing with him.

The zoo vet theory sounds pretty cool.

Thanks for the advice,

ck

I will post his results tomorrow evening or in the next few days.   I am
putting him under the exact same dosage of anesthesia tomorrow at 7:30 all
the way back home.

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Mary - 07 Mar 2005 02:03 GMT
> And as far as the furniture, yes I have taken all these things into
> consideration.  5 years of planning before I got him.

Yet you never considered the fact that a fish tank might not be
the best thing to put in the room with a 28-pound cat?

Sorry, just a bit
> sensitive to the Yellow and Blue make Green type responses I get when
> dealing with him.

I don't understand this statement. Hope you'll take him to get
stitched up tomorrow.
scupper79 - 07 Mar 2005 03:50 GMT
Ya and I considered not putting a ferret and 2 hamsters in our bedroom where
he stays during the day, but since his behavior is remarkable, he doesn't
bother what should be his natural prey.  Shouldn't be able to put a wild
animal in a private airplane or on a boat, but he seems to do just fine
every weekend.    We know each others limitations.

He knows he'll get waterbottled if jumping on something he's not aloud.  I
don't need to defend myself on this.   And yes, I'm pretty sure yellow and
blue make green, were you?

My original question was about anesthesia.  Thinking there may be a proud
vet out there, I would get some great info.

Next time my subject will be toward licensed and experienced vets and not
just toward people with 2 1/2 cents to share.

thanks Mary,

ck

You can have the last word.

> Back home is the same lady that works on our 48 bison, half a dozen
> horses, 200 head of Angus.  She has done a world of work for us and would
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Mary - 07 Mar 2005 04:24 GMT
> Ya and I considered not putting a ferret and 2 hamsters in our bedroom where
> he stays during the day, but since his behavior is remarkable, he doesn't
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> You can have the last word.

alt.med.veterinary
KellyH - 07 Mar 2005 16:34 GMT
> He knows he'll get waterbottled if jumping on something he's not aloud.  I
> don't need to defend myself on this.   And yes, I'm pretty sure yellow and
> blue make green, were you?

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

> Next time my subject will be toward licensed and experienced vets and not
> just toward people with 2 1/2 cents to share.

I don't think there is a vet on this group.  We're all just people who
share our homes with and love cats.  Sorry we're not up to snuff.

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-Kelly
kelly at farringtons dot net
"Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG

scupper79 - 08 Mar 2005 03:00 GMT
thanks for the med group post.
I use Outlook Express so I don't always get to see the rules of each group.

and the yellow and blue comment, keep chasing your tail.  I don't know.

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BASIL UPDATE:

Too many details to describe about the last 3 nights.  Overall, I did drive
him home, I haven't slept for sh.t, and he's ok.   The lady up here, the
expensive city chick wanted to give him four times the dosage I thought he
needed.  I was right.   She also couldn't identify it as a tendon, I was
right.   Why was I right on two accounts, I don't know sh.t, I was just
concerned.  $90 charge.

Lady back home who sees our bison, cows, housecats, dogs, saw him, dealt
with him fine, tendon repaired fine, stitched up fine, my boy chewed on me a
bit before and after, but that was expected.   I would give my effort a 99%
success until a few hours ago when I finally made it home, he went to town
on his wrap.    I judged him incorrectly, took it off (almost 12 hours up
anyway), thought he would just lick the stitches but he went to town on them
as well.   So I had to get chewed on some more to think of yet another
alternate plan.  He ripped one out for sure, now I'm worried about if he
penetrated deep enough to rip the tendon stitch as well, how do I tell. I
can't.   I just have to let this one go and heal unless I want more
anesthesia.  Rrrr...   I put the lampshade on successfully this time, and
he's going absolutely nuts.  I feel sorry for him.

Next challenge:  getting him to eat.     I will manage.   Like I said in my
first post, this parenting thing is hard.

I need sleep,

ck

I did get to visit our bison and get some really good pictures, should I put
a link to my webspace when I'm done, which will include Basil as well, or is
that a bit out of guidelines?

> Ya and I considered not putting a ferret and 2 hamsters in our bedroom
> where he stays during the day, but since his behavior is remarkable, he
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Mary - 08 Mar 2005 04:22 GMT
> thanks for the med group post.
> I use Outlook Express so I don't always get to see the rules of each group.
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> a link to my webspace when I'm done, which will include Basil as well, or is
> that a bit out of guidelines?

You are just not very smart. I hope for poor Basil. Jesus.
 
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