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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / March 2005FVRCP booster needed?
Is a booster vaccination necessary three weeks after the initial FVRCP vaccine to maintain immunity???? There seems to be quite a bit of controversy over this in the vet clinics in my area. Some vets say Yes, others say No. My new cat is due for this "booster" if it is required. Should I get it done?? Thanks, Kelly > Is a booster vaccination necessary three weeks after the initial FVRCP > vaccine to maintain immunity???? > > There seems to be quite a bit of controversy over this in the vet clinics in > my area. Some vets say Yes, others say No. My new cat is due for this > "booster" if it is required. Should I get it done?? Depends on the age of the cat. If he's a kitten less than 12-15 weeks old, yes. The kitten series aren't actually "boosters". They're vaccinations given at 3 week intervals that coincide with declining passively acquired maternal immunity. Maternal antibodies attack vaccine antigens in the same way the antibodies attack a virus. This interferes with immunization and results in vaccine failure. The principal of the 'kitten series' is that one of the vaccinations will "break through" -- immunize the kitten after maternal immunity wanes - which is usually, but not necessarily, after 12 weeks - or even 15 weeks if the queen has a high VN antibody titer to FP. Maternal immunity against FVR & calicivirus wane sooner than maternal immunity against FP. Phil >> Is a booster vaccination necessary three weeks after the initial FVRCP >> vaccine to maintain immunity???? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > old, > yes. <kitten series info snipped> He is not a kitten, but a stray cat, one and a half years old. Unknown vaccine history (we're assuming he's had nothing). Is the booster still needed? Kelly > Is a booster vaccination necessary three weeks after the initial FVRCP > vaccine to maintain immunity???? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Thanks, > Kelly I'd like to know the "true" answer to this question from the people who make up these vaccination rules. I have four, 9 month old strays that have never been vaccinated. One vet says the cats don't need a second booster and another vet says they do. It wouldn't be so bad if the vaccinations didn't cost $36 per cat. And now there are veterinarians that require cats to have the FVRCP vaccination before they'll perform surgery and such things. From what I've read these vaccinations don't even prevent infections but only reduce the sypmtoms. The whole thing is absolutely insane. I think it's all a huge scam to get your money. I also think I'm feeling very frustrated, please excuse me. . And now there are > veterinarians that require cats to have the FVRCP vaccination before > they'll perform surgery and such things. .............that's silly. It makes no sense. What are the reasons they're requiring this? The only vaccination required by law is rabies. buglady take out the dog before replying > . And now there are > > veterinarians that require cats to have the FVRCP vaccination before [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > buglady > take out the dog before replying A lot of vets do require vaccines though before spaying or neutering. Many will do the surgery at the same time they give vaccines. IMO this shouldn't be done as the animal's immune system will already be taking a hit by the surgery. It also says in the vaccine insert to only give to completely healthy animals. An animal going through a surgery is not going to be 100% healthy. Mike, if the vet is requiring this, you can tell them that you will bring the cats back after the surgery, after they have had a chance to recover from the spaying/neutering. > A lot of vets do require vaccines though before spaying or neutering. ...........Yes I got this song and dance WRT rabies vaccine, but any other vaccines were not mentioned. AFAIC they have no right to require any of the other vaccines. I won't use the multivalent ones anyway. > Many will do the surgery at the same time they give vaccines. IMO this > shouldn't be done as the animal's immune system will already be taking > a hit by the surgery. ........and my current vet's office personnel told me that they were worried about rabies and blood during the surgery and then said they could have the rabies vaccine on the same day. Makes zero sense - immunity is not instant. They also said it wouldn't hurt him. huh, yah sure, he'll really develop immunity fast having just been knocked out and neutered. I said no thank you, vaccinated first, waited 2 weeks, then neutered. Mike, if the vet is requiring this, you > can tell them that you will bring the cats back after the surgery, > after they have had a chance to recover from the spaying/neutering. Mike if the vets are requiring you to get a multivalent vaccine before surgery instead of just suggesting it, find another vet. Vaccines should be given according to risk, not rote. buglady take out the dog before replying > > A lot of vets do require vaccines though before spaying or neutering. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > surgery instead of just suggesting it, find another vet. Vaccines should > be given according to risk, not rote. I wish I could find another vet. I have four strays that I intend to keep but they need to be spayed/neutered. I've contacted nearly every veterinarian office in the county and they all charge $150+ to spay one cat. I went through a spay/neuter program and they found a vet who will spay one cat for $75. This is the absolute cheapest in this county. There are cheaper places but they all take 2hrs to get to and I don't want to have frightened cats riding in the car that long. I'm almost tempted to take the cats to the animal shelter and turn them in. Then come back a few hours later and adopt them. That would be so much cheaper than almost anything else. > I'm almost tempted to take the cats to the animal shelter and > turn them in. Then come back a few hours later and adopt them. > That would be so much cheaper than almost anything else. Most shelters aren't going to allow one who turns in the cat to come back and claim it. Your best bet is to call the local rescue groups, or the county SPCA and find out if they do low cost shot clinics.  SignatureCheryl > > I'm almost tempted to take the cats to the animal shelter and > > turn them in. Then come back a few hours later and adopt them. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > back and claim it. Your best bet is to call the local rescue groups, > or the county SPCA and find out if they do low cost shot clinics. Oh dear! I think some people may have misunderstood what I said (or I probably didn't say it right). I was just joking about taking the cats to the shelter. I had been telling someone last week that it will probably cost between $500-$600+ to get these cats spayed and vaccinated. And that I could go to the animal shelter and get 4 spayed/neutered and vaccinated cats for like $400. So I was just joking that I should take (or have someone take) the cats to the shelter and then go there like 10 minutes later and adopt them to save a couple hundred dollars for future cat health use. But I was just joking, I wouldn't take them to the shelter, I like them too much. They're mine (and I'm theirs) and no one else can have them! lol I wouldn't risk that. I know of someone who was incredibly mad at their dog one night and took him back to the shelter. He came back the next day to get him, and the dog had already been euthanized. There's just not enough room at shelters. Rhonda > I'm almost tempted to take the cats to the animal shelter and turn > them in. Then come back a few hours later and adopt them. That would > be so much cheaper than almost anything else. > I wouldn't risk that. I know of someone who was incredibly mad at their dog > one night and took him back to the shelter. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Rhonda ... Wow. I can't imagine taking a pet to the shelter "in cold blood," as it were. I've been really angry at pets before, but it's never occured to me to take them to the shelter for it! I'm not saying there aren't situations in which giving up the animal is best (I did this myself last year, and it was awful), but it should be a decision you make with all the facts available, including the nature of the shelter. When I brought Eros to a shelter, it was a shelter that our kennel people and our vet enthused about, and while the shelter in question doesn't euthanize healthy, non-aggressive animals, they still allowed me to give contact info so that they could notify me 24 hours before euthanasia so that I could pick him up instead. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca . I've contacted nearly every > veterinarian office in the county and they all charge $150+ to spay > one cat. I went through a spay/neuter program and they found a vet who > will spay one cat for $75. ...........for a spay this is a good price. Spaying is abdominal surgery and isn't cheap. I just noticed on the bill for the male neuter on my recent stray that they had 55 bucks which included a discount of 44 bucks. No one said a word to me about a discount. I don't know if they do this routinely (and it's just hype on a piece of paper and they never charge 99 bucks) or if they do it for strays or what. .......unfortunately, rescuing 4 cats at once can get pricey. I'd go with the 75 buck one. If they insist on rabies beforehand you'll have to wait a few weeks after the innoculation. It doesn't protect anyone in the clinic or the cat to get it the same day as the surgery. Tell them you'll get the other shots after they fully recover from surgery, then make your decision about them then. buglady take out the dog before replying >> A lot of vets do require vaccines though before spaying or neutering. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > immunity fast having just been knocked out and neutered. I said no thank > you, vaccinated first, waited 2 weeks, then neutered. Wow, that is crazy. Sounds like they were trying to sell vaccines, and not considering the health and welfare of the animal. SignaturePawsForThought >> Is a booster vaccination necessary three weeks after the initial FVRCP >> vaccine to maintain immunity???? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > huge scam to get your money. I also think I'm feeling very frustrated, > please excuse me. Where the heck do you live? |
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