They did used to market it for dogs - I forget the brand name.  It's
not a bad idea, actually.

-L.

I emailed Star Kist and asked them why they don't bottle tuna flavored
water. You should too. I sure think there is a market for it.

There was something on the news awhile back about flavored bottled
water. They had chicken and a couple other flavors. The reporter
tasted it and said it did taste as advertised, but he didn't like it

I haven't actually seen it in stores though.

I think I would probably look into a way to flavor it myself. Much
cheaper, and I could pick a flavor I know they like. It probably
wouldn't be that hard to flavor some water.

CatNipped <lcrewsREMOVE@THIShouston.rr.com> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

There used to be a flavored cat water on the market, as I recall, that
also had a mild carbonation to it to give it a little "zip."  It came
and went so quickly that I can't even remember the name of it.  I keep
thinking Cat Sip, but I know that's a cat milk on the market now
(better than Whiskas Cat Milk, which is NASTY!)  

I use canned chicken (like tuna) fairly frequently and only the stuff
packed in water and without added sodium.  I dilute it 3:1 and Kami
*loves* it.  It's hard to know what they'll like.  I would have though
she'd prefer the soft chicken Pounce Hairball Treats, since she rarely
likes seafood flavors of anything, but she likes the Crunchy Tuna.  Go
figure.

HOWEDY CatNipped,

To entice them to come HOWETA HIDING to have a drink...

INDEEDY. It's CALLED STRESS INDUCED AUTO-
IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.
Dogs kats horses and kids of all kinds GET The Puppy
Wizard's SYNDROME from repeated brief intermittent
PUNISHMENT FEAR FORCE and INTIMDIATION <{); ~ ) >

There's 3 CUREs (C-HOWENT 'M THREE CURES) for
CHRONIC STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE.

You can STUDY your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual (it's made for kats and kids of all kinds to boot) or
you can buy The Amazing Puppy Wizard's Doggy Do Right
(And Kittly Will And A Rooster Did And A Cockatoo And
A C-HOWE And A Horse Or Two Did Too) Device OR you
can massage your kitty kat's tallywhacker with a warm
moist THOWEL for five minutes at bedtime to PREVENT
STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE <{) ; ~ ) >

You mean other SYMPTOMS of The Puppy
Wizard's SYNDROME <{) ; ~ )  > Better include
your ear infections and so called allergies and
cruciate ligament ruptures and degenerative
myelopathaies and dental DIS-EASE and the
list goes on and on and on.

PERHAPS your kats don't FEEL SAFE enough
to go to the water hole?

Yeah. Mrs. Puppy Wizard sez the same thing
but she can't PROVE IT on accHOWENT of
every thing HE SEZ IS CORRECT <{) ; ~ ) >

Wrong again. The Amazing Puppy Wizard was
visiting HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual Student Professor
Daniel and Sunshine to assist her with trainsportation
to the HOWEspital and returned after two days
of Sunshine being tended to by his neighbor.

When we sat DHOWEN Mrs. Puppy Wizard
had a bottle of water which Sunshine jumped
up on the C-HOWECH and began to lick. On
EXXXAMINING his water bowl it had been filled
to the top with TAP WATER and HE REFUSED
to touch it <{) ; ~ )  >

Seems The Amazing Puppy Wizar is less
discriminating that a P-HOWEND PUPPY <{) :  ~ (  >

Yeah. Beer works better if you ain't takin
any anti psychotic medications <{) ; ~ )  >

Yeah. Much of it ain't necessary or apupriate to boot <{) ;~ ) >

Chronic renal failure is CAUSED BY STRESS, not
insufficient or inferior water intake. The STRESS
from just traditional handling and training and bribing
and crating causes the body to break DHOWEN <{) ;~ ) >

INDEEDY. It WAS a STRETCH, till you EXXXAMINE
The Amazing Puppy Wizard's ARCHIVES here on HIS
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Kat And Kid Training
Method Forums and School Of HARD KNOCKS and
HUMAN BEAHVIOR RESEARCH LABORATORY.

You're settin in it <{) ; ~  )  >

Or would you PREFER to rub his tallywhacker
for five minutes at bedtim or would you prefer
to simply NOT PUNISH BRIBE CRATE FORCE
or otherWIZE INTIMIDATE SPAY or NEUTER
your innocent preciHOWES critters <{) ;~ ) >

The Amazing Puppy Wizard AIN'T the huggable type.
HOWEver, you can't dispute the FACTS as ARCHIVED.

NHOWE, do you REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT
a CURE for your critters DEATHLY DIS-EASES or
would you PREFER to acclaim "MILESTONES" when
your German Shepherd Dog survives till the ripe old
age of 9 years old DESPITE his DEATHLY DIS-EASES
or believing 14 years is bein OLD for a kat <{) : ~ ) >

HOWEDY sharon too, veterinary practice office
manage and SPHOWES of the veterinarian,

From: "Sharon too" <requestmyaddyfi...@nospam.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 02:11:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Enough already ! This is senseless.
Puppy Wizard Foolishness

The Amazing Puppy Wizard repies to pat "unsurreality"
PROBABLY for the last time unless she asks for heelp.
WE KNOW SHE'S HEARD THAT PRYOR!!!

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

LIKE THIS:

sinofabitch writes:

That's a LIE.

THAT'S A LIE!

NO!!! THAT'S A LIE!!!

INDEEDY!

"Neatly," and "Smartly."

"sinofabitch" instead of sionnach.

That's El CORRECTO!

No. YOU SAYIN *THAT* PROVES YOU'RE INSANE!

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAHAHAHHAHHAAA!!!

AnyWON readin the QUOTE will SEE we got a
lying dog abusing punk thug coward mental case
hurtin dogs and lying abHOWET it KNOWIN it's
in her own POSTED CASE HISTORY and then
we got a DOG ABUSING MENTAL CASE like
you who comes along and LIES FOR the lying
dog abusing MENTAL CASE on accHOWENT
of SHE CAN'T DENY HER OWN LIES!!!

And THAT makes YOU a lynig dog abusing
MENTAL CASE and The Amazing Puppy
Wizard don't got to REPLY to  your posts on
accHOWENT of your own POSTED CASE
HISTORY PROVES you're a dog abusing
punk thug coward active long term incurable
MENTAL CASE.

Yeah...SIMPLE. HOWEver pat, you AIN'T SIMPLE,
you're INSANE. And you're a dog abuser. And
you can't post here abHOWETS nodoGgamened
MOORE.

"AND COBBLED IT TOGETHER"

FROM WON POST. You can read the
whole thread in "Growling Westie" where
sinofabitch TRIES to EXXXPLAIN that
SHE WAS PLAYIN with the dog after
IT had been PULLIN HER ARM HOWET
on ITS PRONGED SPIKED PINCH CHOKE
COLLAR for a half HOWER and WASN'T
CALMING DHOWEN on his FIRST DAY
in her ILLEGAL DOG WALKING BUSINIESS.

No, THEREFORE YOU'RE TOTALLY INSANE!
sinofabitch trained nessa's dogs to TURN ON
HER, welll, with A LOT of heelp from janet boss.

You mean The Amazing Puppy Wizard, VETERINARY
PRACTICIONER'S WIFE. DON'T YOU.

Tsk tsk. You know sharon too, it's on accHOWENT
of folks who RESPOND to "TURDS' CRAP" that we
got dog abusing mental cases like pat aka unsurreality
and sinofabitch and tommy sorenson and Master Of
Deception blankman and professor SCRUFF SHAKE
HURTIN and INTIMIDATING and MURDERING dogs
which YOUR VETERINARY PRACTICE GETS TO
DO FOR THESE ETHICKAL BREEDERS TRAINERS
and DOG LOVERS.

You mean NOT HURTIN DOGS and making them
DEATHLY ILL with CHRONIC STRESS INDUCED
AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's
SYNDROME, sharon too?

You mean you AGREE with a lying dog abusing
MENTAL CASE to DEFEND YOUR ALLEGED
RIGHT to HURT INTIMDIATE and MURDER dogs
FOR MONEY?

Tsk tsk, sharon too. There AIN'T NUTHIN
you can DO abHOWET it, on accHOWENT
of you brought it on yourself by defending
abusing dogs on accHOWENT of YOU
PROFIT FROM IT.

EITHER THAT, or it's your KARMA bitin
you in tha arse again, sharon too. WE
KNOW THAT AIN'T THE FIRST TIME
it's happened to you, on accHOWENT
of THAT'S YOUR HUMAN NATURE,
the NATURE of a dog abusing coward.

And THAT'S HOWE COME a VETERINARY
PRACTICIONER would DENY The Puppy
Wizard's SYNDROME and it's CURE.

Take two of your own medecines and set DHOWEN
and study your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual on accHOWENT of your CUSTOMERS
are gonna be ASKIN if you APPROVE of NOT
HURTING DOGS to train them, sharon too...

The AVAMA will RECOMMEND peole ASK
on accHOWENT of there IS a DIRECT RELATION
to HOWE we TRAIN HOWER DOGS and HOWE
we TREAT HOWER PEOPLE.

-Sharon

HOWEDY sharon too, veterinary practicioner's
wife and office manager,

As a DOG LOVER and ETHICKAL VETERINARY
PRACTICIONER, HOWE do you think your clinic
will respond to the AVMA'S recommendation to
post a copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual in your front office and assist your
CUSTOMERS in understanding and applying
the TECHNIQUES and TECHNOLOGY The
Amazing Puppy Wizard has PROVEN CURES
STRESS INDUCDED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE?

IMAGINE HOWE it will be when your clinic starts
SELLIN HEELTH instead of HEELIN WHOWENDS
caused by THE METHDOS YOU TEACH YOUR
"PATIENTS" to HURT INTIMIDATE and CAUSE
the DENTAL DIS-EASE and IRRITIBLE BHOWEL
DIS-EASE and CRUCIATE LIGAMENT DIS-EASE
and URINARY TRACT ? BHOWEL DIS-EASE and
ENDOCRINE DIS-EASE, eh sharon?

You'll CURE 90% of your current MEDICAL
MALPRACTICE NEARLY INSTANTLY.

Of curse, the AVMA PROBABLY won't be WIZED
UP to the FACT that neutering causes FEAR
AGGRESSION... at least for another five years
or so after they start studing the CAUSE of 90%
of CHRONIC HEELTH problems.

IMAGINE??? NO MOORE INTESTINAL SURGERY
to pull your DH HOWETA your warm bed at nite!

NO MOORE  auto accidents to pull doctor DH from
Sunday Dinner!

NO MOORE CHRONIC EAR INFECTIONS to treat FOREVER!

NO MOORE SELF MUTILATION and PAW LICKING
DERMATITIS TO OPERATE ON! NO MOORE CUTTIN
OFF TOES TO CURE CHEWIN!!!

NO MOORE BROKEN TEETH TO FIX.

NO MOORE DENTAL MAINTAINANCE CLEANIN!!!

ON ACCHOWENT OF:

Dogs DON'T GET BAD TEETH and most of those
other DIS-EASES UNLESS THEY'RE STRESSED,
sharon the vet's wife too, and The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual's STUDENTS REPORTS, METHODS
and INDEPENDENT OF HUMAN INTERVENTION, The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's Doggy Do Right (And Kitty
Will And A Rooster Did And A Cockatoo And A Cow
And A Horse Or Two Did Too) MACHINE,  PROVES IT
SCIENTIFICALLY.

Perhaps Dr. sharon too will be interested in presenting
his findings to the AVAMA as soon as possible so ALL
the VETERINARY PRACTICIONERS will be able to
STOP 90% of their current practice HEELING DOGS
YOU'VE MADE DEATHLY ILL!!!

LIKE THIS:

Death Producing Ulcers: "Emotional Influences
On Health & Behavior" Dr. George Von Hilsheimer

Emotional Influences On Behavior

Illness is directly related to depression and lack of
adjustment, particularly to a new environment (Parens,
McConville & Kaplan, 1966).

A WIDE RANGE of PSYCHOSOMATIC or
CORTICOVISCERAL DIS-EASES was surveyed
by Wittkower (1965) to demonstrate the enormous
importance of emotional factors in general health.

Interview findings of emotional material (recently
experienced hopelessness) pryor to biological
examinations correctly identified 11 out of 19 with
cervical cancer, and 25 of 32 who were cancer free
even though psychological tests failed to discriminate
these groups (Schmale & Iker, 1966)

150 lung cancer patients showed significantly
constricted expression of emotions. The had fewer
childhood behavior problems, and lower neuroticism
score than their cancer free controls. Heavy cigarette
smokers who DO NOT INHALE are more apt to have LUNG
CANCER. They, too, show LOWER neuroticism scores.
Among heavy cigarette smokers poor emotional
expression is as highly related to cancer as urban
residence and is more important than a chronic cough
or an air polluted environment (Kissen, 1966).

A ten year observation of all the women who developed
cancer in an isolated pupulation of 2,550 showed that
they tended to be unstable or sub stable personalities
characterized by melancholy and extraversion,
especially marked with those of an undecided body
build (Hagll, 1966). Personality dynamics effect both
the development of cancer and it's SITE. Cancer
may result from what appears to be a failure to grow--
somatically, behaviorally and psychologically
(Grinker, 1966).

In 109 cases leukemia and lymphoma were associated
with a number of losses or separations and with
feelings of sadness, anxiety, anger or hopelessness.
The PRIMARY FACTOR seems to be the shame and
hopelessness of running out of psychological resources
(Green, 1966). Cervical cancer patients are less
emotionally responsive, more isolative, and less
frequently diagnosed as having clinical neuroses than
cancer free patients. There is NO CLEAR DIFFERENCE in
their FEELINGS and ATTITUDES toward coitus (Rotkin,
Qunk, & Couchman, 1965).

Schmidt (1966) surveyed nearly 100 studies of
behaviorally induced DIS-EASE in animals CONFIRMING
and EXTENDING the DATA on PEOPLE. Behaviorally
induced DIS-EASES tend to fall into two groups;
(1) Hysteriform problems, which INCLUDE HYSTERICAL
SEIZURES and FORMS of AGGRESSION as well as
collective panic and epilepsies;

(2) organic modifications, including functional
difficulties and lesions affecting gastro intestinal,
cardio vascular, respiratory, sexual, endocrine, skin,
urinary, and neuro muscular systems.

It is INTERESTING, and SLIGHTLY HORRIFYING,
to note that the ONLY SCIENTIFIC RELEVANCE of
the standard six hour school day that I have been
able to detect in research is that Sawrey and Weisz
quite by accident found that six hours on and six
hour off of "EXECUTIVE  BEHAVIOR" in monkeys was
the ONLY TIME STRUCTURE that INDUCED DEATH PRODUCING
ULCERS.

----- Original Message -----
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D."

<drv...@mindspring.com>
To: <pdd-aspy...@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:31 AM
Subject: How does diagnosis shape treatment?

How does diagnosis shape treatment?

Nearly every week I have a visit from Jerry Howe, who
publicizes himself as The Puppy Wizard.  Jerry is a
master at behavioral modification of dogs.

His fundamental bedrock is the work Pavlov's last student, the late Sam

Corson, Ph.D., did at the U
of Ohio (at Oxford,O).

Sam always pointed out if the dog stopped working for
you in the lab, Pavlov and he always took the dog away
from the lab, and put him in a loving home and gave him
TLC for a couple of months, and then started, very
carefully, over again.

Jerry believes that reward and constraint focused training is immoral.
I've watched him in one short
session calm impossible dogs, just about to be murdered
(oops "put to sleep") because of their "incorrigibly"
violent behavior.

Sam was one of the first people to apply amphetamine to
hyperactivity (he searched the Middle West for yperactive
dogs); but he never lost sight of the fundamental reality
that a dog is not a human, but does respond, doggily, to
dog love.

You might be surprised to go to B. F. Skinner's
"Cumulative Record" and read the essay by Breland
and Breland, "The Misbehavior of Organisms".

Animals cannot be successfully trained unless the
trainer attends to the evolutionary history, the individual's
developmental history, and the environmental
niche of the animal being trained.

Yep, right there in Skinner's last and summary book.
Even with behavior mod, you must know the animal.

Dogs or little boys, you have to know the individual history, and the
nature of he disorder.

Dr. Von

PS if you are interested in dogs, then take a
look at Jerry's work, ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net

        From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)

    The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is a logically
consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically consistent
manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is not a bag of
tricks but a complete and integrated system for not only training a dog

but for raising a loving
companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leadership exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not. It is a
logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas
based upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry wears

his heart upon his sleeve. It
touches him deeply when he hears of trainers forcing,
intimidating, scolding or hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows  that force is not effective
and that it will certainly  lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe  that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control their dog by

force. Jerry knows this too.
We have all been at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?). --Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry M Male" <larrymm...@yahoo.com
To: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Cocker with ear infection

Thanks Jerry,

I enjoyed the scientific discussion debunking
operant conditioning for teaching thinking animals.
Humans think by forming concepts. All of their
knowledge is held as a hierarchy of concepts
(more complex concepts defined in terms of
simpler ones). In my mind, to treat such a being
as a B. F. Skinner robot is criminal.

I don't believe that dogs hold their knowledge
as concepts as do humans but their ability to
think is unquestionable.

Operantconditioning doesn't utilize an animal's
ability to think. When you show a dog what you
want them to do, then they are able to grasp the
problem; they are able to think about it and to
integrate possible solutions into their mind.

But with operant conditioning a trainer is actually
hiding the problem to be solved from the animal.

For example, it is good for your dog's attention to
be upon you. When heeling, he will notice your
movements, your subtle hand signals, your facial
expressions and he will immediately sense your
next command. But the clicker trainers have forgotten
the reasons why a dog's attention should be upon you.

So they condition a dog to unnaturally cock his head
to stare upward at you. The dog doesn't appreciate
the meaning of this and neither does the trainer. Since
this unnatural behavior is prized in the obedience ring,
the clicker trainers are motivated to condition it.

Don't you think that the "high five" hand shake that
clicker trainers use to motivate novices looks like a
Nazi salute (an unthinking reflex). It is not at all like
a warm hand shake from a loving companion, is it?

Some of your testimonials bring tears to my eyes. I
love to see how some "thinking" people appreciate
your methods.

--Larry

You can make flavoured water by adding a bit of canned cat food in the
water.
I add water to Rusty's prescription canned food.  This way I control how
much fluid he gets. He has a history of urinary blockages.

Winnie

Unfortunately, Mingy won't drink tuna water.  (Odd, huh?)  But if
there was some beverage that attracted him, I sure would buy it.