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Grief (partially OT) my husband died today

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ElvisRocks - 25 Feb 2005 21:43 GMT
After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
dead.
He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
kind
over the last couple weeks.  Carol
KellyH - 25 Feb 2005 21:59 GMT
> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
> dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being
> so kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol

Carol, this is awful!  I can't even begin to imagine what you are going
through.  Please take care of yourself.  You may want to look into a grief
counselor or support group.  This is a lot to take in such a short amount of
time.

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Brandy?Alexandre - 25 Feb 2005 21:59 GMT
ElvisRocks <elvisrocks1@comcast.net> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my
> husband dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for
> being so kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol

I am so, so sorry for your losses, especially coming so close together.    
It's not so common to invoke the Rainbow Bridge in the loss of a
spouse, but I hope there is some comfort that Elvis had someone come
pick him up so quickly.  Though I don't know how your husband felt
about Elvis, but I'm sure they'll keep each other company while they
wait.

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ceb - 25 Feb 2005 22:06 GMT
> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my
> husband dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for
> being so kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol

Oh no!! I am so sorry to hear this. Of course you are in shock, how
terrible!

I have had the experience of losing a dear pet and then a close family
member 2 days later, so I know a bit of how overwhelmed you must feel. The
grief will seem unbearable for a while but it will ease in time. For me the
most important things were leaning on friends and family, and getting
enough sleep (my dr gave me something to help with that). And just letting
myself feel everything I was feeling.

I am so sorry for your losses. You are in my thoughts.

--Catherine
-L. - 25 Feb 2005 22:15 GMT
> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
> dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all >for
being so
> kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol

Oh Carol, I am so sorry.  I hope you can find some peace in the days
and weeks to come.  FWIW, the folks at alt.support.grief can be really
nice in times like this, if you need someone to talk to, or just need
to write out some thoughts.

hugs,
-L.
Mary - 25 Feb 2005 23:15 GMT
> > After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my
> husband
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> nice in times like this, if you need someone to talk to, or just need
> to write out some thoughts.

Carol probably has friends in real life, freak.
teri - 26 Feb 2005 01:12 GMT
>> Oh Carol, I am so sorry.  I hope you can find some peace in the days
>> and weeks to come.  FWIW, the folks at alt.support.grief can be really
>> nice in times like this, if you need someone to talk to, or just need
>> to write out some thoughts.
>>
>Carol probably has friends in real life, freak.

But unfortunately friends usually don't get it, and don't want to hear
about your loss and how you feel, and they think you actually get over
it in weeks, or months, or even years.  But there, they do get it, and
you feel that.  And that means a lot.

Carol, I am sorry for your losses.
Teri
Mary - 26 Feb 2005 02:18 GMT
> >> Oh Carol, I am so sorry.  I hope you can find some peace in the days
> >> and weeks to come.  FWIW, the folks at alt.support.grief can be really
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Carol, I am sorry for your losses.
> Teri

Teri, I am sorry about your friends. That has not been my
experience with friends at all.
Meghan Noecker - 26 Feb 2005 05:08 GMT
>> But unfortunately friends usually don't get it, and don't want to hear
>> about your loss and how you feel, and they think you actually get over
>> it in weeks, or months, or even years.  But there, they do get it, and
>> you feel that.  And that means a lot.

>Teri, I am sorry about your friends. That has not been my
>experience with friends at all.

I've had mixed results. Some do seem to get it, but many do not.

Back when my first cat died, I came to work the next day miserable.
One of my co-workers, and a good friend, commented that at least I
didn't have a root canal (like she had gotten that morning). I was
stunned. How could a root canal be worse than losing my 19 year old
cat? I was only 22 at the time. This cat was there for me my whole
life, and especially the teenage years. She was my friend, babysitter,
counselor, nurse. confidante, etc.

Frankly, I found that losing my cats and dogs has been far more
traumatic than losing my grandmother. But I got a lot more sympathy
when she died.

A lot of people see pets as "just" animals. Disposable. Lose one? Get
another. Just replace it. No big deal.

So, those people simply cannot understand.

If we have friends who are also into animals, then great, they wil
support us. But even my friends with animals aren't into animals like
I am. The friend who made the comment I mentioned? She has a dog, and
she loves dogs. She's just not into cats. My best friend has a cat,
seriously overweight, and she won't do anything to work on the
problem. She thinks the cat is fine and cute.

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Karen - 26 Feb 2005 05:30 GMT
>>> But unfortunately friends usually don't get it, and don't want to hear
>>> about your loss and how you feel, and they think you actually get over
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> traumatic than losing my grandmother. But I got a lot more sympathy
> when she died.

I knew today would be hard going back to work and people would ask "How is
Grant?" It was. I kept breaking down. But it was because people were so
nice. One co-worker even came to me teary. When I came back after lunch,
thre was a gift sack at my desk and a card. They had gone and gotten me an
adorable garden cat holding a welcome sign. They just wanted me to feel
better. I received sympathetic emails. Now, none of these people are animal
people like me, but they knew how much Grant meant to me. They call my cats
my "kids" often because we actually have similar incidents happen, whether
cat or kid. I think of them more like my best buddies, especially Grant. I
think this is not necessarily what most people experience. And while I often
don't care for my job, the people are great and it makes being there
worthwhile.
Meghan Noecker - 26 Feb 2005 07:17 GMT
>I knew today would be hard going back to work and people would ask "How is
>Grant?" It was. I kept breaking down. But it was because people were so
>nice.

That is so good to hear. I did have a much better time woth people at
work when Jasper died. He was the badly injured stray I had taken in,
so everybody knew about him. So, when he died, everybody knew how
devastated I was. I actually had to carry a paper that said he died
because I would burst into tears and couldn't speak.

And over the years, I have gained a reputation for my love of animals.
Part of that is because I photograph animals as a small business, so I
bring new photos to share, and I sometimes work on prjects during my
lunch. So, they just accept that I am a bit obsessed.

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Brandy?Alexandre - 26 Feb 2005 07:25 GMT
Meghan Noecker <friesian@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

> And over the years, I have gained a reputation for my love of
> animals. Part of that is because I photograph animals as a small
> business, so I bring new photos to share, and I sometimes work on
> prjects during my lunch. So, they just accept that I am a bit
> obsessed.

This might be an odd thing to post at this time, but I remember
something I heard about a man's grief.  I don't remember where I heard
it, but the story goes that a peasant farmer lost both his wife and his
ox.  He grieved more for the ox, and when asked why he said, "I can
always get another wife, I cannot farm, I cannot live, without my ox."

I got Kami to replace a boyfriend, and other boyfriends have come and
gone when I might have actually chosen to give her up because they were
allergic or whatever.  Needless to say, Kami is still here and I
suspect I will grieve more for her than most anything.  She is my ox.

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Meghan Noecker - 26 Feb 2005 07:37 GMT
>I got Kami to replace a boyfriend, and other boyfriends have come and
>gone when I might have actually chosen to give her up because they were
>allergic or whatever.  Needless to say, Kami is still here and I
>suspect I will grieve more for her than most anything.  She is my ox.

It may seem strange, but when we get down to it, we spend more time
with our cats than we do with most humans. And it is more personal
time. I can tell me cats anything and trust them not to tell :)  So, I
can vent with them when I can't with other people. They spend their
time around me, and they sleep on the bed with me. So, I honestly
spend more time with them than I do with people. So, I am closer to
them.

And aside from my close family members like parents and siblings, I
have also spent more years with the animals than other humans.

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Mary - 26 Feb 2005 17:00 GMT
Brandy Alexandre wrote:
> Meghan Noecker <friesian@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote in
> rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> allergic or whatever.  Needless to say, Kami is still here and I
> suspect I will grieve more for her than most anything.  She is my ox.

Just the length of time you have had her means that it will be
very hard to lose her.
Priscilla Ballou - 26 Feb 2005 21:56 GMT
> I knew today would be hard going back to work and people would ask "How is
> Grant?" It was. I kept breaking down. But it was because people were so
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> don't care for my job, the people are great and it makes being there
> worthwhile.

My boss isn't a cat person, but her boss is.  When I had to put Ariel to
sleep 7 years ago, my "grand-boss" told me to take the next day off as
sympathy leave.  There are a number of us cat people at work, and people
frequently ask me how my "kids" are.  There are some who just don't get
it, but they have sufficient good manners to just not say anything and
quietly stay in their cubicles shaking their heads in mystification.  

Priscilla
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BuZZard - 27 Feb 2005 01:30 GMT
| > I knew today would be hard going back to work and people would ask "How is
| > Grant?" It was. I kept breaking down. But it was because people were so
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
|
| Priscilla

Oh for crying OUT LOUD!  This woman has lost her
dear
HUSBAND FOR f.cks SAKE AND you two carry on
like this is sunday f.cking DINNER!  K~RIST ON
CRUTCHES!
GIVE the LADY a FRIGGEN break... she won't want to
come
back in this thread and READ sh.t like this.. in
HER  GRIEF THREAD!
... AGAIN!!!.... FFS!.. at least do her the
justice of staying ONTOPIC....
son of a BITCH how cruel..
Have some cooth for f.cks sake.
ThePsyko - 27 Feb 2005 03:23 GMT
>| > I knew today would be hard going back to work
> and people would ask "How is
[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]
> son of a BITCH how cruel..
> Have some cooth for f.cks sake.

I used to have a maine cooth - big black hunting cat that liked to f.ck 
with baby coons and possums :)

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BuZZard - 27 Feb 2005 05:15 GMT
| > "Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in
| > message

news:vze23t8n-AA4BEB.16585926022005@news.verizon.net...

| >| > I knew today would be hard going back to work
| > and people would ask "How is
[quoted text clipped - 58 lines]
| I used to have a maine cooth - big black hunting cat that liked to f.ck
| with baby coons and possums :)

Finally.. an 'on-topic post'  .. where have you
been?
I was begining to think this
was
news:rec.pets.cats.grief.everday.no-matter.what
I am pro ontopic in this cat group.  These regs do
not
follow their own charter.

Oh wait.. let me guess.. your cooth cat prolly
died a horrible
death, and you want everyone to reply with "I am
so sorry" reply
right?
ThePsyko - 27 Feb 2005 16:54 GMT
>| On 26 Feb 2005 in alt.hackers.malicious,
> "BuZZard"
[quoted text clipped - 98 lines]
> so sorry" reply
> right?

No.  I ate him :)

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Yomamma Bin Crawdaddin - 27 Feb 2005 23:33 GMT
>>| On 26 Feb 2005 in alt.hackers.malicious,
>> "BuZZard"
[quoted text clipped - 100 lines]
>
>No.  I ate him :)

Did you marinate the fukker like I told you to?
:-)
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ThePsyko - 28 Feb 2005 16:58 GMT
>>>| On 26 Feb 2005 in alt.hackers.malicious,
>>> "BuZZard"
[quoted text clipped - 103 lines]
> Did you marinate the fukker like I told you to?
>:-)

I did.  Except I think the sauce had gone sour.  Either that or I
shouldn't have added the beer.

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Priscilla H. Ballou - 25 Feb 2005 22:15 GMT
> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
> dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
> kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol

Carol, I'm so terribly sorry!  Do you have good friends or family there
near you who can take you under their wing?  I can't begin to imagine
how difficult this must be.

Priscilla
Karen - 25 Feb 2005 22:15 GMT
Oh my dear lord I am so sorry. Please know that you will be in my prayers.

> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
> dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
> kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol
equalizer - 25 Feb 2005 22:28 GMT
>After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
>dead.
>He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
>Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
>kind
>over the last couple weeks.  Carol

I just don't know what to say, but I hope you find peace.
mlbriggs - 25 Feb 2005 22:57 GMT
> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
> dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
> kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol

Sincere sympathy  for your losses.  I knew several women this has happened
to --  it is really hard as they were young too.   My father died at 53
(a prolonged illness)  -- my brother died at 53 (an industrial accident)
and while sudden is shocking, the prolonged illness is worse.   Sympathy
also in the loss of your pet.  Purrs that time will heal your sadness.
Best wishes.   MLB
Mary - 25 Feb 2005 23:15 GMT
> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
> dead. He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
> kind over the last couple weeks.  Carol

Jesus, Carol. I don't even know what to say. Email me if you want
to talk. I've lost some people close to me over the years.
Cathy Friedmann - 25 Feb 2005 23:24 GMT
> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
> dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
> kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol

In shock may not even begin to cover it...  I have no clue what to say,
except...  my condolences to you, big-time.

Cathy
BuZZard - 25 Feb 2005 23:41 GMT
| After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
| dead.
| He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
| Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
| kind
| over the last couple weeks.  Carol

Oh good greif.
I.P.Freely - 25 Feb 2005 23:52 GMT
> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
> dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
> kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol

:doffs hat and bows head:
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Diane L. Schirf - 26 Feb 2005 01:39 GMT
> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
> dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
> kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol

I'm so sorry.

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apprehensive - 26 Feb 2005 05:08 GMT
>After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
>dead.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Please accept my heart felt condolences on the untimely death of your
husband. This poem by M.E.Frye was given to me by a friend a couple of years
ago when my father passed away and it helped me to find peace. While it can be
said that he had a good heart and quick mind, he also allowed alcohol to
become too familiar a friend. Peace & God bless, Thom's buddy.

Do Not Stand at My Grave and Weep
By Mary Elizabeth Frye
Do not stand at my grave and weep
I am not there. I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glints on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the gentle autumn rain.
When you awaken in the morning's hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry;
I am not there. I did not die.
Mary - 26 Feb 2005 06:06 GMT
> husband. This poem by M.E.Frye was given to me by a friend a couple of years
> ago when my father passed away and it helped me to find peace. While it can be
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Do not stand at my grave and cry;
> I am not there. I did not die.

I have always loved this piece. Thanks for the reminder.
Meghan Noecker - 26 Feb 2005 05:09 GMT
>After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
>dead.
>He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
>Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
>kind
>over the last couple weeks.  Carol

I am so sorry to hear this. I can't even begin to think of what to
say. I know it will be very hard for you, but I hope you can stay on
the groups and get the support you need during these hard times.

Do you have any other kitties to snuggle up with? I know it really
helped me when Fiona died. I could snuggle with Maynard and we grieved
together.

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Rhonda - 26 Feb 2005 09:04 GMT
Oh my gawd! I am so sorry. I can't even imagine what you are going through.

I lost my father in January, just weeks after I very nearly lost my
boyfriend (he had 3 surgeries in 3 weeks.) I am still dealing with
everything. I can't believe you lost Elvis, and now your husband. It can
be almost too much to bear.

Please take care of yourself. Lean on friends, family, and neighbors --
let them help you in any way they can. People like to help, and there
are times like this when we shouldn't be too proud to accept it.

After my experiences, I really believe most people are good at heart and
are willing to be there to get you through this. Don't be afraid to ask.

Will be thinking of you,

Rhonda

> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
> dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
> kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol
Mary - 26 Feb 2005 17:06 GMT
> Oh my gawd! I am so sorry. I can't even imagine what you are going through.
[...]

> After my experiences, I really believe most people are good at heart and
> are willing to be there to get you through this. Don't be afraid to ask.

Many people want to help but they don't know how so they avoid
the topic, leaving the grieving person feeling like nobody is
even acknowledging that the person was ever alive. Awkward as it
is, you just have to tell some people what you need. They want
to give it to you, and they will, but they are at a loss.
BuZZard - 26 Feb 2005 17:43 GMT
| > Oh my gawd! I am so sorry. I can't even imagine what you are going through.
| [...]
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| is, you just have to tell some people what you need. They want
| to give it to you, and they will, but they are at a loss.

Go away mary.. your sheep need tending.
Mary - 26 Feb 2005 17:49 GMT
> | > Oh my gawd! I am so sorry. I can't even
> imagine what you are going through.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Go away mary.. your sheep need tending.

I heard you were the one that liked sheep, Buzz.
.oO rach Oo. - 26 Feb 2005 13:17 GMT
You are in my thoughts. I have no idea as to what to say to you other than I
hope you stay with us. Virtual friends are good ones too.

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> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
> dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being
> so kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol
icedog - 01 Mar 2005 21:17 GMT
> You are in my thoughts. I have no idea as to what to say to you other than I
> hope you stay with us. Virtual friends are good ones too.
>
> --
> .oO rach Oo.

Thanks for bringing commonsense to the thread to offset
those who sneer without thinking. Whether losing an alcohol-loving spouse,
or a cat, it hurts. One must feel wretched. Humanity is too quick to
dismiss or condemn.
All I can say to O/P is "bury your cat, bury your husband,
remember the happy times,
grieve then move on. These things shall pass."

Icedog (UK)
BuZZard - 01 Mar 2005 21:36 GMT
| ".oO rach Oo." <reachin@anewrefutationoftimeandspace.com> wrote
in message

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| > You are in my thoughts. I have no idea as to what to say to you other than
| I
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| Thanks for bringing commonsense to the thread to offset
| those who sneer without thinking.

Ya MARY~!!!  FFS!!!
Jean B. - 27 Feb 2005 17:05 GMT
> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
> dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
> kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol

OMG!  That's horrible!  <<<<<<<<<<Carol>>>>>>>>>>

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Lesley Madigan - 02 Mar 2005 13:52 GMT
> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
> dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
> kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol

Carol- I can't think of anything to say except that of course you are in my prayers

Lesley
Marion - 02 Mar 2005 14:01 GMT
Carol, I'm so sorry.

When my 16-year-old Pushkin died two weeks after my Dad a couple of
years ago, I felt that every soul I loved was being taken from me.

The advice others have written here is good. Take all the love and care
you can from those who offer it. Try to remember the good times and
forget the times that were painful.

I'll ask for a prayer for you in church on Sunday.
Marion
ElvisRocks - 03 Mar 2005 13:37 GMT
Thanks all.  The funeral was yesterday.  I had been with him 21 years
(married 17) so despite the last couple bad years, obviously I still loved
him and had alot of happy memories.  I'm kinda scared now cause I haven't
started to grieve over losing my Elvis - he kinda got pushed to the side.
I have a ton of great friends.
I'm sorry for your losses.  It seems overwhelming especially when things
come in bunches like this, as it did for you.
Thank you for your prayers.  Carol

> Carol, I'm so sorry.
>
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> I'll ask for a prayer for you in church on Sunday.
> Marion
Mary - 03 Mar 2005 18:06 GMT
> Thanks all.  The funeral was yesterday.  I had been with him 21 years
> (married 17) so despite the last couple bad years, obviously I still loved
> him and had alot of happy memories.  I'm kinda scared now cause I haven't
> started to grieve over losing my Elvis - he kinda got pushed to the side.
> I have a ton of great friends.

This last is good because you are probably more fragile now than you have
ever been. I believe your good friends and family members will be better for
you than strangers in a support group could ever be--but there is room for
anything that makes you feel better... Anything at all.
svendlho@aol.com - 03 Mar 2005 16:19 GMT
> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my husband
> dead.
> He had heart problems and was a drinker but he was only 53.
> Please keep me in your prayers.  I am in shock.  Thank you all for being so
> kind
> over the last couple weeks.  Carol

I'm terribly sorry for you.

This may sound trivial, but you need to get another cat. They are great
stress releivers, and will go a long way to help you smile again.

Carl in CT
ElvisRocks - 03 Mar 2005 18:42 GMT
No, not trivial at all!!!  My remaining cat is all stressed out; first his
brother disappears, then his Dad!!!
I plan on getting THREE more cats, in fact!
I have to take Randi for his shots update & then I'll be all set to
officially be a "cat lady"!!!

>> After losing elvis on Tuesday, I woke up this morning to find my
> husband
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>
> Carl in CT
Priscilla H. Ballou - 03 Mar 2005 19:06 GMT
> No, not trivial at all!!!  My remaining cat is all stressed out; first his
> brother disappears, then his Dad!!!
> I plan on getting THREE more cats, in fact!
> I have to take Randi for his shots update & then I'll be all set to
> officially be a "cat lady"!!!

You go, girl!  But any particular reason why you're going to add three?
Are there three specific cats who need homes?  I'm wondering if adding
one at a time might be easier on your remaining kitty.  Bringing in
three (who, if they're from the same place, might have a preexisting
relationship) might feel to him as if he were being ganged up on, or invaded.

My suggestion... spread out the fun of bringing in a new kitty.  Add 'em
in one at a time, or add one or two and wait to see if the universe
sends another your way.

That's just how I'd do it, but you may be way different from me.  :-)

Priscilla, cat lady with four
ElvisRocks - 04 Mar 2005 14:21 GMT
I used to always have 3 or 4 cats.  I like having that many. My husband
flipped out every time I mentioned getting anymore and then with Elvis being
sick, I knew it would break his heart.  (Elvis, not my husband)
After what I went through with Elvis (thinking he was younger than he was) I
am inclined to get kittens, so I think Randi will be less intimidated by
babies.  When I got Randi at 9 weeks old, Elvis was mad at me for a day and
then he mothered Randi.  He would give him baths & stuff.  it was so damn
cute.
My vet has some cats for adoption so whenI take Randi I will see what he's
got.
I just have it in my  head I want 4.   I've been looking on petfinder.org,
too.  That's where I found Randi.

>> No, not trivial at all!!!  My remaining cat is all stressed out; first
>> his
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>
> Priscilla, cat lady with four
Priscilla H. Ballou - 04 Mar 2005 17:57 GMT
> I used to always have 3 or 4 cats.  I like having that many. My husband
> flipped out every time I mentioned getting anymore and then with Elvis being
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> I just have it in my  head I want 4.   I've been looking on petfinder.org,
> too.  That's where I found Randi.

I had decided my house was the perfect size for three cats, and then
Francis was thrust into my hands, and we fell in love.  Four cats is
great.  Good luck in finding your new three!

Priscilla
Bandwidth - 04 Mar 2005 20:31 GMT
Get a Male and Female and let nature take is course.  That way you will have
a little family like I did.  It's really great to watch them grow from
babies and to see how they intereact just like family does.  After one
litter have them fixed.  They say it's better for the female to have a least
one.   Just a sugestion.  It was so cute how Smokey would watch the babies
if Patches has her things to do ( eat, litter box,etc.)  The kittens have
the traits of both then.

> I used to always have 3 or 4 cats.  I like having that many. My husband
> flipped out every time I mentioned getting anymore and then with Elvis being
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> >
> > Priscilla, cat lady with four
ElvisRocks - 04 Mar 2005 20:59 GMT
You can't even get an animal from a shelter that isn't fixed anyway.
Not in New Jersey.  They fix them at 8/9 weeks.  The shelters or Petsmart,
etc.
have them fixed before you get them.

> Get a Male and Female and let nature take is course.  That way you will
> have
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>> >
>> > Priscilla, cat lady with four
Bandwidth - 04 Mar 2005 21:26 GMT
It was just an idea.

> You can't even get an animal from a shelter that isn't fixed anyway.
> Not in New Jersey.  They fix them at 8/9 weeks.  The shelters or Petsmart,
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> >> >
> >> > Priscilla, cat lady with four
Mary - 04 Mar 2005 23:30 GMT
> It was just an idea.

I have these at times. As long as you don't indulge the bad
ones, no foul.
Cathy Friedmann - 04 Mar 2005 21:26 GMT
> Get a Male and Female and let nature take is course.  That way you will have
> a little family like I did.  It's really great to watch them grow from
> babies and to see how they intereact just like family does.  After one
> litter have them fixed.  They say it's better for the female to have a least
> one.

If you read updated books, and ask around at different vets & shelters, I
don't think you're going to find too many "they"s suggesting this anymore.

While it's true that kittens are adorable & it's fun/interesting to watch a
mother cat interact w/ her kittens, it's also not terribly responsible
considering how many cats & kittens are waiting in shelters for adoption,
many of whom are euthanized when there's an overflow.  Never mind the
medical aspects.

Cathy

 Just a sugestion.  It was so cute how Smokey would watch the babies
> if Patches has her things to do ( eat, litter box,etc.)  The kittens have
> the traits of both then.
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> > >
> > > Priscilla, cat lady with four
svendlho@aol.com - 03 Mar 2005 19:29 GMT
> No, not trivial at all!!!  My remaining cat is all stressed out; first his
> brother disappears, then his Dad!!!
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> >
> > Carl in CT

I gotta tell ya, and I realize this in no way compares to what your
going through, but my wife was recently diagnosed with breast cancer.
We have been going through all kinds of testing, scans, X-Rays, MRIs,
and three minor surgical biopsies to date, with more ahead. We caught
it very early, and it looks like it will be completely treatable.
However, it is still a bombshell to try and take in. My wife and I are
fairly easy going people to begin with, but having cats seems to take
the stress out of any situation. You always hear that cat owners have
less stress, I can testify that it's true. They are a wonderful
spiritual and emotional tonic. Even when they do knock over and break
the brand new expensive centerpeice on the dining room table.

Carl
 
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