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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / February 2005a few purrs for jasper?
My Jasper seems to be out of sorts. I'll be keeping a close eye on him between tonight and tomorrow after work. Maybe he is just feeling tired and old, but he didn't eat dinner tonight and has spent the entire evening next to the radiator (warm spot!). If he doesnt spark back up we'll be taking him to a vet tomorrow! G'nite you crazies. Nice drama on the NG, btw! ;-) peace, pam > My Jasper seems to be out of sorts. I'll be keeping a close eye on him > between tonight and tomorrow after work. Maybe he is just feeling tired [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > peace, > pam Purrs. It is such a worry when they don't eat. Keep us posted. > My Jasper seems to be out of sorts. I'll be keeping a close eye on him > between tonight and tomorrow after work. Maybe he is just feeling tired > and old, but he didn't eat dinner tonight and has spent the entire > evening next to the radiator (warm spot!). Jasper doesn't look old. How old is he? With that lovely coat I thought he was fairly young. Maybe he just has a little cold. You don't think he got into any houseplants, do you? > If he doesnt spark back up we'll be taking him to a vet tomorrow! Of course you will. I'll keep you both in my thoughts. > G'nite you crazies. Nice drama on the NG, btw! ;-) It has been fun, hasn't it? 8) > peace, > pam > Jasper doesn't look old. How old is he? With that lovely coat > I thought he was fairly young. Maybe he just has a little cold. > You don't think he got into any houseplants, do you? We arent even sure...the guesstimate was between 8-12 when we first got him and the vet guessed closer to the 12...if not older. So no, he isnt extremely old, but I'm guessing that since he was with old ladies who were ill before, he probably did not receive the best care in the world...and I think this has aged him quite a bit. :( Ugh. I am sick too and I just woke up in a fit of sneezes. I went to check on Jasper and he is still in the same old spot...right in front of the radiator and still hasn't eaten a thing. :(:(:( Poor baby. I wish they could talk. > > Jasper doesn't look old. How old is he? With that lovely coat > > I thought he was fairly young. Maybe he just has a little cold. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the radiator and still hasn't eaten a thing. :(:(:( Poor baby. I wish > they could talk. Oh, I'm sorry. I hope you both feel better. Did he eat his breakfast? >>Ugh. I am sick too and I just woke up in a fit of sneezes. I went to >>check on Jasper and he is still in the same old spot...right in front of >>the radiator and still hasn't eaten a thing. :(:(:( Poor baby. I wish >>they could talk. > > Oh, I'm sorry. I hope you both feel better. Did he eat his breakfast? No breakfast and now he is at the vet. I didn't want to wait any longer so I called this morning (right after I called my own doctor about my own ailments ;-) ) and i brought him in. He has a fever...about 103.8 and they gave him some fluids and an antibiotic. He is resting at the vet's office and we are waiting to see if his temp comes down. He does have some bad periodontal disease and the vet said that could be the cause but not necessarily. The fever definitely explains why he hasn't eaten. I don't eat much when I'm sick either! So, if his temp comes down, he'll come home later with some antibiotics. They also drew some blood and are going to run a few tests. If the temp doesnt come down, they may do an x-ray. I don't know much of Jasper's history before he came to us in August, so we are kinda going in blind (no pun intended for my little blind kitty!) and I'm hoping for the best. I'm also going to call the former owner's daughter AGAIN and see if I can get at least the name of the vet clinic Jasper used to go to and see if I can track down his history. In the meantime, I just took some cold and sinus meds myself and plan to try and get some rest too! sick mommy and sick kitty...what a duo! Luna, on the other hand, is all excited...as I left the house with Jasper I could just see it in her eyes..."Are you finally getting rid of him?" Ha. Not so fast, little Luna. NOT SO FAST! :) pam "kitkat" <kitkatluna@aol.commie> wrote : > > Oh, I'm sorry. I hope you both feel better. Did he eat his breakfast? > > No breakfast and now he is at the vet. I didn't want to wait any longer > so I called this morning (right after I called my own doctor about my > own ailments ;-) ) and i brought him in. Tough that you're both sick at the same time. >He has a fever...about 103.8 God that seems really high. But I looked it up and it says that normal cat temperature is 101, so maybe not so bad. > and they gave him some fluids and an antibiotic. He is resting at the > vet's office and we are waiting to see if his temp comes down. He does [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > the name of the vet clinic Jasper used to go to and see if I can track > down his history. It is great that you have that resource. I sure would use it too. He is such a neat looking boy, his photos just stole my heart. > In the meantime, I just took some cold and sinus meds myself and plan to > try and get some rest too! I hope you feel better tonight. > sick mommy and sick kitty...what a duo! > Luna, on the other hand, is all excited...as I left the house with > Jasper I could just see it in her eyes..."Are you finally getting rid of > him?" Ha. Not so fast, little Luna. NOT SO FAST! :) Aren't they funny, Pam? They really are like children. >>sick mommy and sick kitty...what a duo! >>Luna, on the other hand, is all excited...as I left the house with >>Jasper I could just see it in her eyes..."Are you finally getting rid of >>him?" Ha. Not so fast, little Luna. NOT SO FAST! :) > > Aren't they funny, Pam? They really are like children. It's too funny. SHe has been camped out on my bed ever since I took Jasper to the vet. The vet did just call and the bloodwork is basically all normal. I forget which number she mentioned, but one was a tiny bit high...where the normal level (of whatever it was) is .09 and he was at 1.0 ....so not too terrible. She is now suspicious of some sort of GI situation...perhaps pancreatitis. So...if any of you out there have some experience with kitty pancreatitis...please feel free to share thoughts, experiences, or even advice as to what I might be wanting to ask the vet when she calls back a little later. I miss him already! :) Pam I hope he's okay. I know how upsetting it is. :( Carol > My Jasper seems to be out of sorts. I'll be keeping a close eye on him > between tonight and tomorrow after work. Maybe he is just feeling tired [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > peace, > pam Jasper is home and resting comfortably. I thought I would post the specific information I got from Jasper's discharge papers and see if you smart folks have any insights. Diagnosis & Problems: Suspected pancreatitis; often also involves intestinal and/or liver inflammation. Cause is unclear in cats. Signs are variable but in clude inappetance, lethargy, fever, abdominal pain and sometimes vomiting or diarrhea. Today jasper had a fever of 103.8 and abdominal pain, a slightly elevated bilirubin (can be seen in liver, pancreatic and intestinal disease) otherwise normal physical exam, bloodwork and x-rays. Feeding Instructions: Please feed Jasper whatever he is likely to eat...Friskies, cookied chicken, canned cat food,etc. Please avoid offering foods you know he is unlikely to eat. Medications: Amoxidrops-one dropper full (1 mL) orally once a day for 7 days. Start Saturday morning Predinsone-one tablet once a day for 7 days, then 1/2 tablet once a day for 7 days, then 1/2 every other day. Start these if not eating by Sunday a.m. Activity-restricted: Please keep Jasper in one room tonight or at least away from your other cat. This afternoon Jasper became very agitated when we tried to recheck his temperature and we were unable to perform any other treatments today. I'm not sure if he became agitated because of his visual and hearing impairments or because of the pain reliever we gave him (similar to codeine) or a combination of both. No treatments are required tonight. You may offer him food and water tonight. If he is not eating for you by Sunday morning, then start the Prednisone as well. And, since this information seems to be of such interest lately...the visit today was $229.75. Considering he had xrays, bloodwork, sub-q fluids, etc...I feel comfortable about the charges. Plus I was very happy in general with this vet clinic. It is a new one to me. Jasper was there when we first got him, but Luna had always gone to a different vet in Chicago when I was living in the city. Now that I am out of the city, I think it is time to bring her to a new vet. They got Jasper in right away and were very helpful/prompt/etc. I felt bad that Jasper went a little haywire on them and they couldn't even take his temperature. But as I said, he is home now and sleeping on the couch. I tried to give him a little chicken but he is not interested at all. I do hope he starts eating soon. I'd rather not have him on Prednisone if possible. I was also able to track down his old vet and records...which were not very exciting...which I see as a good thing. He was adopted by the previous owner at about 1.5 years of age and had all his shots and what not. However, the last time he was in for vet care before this past August was in 1998. The old lady was barely able to care for herself let alone the cats. This also explains his OBSESSION with people food. She fed him a lot of people food because for the past few years she was too ill to get up and around on her own. There was a caretaker that came and would feed the cats, but who knows how consistent that was. At any rate, no records of prior illness with Jasper, so this is his first bout. We also estimate that he is 13-14 years old. Thanks for reading this far. Pam > Jasper is home and resting comfortably. I thought I would post > the specific information I got from Jasper's discharge papers [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > to eat...Friskies, cookied chicken, canned cat food,etc. Please > avoid offering foods you know he is unlikely to eat. If pancreatitis is suspected, I've read that foods high in fat will irritate it. I read a lot about that when my cat Shadow was diagnosed with IBD. I hope he gets relief soon. In reference to what you wrote that I snipped (for brevity) prednisone does have its place and please don't discount it just because you're afraid.  SignatureCheryl > If pancreatitis is suspected, I've read that foods high in fat will > irritate it. I read a lot about that when my cat Shadow was > diagnosed with IBD. I wonder if it can cause it too. Sounds like Jaspers previous owner did a lot of table food feedings as I mentioned...including indulging him with stuff like KFC!!! > I hope he gets relief soon. In reference to what you wrote that I > snipped (for brevity) prednisone does have its place and please > don't discount it just because you're afraid. No worries and thanks for the advice. I will do as the vet tells me to do!!!! If it will help him, I *am* all for it. I am just hoping he starts eating on his own first. :) Thanks!! Pam > Jasper is home and resting comfortably. I thought I would post the > specific information I got from Jasper's discharge papers and see if you [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > pancreatic and intestinal disease) otherwise normal physical exam, > bloodwork and x-rays. Oh, poor baby. It's a good thing you took him in, sick as you were. >[...]. I was > also able to track down his old vet and records...which were not very > exciting...which I see as a good thing. That is just great! Good work. He was adopted by the previous > owner at about 1.5 years of age and had all his shots and what not. > However, the last time he was in for vet care before this past August [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Thanks for reading this far. Pam, does the vet think he can make a complete recovery? Or do you have to see how it goes? >>Jasper is home and resting comfortably. I thought I would post the >>specific information I got from Jasper's discharge papers and see if you [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Pam, does the vet think he can make a complete recovery? Or do > you have to see how it goes? I'm not sure I guess. Perhaps that is a question I need to ask straight out. She seemed to think that the course of action we are taking could help him spring back. But what I dont know (and maybe she doesnt either) is if this will be a chronic problem. He is still lethargic and hasn't eaten...but is responsive to petting and purring like a motor. That is promising because yesterday and this morning, we couldnt even get a purr out of him. :( >> Pam, does the vet think he can make a complete recovery? Or do >> you have to see how it goes? I>'m not sure I guess. Perhaps that is a question I need to ask straight >out. She seemed to think that the course of action we are taking could >help him spring back. But what I dont know (and maybe she doesnt either) >is if this will be a chronic problem. It could be that she can't tell until she sees how he does for a while. At least he is not too terribly old. And he looks so healthy. And he has you to take care of him. >He is still lethargic and hasn't eaten...but is responsive to petting >and purring like a motor. That is promising because yesterday and this >morning, we couldnt even get a purr out of him. :( Poor baby boy. It's a tough time for you both. I hope that the amoxidrops really help and Jasper gets to eating. It is SUCH a worry. > I hope that the amoxidrops really help and Jasper gets to eating. It is SUCH > a worry. Thanks, Karen. Me too! And frankly, I am really glad to have this ng to turn to...even if it has been a flame-fest lately. Many of you have so much knowledge to share and most of all you all care about cats. This helps *me* tremendously! :) Pam Oh wow, pancreatitus. Hope this was a one-time thing. We also had a cat with pancreatitus, his was diagnosed by ultrasound at an internist vet. His bouts always started with him curled in a ball, feeling like heck, even yelled when we would try to pick him up. It was pretty painful for him. He also would get a high fever, and sometimes would throw up multiple times at the start of an episode. The internist vet told us that most often with cats, IBD or food allergies are the culprit. One thing leads to another. Our cat started with diabetes 6 months prior, and that could have been a factor -- the vet said it's impossible to tell if the chicken or egg came first. With dogs, the problem is normally fat in the foods, with cats, it's usually a food allergy/intolerance issue. The internist also said the best way to get through a pancreatitus event for humans and dogs is to fast, which rests the pancreas. Since you can't do that with cats because of fatty liver disease, you have to just give them supportive care through the worst of it. Bob was put on a novel protein diet -- foods with one unique protein and one starch only. It is a food allergy diet with fewer ingredients and preservatives. That REALLY helped him. He was on IVD, a prescription brand. We also used Petsmart's prescription brand for quite awhile, Waltham. (That was maddening at times, they didn't always have it stocked.) Also, our cat became a finicky eater, and he was a vacuum cleaner before that. The internist said cats develop food aversions when they get sick. They blame the food, then never want to eat that kind again. We had some challenges switching flavors every now and then to get Bob eating. Good luck with your kitty. Our vet did say that once they have pancreatitus, there is a chemical change in the lining of the pancreas which predisposes them to more episodes. Bob did go a whole year without a major attack, and he was a happy cat. Take care, Rhonda > Diagnosis & Problems: Suspected pancreatitis; often also involves > intestinal and/or liver inflammation. Cause is unclear in cats. Signs [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > pancreatic and intestinal disease) otherwise normal physical exam, > bloodwork and x-rays. > Oh wow, pancreatitus. Hope this was a one-time thing. You and me both! (Jasper, too, I'd imagine. Come to think of it, my husband probably hopes it was a one-time thing, too.) :) > We also had a cat with pancreatitus, his was diagnosed by ultrasound at > an internist vet. His bouts always started with him curled in a ball, > feeling like heck, even yelled when we would try to pick him up. It was > pretty painful for him. He also would get a high fever, and sometimes > would throw up multiple times at the start of an episode. This basically sounds like what happened to Jasper. > Good luck with your kitty. Our vet did say that once they have > pancreatitus, there is a chemical change in the lining of the pancreas > which predisposes them to more episodes. Bob did go a whole year without > a major attack, and he was a happy cat.< I can handle this, even if it is a chronic thing. I just wonder how fair itis to Jasper. Obviously, I have no way of knowing how much pain he feels and I don't know how miserable he truly is. I have to believe that the purring when we pet him is him being happy and feeling more relaxed. We just gave him his first dropper of amoxidrops. Well, about a half a dropper. We'll give him the other half later because he was definitely fighting us. But Tim (my hub) fed him some turkey (lunch meat stylie) and he gobbled it up. Yay! At least he is showing some interest in eating and maybe later we can get him to eat some cooked chicken or even real cat food. fingers crossed, Pam
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