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beeswing - 16 Feb 2005 16:27 GMT
I've been told that a young cat I've been interested in adopting had
ringworm at one point but is now cured of it. The shelter, however,
would want me to sign a waiver that if the ringworm got spread from the
cat, they wouldn't be held libel.

Is there any sure way to find out if the cat still carries the ringworm
before bringing in into my house? I don't want to put my other cats (or
my family) at risk...no matter how much I like this kitty.

Thanks.

beeswing
-L. - 16 Feb 2005 16:33 GMT
> I've been told that a young cat I've been interested in adopting had
> ringworm at one point but is now cured of it. The shelter, however,
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>
> beeswing

Nope.  What you can do is put the cat on a regimen of Program which
will keep the ringworm at bay, if the cat is indeed, a chronic carrier.

-L.
tracyrose@gmail.com - 16 Feb 2005 18:19 GMT
"Nope.  What you can do is put the cat on a regimen of Program which
will keep the ringworm at bay, if the cat is indeed, a chronic
carrier."

Ringworm is actually pretty common at shelters. I wouldn't be inclined
to assume that the cat is "a chronic carrier" because of one bout at a
shelter. If it's been more than a month with no relapse, then I'd be
pretty confident that you're out of the woods. If it's a shorter time,
then the medication is probably a good precaution.
KellyH - 16 Feb 2005 18:37 GMT
> Ringworm is actually pretty common at shelters. I wouldn't be inclined
> to assume that the cat is "a chronic carrier" because of one bout at a
> shelter. If it's been more than a month with no relapse, then I'd be
> pretty confident that you're out of the woods. If it's a shorter time,
> then the medication is probably a good precaution.

Ask the shelter if they had another culture taken once the ringworm cleared
up.  If they did and it was negative, I would feel confident bringing the
cat home.  They probably have the waiver just to cover their butts.  Be glad
that this is a place where they treat for ringworm.  That cat would be dead
at many other shelters.

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BarB - 20 Feb 2005 01:48 GMT
>> Ringworm is actually pretty common at shelters. I wouldn't be inclined
>> to assume that the cat is "a chronic carrier" because of one bout at a
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>that this is a place where they treat for ringworm.  That cat would be dead
>at many other shelters.

I doubt if the shelter did a followup culture for ringworm. That is
an expense they probably can't afford. I will hold a kitten until
there are no visible signs but we don't culture. Mostly we tell
people if the cat had ringworm and recommend continuing Program. I
usually give kittens Program anyway when they come to me. My vet has
described it as the kitten chicken pox. Most get it and get over it
quickly. Adults are frequently immune.

BarB
KellyH - 20 Feb 2005 20:12 GMT
> I doubt if the shelter did a followup culture for ringworm. That is
> an expense they probably can't afford. I will hold a kitten until
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> described it as the kitten chicken pox. Most get it and get over it
> quickly. Adults are frequently immune.

I think our shelter is a lot more paranoid about ringworm than others.  The
kittens that had ringworm were taken out of the shelter and put into foster
care.  Once they finished their course of medicine, which was the liquid
that starts with a "g", I can never remember the name, they were cultured
again and the vet wants the culture to grow out for three weeks before they
can come back to the shelter.
Also, we threw away the scratching posts in the kitten room, completely
bleached down the cages and the whole room, repainted, and are installing
new vinyl floor.

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"Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG

-L. - 18 Feb 2005 06:30 GMT
> "Nope.  What you can do is put the cat on a regimen of Program which
> will keep the ringworm at bay, if the cat is indeed, a chronic
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> to assume that the cat is "a chronic carrier" because of one bout at a
> shelter.

Agreed - but if the OP is concerned about an outbreak in the new home,
Program will prevent it.

If it's been more than a month with no relapse, then I'd be
> pretty confident that you're out of the woods. If it's a shorter time,
> then the medication is probably a good precaution.

Chronic carriers can go months without a flare-up and then BAM!
another outbreak.  I was involved in a study of a group of Persians who
were chronic carriers.  Horrible situation.

-L.
beeswing - 18 Feb 2005 15:34 GMT
> Chronic carriers can go months without a flare-up and then BAM!
> another outbreak.  I was involved in a study of a group of Persians who
> were chronic carriers.  Horrible situation.
>
> -L.

If the adopted kitty has a culture that says she's clear of ringworm,
can she still be a "chronic carrier" or might that rule that out?

I'm planning to talk to our vet about this, too, on Saturday; one of my
other cats is going in for his appointment.

Thanks.

beeswing
Jim Lawton - 18 Feb 2005 16:10 GMT
>> Chronic carriers can go months without a flare-up and then BAM!
>> another outbreak.  I was involved in a study of a group of Persians
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>I'm planning to talk to our vet about this, too, on Saturday; one of my
>other cats is going in for his appointment.

Ringworm isn't the plague - there are obviously different kinds as well, since
some people here describe a runaway contagious infection that's hard to
irradicate, and others a mild infection that clears up at the first attempt.

If the cat has a clear culture, and your other cats are healthy, then I'd think
it was OK. You'll be keeping new kitty separate for a bit anyway.

We have a longish haired female and a short haired tom. Girl was positive for
ringworm, and on medication, had a few scabby patches, neither boy nor us had
any symptoms. Girl now clear apparently, rest of us unaffected :-)

As you say talk to your vet, but that cat needs a home  :-)

Jim


beeswing - 20 Feb 2005 05:08 GMT
> As you say talk to your vet, but that cat needs a home  :-)

One of my two current kitties has been licking till his fur is off a
lot of his belly and in other patches...the vet first suspected a flea
allergy, but now wonders if it might be behavioral (for a number of
reasons). I had my kitty in at the vets being looked at today and we're
trying an Elizabethan collar. Poor kitty! While I was there, I asked
the vet about the shelter cat. Regarding the ringworm, he basically
thought if the cat hadn't had an outbreak for a long time (and I don't
know how long it's been without going back to the shelter and asking),
it was probably fairly safe; HOWEVER, if we did get ringworm in the
house, it could be very difficult to get rid off (with two cats and a
daughter, I'm not willing to risk that). And if my cat's licking
problems (and his litter box issues, a whole nuther story) *are*
beharvioral, then getting another cat could just make it worse. I can't
do that to my cat.

So -- responsibly speaking, I can't take in the other cat. I feel sad
about it, but I'm spending some nice one-on-one time tonight with my
poor, collared kitty and it's making up for a lot of it. I hope the
other cat finds a nice home. It's a no-kill shelter, so it's almost
guaranteed that she eventually will.

Thanks, everyone, for all the advice.

beeswing
Iain Halder - 19 Feb 2005 02:57 GMT
>Chronic carriers can go months without a flare-up and then BAM!
>another outbreak.  I was involved in a study of a group of Persians who
>were chronic carriers.  Horrible situation.

How did this study resolve? Where there any useful conclusions?

One of my rescue-cats had ringworm when we got her but we resolved the
situation fairly quickly by taking her to the vet, getting the special
shampoo bath done for her and then just dabbing each individual
ringworm spot on her body every day with the pure shampoo until the
ringworm eventually cleared.

It has never come back to her and her fur is perfect and the ringworm
never spread to any of the other cats.

For us it was a short-term problem but I was always curious how we'd
have coped if the worm had spread to the others and resulted in
frequent outbreaks as you describe.

On another separate issue we have frequent outbreaks of eye-infection
among our three but they are always resolved quickly - within days -
by using L-Lysine.

Iain.H
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