Vet has said I will have to sign 'waiver' for Ethel to have the second
spay surgery. And (through the volunteer) I've been advised of all
the 'difficulties' and possible complications, even death.
The Vet say she'll 'do her best', but it's a difficult surgery and
given kittens history/health (viral respiratory infection and
secondary bacterial infections since birth, poor immune system, small
for age), it's VERY risky.
Has anyone else been through this??? A cat needing a second 'spay'???
And if she makes it through (I pray!), what can I expect afterwards???
The volunteer will return her to me that evening. (The first time
around I had Lucy & Ethel done at the same time, it was difficult and
stressfully to take care of them.)
She's asleep in my arms as I type this...
Mary - 13 Feb 2005 20:28 GMT
> Vet has said I will have to sign 'waiver' for Ethel to have the second
> spay surgery. And (through the volunteer) I've been advised of all
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>
> She's asleep in my arms as I type this...
Has your vet told you why a second spay is necessary?
Presumably if she did it right the first time, the second spay would not
be necessary. I have crossposted this to alt.med.veterinary to see
what the vets have to say. (If Ethel might die, I might not even
have the second spay, depending on whether she will continue
to go into heat or not.)
Diane L. Schirf - 13 Feb 2005 20:55 GMT
> Vet has said I will have to sign 'waiver' for Ethel to have the second
> spay surgery. And (through the volunteer) I've been advised of all
> the 'difficulties' and possible complications, even death.
When I had my biopsy where the ENT had to take a piece out from behind
my nose, I had to sign all kinds of things that said potential
complications included coma and death. Not things a nearly naked woman
attached to a saline IV wants to think deeply about. Any surgery
involving anesthesia carries that risk, although it's not that likely.
Just scary.
I'm sorry I missed something -- why does the cat need a "second spay"?

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pah41071@yahoo.com - 13 Feb 2005 21:01 GMT
> Has anyone else been through this??? A cat needing a second 'spay'???
I just had a cat go through a second spay. She was spayed last June. I
only realized last month that her insistence on going outside all
summer (she actually tore through my screens) was related to her
regular estrus cycle. She was fine/quiet October-December, so when she
insisted on outdoor trips in January it finally clicked for me. She was
respayed in mid January. As this is a major surgery, she was put on
antibiotics prophylactically for seven days post-surgery and my vet
insisted on her wearing an e-collar for a full two weeks, both intended
to minimize the risk of infection. Yes, they hate the e-collar, but
I've dealt with a cat with post-surgery peritonitis before, and that is
much worse than dealing with a bad mood! Also be sure to check the
surture area for swelling/oozing daily. Good luck - my kitty is doing
just fine.
spondee@cox.net - 14 Feb 2005 04:43 GMT
>> Has anyone else been through this??? A cat needing a second
>'spay'???
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>surture area for swelling/oozing daily. Good luck - my kitty is doing
>just fine.
Uh, what is an e-collar???
jmc - 14 Feb 2005 10:41 GMT
>>>Has anyone else been through this??? A cat needing a second
>>
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> Uh, what is an e-collar???
Elizabethan Collar. Cone-shaped collar that keeps them from reaching
their head around to their body.
FYI, if you get an e-collar, get a clear one. Meep had to wear one for
3 weeks once, she had a really hard time getting around with the usual
opaque version (which is what the vet gave us). We picked a clear one
up at PetsMart, made a big difference.
jmc
Karen Chuplis - 13 Feb 2005 21:08 GMT
> Vet has said I will have to sign 'waiver' for Ethel to have the second
> spay surgery. And (through the volunteer) I've been advised of all
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>
> She's asleep in my arms as I type this...
I honestly think that they are just trying to be super specific that they
aren't responsible. You have said that the cat is acting normal now except
for the heat. Every surgery has its risks. I just think that they are
covering their butts.
spondee@cox.net - 14 Feb 2005 04:42 GMT
>I honestly think that they are just trying to be super specific that they
>aren't responsible. You have said that the cat is acting normal now except
>for the heat. Every surgery has its risks. I just think that they are
>covering their butts.
Especially as they KNOW, have been told etc. How poorly she tolerated
the anesthetic the first time! (Her sister did just fine!)
Phil P. - 13 Feb 2005 22:07 GMT
> Vet has said I will have to sign 'waiver' for Ethel to have the second
> spay surgery. And (through the volunteer) I've been advised of all
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>
> She's asleep in my arms as I type this...
You can reduce the risks substantially by asking the vet to use a gas
anesthetic instead of an injectible. In the event of an unforeseen
complication, the effects of the anesthetic can be quickly reversed. I'd
also request a rapid-acting/short-acting induction agent so the quick
recovery from the gas anesthetic isn't delayed by the induction agent.
I'd also demand pre-anesthetic blood work and a thorough examination to make
sure she's healthy enough to undergo anesthesia and surgery.
Since the second surgery is the result of the vet's fault, I think you have
the right to demand these safety precautions and they're obliged to honor
your demands.
Good luck.
Phil
spondee@cox.net - 14 Feb 2005 04:40 GMT
>You can reduce the risks substantially by asking the vet to use a gas
>anesthetic instead of an injectible. In the event of an unforeseen
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>the right to demand these safety precautions and they're obliged to honor
>your demands.
Thank you so much. I'll be on the phone w/clinic and vet this week!!!
Now at least I know what to ask for.
And no, vet is not charging for this procedure!
Elizabeth Blake - 14 Feb 2005 05:27 GMT
> Vet has said I will have to sign 'waiver' for Ethel to have the second
> spay surgery. And (through the volunteer) I've been advised of all
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>
> She's asleep in my arms as I type this...
My sister's cat, Peasy, was sort-of spayed twice. Peasy showed up outside
my sister's door one day and they started feeding her. Peasy was maybe 5-6
months old when she first showed up. After asking around, my sister found
out that she belonged to a nearby couple who split up and moved away,
leaving Peasy behind. When my sister decided to keep her she made an
appointment to have her spayed. The day of the surgery she called at the
check-up time and they informed her that Peasy had already been spayed.
They said they couldn't tell until they opened her up. My sister was
horrified and said that she could clearly see the original scar on her belly
where the vet had shaved her. She couldn't believe that they actually
opened her up again. Peasy came out of it okay but my sister was upset for
months.
--
Liz
Mary - 14 Feb 2005 18:27 GMT
> My sister's cat, Peasy, was sort-of spayed twice.
I remember lovely Peasy!! Have any new pictures?? :)