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Spayed Female in Heat!  Help!

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spondee@cox.net - 11 Feb 2005 22:40 GMT
I have two rescue cats, sister, now 10 months old.  They were spayed 4
months ago by the rescue group.

Now the smallest has gone into full estrus!!!

It's taken a few days for me to realize this (almost constant
crying!), but today there is no doubt.  She is lovey, seductive,
posturing before her sister, and has a slight vaginal discharge.

Has ANYONE heard of this???
KellyH - 11 Feb 2005 23:03 GMT
>I have two rescue cats, sister, now 10 months old.  They were spayed 4
> months ago by the rescue group.
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>
> Has ANYONE heard of this???

Take her to the vet to confirm that it is indeed heat.  I have heard of this
happening when a piece of ovary is left behind after a spay.

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Rrb - 12 Feb 2005 04:46 GMT
> I have two rescue cats, sister, now 10 months old.  They were spayed 4
> months ago by the rescue group.
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>
> Has ANYONE heard of this???

The vaginal discharge suggests an infection. It could be anything from
Cystitus to Pyometra (Which is life threatening). I suggest that she see
a vet ASAP as she most likely has a vaginal infection, and is crying
because she is in pain. The fact that it has been a few days probably
rules out anything really serious but I think she should see any vet
available or an emergency vet if you have one nearby.
spondee@cox.net - 12 Feb 2005 07:59 GMT
>The vaginal discharge suggests an infection. It could be anything from
>Cystitus to Pyometra (Which is life threatening). I suggest that she see
>a vet ASAP as she most likely has a vaginal infection, and is crying
>because she is in pain. The fact that it has been a few days probably
>rules out anything really serious but I think she should see any vet
>available or an emergency vet if you have one nearby.

Well, I hope it isn't THIS.  I am a disabled person in a wheelchair
with NO $$$.  (If you read orig. message it said that kittens were
spayed by the rescue organization.  It is Fri. night, It is storming
like crazy here.  And I have NO access to vet care of any type.  Nor
any help from anyone.  Even if I did have the $$$ for an emergency pet
clinic, I'd have no way to get there...

When I looked up this Pyometra, it seemed it happens in middle aged,
unspayed dogs.  The recommended treatment is being spayed!

This 10 month old kitten is otherwise healthy.  She is eating,
sleeping, drinking (no vomiting, etc).  No distended belly, and other
than the crying (which does stop for eating and sleeping) seems OK.
AND as of today, she has started 'posturing' ie scrunching down in a
'mating' position in front of her sister.  And the vag discharge is
very SCANT and non-odorous; I only saw it because I was looking.

I've put in two phone calls and two emails today to different folks at
the rescue group, hoping they will add her to the next spay clinic, as
well as find a volunteer to pick her up and bring her home.  No one
has responded.

I called the vet (mobile) I usually use for emergent situations, at
about $300 per visit, that I have to borrow; he wants no part of it,
said to contact whomever did the surgery (and I don't know who it
was!).

I am so upset and stressed out that I'm thinking of taking these cats
to the shelter (though I haven't been without a cat for 40 yrs, and I
love them) because of these health issues and the money involved.
(I've spent approx. $850 on vet care in the last 8 months; they came
with some kind of virulent viral infection that has caused all types
of secondary URI'S, eye infections, and have never been well enough to
even get their routine vaccines, two vets have told me they'll
eventually 'grow' out of it.  And it does seem to be improving.)  BUT,
I can not afford (financially or stress wise) these continued health
probs.

I also don't know how she could have ANY kind of infection as she's
been through 3 full rounds of amoxicillin and eye ointment in the last
eight months, the last ending about 3 weeks ago.  And they are totally
inside cats.  

Never in my life have I had cats w/these kinds of problems!  No more
rescue kittens for me!!!  And it's obviously unfair to them to not get
vet care if needed...

btw, she slept for over an hour, very comfortably, I might add, on my
lap this evening, no crying.  Now she's awake and crying (after having
a little snack!), but much less often, less intense (have you ever
been in a tiny 'efficiency' apartment with a screeching cat??? with
perhaps an ill cat that you can't do anything about???)
spondee@cox.net - 13 Feb 2005 05:13 GMT
>I have two rescue cats, sister, now 10 months old.  They were spayed 4
>months ago by the rescue group.
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>
>Has ANYONE heard of this???

A follow up-

I was able to find the phone number and talk to the volunteer that
transported my cat to get spayed.

SHE was able to get hold of the Vet that did the surgery.  And a
SECOND spay surgery has been scheduled for the end of this month by
the same vet, in the same clinic.

I realize that this is a dangerous surgery for this kitten.  But don't
see that there are any options...

Now could someone PLEASE tell me how long THIS estrus cycle is likely
to last???
Mary - 13 Feb 2005 05:19 GMT
> >I have two rescue cats, sister, now 10 months old.  They were spayed 4
> >months ago by the rescue group.
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> Now could someone PLEASE tell me how long THIS estrus cycle is likely
> to last???

How big is your place? Can't you put her in a room with her
box and toys and food and water, far from where you sleep?
Put a fan or Hepa filter near your bed to help drown out
her cries? Or is there something besides the noise bothering you?
spondee@cox.net - 13 Feb 2005 19:42 GMT
>How big is your place? Can't you put her in a room with her
>box and toys and food and water, far from where you sleep?
>Put a fan or Hepa filter near your bed to help drown out
>her cries? Or is there something besides the noise bothering you?

I live in a very small apartment.  I don't have a room to put her in.
I have tried twice to isolate her in the bathroom, but she got so
indignant that the howling increased by 100%; not to mention it
actually seemed to 'echo' in there.  LOL.  Plus then her sister got
really concerned.

I had to let her out as my neighbors would not tolerate such noise and
would be on the phone to the manager!

Other than the noise is the prob of her lying in the floor, posturing,
etc, IN FRONT OF MY WHEELCHAIR, and she WON'T MOVE!!!  And I mean, she
won't move!!!  (This is not her normal behavior.) Even a spritz of
water from a bottle won't budge her.  I either have to reach down and
grab her and physically move her, or stick out a foot and use it as a
gentle as I can, prod.  Makes 'getting around' more than a little
difficult.  Luckily, she will (unlike her sister), ride around on my
lap...

The yowling, posturing episodes seem to be getting further apart and
not lasting as long.  (I hope).  She slept all night last night, with
her sister, at the bottom of my bed.

Jeeze...
Diane L. Schirf - 13 Feb 2005 19:50 GMT
> >box and toys and food and water, far from where you sleep?
> >Put a fan or Hepa filter near your bed to help drown out
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> actually seemed to 'echo' in there.  LOL.  Plus then her sister got
> really concerned.

Are you the one has a cat in heat? Don't isolate her. We tried that with
Pudge when I lived in a shared apartment, and it does make it worse. (If
you were hormonal, being left alone might make you scream more, too. :)
I found that if I shut her in with me, she'd be much quieter. I guess my
human companionship was an adequate substitute.

She was spayed right after that. :)

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spondee@cox.net - 13 Feb 2005 20:01 GMT
>She was spayed right after that. :)

Ahh, yes!!!  She is scheduled for the 26th Feb..  For 2nd spaying!!!

And you are absolutely right, Isolating her DID make it worse!
Mary - 13 Feb 2005 20:24 GMT
> >How big is your place? Can't you put her in a room with her
> >box and toys and food and water, far from where you sleep?
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>
> Jeeze...

lol! They really are obnoxious, aren't they. You poor thing. Hope it
is over soon. You are guaranteed to adore the New Improved
GE Heatless Cat!
Rhonda - 14 Feb 2005 03:56 GMT
We had took in a pregnant stray, who went into heat about 6 weeks after
giving birth. The worst of it lasted about a week, but she was obviously
in heat at least the next week (just not as miserable.) When we took her
in for a spay the 3rd week, the vet said she was still in heat.

So, don't know how most last, but Maggie was at least 3 weeks.

Rhonda

> Now could someone PLEASE tell me how long THIS estrus cycle is likely
> to last???

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