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Michael Hensley - 10 Feb 2005 02:24 GMT
Hi, This is my first post please help or give any information. I have two
cats one male age 8 the other female age 3. Last Friday I noticed redness
in the male cat’s eye. Not sure if it was a scratch I watched it. I made an
appointment to the vet. The next day both eyes were red. Went to the vet
and he  said he is  blind. They ran in house test for blood pressure and to
see if it was related from kidney diseases and they came out ok. They sent
some blood to another place and will tell me something Friday. I am really
worried about what they will say on Friday. I know that there are a few
things that could be wrong with him.
My question is has anyone had this happen to their cat?  If it is something
that can be cured through surgery (Hyperthyroidism) how did you deal with
it? How can I make my cat more comfortable now he is blind? I love both of
my cats and what them to be happy. I never thought this could happen, but
now it has I want him to live the rest of his life as happy as possible.
Any help from people with cats that have gone through the same thing please
comment.
Thanks for reading this post.
Karen Chuplis - 10 Feb 2005 02:44 GMT
> Hi, This is my first post please help or give any information. I have two
> cats one male age 8 the other female age 3. Last Friday I noticed redness
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> comment.
> Thanks for reading this post.

I would sure get the BP tested again. It seems odd that it came on so
suddenly at a relatively  young age. I have not heard of blindess to
thyroidism but have heard of kidney problems masked by thyroid issues which
might include a BP problem. So sorry to hear about this. I hope there is
more input soon.
Michael Hensley - 10 Feb 2005 03:24 GMT
I thought the same. He tested the blood pressure a few times and the
results were 138, 143 and 152. They said that was about normal. This was
after the shaving and all the probing. I was there and he could hear my
voice so I thought that could have calmed him some. I thought it would have
been higher after the ordeal with the vet.
I don’t want to loose him because a vet missed something. Please feel free
to tell me anything so when I go back Friday I can say something they might
have missed
I am not lokking for answers just looking for help to make sure the vet
checks everything
Phil P. - 10 Feb 2005 11:00 GMT
Michael,

Go to the American College of  Veterinary Ophthalmologists' search page:

http://www.acvo.org/public/Publicdatabase.asp

Just type in your city and State to find a board certified veterinary
opthalmologist in your area.

Please hurry.

Phil
Karen Chuplis - 10 Feb 2005 12:15 GMT
> Michael,
>
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>
> Phil

Boy, I hope I never have the need. There isn't one within hours of here :(
Monique Y. Mudama - 10 Feb 2005 17:39 GMT
> Boy, I hope I never have the need. There isn't one within hours of here :(

Seems you should move to the front range.  I see 12 within about 2 hours of
me.

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MaryL - 10 Feb 2005 03:18 GMT
> Hi, This is my first post please help or give any information. I have two
> cats one male age 8 the other female age 3. Last Friday I noticed redness
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> comment.
> Thanks for reading this post.

I have a blind cat (Duffy, blind since birth).  If this turns out to be
permanent, I would be happy to send you some information through email.
*First,* though, it is vital for you to take immediate action to see if your
cat's vision can be salvaged.  I would recommend that you take your cat to a
feline ophthalmologist to get expert advice, preferably at a college of
veterinary medicine if one is located where you can make the trip.  You may
need to have your vet give you a referral, and it is important for him to
stress the urgency of the situation.  Otherwise, delay really could cost
your cat his sight on a permanent basis.

MaryL
Michael Hensley - 10 Feb 2005 03:30 GMT
They said afert 24 hours his vision was lost for goood. If I knew that he
would have been there when I saw the redness.
Here are the four possible things he gave me. 1 Hyperthyroidism, 2
Glaucoma, 3 Renal Disease and 4 high blood preasure. If ther is somethig I
sould ask him to check let me know. Thanks for the input
Cathy Friedmann - 10 Feb 2005 03:59 GMT
> They said afert 24 hours his vision was lost for goood. If I knew that he
> would have been there when I saw the redness.
> Here are the four possible things he gave me. 1 Hyperthyroidism, 2
> Glaucoma, 3 Renal Disease and 4 high blood preasure. If ther is somethig I
> sould ask him to check let me know. Thanks for the input

I don't know of the redness creates a caveat to this, but... if the retinas
detach, causing the blindness (say, due to high bp), the retinas *can*
reattach if medication is given relatively soon - ASAP, re: diagnosis.
Otoh, if left too long for them to reattach (given that this is the
scenario), then the cat will be permanently blind.

Cathy
Michael Hensley - 10 Feb 2005 03:32 GMT
Oh and please send me any info my email is Hawkeye13131@yahoo.com thanks
MaryL
Rhonda - 10 Feb 2005 03:52 GMT
Michael,

One of our cats went blind when she was about 17. Her condition was due
to cataracts, and there was no redness -- only cloudiness. I hope you
find out what is wrong with your guy.

Jabba adapted well as a blind cat. You do have to be consistent with
them, it's best if you do not change the furniture around, etc. Try to
keep new things out of the middle of the floor -- things that they may
bump in to. Also make sure he knows exactly where his food, water, and
litter box are, and that he can reach them easily.

Good luck with your guy, let us know what you find out.

Rhonda

> My question is has anyone had this happen to their cat?  If it is something
> that can be cured through surgery (Hyperthyroidism) how did you deal with
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> comment.
> Thanks for reading this post.
Meghan Noecker - 10 Feb 2005 07:59 GMT
>Jabba adapted well as a blind cat. You do have to be consistent with
>them, it's best if you do not change the furniture around, etc. Try to
>keep new things out of the middle of the floor -- things that they may
>bump in to. Also make sure he knows exactly where his food, water, and
>litter box are, and that he can reach them easily.

You can also use scent to mark certain things. Kind of like landmarks.
Just different perfumes or extracts like vanilla and mint. If you use
the same scent in certain locations, then it will be like a map.

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zuzu22@webtv.net - 10 Feb 2005 04:00 GMT
Michael,

Listen to Mary L's advice and get your cat  seen by a veterinary
opthamologist ASAP. When it comes to eye issues, your vet does not have
the kind of diagnostic equipment an opthamologist does, and there may be
something going on that is treatable and might result in your cat
regaining some vision. Don't make the mistake many people do and trust
your own vet to deal with this type of situation. Your cat needs to see
a *specialist* so the cause of his blindness can more quickly be
determined and he can be given appropriate treatment.

Megan  

                                   
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Meghan Noecker - 10 Feb 2005 08:02 GMT
>Listen to Mary L's advice and get your cat  seen by a veterinary
>opthamologist ASAP. When it comes to eye issues, your vet does not have
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>a *specialist* so the cause of his blindness can more quickly be
>determined and he can be given appropriate treatment.

I agree. When my dog was going blind, our vet couldn't give us any
certain information. He did give us a referreal to a canine
opthamologist. We went there, and the specialist was able to give us a
diagnosis in under 3 minutes. That was how different the experience
level was in this type of situation. It wasn't what we wanted to hear
(permenent with no possible treatment), but it told us what we needed
to know.

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Phil P. - 10 Feb 2005 10:55 GMT
> Hi, This is my first post please help or give any information. I have two
> cats one male age 8 the other female age 3. Last Friday I noticed redness
> in the male cat?s eye. Not sure if it was a scratch I watched it. I made
an
> appointment to the vet. The next day both eyes were red. Went to the vet
> and he  said he is  blind. They ran in house test for blood pressure and to
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> comment.
> Thanks for reading this post.

Michael,

Time of the essence.  Your cat needs to see a veterinary ophthalmologist
*immediately*.  In which State do you live?  I'll help you find a
ophthalmologist.  You cannot delay for an instant.

No offense to your vet, but most  local vets are only  general practitioners
and only lightly trained in ophthalmology.

Please follow the advice others have given you and see an ophthalmologist.

Please let us know your State and we'll help you find a veterinary
ophthalmologist.

Please hurry.

Phil
MaryL - 10 Feb 2005 11:35 GMT
> Hi, This is my first post please help or give any information. I have two
> cats one male age 8 the other female age 3. Last Friday I noticed redness
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> comment.
> Thanks for reading this post.

Michael,

*Please* follow the advice that several of us have given to consult a
veterinary ophthalmologist.  As Phil said, time is of the essence.  He also
offered to help you locate one in your area if you provide the state where
you live.  Certain medical problems (such as detached retinas) can be
corrected, but *only* if immediate action is taken.  A matter of days is
sometimes too late!  You need to consult a *specialist,* just as humans
would go to a specialist for certain conditions and not to a general
practitioner.  Meghan noted that the ophthalmologist is her case found that
the damage was permanent, but told them what they needed to know.  I found
the same with Duffy.  It is possible that you could also receive the same
information, but you risk causing permanent -- and unnecessary -- blindness
if you delay.  I can tell from the tone of your message that you love your
cat and want the best for him, so *please, please* get immediate attention
from a feline ophthalmologist.  Valuable time has already been lost.

MaryL
Michael Hensley - 10 Feb 2005 14:56 GMT
The nearest one is almost 7 hours away.When I get home from work I will
call and see if they can give me some information. I also plan to call
around to the other vets and see what they say.Thanks for all of the help
and advice. Friday whn the blood work comes back I will let you know the
results.
Phil P. - 10 Feb 2005 15:38 GMT
> The nearest one is almost 7 hours away.When I get home from work I will
> call and see if they can give me some information. I also plan to call
> around to the other vets and see what they say.Thanks for all of the help
> and advice. Friday whn the blood work comes back I will let you know the
> results.

Michael,

If the closest ACVO ophthalmologist is too far away, let me know which State
you're in, I'll help you locate a feline specialist.  You don't have any
time to lose.

Try going to http://www.acvim.org/Kittleson/search.htm and do a search for
an internal medicine Diplomate/Specialist close to you. American College of
Veterinary Internal Medicine Diplomates are about the best there is.

If you can't find an ACVIM specialist in your area, try searching for an
ABVP Diplomate/Feline Specialist (American Board of Veterinary
Practitioners).

Go to http://www.abvp.com/diplosearch1.htm http://www.abvp.com/

If you rather not give your location out on a newsgroup, please feel free to
email me privately.

Please do not delay.

Phil
Michael Hensley - 11 Feb 2005 04:06 GMT
My location is in the lower part of  Alabama
Phil P. - 11 Feb 2005 07:15 GMT
> My location is in the lower part of  Alabama

Are you closer to Athens or Baton Rouge?
Holly - 10 Feb 2005 14:39 GMT
Hi Micheal,
I agree that you should get him to am feline opthamoligist But if his
vision can not be corrected he should still get along just fine. I have
a completly blind and Partially deaf Siamese at home. The main things I
do is try and not move the furniture, her food, water bowls, litter box
etc to very often, if I do I spend the next few hours making sure she
can find it usually by talking to her and directing her to were things
are. Pheniox lives a fairly normal life, yes she does run in to things
but cats have a terrific sence of smell and she pretty much navigates
by that. Of course a lot of kitty proffing has been done just to be on
the safe side. But with a little patcience and understanding on your
part He will do fine.
Phil P. - 10 Feb 2005 19:57 GMT
> Hi Micheal,
> I agree that you should get him to am feline opthamoligist But if his
> vision can not be corrected he should still get along just fine. I have
> a completly blind and Partially deaf Siamese at home.

Hi Holly,

I feel very badly about your cat even though I've known blind cats that
navigate so well that its often hard to believe they're blind.

I have a question I've been wondering about that I'd like to ask you and
MaryL, if she's reading this.

Do you have other cats?  If so, do they all get along?  The reason I'm
asking is because a blind cat we placed awhile back was returned twice
because the resident cats in both homes attacked her and no one could figure
out what brought on the attacks.  She's been doing fine in a single-cat home
for quite awhile - however, I think she would be happier with a companion
with whom she could bond.

This cat definitely is not aggressive or dominating.  So, the only possible
reason I can come up for the attacks is that she unintentionally provoked
the other cats by not responding friendly or submissively to their gestures
(ears, tail, eyes, position) because she couldn't see them.  The other cats
might have taken her lack of response as a challenge.  Make sense?

I've been thinking about placing another blind cat with her, but I'm not
sure if that's a good idea.  I don't want to put her through another
introduction or possible attack or stressful situation - but I don't want
her to be a single cat, either.

Phil.
Karen - 10 Feb 2005 20:17 GMT
> > Hi Micheal,
> > I agree that you should get him to am feline opthamoligist But if his
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>
> Phil.

Do you suppose she needs to be placed with a younger cat?
zuzu22@webtv.net - 10 Feb 2005 21:50 GMT
>She's been doing fine in a single-cat
>home for quite awhile - however, I think
>she would be happier with a companion
>with whom she could bond.

She's been doing well on her own and after not one but two failed
attempts at introducing her to other cats at this point you should leave
well enough alone. There is no guarantee that she would bond with
whatever cat is brought into the picture, and if it doesn't work out
then she'll have been stressed yet again, and the other cat will be
stressed again as well as being taken out of another home and being
placed in yet another foster home until something permanent is found.
Right now she's happy and doing well. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Megan

                                   
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Phil P. - 11 Feb 2005 12:28 GMT
> >She's been doing fine in a single-cat
> >home for quite awhile - however, I think
> >she would be happier with a companion
> >with whom she could bond.
>
> She's been doing well on her own

But I think she would be happier with a companion.  She's not a loner or the
single-cat type.

and after not one but two failed
> attempts at introducing her to other cats

That's where the problems may have been.  We're not absolutely sure the
adoptives followed our introduction instructions to the letter.  They may
have allowed free reign and initial physical contact to soon because she's
such a mellow and easygoing cat or, they may have felt the introduction
process was too drawn out and/or too inconvenient.

I can't always assume people relinquishing a cat are always telling the
entire truth.  A cat with special needs may have turned out to be more of a
responsibility than they originally anticipated.  Its easier to blame the
cats than themselves.  She wasn't harmed and there wasn't any evidence of an
attack; she clearly didn't display any fear of others cats when she was
returned.  IOW, I have my doubts.

at this point you should leave
> well enough alone. There is no guarantee that she would bond with
> whatever cat is brought into the picture,

I understand your concerns, however, she was not the aggressor in either
situation.  The reason I'm even thinking about a companion for her is
because she got along so well with the other cats in reception and clearly
sought and enjoyed the company of other cats.  She wasn't a hider or a
loner, or defensive.  She actively sought companionship in a nonaggressive
and friendly manner.  If she didn't, we wouldn't have even considered
placing her in a multicat home in the first place.

and if it doesn't work out
> then she'll have been stressed yet again, and the other cat will be
> stressed again as well as being taken out of another home and being
> placed in yet another foster home until something permanent is found.
> Right now she's happy and doing well.

I said she was doing quite well meaning they weren't having any problems. I
didn't say she was happy - and from the way she seemed to enjoy the company
of the other cats in reception, I don't think she's really happy as a single
cat.  Her guardian would also like her to have a friend - which adds
additional concerns.  I would rather her guardian and us carefully choose a
companion whom we know well, rather than her guardian adopt an unknown cat
from an unknown source.

Thanks for your input. You brought up some valid issues.

Phil
-L. - 11 Feb 2005 00:31 GMT
> Hi Holly,
>
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>
> Phil.

Just FWIW, a couple years ago I placed a blind female, spayed, elderly
cat in a 2-cat home - they all got along fine.  The other cats were
both neutered males - an older (12) and a young'n (2).  They got along
right from the start.  I think they simply didn't see the old gal as a
threat.  She and the youngster sleep together and groom each other.
It may just be a matter of finding the right cat.

-L.
Phil P. - 11 Feb 2005 12:23 GMT
> Just FWIW, a couple years ago I placed a blind female, spayed, elderly
> cat in a 2-cat home - they all got along fine.  The other cats were
> both neutered males - an older (12) and a young'n (2).  They got along
> right from the start.  I think they simply didn't see the old gal as a
> threat.  She and the youngster sleep together and groom each other.
> It may just be a matter of finding the right cat.

I think you're right.  Also, after scrutinizing the sequence of events over
and over, I think the problem may have also involved the choice of
adoptives.
MaryL - 11 Feb 2005 00:37 GMT
>> Hi Micheal,
>> I agree that you should get him to am feline opthamoligist But if his
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>
> Phil.

Yes, my cats get along very well together.  However, I spent a *great deal*
of time over a period of several weeks helping them adjust.  Holly had
previously been very antagonistic to any cat in my vicinity, so I took a lot
of precautions with the introduction.  Duffy gets along so well on his own
that I have had visitors who didn't realize for the first 15 minutes or so
that he is blind.  They have a hard time believing it when they seem him
maneuver easily under and over obstacles, back and forth around the poles on
his cat tree, etc.  If Holly is is front, he will even run at full speed
through the house behind her (but is more cautious when on his own).  I
sometimes refer to Holly as "Duffy's seeing-eye cat."

Despite all those good results, I agree with what Megan has written.  Duffy
had been in a cage at a shelter for several months, and he was really in sad
physical condition.  He was cared-for, but was so miserable that he ate very
little and was much too thin.  He was starved for love and affection, and I
think he would not have survived much longer because space would have been
at a premium with kitten season arriving.  By contrast, you described a cat
that seems to do well in a single-cat household, but has already been
through the unhappiness of unsuccessful adoptions.  I had single cats for
many years, and they were very happy -- and greatly loved.

MaryL
Duffy at the shelter (before adoption):
http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320/476350/1636692/19233823.jpg
Duffy today:
http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320/476350/1916528/41680392.jpg
Holly and Duffy playing on the cat tree:
http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320/476350/1916528/24118497.jpg
Holly on the mantle:
http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320/476350/1916528/34609798.jpg
Duffy in the Christmas tree:
http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320/476350/1916528/76258004.jpg
Duffy "hanging out" over the edge of his scratching post:
http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320/476350/1916528/22854822.jpg
Phil P. - 11 Feb 2005 12:20 GMT
> > I've been thinking about placing another blind cat with her, but I'm not
> > sure if that's a good idea.  I don't want to put her through another
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> think he would not have survived much longer because space would have been
> at a premium with kitten season arriving.

By contrast, you described a cat
> that seems to do well in a single-cat household,

Doing well in the sense that there haven't been any problems.  However,
after having watched her interact with the other cats in reception, I think
she would be much happier if she had a companion.  This cat actively sought
the company of other cats and certainly seemed to enjoy their company either
for companionship or possibly security - as in the relationship between
Holly and Duffy.  That's why I'm having such a hard time trying to figure
out what caused the problems.

I know very well that a cat could become aggressive if the other cat doesn't
respond appropriately to the first cat's posture and signals - which could
have been the case because she could not see the other cat's signals.
However, she did not have this problem with the other cats in reception -
which of course could be because all the cats were in neutral territory.

but has already been
> through the unhappiness of unsuccessful adoptions.

There is a possibility that the unsuccessful adoptions were due, at least in
part, to choice of adoptives.  I didn't handle either adoption and I met the
second adoptive only briefly at the surrender -- after which is why I'm
considering the possibility that the cats were may not have been the entire
problem.

At least if this last attempt fails, it wouldn't result in rehoming her
again.  She is clearly the permanent resident cat.

I had single cats for
> many years, and they were very happy -- and greatly loved.

After closely observing ferals in colonies and the cats in the
shelter -after- the need to compete for sex, food, and shelter have been
removed,  I'm thoroughly convinced cats are indeed naturally sociable and
enjoy if not actually need the company of other cats.  Otherwise, they
wouldn't have developed such an array of signals, sounds, and body language
to convey their attitudes and emotions to other cats.

> MaryL
> Duffy at the shelter (before adoption):
> http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320/476350/1636692/19233823.jpg
> Duffy today:
> http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320/476350/1916528/41680392.jpg

Its so hard to believe these two pictures are the same cat!!!   I get a
surge of joy everytime I see them!

Don't you think Holly greatly enriched his life and played a major roll in
his phenomenal transformation?  I do.

> Holly and Duffy playing on the cat tree:
> http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320/476350/1916528/24118497.jpg
> Holly on the mantle:
> http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320/476350/1916528/34609798.jpg
> Duffy in the Christmas tree:
> http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320/476350/1916528/76258004.jpg

> Duffy "hanging out" over the edge of his scratching post:
> http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL320/476350/1916528/22854822.jpg

Now that's confidence!

Thanks for your thoughts.

Phil.
MaryL - 11 Feb 2005 12:43 GMT
>> > I've been thinking about placing another blind cat with her, but I'm
>> > not
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>
> Phil.

Yes, I do agree that Holly greatly enriched Duffy's life -- and, after a
period of adjustment, he also enriched Holly's life.  She was happy before I
adopted Duffy, but I really do think that his presence has added to her
contentment.  In addition, I take a vacation for 2 weeks every summer (but
am seldom gone overnight other than that).  In the past, Holly always
traveled with me.  Now that I have both Holly and Duffy, I have a petsitter
who comes to my home twice each day.  Holly was a good traveler, but it is
really much better for her to be able to remain in her own environment.  I
did not want to leaver her alone for 2 weeks (other than the twice-daily
visits by a petsitter), but the two cats do very well in this situation
since they have each other for companionship.

If you do decide to add a companion kitty in the case you described, please
make sure that the adoptive "parent" will take a great deal of time and care
with the introduction.  I really do believe that was the key to success in
my case.  Too many people think you can just "throw cats together" and
everything will be fine.  Sometimes it works well, but that is a recipe for
failure for many cases -- one that often cannot be overcome by a later (too
late) change of plans.  I have included 2 links to photo albums under my
signature.  These albums (especially the first one) were compiled to show
the progression of introducing Holly and Duffy in a very slow, careful
manner.  I realize that you already know about slow introductions, but I
think it is something that has to be impressed *very strongly* on those who
are adopting.

MaryL

Photos of Duffy and Holly:      >'o'<
http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly)
http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")
Phil P. - 13 Feb 2005 12:11 GMT
> >> > I've been thinking about placing another blind cat with her, but I'm
> >> > not
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> with the introduction.  I really do believe that was the key to success in
> my case.

Absolutely!  Her present -*permanent*- guardian is a *saint*!  She even
removed or modified her furniture that had low sharp corners and completely
cat-proofed her home!

Too many people think you can just "throw cats together" and
> everything will be fine.  Sometimes it works well, but that is a recipe for
> failure for many cases -- one that often cannot be overcome by a later (too
> late) change of plans.

Absolutely.  Sometimes the initial agression will cause the new cat to take
a defensive posture every time the resident cat is near - which in turn
provokes the resident cat.  It becomes an irreparable self-perpetuating
cycle.  Sometimes it can be corrected but often it can't be.  This can also
lead to the resident cat becoming aggressive with any new cats.

>I have included 2 links to photo albums under my
> signature.  These albums (especially the first one) were compiled to show
> the progression of introducing Holly and Duffy in a very slow, careful
> manner.  I realize that you already know about slow introductions, but I
> think it is something that has to be impressed *very strongly* on those who
> are adopting.

I'm very glad you re-emphasized the importance of slow, well-planned
introductions.  Because their cats may be mellow and easy-going, many people
believe planned introductions aren't necessary.  To my mind, the two or
three week introduction is a small price to pay to ensure a life-long
harmonious companionship.

> MaryL
>
> Photos of Duffy and Holly:      >'o'<
> http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly)
> http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")

Absolutely perfect! I think you should really consider building a website
devoted strictly to introductions so it can be Googled.  I think it would
prevent a lot of disasters and returns.

Btw, did you cut out the door specifically for the introduction?  I think
its a great idea!  A sliding grate with adjustable hieghts might make a
perfect idea even better.

I think your site will also be an inspiration to others with blind cats and
might even encourage some people to seek and adopt blind cats!

Great job, Mary.

Phil
MaryL - 13 Feb 2005 17:22 GMT
> I'm very glad you re-emphasized the importance of slow, well-planned
> introductions.  Because their cats may be mellow and easy-going, many
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>
> Phil

Thanks, Phil.  Yes, I had the door made specifically for the introduction.
Megan suggested using a screen door to replace the permanent door, and I
have a person who does all sorts of "handyman" projects who was able to come
up with that door.  He located an unfinished interior door that was very
inexpensive because it had some damage on one side, cut out a large square,
then installed a type of heavy-duty screening (actually, the type of heavy
metal mesh that is often placed at the bottom of doors to protect against
damage if someone accidentally kicks it), and finally nailed a thin piece of
wood on the inside of the door all around the edges of the screening so
there would not be any sharp edges.  I went with this smaller design because
I could easily cover it with fabric (even had hooks placed on the inside for
that purpose), in case Holly or Duffy became agitated.  In actual fact, I
never did need to cover the screen.  He removed the hardware (handle and
hinges) from my permanent door and used them for the temporary door, then
reversed the process when I no longer needed the temporary door.
Incidentally, the temporary door is now lying in my attic -- if I ever need
it, I will have it readily available.

MaryL
Phil P. - 13 Feb 2005 22:22 GMT
<snip>

> > I'm very glad you re-emphasized the importance of slow, well-planned
> > introductions.  Because their cats may be mellow and easy-going, many
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> >> http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly)
> >> http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")

<snip>

> Thanks, Phil.  Yes, I had the door made specifically for the introduction.
> Megan suggested using a screen door to replace the permanent door, and I
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> Incidentally, the temporary door is now lying in my attic -- if I ever need
> it, I will have it readily available.

That's actually a great idea.  Inexpensive doors can be bought at Home Depot
for a lot less than the 3 gates I use.  In fact, a pre-hung door in a frame
with hinges already installed would be cheaper than the gates.  Just throw
out the frame!  Switching doors is just a matter of sliding out 2 pins in
the hinges.  Cutting the opening could be done with a jigsaw or even a
keyhole saw for $5.  Decorative aluminum radiator grates could be tacked
over the opening for another $10.

I really like that idea! Its the best one I've seen - its even more
convenient than the gates.

Thanks!

Phil
MaryL - 13 Feb 2005 22:55 GMT
> <snip>
>
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>
> Phil

Yes, it really was convenient.  I could easily slip in and out to bring food
and "attention" to Duffy.  While Duffy was in that room, I alternated times
between the two cats -- that is usually my guest bedroom, so I spent every
other night in my own room so Holly could be with me and every other night
in the room with Duffy.  I spent a lot of time with Duffy so he would not be
lonely -- would often sit in that room reading or watching TV, and Duffy
soon found that he wanted to either be in my lap or curl up on the top of
the chair behind my head.  It was very important for Holly to know that she
wasn't somehow being relegated to second-place status, so I literally poured
the affection on her every time I came out of Duffy's room, and I made sure
that I gave her as much or more time than Duffy.

MaryL
Holly - 11 Feb 2005 15:24 GMT
Hi Phil,
I have 2 other cats and a dog and they seem to me to know that Pheniox
needs alittle extra at times. Sometimes my little one Sasha will sit and
call her to her food bowl at meal times.
Karen - 11 Feb 2005 15:40 GMT
Aww. Aww. Aww. What a sweetie!

> Hi Phil,
> I have 2 other cats and a dog and they seem to me to know that Pheniox
> needs alittle extra at times. Sometimes my little one Sasha will sit and
> call her to her food bowl at meal times.
 
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