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soft - 09 Feb 2005 00:33 GMT
Just an idea I am considering. I have 13 acres and 2 barns (lots of
unwanted critters there) and some of the neighbors have cats roaming
free that I do see from time to time.
Now I do have my 4 indoor babies and am not wanting to add any right
now. But would it do any good to take in ferral cats - neutered/spayed
that no one else will adopt and let them roam their life out on the
grounds?
I of course would feed the little critters but would I be causing more
bad than good?

Karryl
rmarvrn@hotmail.com - 09 Feb 2005 01:49 GMT
They mostly try to place ferals back where they came from, with someone
to promise to feed them.  But I got a couple ferals for my barn this
summer after we lost our barn cats.  They had to stay in a cage for a
few weeks to get the idea that my place is home.  One of them is
semi-tame, comes within 5-10 feet of us, and understands we are feeding
them.  The other 2 are totally feral, and we rarely see them.

But when you start putting out food for adopted ferals, you may find
you collect more cats from the neighbors, etc!  We have had 4 more male
cats show up since leaving food out.  One full grown wild boy, two
friendly kittens who are already adopted out by my foster agency.
Finally, sweet Will, a gray tuxedo who we are keeping as our (friendly)
barn cat.  He still needs to go to the vet for his shots and neuter,
but he has definitely claimed us as his own!
BarB - 09 Feb 2005 05:27 GMT

>But when you start putting out food for adopted ferals, you may find
>you collect more cats from the neighbors, etc!

I think they post little signs, " Sucker Lives Here!"

BarB
KellyH - 09 Feb 2005 02:56 GMT
> Just an idea I am considering. I have 13 acres and 2 barns (lots of
> unwanted critters there) and some of the neighbors have cats roaming
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>
> Karryl

Here's a good webpage from an organization in my area.  This might give you
an idea of what's involved.
http://www.mrfrs.org/barnpage.html

I would LOVE to have the acreage you do an be able to have a feral colony.
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kelly at farringtons dot net
"Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG

soft - 10 Feb 2005 03:30 GMT
>> Just an idea I am considering. I have 13 acres and 2 barns (lots of
>> unwanted critters there) and some of the neighbors have cats roaming
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>
>I would LOVE to have the acreage you do an be able to have a feral colony.

Thanks for the link, I will check into it. I do know that in the city
they have problems with ferrel cats and no where to go with them. They
even were doing a catch & spay/neuter then release. I don't know if I
will do this but its a thought.
I just hate that so many have to be put to sleep because they are
ferrel and no one wants them. I do realize I would also get other
cats, possem, skunks and anything else hungry stopping in for a meal.

Karryl
Phil P. - 09 Feb 2005 09:30 GMT
> Just an idea I am considering. I have 13 acres and 2 barns (lots of
> unwanted critters there) and some of the neighbors have cats roaming
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> I of course would feed the little critters but would I be causing more
> bad than good?

Its an absolutely wonderful idea, Karryl.  In fact, its one my dream
projects when I finally retire completely. You'll be saving many cats'
lives.  Ferals and even frightened srays are usually labeled "unadoptable"
and automatically killed upon arrival at most shelters.

Have you worked with ferals and feral colonies in the past?  Relocating and
acclimating ferals to a new territory is arduous process.  Its not as easy
as just letting the cats loose in their new territory - because the cats
don't know its *their* new territory.

Ferals cherish their territory and their bonds to each other.  So, its going
to take some time for the cats to develop bonds to their new territory.  So
until the cats are acclimated, be prepared for some pretty creative and
ingenious escape attempts to return to their old territory! ;-)

If you have two barns, perhaps you can make a section of one barn escape
proof using fencing.  This will eliminate cage confinement during
acclimation - which is extremely stressful for ferals - fencing will also
allow new and resident cats to approach each other in safety.

Neutering all the cats and providing ample food and shelter will eliminate
nearly all the usual problems - i.e., territorial disputes.  In my
experience, once ferals are relieved of the competitive pressures of sex,
food and shelter, they're *more* sociable with other cats because they're
already used to having relationships with other cats in their colonies.

I know many of us will thoroughly enjoy reading your progress reports and
will offer as much help as we can.

Best of luck with your wonderful idea!

Phil
Holly - 09 Feb 2005 14:58 GMT
Oh that is a wonderful idea, 14 acres of land to roam with out the
worries of cars or mean hoomines and food that is easaly accessed what
more could a ferel ask for.
Oh big hugs for you for wanting to do such a great thing.
Happy kitty dances that it works out for you.
soft - 10 Feb 2005 03:41 GMT
>Oh that is a wonderful idea, 14 acres of land to roam with out the
>worries of cars or mean hoomines and food that is easaly accessed what
>more could a ferel ask for.
>Oh big hugs for you for wanting to do such a great thing.
>Happy kitty dances that it works out for you.

Well I am thinking for now it is something I really need to research
and contact some people here that foster or trap ferrels and see what
resources or help I could get. I have little to no funds right now but
who knows what is in the future.

Karryl
soft - 10 Feb 2005 03:39 GMT
>> Just an idea I am considering. I have 13 acres and 2 barns (lots of
>> unwanted critters there) and some of the neighbors have cats roaming
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>as just letting the cats loose in their new territory - because the cats
>don't know its *their* new territory.

NO - I am just now looking into the idea, and I am going to have to
study up to see if it's possible. I could not pay for the cats like
shelters ask - however they would not have to put these animals down.
I fifure if they can spay/neuter whatever they have picked up/ then I
could rehome them.

Course my dream would be to have an outdoor/inclosed area where
nothing could get to the cats, yet they could be outside and enjoy the
grounds. That would take a pretty penny and I would have to win the
lotto I think.....

>Ferals cherish their territory and their bonds to each other.  So, its going
>to take some time for the cats to develop bonds to their new territory.  So
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>acclimation - which is extremely stressful for ferals - fencing will also
>allow new and resident cats to approach each other in safety.

I have one small barn (about the size of 2 stalls, that is filled with
junk. I have a second huge machine barn ( it use to hold a tractor,
goose neck trailer, boat, and a truck comfortably), that I want to
close off a part to make into a 2 car garage and tool area. That would
leave a large part that could be fixed to keep cats in. Course that
takes money and you already have me thinking this would take me
several years to get off the ground. And I am disabled so I also need
to make sure I can physically do this - or that I can get help doing
this from maybe our no kill shelter here.

Karryl

>Neutering all the cats and providing ample food and shelter will eliminate
>nearly all the usual problems - i.e., territorial disputes.  In my
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>
>Phil
rmarvrn@hotmail.com - 10 Feb 2005 04:27 GMT
Check it out.  The agency I foster for had already spayed/neutered the
cats.  They even provide part of the food.

You could eliminate some of the "freeloaders" by feeding twice a day
and picking up the food after a certain amount of time.  I am just not
that devoted-easier to leave food out 24/7.  I work full time, and
don't think it would be fair to the cats to change the feeding times
daily!

Two of my ferals are brothers, so they stick together.  The cage period
was weird-they just hid under a blanket in their cage.  But I got them
this summer, and they have now claimed our yard as home.  We don't have
a special cat area in the barn.  Our previous barn cats always fended
for themselves, nesting in the hay, etc.  We fed them once a day, and
they were good mousers.  One girl, Spot, even used to leave my dh a
dead mouse in the barn every day as a gift.

Call a few foster agencies in your area.  Maybe someone at the shelter
can build a small boxed area for the cats to stay warm in your barn,
and you could start with a few.  Its not like pet cats, but just
knowing the cats whose only "sin" is being wild are able to live safely
is rewarding.  And maybe someone sweet like our Will might adopt you!
Good Luck!
 
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