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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / February 2005Shipping???
I was at my veterinarian's office and had a chance to read an issue of Cat Fancy, including the ads. Many for breeders. (Ragdolls seem to be the breed du jour.) And a lot of them said something to the effect, "Will ship anywhere in U.S.," etc. Okay, peeps, help me out here -- how does one "ship" a living animal without hand carrying (which isn't shipping)? The thought is horrifying to me.  Signaturehttp://www.slywy.com/pages/hodge.html > I was at my veterinarian's office and had a chance to read an issue of > Cat Fancy, including the ads. Many for breeders. (Ragdolls seem to be > the breed du jour.) And a lot of them said something to the effect, > "Will ship anywhere in U.S.," etc. Okay, peeps, help me out here -- how > does one "ship" a living animal without hand carrying (which isn't > shipping)? The thought is horrifying to me. The cat as object. Gotta love breeders. > I was at my veterinarian's office and had a chance to read an issue of > Cat Fancy, including the ads. Many for breeders. (Ragdolls seem to be > the breed du jour.) And a lot of them said something to the effect, > "Will ship anywhere in U.S.," etc. Okay, peeps, help me out here -- how > does one "ship" a living animal without hand carrying (which isn't > shipping)? The thought is horrifying to me. Some breeders will ship, others will refuse to ship... only adopting their animals out to those willing to pick them up in person. In my opinion, the better breeders are those who refuse to ship. They put the welfare of the animal before profits. Offering to ship means they open themselves up to a wider market, hence the possibility of more "sales". BTW, Ragdolls have been the "breed du jour" for quite sometime now... certainly longer than one day. ;) > > I was at my veterinarian's office and had a chance to read an issue of > > Cat Fancy, including the ads. Many for breeders. (Ragdolls seem to be [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > they open themselves up to a wider market, hence the possibility of more > "sales". How do you ship a live animal? Throw it in a crate with holes and hope it lives? > BTW, Ragdolls have been the "breed du jour" for quite sometime now... > certainly longer than one day. ;) Just an expression. Signaturehttp://www.slywy.com/ >>>I was at my veterinarian's office and had a chance to read an issue of >>>Cat Fancy, including the ads. Many for breeders. (Ragdolls seem to be [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > How do you ship a live animal? Throw it in a crate with holes and hope > it lives? The animal must be first placed, not thrown ;) , in an approved shipping kennel. Airplane, where they are loaded into the cargo hold. The cargo hold is pressurized and temperature controlled to be in a comfortable range. >>BTW, Ragdolls have been the "breed du jour" for quite sometime now... >>certainly longer than one day. ;) > > Just an expression. > > How do you ship a live animal? Throw it in a crate with holes and hope > > it lives? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The cargo hold is pressurized and temperature controlled to be in a > comfortable range. How terrifying. With or without sedation. Hodge disapproves. Signaturehttp://www.slywy.com/pages/hodge.html >>>How do you ship a live animal? Throw it in a crate with holes and hope >>>it lives? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > How terrifying. With or without sedation. No drugs or other mind altering substances. > Hodge disapproves. So does Joe. (...) > > Airplane, where they are loaded into the cargo hold. > > > > The cargo hold is pressurized and temperature controlled to be in a > > comfortable range. > > How terrifying. With or without sedation. > > Hodge disapproves. Disapproval or not, cat-as-object or not, some of us have to ship our cats when we move countries (well, I suppose we could give the mogs a map, compass and a pair of water wings and tell 'em to get about it, but my cats have a tendency to chase the compass point instead of following the indicated direction. Fools). Really, I don't think the mechanics of shipping are all that scary. In the case of breeders, what *is* scary is that the breeder will (presumably) send their cat off into the unknown without meeting the recipient, and - worse - that some purchasers will buy their cat sight-unseen. Bad practices, both. Steve. There are many rules and regs of shipping. While I have never had a cat shipped, I did have my Old English Sheepdog shipped to me as a pup. I live in MS, and the breeder was in TX. She was to hand deliver on a trip, but a hurricane hit and the trip had to be put off. The animal has to go through a very thourough vet checkup to ensure health. The airline will only ship if it is a non-stop flight. The animal has to be in an airline approved crate. And they only ship during certain months to ensure it does not get to hot/cold in the cargo area. My dog was given a sedative (which she is given even when we go on car trips). We were waiting at the airport for her after a 2 hour flight. She was none worse for the wear... It is much the same as taking an animal with you on a flight... they have to stay in the cargo area (unless small, and pre-approved). >I was at my veterinarian's office and had a chance to read an issue of > Cat Fancy, including the ads. Many for breeders. (Ragdolls seem to be > the breed du jour.) And a lot of them said something to the effect, > "Will ship anywhere in U.S.," etc. Okay, peeps, help me out here -- how > does one "ship" a living animal without hand carrying (which isn't > shipping)? The thought is horrifying to me. Your all crazy First off the reason you think Ragdolls are the cat of the day is because so many think they can make money on them and advertise them. The most popular cat is the Persian with the Maine Coon a close second That being said. As long as the cat is in a good kennel they can be easily shipped. And most airlines recommend not drugging the animal. I have received cats from Germany, The Netherlands, Brazil as well as various places in the US with no harm to the animal. The cat comes out of the carrier as happy as a clam. If I were to go on a flight with my cat it would travel under my seat, not in the cargo hold !!! It does not hurt the animal, how do you think dogs are shown all over the US, if they were not shipped The big dog show in NY this month, how do you think a lot of those dogs got there??? You are a real bunch of unknowledgeable fools who not only don't want to know the truth but spout nonsense. Beverley > Your all crazy And naturally that would make you crazy as well, since you are in this newsgroup with all the so called crazies. > First off the reason you think Ragdolls are the cat of the day is Right. Like you can read our crazy minds. I have a Ragdoll... which is the reason why I think they are great. > The cat comes > out of the carrier as happy as a clam. I've seen plenty of cats come out of carriers after travel, and none has ever been *happy* in any way, shape, or form. Hence my distaste for the concept of "shipping." How would *you* liked to be shipped, not knowing why, where to, how long, etc.? "happy as a clam," my shapely hinder. ;) Signaturehttp://www.slywy.com/pages/hodge.html >>The cat comes >>out of the carrier as happy as a clam. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > How would *you* liked to be shipped, not knowing why, where to, how > long, etc.? A surprise trip? Sounds like fun. When do I get wrapped up? ;) > "happy as a clam," my shapely hinder. ;) Okay, peeps, help me out here -- how > > does one "ship" a living animal without hand carrying (which isn't > > shipping)? The thought is horrifying to me./// Piggybacking, so sorry. :o) I have shipped my cats all over the world - literally. Between the 3 of them, I think they have covered at least 70,000 miles. Providing the carrier you use is sound with enough space, and you pick the right airline, my guys are pretty relaxed about the whole thing and are good travellers. The problem I DO have, is with breeders shipping to an unknown. e.g. Puppy breeders shipping in the UK shipping to the USA for example. There, you're shipping to an unknown so have no idea where the animal will end up. helen m
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