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Lisa Horton - 04 Feb 2005 10:26 GMT
Hi. I would like to adopt a kitten for a family house pet. We have
young children. What breeds are most suitable? I like Siamese,
Persians, and Manx. Any others to consider?

Thanks.

Lisa
Cat Protector - 04 Feb 2005 14:20 GMT
Why don't you go to your local shelter and adopt a cat that needs a good and
loving home?

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> Hi. I would like to adopt a kitten for a family house pet. We have
> young children. What breeds are most suitable? I like Siamese,
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>
> Lisa
Dan M - 04 Feb 2005 17:46 GMT
> Why don't you go to your local shelter and adopt a cat that needs a good and
> loving home?

I'd second that. The gentlest, sweetest kitties I've ever had were mixed
breed cats rescued from the animal shelter. And always remember that
even though any given breed might be known for their gentleness and
sweetness, individual cats can always vary from that behavior.
Mary - 04 Feb 2005 18:17 GMT
> > Why don't you go to your local shelter and adopt a cat that needs a good and
> > loving home?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> even though any given breed might be known for their gentleness and
> sweetness, individual cats can always vary from that behavior.

Yes indeed! Plus, temperament in cats, just like in humans, is a
combination of "nature" and "nurture."
Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Feb 2005 15:29 GMT
> Hi. I would like to adopt a kitten for a family house pet. We have young
> children. What breeds are most suitable? I like Siamese, Persians, and Manx.
> Any others to consider?
>
> Thanks.

Why did you set the follow-up to two camera NGs?  That should be interesting.

Consider adopting an adult cat, rather than a particular breed as a kitten.
You'll be able to see an adult cat's personality first hand, whereas
individuals within a breed may not match the "goal" temperament.

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Slimpickins - 04 Feb 2005 15:36 GMT
> > Hi. I would like to adopt a kitten for a family house pet. We have young
> > children. What breeds are most suitable? I like Siamese, Persians, and Manx.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> monique, roommate of Oscar the (female) grouch
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

***Oh. You forgot to demand that she MUST adopt from the animal shelter.
Where are your morals!? Gee, she must be a cat abuser if she doesn't.
Heaven help her if she dares to later mention breeding her cat.

ML
Cat Protector - 04 Feb 2005 15:40 GMT
You must be a troller or someone very ignorant about the overpopulation
problem.

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> ***Oh. You forgot to demand that she MUST adopt from the animal shelter.
> Where are your morals!? Gee, she must be a cat abuser if she doesn't.
> Heaven help her if she dares to later mention breeding her cat.
>
> ML
Slimpickins - 04 Feb 2005 15:55 GMT
**No Einstein, I'm not a troll. Just a long time poster and lurker here.
Tired of the constant verbal abuse some* of the so-called "cat lovers" here
that spew out meanness and attacks regularly. I really can't make the
connect between the kindness, love, and care animals need and the way a few
here actually treat strangers. Scary. I wonder out loud if their real*
actions match up with their shop talk? Talk is cheap.

But if you really are dying to know about what/ who started this whole
tirade, then I'd suggest you go back and read the 100 or so posts that
started this.  In a nut shell, it boils down to calling rudeness,
name-calling, and gutter talk what it really is...Filth, lies and verbal
abuse.

ML

> You must be a troller or someone very ignorant about the overpopulation
> problem.
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> >
> > ML
Cat Protector - 04 Feb 2005 16:00 GMT
You can block the newsgroup you or simply not read the flaming posts. While
I may not be a fan of the flame wars I certainly don't have to read them. Or
if you wish, you can go to other cat forums. I can suggest a couple.

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> **No Einstein, I'm not a troll. Just a long time poster and lurker here.
> Tired of the constant verbal abuse some* of the so-called "cat lovers"
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>> >
>> > ML
KellyH - 04 Feb 2005 16:18 GMT
> You can block the newsgroup you or simply not read the flaming posts.
> While I may not be a fan of the flame wars I certainly don't have to read
> them. Or if you wish, you can go to other cat forums. I can suggest a
> couple.

You really think this guy/girl who intends on breeding his cat would be
welcome on any other cat forum?  Would you welcome him/her on Cat Galaxy?

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Cat Protector - 04 Feb 2005 16:28 GMT
Well we don't know if that is really the case. There are a lot of people on
these boards and all of them have differing opinions. As for the Cat Galaxy
Forum, if a person causes problems by not following the board rules then we
can kick them off. All you really can do is educate and hope someone makes
the right decision regarding their cats.

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> You really think this guy/girl who intends on breeding his cat would be
> welcome on any other cat forum?  Would you welcome him/her on Cat Galaxy?
KellyH - 04 Feb 2005 16:54 GMT
> Well we don't know if that is really the case. There are a lot of people
> on these boards and all of them have differing opinions. As for the Cat
> Galaxy Forum, if a person causes problems by not following the board rules
> then we can kick them off. All you really can do is educate and hope
> someone makes the right decision regarding their cats.

Well if you read the posts, I and others tried educating, but it didn't
work.  Now he calling us all extremists and lunatics.

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Cat Protector - 04 Feb 2005 17:03 GMT
I have seen plenty of name calling on this board as well as put downs.
Obviously, that really doesn't help matters any especially when you are
trying to educate others about cats. The best thing to do is not drag
yourself down to this person's level. You accomplish nothing if you allow
them to guide you in their childish direction. I know on the Cat Galaxy
Forum that flame wars are not wanted and can get you kicked off. I prefer
that it stay clean and people act like adults if they are going to post
something.

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> Well if you read the posts, I and others tried educating, but it didn't
> work.  Now he calling us all extremists and lunatics.
KellyH - 04 Feb 2005 17:08 GMT
>I have seen plenty of name calling on this board as well as put downs.
>Obviously, that really doesn't help matters any especially when you are
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>that it stay clean and people act like adults if they are going to post
>something.

Well, I tried.  I told him about the kittens that get abandoned at our
shelter, the ones that get euthanized at other places, how unfair it is to
put the female cat through heat and pregnancy, etc.  None of that matters.
Apparently I have mental problems (according to this person) because I care
about cats.

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Mary - 04 Feb 2005 18:14 GMT
> >I have seen plenty of name calling on this board as well as put downs.
> >Obviously, that really doesn't help matters any especially when you are
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Apparently I have mental problems (according to this person) because I care
> about cats.

Cheer up, KellyH! Tomorrow is pizza day at the Institution, and after
that we are all going to make little dolls that look just like Slim and
stick pins in them! :)
KellyH - 04 Feb 2005 18:39 GMT
> Cheer up, KellyH! Tomorrow is pizza day at the Institution, and after
> that we are all going to make little dolls that look just like Slim and
> stick pins in them! :)

Yay!  Pizza and vodoo dolls :)
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Slimpickins - 04 Feb 2005 22:04 GMT
> > >I have seen plenty of name calling on this board as well as put downs.
> > >Obviously, that really doesn't help matters any especially when you are
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> that we are all going to make little dolls that look just like Slim and
> stick pins in them! :)

***Showing your maturity again, are we?

ML
Cat Protector - 04 Feb 2005 20:31 GMT
That's all you can do. It is up to him whether he wants to listen or not.

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> Well, I tried.  I told him about the kittens that get abandoned at our
> shelter, the ones that get euthanized at other places, how unfair it is to
> put the female cat through heat and pregnancy, etc.  None of that matters.
> Apparently I have mental problems (according to this person) because I
> care about cats.
Slimpickins - 04 Feb 2005 22:05 GMT
**FYI, I'm a 'her'.

ML

> That's all you can do. It is up to him whether he wants to listen or not.
>
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> > kelly at farringtons dot net
> > "Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG
Slimpickins - 04 Feb 2005 22:03 GMT
**I agree.

ML

> I have seen plenty of name calling on this board as well as put downs.
> Obviously, that really doesn't help matters any especially when you are
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> > kelly at farringtons dot net
> > "Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG
Mary - 04 Feb 2005 18:12 GMT
> > Well we don't know if that is really the case. There are a lot of people
> > on these boards and all of them have differing opinions. As for the Cat
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Well if you read the posts, I and others tried educating, but it didn't
> work.  Now he calling us all extremists and lunatics.

Is it a boy?! Really? With all those caps and hissy fits? NO way!
Mary - 04 Feb 2005 18:10 GMT
> Well we don't know if that is really the case.

READ the thread. This piece of work is all upset because
those of us who care about cats dared to say that it is
wrong for her to breed hers.

> > You really think this guy/girl who intends on breeding his cat would be
> > welcome on any other cat forum?  Would you welcome him/her on Cat Galaxy?
Slimpickins - 04 Feb 2005 16:35 GMT
> > You can block the newsgroup you or simply not read the flaming posts.
> > While I may not be a fan of the flame wars I certainly don't have to read
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> --
> -Kelly

*** Kelly,

On the contrary, it's quite obvious to others here that you, Mary, and a
just few folks often act like total extremist lunatics. HTH.

ML
Mary - 04 Feb 2005 18:11 GMT
> > > You can block the newsgroup you or simply not read the flaming posts.
> > > While I may not be a fan of the flame wars I certainly don't have to
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> On the contrary, it's quite obvious to others here that you, Mary, and a
> just few folks often act like total extremist lunatics. HTH.

Because we say that it is wrong to breed cats when there are so many
dying for lack of homes. Right.
Slimpickins - 04 Feb 2005 22:23 GMT
> > > > You can block the newsgroup you or simply not read the flaming posts.
> > > > While I may not be a fan of the flame wars I certainly don't have to
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Because we say that it is wrong to breed cats when there are so many
> dying for lack of homes. Right.

**Because you cannot make a valid point with out insulting and berating
people Miss 'don't get it'. Go back and learn communications, since you
obviously flunked that course.

ML
Mary - 04 Feb 2005 18:07 GMT
> **No Einstein, I'm not a troll. Just a long time poster and lurker here.
> Tired of the constant verbal abuse some* of the so-called "cat lovers" here
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> name-calling, and gutter talk what it really is...Filth, lies and verbal
> abuse.

So, you're thinking nobody else actually read the thread,
eh? And that CP will not read it? I am laughing at you,
toots. And I am not alone.
Slimpickins - 04 Feb 2005 22:19 GMT
> > **No Einstein, I'm not a troll. Just a long time poster and lurker here.
> > Tired of the constant verbal abuse some* of the so-called "cat lovers"
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> eh? And that CP will not read it? I am laughing at you,
> toots. And I am not alone.

***Sorry, but you can't seem to put a logical sentence together.  You have
no idea what you are talking about, as usual. Gosh, maybe going back to
school to re-learn how to act so people will not want to whip your smart a**
would be a good idea after all.

ML
Mary - 04 Feb 2005 18:04 GMT
> You must be a troller or someone very ignorant about the overpopulation
> problem.

Or one of the many people who act based upon their
own gratification and do not care about what is right and
what is wrong. She has admitted that, CP. She and others like her are the
REASON all those cats are put to death every day. They don't care, as long
as they can see the
fuzzy wuzzy little babies. It nauseates me.

> > ***Oh. You forgot to demand that she MUST adopt from the animal shelter.
> > Where are your morals!? Gee, she must be a cat abuser if she doesn't.
> > Heaven help her if she dares to later mention breeding her cat.
> >
> > ML
Mary - 04 Feb 2005 18:02 GMT
> > > Hi. I would like to adopt a kitten for a family house pet. We have young
> > > children. What breeds are most suitable? I like Siamese, Persians, and
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> ML

Nobody demanded anything of you. Nobody here is stupid enough
to imagine that any of us can do that. These are WORDS, you
single-eyebrowed, cat-abusing lout. Monique and Priscilla asked
you to do the right thing: to not breed your cat. You refuse, so
I'm calling you what you are. Make all the noise you want; that
is still the case and you are NO friend to cats when you have
a choice to do good and you choose to cause more harm.
Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Feb 2005 18:07 GMT
> Nobody demanded anything of you. Nobody here is stupid enough to imagine
> that any of us can do that. These are WORDS, you single-eyebrowed,
> cat-abusing lout. Monique and Priscilla asked you to do the right thing: to
> not breed your cat. You refuse, so I'm calling you what you are. Make all
> the noise you want; that is still the case and you are NO friend to cats
> when you have a choice to do good and you choose to cause more harm.

Hey now.  Please don't insult those with unibrows by associating them with
this person.  There are plenty of nice folks with unibrows.

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Mary - 04 Feb 2005 18:15 GMT
> > Nobody demanded anything of you. Nobody here is stupid enough to imagine
> > that any of us can do that. These are WORDS, you single-eyebrowed,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Hey now.  Please don't insult those with unibrows by associating them with
> this person.  There are plenty of nice folks with unibrows.

*hanging my head* My profound apologies to the Physically Single- Eyebrowed
community. I was speaking more of an attitude.

*snicker*
Slimpickins - 04 Feb 2005 22:12 GMT
> > > > Hi. I would like to adopt a kitten for a family house pet. We have
> young
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> is still the case and you are NO friend to cats when you have
> a choice to do good and you choose to cause more harm.

***Oh get over it! Blah, Blah. You fanatics really act like it's your way or
else!  So are all of your relatives from the middle east too?

ML
KellyH - 04 Feb 2005 22:28 GMT
> ***Oh get over it! Blah, Blah. You fanatics really act like it's your way
> or
> else!  So are all of your relatives from the middle east too?

Wow.  You show your true colors here.
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Mary - 04 Feb 2005 23:52 GMT
> > ***Oh get over it! Blah, Blah. You fanatics really act like it's your way
> > or
> > else!  So are all of your relatives from the middle east too?
>
> Wow.  You show your true colors here.

Yep. There is such a thing as right and wrong. SlimIQ knows that,
too--she knows she is wrong, wrong, wrong, and just cannot stand
to be called on it. Her posting style is highly amusing, though, I have
to admit. Lots of exclamation points, lots of ranting, no refuting the
evidence. It's like if she posts a whole lot she can change the fact that
breeding her cat is wrong. I wonder how people like this can manage
to get both shoes on every day. :)
Cat Protector - 05 Feb 2005 02:16 GMT
How are they fanatics? Because they love cats? I am for having a cat spayed
or neutered as their is a huge overpopulation problem as well as many cat in
the shelters awaiting and needing good and loving homes as a result.

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> ***Oh get over it! Blah, Blah. You fanatics really act like it's your way
> or
> else!  So are all of your relatives from the middle east too?
>
> ML
Slimpickins - 05 Feb 2005 20:00 GMT
*** Look at dictionary under word, "Fanatics".
ML

> How are they fanatics? Because they love cats? I am for having a cat spayed
> or neutered as their is a huge overpopulation problem as well as many cat in
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> >
> > ML
Mary - 05 Feb 2005 20:03 GMT
> *** Look at dictionary under word, "Fanatics".
> ML

1. Not clever. Nobody thinks that people who know that it is wrong to bring
more cats into an overpopulated world are fanatics.
2. Top posting is not adding to your already laughable credibility. HTH.

> > How are they fanatics? Because they love cats? I am for having a cat
> spayed
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> > >
> > > ML
Slimpickins - 05 Feb 2005 21:10 GMT
***Like your opinion suddenly matters to me?!  HAAAA!

ML

> > *** Look at dictionary under word, "Fanatics".
> > ML
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> > > >
> > > > ML
Mary - 05 Feb 2005 21:35 GMT
> ***Like your opinion suddenly matters to me?!  HAAAA!
>
> ML

It is a matter of fact, not opinion. You are merely ranting on and on
about your right to do wrong. You have never once given us any
reason why you think it is the right thing to do to breed your cat.
This has to be because you know it is wrong.
Cat Protector - 06 Feb 2005 01:46 GMT
Slim, I would suggest you leave quietly before this gets any worse for you.

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> *** Look at dictionary under word, "Fanatics".
> ML
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>> >
>> > ML
Mary - 06 Feb 2005 01:54 GMT
> Slim, I would suggest you leave quietly before this gets any worse for you.

CP! Are you taking Ginko Biloba? :-)

By the way, for what it is worth, regardless of our differences, I must say
that everyone knows that you are indeed a friend of cats.
Slimpickins - 06 Feb 2005 17:41 GMT
***Sorry, But I plan on staying since I've been posting here much longer
than any of you.

ML

> Slim, I would suggest you leave quietly before this gets any worse for you.
>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> >> >
> >> > ML
KellyH - 06 Feb 2005 18:13 GMT
> ***Sorry, But I plan on staying since I've been posting here much longer
> than any of you.

Really?  I only remember you popping up a few months ago.  When did you
start posting?  Was it under a different name?

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Mary - 06 Feb 2005 18:15 GMT
> > ***Sorry, But I plan on staying since I've been posting here much longer
> > than any of you.
>
> Really?  I only remember you popping up a few months ago.  When did you
> start posting?  Was it under a different name?

I don't want Slim to leave. We all seem so much more intelligent and
compassionate by comparison.
Priscilla Ballou - 06 Feb 2005 19:08 GMT
> > ***Sorry, But I plan on staying since I've been posting here much longer
> > than any of you.
>
> Really?  I only remember you popping up a few months ago.  When did you
> start posting?  Was it under a different name?

The earliest Google Groups can find for her email address is:
Jun 12 2000, 2:20?pm by Slimpickins

That's only 4.5 years.  Not all that long in comparison to how long some
of the rest of us have been around.  Of course she might have had a
different email address before that.

Priscilla

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Cheryl - 06 Feb 2005 21:19 GMT
> The earliest Google Groups can find for her email address is:
>  Jun 12 2000, 2:20?pm by Slimpickins
>
> That's only 4.5 years.  Not all that long in comparison to how
> long some of the rest of us have been around.  Of course she
> might have had a different email address before that.

Look out Priscilla. Your going to be labeled a netdick. Ah, deja vou.

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Mary - 06 Feb 2005 21:23 GMT
> > The earliest Google Groups can find for her email address is:
> >  Jun 12 2000, 2:20?pm by Slimpickins
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Look out Priscilla. Your going to be labeled a netdick. Ah, deja vou.

Fingers tired from googling, eh Cheryl old girl? Did you finally get
Sherry's joke after I explained it to you? Happy to help out.
:)
Priscilla Ballou - 06 Feb 2005 21:33 GMT
> > The earliest Google Groups can find for her email address is:
> >  Jun 12 2000, 2:20?pm by Slimpickins
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Look out Priscilla. Your going to be labeled a netdick. Ah, deja vou.

"Netdick?"  I don't know that I've run across that term before.  Not to
mention, anything-DICK would really not be appropriate!

Priscilla

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Mary - 06 Feb 2005 21:46 GMT
> > > The earliest Google Groups can find for her email address is:
> > >  Jun 12 2000, 2:20?pm by Slimpickins
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> "Netdick?"  I don't know that I've run across that term before.  Not to
> mention, anything-DICK would really not be appropriate!

LOL! It's short for "net detective." Cheryl is very big on finding out who
everyone who
posts in HER group REALLY IS so that all the old regulars will not be PLAYED
by those who used to post under other names. It is apparently very important
to her.
Cheryl - 06 Feb 2005 22:04 GMT
> "Netdick?"  I don't know that I've run across that term before.
> Not to mention, anything-DICK would really not be appropriate!
>
> Priscilla

Not my word. I was called that for doing just what you just did by
Mary. Not starting anything, just noticing the irony. :)

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Slimpickins - 06 Feb 2005 20:22 GMT
> > ***Sorry, But I plan on staying since I've been posting here much longer
> > than any of you.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> --
> -Kelly

***Same name, always. Try looking at archives beginning around 1998 or
before.

ML
Mary - 06 Feb 2005 18:17 GMT
> ***Sorry, But I plan on staying since I've been posting here much longer
> than any of you.

I never asked you to leave, you miserable, emptyheaded, stump-stupid
piece of cat-abusing sh.t.

Please stay.
Slimpickins - 06 Feb 2005 20:24 GMT
> > ***Sorry, But I plan on staying since I've been posting here much longer
> > than any of you.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Please stay.

***I plan on it, Goober.

ML
Mary - 06 Feb 2005 20:37 GMT
> > I never asked you to leave, you miserable, emptyheaded, stump-stupid
> > piece of cat-abusing sh.t.
> >
> > Please stay.
>
> ***I plan on it, Goober.

Wonderful. We have plenty of examples of what to do; now
we have a permanent example of what not to do.
Cat Protector - 07 Feb 2005 01:12 GMT
Slim, I think it is terrible you are pushing to cause a flame war here. Are
you going for an assclown award or something?

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> ***Sorry, But I plan on staying since I've been posting here much longer
> than any of you.
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>> >> >
>> >> > ML
Mary - 07 Feb 2005 01:53 GMT
> Slim, I think it is terrible you are pushing to cause a flame war here. Are
> you going for an assclown award or something?

LOL!! Assclown? CP!! That's hilarious! What is this? Or did you make it up?
KellyH - 07 Feb 2005 01:55 GMT
> Slim, I think it is terrible you are pushing to cause a flame war here.
> Are you going for an assclown award or something?

Whoa!!  CP, I can't believe it!

Love the term assclown, first heard in my favorite movie "Office Space"

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kitkat - 07 Feb 2005 01:59 GMT
>>Slim, I think it is terrible you are pushing to cause a flame war here.
>>Are you going for an assclown award or something?
>
> Whoa!!  CP, I can't believe it!
>
> Love the term assclown, first heard in my favorite movie "Office Space"

Definitely one of the best words of all time. Another favorite of mine,
which is derivative...is asshat.
Mary - 07 Feb 2005 02:17 GMT
> >>Slim, I think it is terrible you are pushing to cause a flame war here.
> >>Are you going for an assclown award or something?
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> Definitely one of the best words of all time. Another favorite of mine,
> which is derivative...is asshat.

Okay. Should we found the First Annual Rec.pets.hats.health+behav Assclown
Awards?
And if we do, should we put both Slimpickens and "Margaret S." in for
nominations?

Yay, Cat Protector! What a great idea!
KellyH - 07 Feb 2005 02:49 GMT
> Okay. Should we found the First Annual Rec.pets.hats.health+behav Assclown
> Awards?
> And if we do, should we put both Slimpickens and "Margaret S." in for
> nominations?

Love it!  The winner gets to wear The Asshat.  I would have a hard time
choosing between Slim and Margaret S.

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Mary - 07 Feb 2005 03:19 GMT
> > Okay. Should we found the First Annual Rec.pets.hats.health+behav Assclown
> > Awards?
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> Love it!  The winner gets to wear The Asshat.  I would have a hard time
> choosing between Slim and Margaret S.

Me too. I think we need a new thread. :) And maybe a web site. With a great
graphic of the Asshat, and also the statuette the winner of the Assclown
Award
receives. :)
kitkat - 07 Feb 2005 03:33 GMT
>>>Okay. Should we found the First Annual Rec.pets.hats.health+behav
>
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> Award
> receives. :)

http://www.geocities.com/wumbooism/asshat.jpg

http://www.ducttapethings.com/Images/People/asshat.jpg

http://funfreepages.com/albums/classic/asshat.jpg
Mary - 07 Feb 2005 03:39 GMT
> >>>Okay. Should we found the First Annual Rec.pets.hats.health+behav
> >
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>
> http://funfreepages.com/albums/classic/asshat.jpg

hee!
Cat Protector - 07 Feb 2005 04:33 GMT
Well WWE wrestler Chris Jericho used to use it a lot. Then a fellow DJ from
Canada that has an internet radio station also used to use it and had an
assclown award which he later retired. I guess it is a popular term with
Canadians.

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> Whoa!!  CP, I can't believe it!
>
> Love the term assclown, first heard in my favorite movie "Office Space"
Mary - 07 Feb 2005 14:36 GMT
> Well WWE wrestler Chris Jericho used to use it a lot. Then a fellow DJ from
> Canada that has an internet radio station also used to use it and had an
> assclown award which he later retired. I guess it is a popular term with
> Canadians.

Well it's very funny. :)
Mary - 04 Feb 2005 17:51 GMT
> Hi. I would like to adopt a kitten for a family house pet. We have
> young children. What breeds are most suitable? I like Siamese,
> Persians, and Manx. Any others to consider?

You bet! The All-American Mixed Breed! Waiting at a shelter
near you! You can get one that has already passed kittenhood,
so no pesky curtain-Climbing. If you take one that has been
at the shelter for a while, say a few months or so, then the
shelter personnel can tell you all about it's temperament,
and you won't have to gamble. You want a laidback,
gentle kitty that is nevertheless not too shy to deal with
kids. Best of all, your kitty will come altered and with a
clean bill of health from the vet. (And it won't cost $600,
more like $100.) There are sometimes even purebred
cats like Persians, Manxes, and Siamese at your
local shelters. Good luck!

(Why were your followups set to camera and
photo sites?)
BarB - 04 Feb 2005 19:10 GMT
>Hi. I would like to adopt a kitten for a family house pet. We have
>young children. What breeds are most suitable? I like Siamese,
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>
>Lisa

I would normally consider anyone who posted to one group and set
followups to another, to be a troll. Why were followups set to
rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.equipment.35mm ?

To answer the question, Siamese are generally more active than
Persians, but cats can differ so widely within a breed that it is
usually only the breeder or the person fostering the cat who can tell
its personality and they may guess wrong with a kitten. Some are shy
and some are quite outgoing and can deal with kids and dogs. Do you
have active kids who want to run and play with the cat or do you have
a quiet child who wants a lapcat to cuddle? Take the kids to meet the
cat and see how they do.  

BarB
Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Feb 2005 20:11 GMT
> Take the kids to meet the cat and see how they do.  

This is a good point.  While I was looking for a home for Eros, I invited a
friend of mine to meet him.  Her kids just didn't care for Eros, even though
anyone who'd met him could tell you he was a wonderful cat.  They recently
adopted a different cat, and for some reason the kids are nuts about this cat
and the arrangement works very well for all concerned.  Both cats are the same
age ... *shrug*

Kids are fickle.  Make sure they want the particular animal.

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zuzu22@webtv.net - 04 Feb 2005 19:28 GMT
>I would like to adopt a kitten for a family
>house pet. We have young children. What
>breeds are most suitable? I like Siamese,
>Persians, and Manx. Any others to
>consider?

You didn't say how young your children are, and if they are 5 or younger
you may want to wait until they are a little older before adopting.
Young children and kittens are not a good combination as young children
can hurt kittens with rough handling. It's important to teach children
that animals are not toys and must never be roughly held, hit, etc. etc.
If you are commited to only allowing the cat and the children to be
together when supervised, and are willing to instill in your children
the importance of gentle handling, then your best bet is to adopt an
adult cat- that is known to be good with children- through a foster
based rescue. Many foster people have children and, since they actually
live with the cats up for adoption, they know their temperaments and how
they react to different situations. This is the ideal way to find a cat
that is a match for your family.

There is no "magic" breed that's good for kids, and choosing a cat based
on looks is not conducive to getting the results you want. Buying from a
breeder also means you'll have contributed to the overpopulation problem
and the death of a rescued cat. There are x amount of available homes,
and xxxxxxxxxxxx number of rescue cats waiting for those homes, so
adopting a rescue cat will mean a cat in need gets a home, one less cat
dies and it will make room for one more cat to be saved.

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Rene S. - 04 Feb 2005 21:01 GMT
<You didn't say how young your children are, and if they are 5 or
younger
you may want to wait until they are a little older before adopting.>

Megan makes a good point, but young children and cats are not always a
negative situation. I grew up with cats and learned very early that
animals have feelings and you must treat them kindly. And, if kitty
needs time alone, a child must respect that. But, it's up to the
parents to constantly show by example and verbal reminders.

I'd either visit a foster-based rescue or visit a shelter and see
what's available. You can discuss your needs and family environment,
and they can match you up. A *good* shelter/rescue will require *all*
members of the family to be present before allowing adoption, to make
sure everyone is compatible. Don't be offended by this; they're trying
to prevent an animal from being returned to them by doing their
homework ahead of time.

Rene
asylumboss - 05 Feb 2005 01:59 GMT
> >I would like to adopt a kitten for a family
> >house pet. We have young children. What
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>
> Megan

I think adopting is a great idea- but if you are talking about
purebreds- I have two bengals and they are both EXCELLENT with kids-
in fact they come down to play with them and hang out with them when
my friend's kids come over. On the other hand, my big fat tabby goes
to hide. My grey DSH used to take 'em or leave 'em, preferrable leave
them as he got older. I heard that Bengals are typically great with
kids. They aren't cheap, but sometimes you can rescue them. My friend
rescued a Turkish Van and he also is really good with kids. Good luck!
Cheryl - 05 Feb 2005 18:53 GMT
> I think adopting is a great idea- but if you are talking about
> purebreds- I have two bengals and they are both EXCELLENT with
> kids- in fact they come down to play with them and hang out with
> them when my friend's kids come over.

My DSH Shamrock LOVES playing with kids. He is very happy when my 5
year old twin niece and nephew come over to stay for a weekend. He'll
even sleep with them. :)

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edward ohare - 05 Feb 2005 20:18 GMT
>There is no "magic" breed that's good for kids, and choosing a cat based
>on looks is not conducive to getting the results you want.

Yes.  Whatever cat is selected, there's no guarantee it will like the
kids.  Better, I think, to start with a young adult cat than a kitten,
where a better evaluation can be made of its personality.
Mary - 05 Feb 2005 20:47 GMT
> >There is no "magic" breed that's good for kids, and choosing a cat based
> >on looks is not conducive to getting the results you want.
>
> Yes.  Whatever cat is selected, there's no guarantee it will like the
> kids.  Better, I think, to start with a young adult cat than a kitten,
> where a better evaluation can be made of its personality.

This is such good advice. When I was ready to adopt another cat
after my 20 year old died, I went to the shelter and met all of them,
then came back and met them again, and talked to the staff about
what our living situation was. I had my eye on a tortoiseshell cat
who was following me around--a really rambunctious boy, so cute,
his whole face saying "take me, take ME!" But then a tiny gray
tabby caught my eye, and leaned into my hand when I approached
where she lay in a donut bed. After talking to the staff, we concluded
that Cheeky was a better bet for us because the tortie loved the
company of other cats and kids and was very active, whereas
Cheeky was a loner and very gentle. (We live quietly, no kids,
scholarly pursuits.) Cheeky was the perfect choice. It is three
years later and I have never been happier with a cat.

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