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CatKB.com? Alternative for AOL users?

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Candace - 04 Feb 2005 03:24 GMT
Hmmm, remember how some of us were discussing AOL dropping newsgroups?
And what AOL users could do as an alternative?  Of course, there's
Google groups, from which I'm currently posting but I began noticing a
few days ago people posting via CatKB.com and checked it out.
Although, I'm currently posting from Google, CatKB.com looks like an
easier way to read and post.  Is it something new?  As far as I can
tell, it carries all of rpchb and rpca as well as a couple of others.
So, maybe this is an option for those of us on AOL who, for whatever
reason, are deciding to stay with AOL for the time being.  It also
seems to hide one's email address, which can be beneficial, I suppose.

Candace

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection -from an
eye other
than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Mary - 04 Feb 2005 03:29 GMT
> Hmmm, remember how some of us were discussing AOL dropping newsgroups?
> And what AOL users could do as an alternative?  Of course, there's
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> reason, are deciding to stay with AOL for the time being.  It also
> seems to hide one's email address, which can be beneficial, I suppose.

Check out some of the posts from folks via CATKB. Especially in
alt. cats. :) And if you do decide to use it, I know you will include
a snippet of the text to which you are replying, so we will know
who you are talking to.
Cheryl - 04 Feb 2005 03:30 GMT
> Hmmm, remember how some of us were discussing AOL dropping
> newsgroups? And what AOL users could do as an alternative?  Of
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> deciding to stay with AOL for the time being.  It also seems to
> hide one's email address, which can be beneficial, I suppose.

I think it looks like a good alternative if you don't want to set
up a regular news reader. It's been so long since I'd used AOL that
I couldn't remember if it let you hit the net on an interface other
than what they give you, I don't even know if you can configure a
news reader. No one seems to be doing it, so maybe you can't. Tell
me, can you open up Internet Explorer to browse the internet?

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Cheryl

Candace - 04 Feb 2005 03:39 GMT
Yes, I have IE in addition to AOL's browser so I generally use that as
it's faster.  One could also open AOL's browser, though, and go to any
of those places.  It's a regular browser, it just doesn't work as well
as IE.

Candace

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection -from an
eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)
Cheryl - 04 Feb 2005 03:56 GMT
> Yes, I have IE in addition to AOL's browser so I generally use
> that as it's faster.  One could also open AOL's browser, though,
> and go to any of those places.  It's a regular browser, it just
> doesn't work as well as IE.

So then there are no restrictions with the AOL service to run other
net-reliant software. You could easily install a newsreader like
Xnews, or use Outlook Express (not recommended) and configure
news.individual.net news provider (or another, though individual.net
is reliable and free).

I'm just really curious if this would work. No one seems to be
willing to try.  

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Cheryl

Candace - 04 Feb 2005 05:19 GMT
<<You could easily install a newsreader like
Xnews, or use Outlook Express (not recommended) and configure
news.individual.net news provider (or another, though individual.net
is reliable and free).>>

It seems as though there was some mac related issue when I looked at
it, I'll look again but it seems it wasn't compatible with the
particular operating system I have.  I'm not overly computer-savvy, I
mean I know how to use a lot of different programs but this technical
stuff isn't my forte.

Candace

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection -from an
eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)
Cathy Friedmann - 04 Feb 2005 04:42 GMT
Yes, I have IE in addition to AOL's browser so I generally use that as
it's faster.  One could also open AOL's browser, though, and go to any
of those places.  It's a regular browser, it just doesn't work as well
as IE.

Candace

I may be totally "off" - never having had AOL, but if you have IE installed,
then can you use OE (even though some people hate it - but it doesn't bother
me) as a newsreader, along with a news server such as individual.net - which
is a freebie?

Cathy
Candace - 04 Feb 2005 05:15 GMT
<< may be totally "off" - never having had AOL, but if you have IE
installed,
then can you use OE (even though some people hate it - but it doesn't
bother
me) as a newsreader, along with a news server such as individual.net -
which
is a freebie?

Cathy>>

Actually, I have a mac at home and I don't have OE, I have something
similar called Entourage (part of the mac MS Office Suite) but I don't
use it.  I guess I could try to figure it out...I never had any reason
to do so...The news servers I looked at a couple of weks ago didn't
seem to have mac versions.

Candace

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection -from an
eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)
Karen Chuplis - 04 Feb 2005 05:34 GMT
> << may be totally "off" - never having had AOL, but if you have IE
> installed,
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>
> Candace

I just put Outlook Express over on the Classic 9 side and use it with
individual net. Otherwise there are newsreaders for Mac that you can use,
but everyone I have tried is a pain. I think I just got too used to OE.
Besides, I like to be able to check email while newsgrouping.
jamie - 05 Feb 2005 02:09 GMT
> Actually, I have a mac at home and I don't have OE, I have something
> similar called Entourage (part of the mac MS Office Suite) but I don't
> use it.  I guess I could try to figure it out...I never had any reason
> to do so...The news servers I looked at a couple of weks ago didn't
> seem to have mac versions.

The Mac users I know on other newsgroups use MacSoup or Thoth or
Hogwasher as newsreaders.  They are all shareware with trial periods,
and I think there are a few freeware ones for the Mac at download.com

For a free account at news.individual.net, you would set them up
with  news.individual.net   as the NNTP server,
and the same SMTP (outgoing) mail server that you use for your
regular email.

HTH

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Hodge - 05 Feb 2005 02:36 GMT
> > Actually, I have a mac at home and I don't have OE, I have something
> > similar called Entourage (part of the mac MS Office Suite) but I don't
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> Hogwasher as newsreaders.  They are all shareware with trial periods,
> and I think there are a few freeware ones for the Mac at download.com

I've used Entourage, MT-Newswatcher, and YA-Newswatcher for Mac.
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Cheryl - 05 Feb 2005 03:25 GMT
>> Actually, I have a mac at home and I don't have OE, I have
>> something similar called Entourage (part of the mac MS Office
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>
> HTH

I walked someone tonight through the process using individual.net.
Do you know what the actual SMTP address for AOL is though? Like,
is it smtp.aol.com, or mail.aol.com, or what?  Their software would
come preconfigured and who knows if you can even find it to enter
it into another software package? I suppose one could always just
C&P text from a news reader into AOLs email client to email someone
personally... it'd be easier to keep it all in one place.

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PawsForThought - 04 Feb 2005 13:31 GMT
>From: Cheryl jlhshadow@nospamhotmail.com

>I couldn't remember if it let you hit the net on an interface other
>than what they give you, I don't even know if you can configure a
>news reader. No one seems to be doing it, so maybe you can't. Tell
>me, can you open up Internet Explorer to browse the internet?

I have AOL and can open IE and I have also tried Firefox which works fine.  As
far as a newsreader, I did try one but couldn't ever get it configured to work.
There has to be one though that works with AOL.  We have SBC Yahoo DSL at work.
Now I should be able to use a newsreader with that, right?  The whole
newsreader thing is something new for me.
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Holly - 04 Feb 2005 15:40 GMT
I was using cat.KB to post until I found Google the other day. I liked
everything about it except that it is moderated so they tend to delete
somethings.
PawsForThought - 04 Feb 2005 16:08 GMT
>From: "Holly" htunnell@mwcarchitects.com

>I was using cat.KB to post until I found Google the other day. I liked
>everything about it except that it is moderated so they tend to delete
>somethings.

I didn't know it was moderated.  think I might have to go back to Google once
AOL is gone for good.
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See my cats:  http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
Mike - 04 Feb 2005 16:57 GMT
It is not moderated in the terms of Usenet when you send a message and need
to wait till the administartor approves it. CatKB just removes spam.
PawsForThought - 04 Feb 2005 18:04 GMT
>From: "Mike via CatKB.com" forum@CatKB.com

>It is not moderated in the terms of Usenet when you send a message and need
>to wait till the administartor approves it. CatKB just removes spam.

Oh good.  Nothing wrong with removing spam.  I just don't like being moderated.
Had enough of that with AOL.

Lauren
________
See my cats:  http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
Mary - 04 Feb 2005 18:08 GMT
> >From: "Holly" htunnell@mwcarchitects.com
>
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> AOL is gone for good.
> ________

Don't wait that long! Get a new ISP and be FREEEEEE! :)
PawsForThought - 04 Feb 2005 13:29 GMT
>From: "Candace" maccandace@aol.com

>And what AOL users could do as an alternative?  

I have made a couple of posts through CatKB and I like it better than Google
Groups.  I just wish they had something like it for my law groups and my
computer techie groups.

Lauren
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See my cats:  http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
Holly - 04 Feb 2005 16:21 GMT
PawsForThought
There are alot of computer forums out there that are easly accesed through
the website itself. The post are instant and I have found alot of
information and conversation. I could point you to a few if you let me know
what you are looking for. I to am a computer programmer/webmaster.
My email is htunnellRemove this @mwcsarchitects.com
MacCandace - 05 Feb 2005 02:04 GMT
<< I have made a couple of posts through CatKB and I like it better than Google
Groups. >>

Yes, Google is do-able and all but it's a bit cumbersome.  I haven't posted
from CatKB but it looks as though it would be easier and it also reads easier
than Google, I think.  Is it new?  I only recently noticed people posting from
there.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human."  (Loren Eisely)

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