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Ann - 01 Feb 2005 21:55 GMT
Sam was a rescue cat and is now enjoying the run of the house.  The problem
is with my other 2 cats. One of them hates Sam.  Cinnamon will growl or hiss
at him every time she sees him. This has been going on for more than 6
weeks. He is 7 months old and just wants to be friends with his "sisters".
Abby is starting to warm up to Sam and I think they will be friends soon.
Does any one have any suggestions to help Cinnamon?
Ann
Karen Chuplis - 02 Feb 2005 00:16 GMT
> Sam was a rescue cat and is now enjoying the run of the house.  The problem
> is with my other 2 cats. One of them hates Sam.  Cinnamon will growl or hiss
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> Does any one have any suggestions to help Cinnamon?
> Ann

Broken record again, but have you tried Feliway? Also, anytime there is an
aggression, fetch out some treats or a toy to distract them. This does
wonders if you can do it *right away* as soon as any confrontation seems
about to happen. If you can catch it before it actually happens, they can
come to associate good things in being together.
Ann - 02 Feb 2005 01:32 GMT
I did try the Feliway spray. I didn't help any.  I do use toys to distract
Sam if he is bothering Cinnamon ( he is only trying to get her to
play).Cinnamon is about 8 years old and does play but is not as easy to
distract as Sam.
Ann

> on 2/1/05 3:55 PM:
>
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> about to happen. If you can catch it before it actually happens, they can
> come to associate good things in being together.
MrAVenez - 02 Feb 2005 03:23 GMT
You know, sometimes, no matter what you do, cats will just hate eachother for
no reason. We have had Bandit for about 13 years, and when Blackie showed up on
our doorstep we prayed that they would get along. Now, 3 years later, they
still despise eachother. They hiss and make those low pitched growling noises
when they happen to walk near eachother.

At this point, there is probably nothing we can do. Normally, they avoid
eachother, but do have a strange habit of sleeping on opposite ends of the same
bed. As long as your cats aren't hurting themselves, I wouldn't worry about
it...
Cheryl - 02 Feb 2005 04:06 GMT
> You know, sometimes, no matter what you do, cats will just hate
> eachother for no reason. We have had Bandit for about 13 years,
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> opposite ends of the same bed. As long as your cats aren't
> hurting themselves, I wouldn't worry about it...

And sometimes you have cats who used to get along and were best
buds until you added new cats. I have Shamrock (who is a very high-
strung cat) who adores the new kittens (2) but now seems to hate
her former bud Bonnie. I've also run out of ideas and positive
reinforcement. Nothing works with him. You can see his emotion
change in his eyes when he sees her. Any distress he feels about
anything, he takes out on her. I've had to go back to separation
with these two (he's great with the kittens so they stay with him
during the day).

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MrAVenez - 03 Feb 2005 02:13 GMT
Cheryl,

Thats very sad.. My situation is a bit different from yours, but my advice is
to just take time to make each of the cats feel special. It doesn't take much
with my cats, just a good ear scratching and a kiss is all it takes sometimes..
Cheryl - 04 Feb 2005 00:43 GMT
> Cheryl,
>
> Thats very sad.. My situation is a bit different from yours, but
> my advice is to just take time to make each of the cats feel
> special. It doesn't take much with my cats, just a good ear
> scratching and a kiss is all it takes sometimes..

That's great! Whatever works.:)  As for situations being different,
I've found from this and groups like it, that sometimes situations
that are only slightly similar can provide answers, or at least
something to ponder, and try to apply it in a different way to my
own situation.

As for what I posted (my separation tactic during this adjustment
phase between the two adults and the two kittens) is probably very
wrong. I said that I put Shamrock (the bully) downstairs with the
kittens during the day while I'm at work, leaving Bonnie, the kitty
being beat up by the bully, upstairs by herself. It was suggested
to me to try leaving Shamrock downstairs without the kittens
because he is probably feeling some ownership of them, and maybe
feels the need to protect them from Bonnie. By leaving them with
her, it might improve their relationship, and not reinforce to
Shamrock that the kittens are *his*, thus needing defending. I
dunno, makes sense and I'm giving it a try. Today I used this
tactic and it worked out ok so far. I'll give it time.

Good luck with your kitties!

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Karen Chuplis - 04 Feb 2005 02:56 GMT
>> Cheryl,
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>
> Good luck with your kitties!

Interesting. You might switch them off and on regularly, just like you do
while introducing. Please let us know how it goes.
Cheryl - 04 Feb 2005 03:01 GMT
> Interesting. You might switch them off and on regularly, just
> like you do while introducing. Please let us know how it goes.

I will Karen. Tonight is a lot better. I have been keeping Shamrock
in my room at night so that he gets all of my attention then, even if
its while sleeping. He likes staying with me, and Bonnie seems to be
gaining some confidence not having to be on the defensive all the
time. Shamrock has only gone after her once tonight. It's hard
because I can't tell if it's play, but Bonnie clearly seems upset by
the chasing, so to play it safe I'm going to do this for a while.
Luckily, the kittens have each other so they don't seem fazed either
way.

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Candace - 04 Feb 2005 03:35 GMT
Wow, Cheryl, what a drag.  I hope it works out.  I'm still status quo
with our 3.  Scottie and Abbey still hide when Marbles is out yet are
braver.  Last night we went out to dinner leaving them all
together...well, meaning Marbles was not confined.  We do this often as
Marbles will not go under the futon after Scottie and Abbey and they
stay there as long as he is out (generally 3 hours or so on
weeknights).  Well, apparently Marbles was in the living room sleeping
or being quiet and Scottie must have thought he was back in his room
confined.  He left his safe spot in the family room and went into the
living room, we assume, whereupon Marbles must have ambushed him as,
when we got home, there were tufts of orange fur (Scottie's fur) all
over the living room along with Scottie's collar.  Lately, Scottie and
Abbey come right out after Marbles is put back into his room but last
night Scottie was a little reticent to come out.  He did come out after
an hour or so but, sigh, we've had yet another setback, I guess.
Scottie was just starting to get braver and now this.  We're in month
7...and we never find tufts of Marbles' fur, I guess Scottie doesn't
fight back at all.

Candace

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection -from an
eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)
Cheryl - 04 Feb 2005 04:02 GMT
> Wow, Cheryl, what a drag.  I hope it works out.  I'm still
> status quo with our 3.  Scottie and Abbey still hide when
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> month 7...and we never find tufts of Marbles' fur, I guess
> Scottie doesn't fight back at all.

Candace, I find tufts of black fur everywhere, too. That's why I
finally went to separating Shamrock from Bonnie. They don't all get
along. And sometimes it takes going back time and time again to
help them co-exist. Then there is your situation.  I'm so proud of
you for sticking with it. It must be so hard. I know how much you
wanted a new kitty after Cory died.

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/watching her whole pride of cats going totally insane now since
it's late, and that's when they all come alive to play

Karen Chuplis - 04 Feb 2005 05:15 GMT
> Wow, Cheryl, what a drag.  I hope it works out.  I'm still status quo
> with our 3.  Scottie and Abbey still hide when Marbles is out yet are
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> eye other
> than human."  (Loren Eisely)

Well, you know how they positively SHOOT out hair when you go to the vet?
Scottie is the one being scared, so it stands to reason. I really hope they
can come around eventually. I mean, I bet they will never be friends, but
eventually Marbles will quit that one would think.
Candace - 04 Feb 2005 05:29 GMT
<<Well, you know how they positively SHOOT out hair when you go to the
vet?
Scottie is the one being scared, so it stands to reason. I really hope
they
can come around eventually. I mean, I bet they will never be friends,
but
eventually Marbles will quit that one would think.>>

That's true about the fur but there must have been some contact since
Scottie's collar was laying there amidst the fur.  Soon, I hope, we
will have another room built onto our house and, for some reason, I am
thinking that will make it better.  It will at least give Marbles 3
rooms to be locked up in instead of 2 like now and it seems like it
will be easier to switch the cats around so some nights Scottie and
Abbey can sleep with us.  Right now, Marbles sleeps with us every
night, it's just too complicated to switch them around with the layout
of our house.  Of course, this room was supposed to have been built for
the last 5 years but I'm really hoping this spring will be the time.  I
may be wrong about it making life easier but that's my hope right
now...gotta have some hope.

Candace

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection -from an
eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)

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