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Cat Scratches can be a pain in the a.s

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Brian Link - 28 Jan 2005 23:24 GMT
So I broke up a fight a few days ago in exactly the wrong way, but
grabbing one of the pugilists with my bare hands. Intellect gave way
to emotion, I guess. Henry got me really good on my hand, a really
deep claw-puncture. Mistake #1, don't grab fighting cats. They tend to
lose track of who they're killing, and will happily turn to killing
you. Maybe this is some evolutionary strategy for late-night bar
fights, where your opponent's buddies may show up and try to
sucker-punch you.

I ignored it for a couple days, as I have all my various cat-maulings
over the decades. However, this one started hurting. Then my hand
started getting red and warm and really sore. Mistake #2. Cats have a
few incredibly nasty bacteria that like to hang out with them. These
bacteria can easily send you to the hospital, maim or even kill you.

Okay, so great. I've got an infection. Tried to schedule an
appointment and they said they were all full, but given the nature of
the injury I should come in and wait for an opening.

So I went to the doctor and waited 3 1/2 hours. He came in, took one
look and proceeded to give me a drivers-ed-video version of the
possible consequences of cat maul infections. I nodded my head - yes,
yes, I know all this.

As expected he gave me some oral antibiotics. But he thought I should
get an injection too, just to be safe. So I waited another hour, and
to my delight two very attractive nurses came bouncing in and
announced they were going to give me my shot!

I started rolling up my sleeves, and one said, "no, in your butt.".

Great.

So now I'm back home, my day is shot, my hand still hurts, I get to
worry about being hospitalized for weeks with doctors scraping
poisonous cat venom out of my hand, and now my a.s hurts, too.

(Oh, and the cats? Despite dislodging a pillow-case's worth of fur
from one another, they emerged without a scratch.)

Sometimes it sucks to love cats. Mostly it sucks to love cats and do
stupid things like grabbing them when they're in a blind berserker
rage attempting to disembowel each other.

Ow. I think I'll lay down for a while. On my stomach.

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Ashley - 28 Jan 2005 23:36 GMT
> So I broke up a fight a few days ago in exactly the wrong way, but

> Ow. I think I'll lay down for a while. On my stomach.

LOL! A delightful, cautionary tale. May I recommend that if those
antibiotics don't say "Avoid Alcohol" on the front, you pour yourself a
stiff drink as compensation as well?

And just before I get flamed by those who believe the myth that all alcohol
is contraindicated with any antibiotics, stop and read:

http://xtramsn.co.nz/health/0,,8089-2495043,00.html

http://www.gpnotebook.co.uk/cache/-946208714.htm

http://www.drweil.com/u/QA/QA326593/
Monique Y. Mudama - 29 Jan 2005 01:22 GMT
> So now I'm back home, my day is shot, my hand still hurts, I get to worry
> about being hospitalized for weeks with doctors scraping poisonous cat venom
> out of my hand, and now my a.s hurts, too.

Yes, but at least you got to expose yourself to two attractive and bouncy
nurses!  I mean, how often do you get to do that?

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Meghan Noecker - 29 Jan 2005 01:26 GMT
>Sometimes it sucks to love cats. Mostly it sucks to love cats and do
>stupid things like grabbing them when they're in a blind berserker
>rage attempting to disembowel each other.

Great storytelling.

I hope your hand feels better soon. I haven't had any infections yet,
but I have been known to break up a fight in the wrong way, but I
can't help it. Kira uses me as a shield, so I wake up in the dark with
a cat fight on top of me, and all I can do is hope to fling them in
different directions. I have had cat claws in my face and in my ear.

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Mary - 29 Jan 2005 02:26 GMT
> So I broke up a fight a few days ago in exactly the wrong way, but
> grabbing one of the pugilists with my bare hands.

The first time I did it, one of the cats sprayed IN MY FACE. That
would be the last time, too.
Meghan Noecker - 29 Jan 2005 06:18 GMT
>> So I broke up a fight a few days ago in exactly the wrong way, but
>> grabbing one of the pugilists with my bare hands.
>
>The first time I did it, one of the cats sprayed IN MY FACE. That
>would be the last time, too.

The first week I had Jenny (the rescued and *not* housebroken dog), I
caught her peeing in my room. I had this stupid idea that if I caught
her, she would stop and then finish outside. So, I picked her up to
haul her outside. There I was with pee running down my nightshirt and
leg. I never did that again. Dumb human :)

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Sherry - 29 Jan 2005 06:43 GMT
>Sometimes it sucks to love cats. Mostly it sucks to love cats and do
>stupid things like grabbing them when they're in a blind berserker
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>
>BLink

Awww. Sorry. I know what you mean though. I don't have much of a reaction to
scratches, but every, single time I've gotten bitten, it turned nasty and
required antibiotics.

Sherry
Hodge - 29 Jan 2005 15:33 GMT
> Awww. Sorry. I know what you mean though. I don't have much of a reaction to
> scratches, but every, single time I've gotten bitten, it turned nasty and
> required antibiotics.

I am sooooo lucky in this regard.

Maybe next week I'll post a link to a photo of my bitten leg.
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Kalyahna - 01 Feb 2005 16:56 GMT
> >Sometimes it sucks to love cats. Mostly it sucks to love cats and do
> >stupid things like grabbing them when they're in a blind berserker
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>
> Sherry

I've developed a fear of shaving cats ever since we tried to do a VERY
matted cat a favor and clip him while he was conscious. He managed to snag
my hand with his claws, and when I tried to remove the claws, he got in
about four bites between the two hands. Four shots (tetanus and three of
rosefin (sp?)) - tetanus in my shoulder, and the antibiotics in my a.s and
then both hips. I couldn't move my left wrist - one of the bites was very
close to the bone and swelled up, and my right index finger was punctured
just behind the second knuckle - couldn't move it properly for weeks,
couldn't bend it completely for months. Still hurts when it's cold. And this
was in June.
Lynn - 29 Jan 2005 08:48 GMT
lol...very funny story about a not so funny incident. Cat scratches can do some nasty damage. A couple of weeks ago my indoor baby managed to slither out the front door late at night as I opened the door to break up a fight between two neighborhood cats. He tried to get away to run with the big boys but mommy had other plans. I was sure if he got away I'd never see him again. I managed to grab him as he bounded over a snowbank after the two fighting toms. My hand was so bruised and swollen from the punctures from his nails that I couldn't use it at all for several days. Two weeks later I'm still wearing bandaids! A small price to pay for hanging on to my first born!
---MIKE--- - 29 Jan 2005 13:22 GMT
Whenever I get a scratch or bite, I immediately put peroxide on it and
try to squeeze blood out of it.  If it looks deep I then put antibiotic
ointment on it.

                 ---MIKE---
Diane L. Schirf - 29 Jan 2005 15:34 GMT
> Whenever I get a scratch or bite, I immediately put peroxide on it and
> try to squeeze blood out of it.

Nursing manuals recommend strongly against peroxide; it has little
antibiotic effect, and it can get into the bloodstream, which can be
ugly.

I wash and use Neosporin or equivalent.

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jmc - 30 Jan 2005 18:30 GMT
>>Whenever I get a scratch or bite, I immediately put peroxide on it and
>>try to squeeze blood out of it.
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>
> I wash and use Neosporin or equivalent.

I used to use neosporin, but found that tea tree oil, neat, actually
works better.  YMMV.

jmc
Hodge - 30 Jan 2005 19:28 GMT
> >>Whenever I get a scratch or bite, I immediately put peroxide on it and
> >>try to squeeze blood out of it.
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> I used to use neosporin, but found that tea tree oil, neat, actually
> works better.  YMMV.

As long as it's not peroxide!
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Mary - 30 Jan 2005 21:46 GMT
> > >>Whenever I get a scratch or bite, I immediately put peroxide on it and
> > >>try to squeeze blood out of it.
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>
> As long as it's not peroxide!

You know that this does not ring true with many because
their mothers used it, their grandmothers used it, and nothing bad
happened, right? Just like today's "don't put STUFFING INSIDE
the BIRD" nonsense. People have done it for centuries with no
ill effects. With peroxide, I no longer use it as a mouthwash
as my dentist convinced me that it actually sloughs off gum
tissue--but I still do use it on minor cuts, and it still prevents
infection.
---MIKE--- - 30 Jan 2005 23:33 GMT
Diane, I checked google and it seems peroxide IS recommended as an
antiseptic.  Some doctors even recommended ingesting FOOD GRADE (35% -
NOT the 3% you buy in the drug store) to treat certain ailments.

                 ---MIKE---
Rhonda - 29 Jan 2005 17:50 GMT
We do that, too. We have really, really big bottles of peroxide from
Sam's Club.

By the way, anyone else have cat scars down your wrist that looks like
you once tried to slit your own wrists? That can be a bit embarrassing
at times.

Rhonda

> Whenever I get a scratch or bite, I immediately put peroxide on it and
> try to squeeze blood out of it.  If it looks deep I then put antibiotic
> ointment on it.
>
>                   ---MIKE---
---MIKE--- - 29 Jan 2005 19:09 GMT
I'm not sure of this but I suspect that peroxide weakens after the
bottle has been opened.  For that reason, I would rather buy several
small bottles at Walmart.

                 ---MIKE---
Meghan Noecker - 30 Jan 2005 09:28 GMT
>We do that, too. We have really, really big bottles of peroxide from
>Sam's Club.
>
>By the way, anyone else have cat scars down your wrist that looks like
>you once tried to slit your own wrists? That can be a bit embarrassing
>at times.

I do, but they faded into the normal wrinkles, so I have to look
really hard to see them.

The first day at work though was embarrassing. I had guaze wrapped all
the way around my wrist. I had to keep explaining over and over.

By the way, even if the directions say to spray the flea spray
directly on the cat, don't do it. Or at least, don't be the person
holding the cat.

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Ashley - 30 Jan 2005 09:30 GMT
> By the way, even if the directions say to spray the flea spray
> directly on the cat, don't do it. Or at least, don't be the person
> holding the cat.

I learned very early on in my cats' life that if something has to be
delivered by spray, and there is no alternative, it will not be delivered.
As it is, I have to take one by complete surprise just to get the Advantage
on him!
Brian Link - 15 Feb 2005 09:12 GMT
>>We do that, too. We have really, really big bottles of peroxide from
>>Sam's Club.
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>directly on the cat, don't do it. Or at least, don't be the person
>holding the cat.

Our first stray, Howard, got into a fight with Tiger (who was only 2)
when a cat was strolling outside our porch. I got in the middle of the
fight, and still have the scars of Howard's teeth in my wrist.

He was the best kitty I think I've ever had, and I have the most
bizarre reaction to seeing those tooth-marks. He died of a mysterious
cat disease five years ago, but he'll be with me till I die because of
his cat-tattoo. Good ol' Howard..

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Cheryl - 31 Jan 2005 01:45 GMT
> By the way, anyone else have cat scars down your wrist that
> looks like you once tried to slit your own wrists? That can be a
> bit embarrassing at times.

I have scars on most of my arms and hands. Light ones, mind you, and
you wouldn't even notice them except maybe during the summer when I
get tan. Now though, I'm getting scars on my ankles and lower legs
from Shamrock over the last 3 years. He's an ankle-biter and leg-
swatter.

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Rhonda - 29 Jan 2005 17:18 GMT
Very good story. Sorry you had to be hurt to entertain us.

The nurses were attractive, but you were unhappy to drop your drawers?
That's the part I don't get.

Hope your hand is better. To cheer you up more, I know a vet tech who
received a nasty cat bite. I think the main bacteria culprit in their
mouths is pasteurella, but there're probably a ton of others. She ended
up in the hospital with an infection, recovered from the bite, but then
got a staph infection in the other arm from the IV.

Just to cheer you.

Good luck.

Rhonda

> Ow. I think I'll lay down for a while. On my stomach.
>
> BLink
Mary - 29 Jan 2005 19:33 GMT
> Very good story. Sorry you had to be hurt to entertain us.
>
> The nurses were attractive, but you were unhappy to drop your drawers?
> That's the part I don't get.

He just didn't like what he was dropping them for! ;)
Meghan Noecker - 30 Jan 2005 09:30 GMT
>Hope your hand is better. To cheer you up more, I know a vet tech who
>received a nasty cat bite. I think the main bacteria culprit in their
>mouths is pasteurella, but there're probably a ton of others. She ended
>up in the hospital with an infection, recovered from the bite, but then
>got a staph infection in the other arm from the IV.

I have a bad fear of needles. I finally gave in and got blood test for
chlorestorol. That went okay, only to find out that I am horribly
allergic to their bandaids.  I had to wear guaze around my elbow for 2
weeks because of the reaction.

Next time, I take my own bandaid.

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John Ross Mc Master - 30 Jan 2005 17:18 GMT
Scratching is a sign of your cat's love. I'm well-loved.

>So I broke up a fight a few days ago in exactly the wrong way, but
>grabbing one of the pugilists with my bare hands. Intellect gave way
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
>BLink
-L. - 31 Jan 2005 07:41 GMT
> So I broke up a fight a few days ago in exactly the wrong way, but
> grabbing one of the pugilists with my bare hands.
<snip>

Next time, soak your hand 3 times daily in extremely hot salt water for
5-10 minutes.  It draws out the infection and takes the pain away
almost instantly.

-L.
Mary - 31 Jan 2005 17:59 GMT
> > So I broke up a fight a few days ago in exactly the wrong way, but
> > grabbing one of the pugilists with my bare hands.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> -L.

LOL! Guess your really weren't "done," eh?
linda varney - 01 Feb 2005 14:11 GMT
firstly anyone with cats should be upto date with there tetanus jabs?.then
if you are bitten or scratched by a cat please make it bleed it minimises
the risk of infection.but perhaps the most important item of all is if you
know your cat or cats are argumentative make your you have a water spray
handy it always works and theres no harm done to anyone.a pheramone plug in
should help to maintain calm the vets sell them.

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